any game where you fight over resources?

Denikin

I'm looking for a game where crafting is more then just finding random material all over the place.

But where, there's a realistic system with limited resources that people need to fight over and controll, and where the whole economy is based on items that are player created.

Doesn't mean that resources can't be around. I mean, common resources might be everywhere and not require any fighting over, but where there are some resources that are rare, then you need to (and actually can) capture and  defend them with your friends, guilds, nations, whatever...

I already play Eve, wich is pretty damn close to what I want. It's just that the format is really borring.

I want to like the game, I really, do, and I've been playing for months, but I can only play for about 2-3 hours before I start to get sleepy and have to stop...

So, I'm wonering if theres any other game like that out there?

grimboj

Eve is unique in that respect (ore thieves etc).

Project Entropia is probably the only other game where combat directly results from resource competition but you dont wanna play that :P

Denikin

Isn't that the one with crappy graphics, where you play with real money?

Nah... didn't look like my kinda thing.

grimboj

RF-Online does it too. There is an RVR every 8 hours that gives you access to a super mining area until the next RvR so everyone shows up for the huge fights

Btw if you want crafting then go for Ryzom.

exanimo

http://www.ogame.org/

resources is what you fight for

grimboj

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Originally posted by neoteo

http://www.ogame.org/
resources is what you fight for

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This is an mmo.....

Denikin

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Originally posted by grimboj

Originally posted by neoteo

http://www.ogame.org/
resources is what you fight for

This is an mmo.....

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Well, yeah, there's lots of those web based strategy games.

Not really what I'm looking for either.

RF online sounds like it has that cool aspect, but it also sounds like it's majorly grinding focused.

If there's going to be grinding, I'd rather the grind be resource extration, rather then aimlessly fighting mobs.

Hmm... Sounds like eve again...

But, man, there's got to be *something* else...

Roma Victor sounded interesting. Build your own buildings, fight over resouces, heavy PVP...  It's too bad the game's just too budget to really be playable.

grimboj

Tbh I'd recommend trying to find a third gen mmo with what youre looking for and just start trying to weezle into the beta for that. The games out there just dont cut it - its like only being able to see 1 side of a 20 sided dice and full dice are coming soon..

Denikin

Yeah That's true.

But I want it now

Heh...  No really, I'm not working, or in school at the moment, so I have time to kill.

I know there's nothing out there though... I just shoot the question out every now and then on the odd chance... You know?

exanimo

did you try silkroad ? its totaly grind based but i think its a fun try for a free mmo

Obraik

In SWG you need to "fight" for space to place your havestors on some of the better spots.  If you find the spot too late and someones already placed their harvestors then you might have to settle for a lower concentration of the resource or try find a new spot.  The more common resources have a larger radius and their concentrations decrease at a lesser rate whereas with the more rarer stuff the concentration can drop dramatically within small distances from the center of the spawn.  Heh, unfortunately you can't blow up the other guys harvestors though...

Darkchronic

In RYL: Path of the Emperor, the two rival factions (Merkhadian and Kartefant) fight for control of resources or something, I'm not sure, look at the website: RYL

Ninyx

In shadowbane a guild can assume ownership of a resource "node" and the ownership comes under contest once each day.  It's their way of getting all the people together to fight.  This is precisely what you are looking for.

Aelfinn

Games already out with contested resources: EVE, Shadowbane

Games in development: Age of conan

Elnator

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Originally posted by grimboj
Eve is unique in that respect (ore thieves etc).

Project Entropia is probably the only other game where combat directly results from resource competition but you dont wanna play that :P

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Not true
Shadowbane, UO, Jumpgate just to name a few.  (CLASSIC UO mind you... not that EA crap) there are some others but they're not nearly as good.  I would say that of the four best I'd rate EVE and Classic UO at the top.

Canigua

AO have guild VS. guild pvp,fighting for land control

Aelfinn

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Originally posted by Canigua
AO have guild VS. guild pvp,fighting for land control

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True, but while I personally love the game, land controll is not the same as fighting over the resources you must have to be effective, it always was little more than a  very fun option for guilds with a few minor perks.

kahnz

RFO has an awesome idea with the chip war every 8 hours and the access to the central ore mine.  That game could be soo awesome if it were only a little bit more complex and involved alot less grinding.

Connoisseur

www.fomportal.com

Not for everybody though.

Arcken

Shadowbane, hands down is what you are looking for. Free to play now too.

nomadian

there needs to be more of these mmorpgs! Though I guess the reasoning that there is not is because it is quite a flawed system when you are fighting over resources and then early in the morning someone just gets them without fighting as not many are even online.

Suitepee

Shadowbane for now.

Darkfall for later.

Denikin

I tried shadowbane.

Seems really cool.

Doesn't really work on my computer. Crashes all the time.

No idea why.  My video card gets wonky with older games...

I wanted to like it, but even if I did get it to work, the choppy animations just make it difficult to swallow. I mean, I don't mind dated graphics, I still play SNES games sometimes, or X-Com. but I just get the impression that shadowbane's graphics were never verry good.

I tried RYl. It was by far the biggest waste of money I've ever... well... ok,, maybe not the THE biggest, but you get the point. It really sucked. There isn't even any PVP in the game, I mean, there is, but everything is duels. How can you compete over resources when you can't kill the other guys?

As for SWG, it sounded like it was really cool once, with the skill based system, and the player housing and all... but I hear a lot of bad things about it recently.

As for UO, never even thought about it. I'll check it out.

Denikin

Well, yeah, I guess it's hard to implement.

They could always make it so that you can only capture resouces during a specific time, like in shadowbane.

Or manybe make it so that you can set up automated/NPC defences, but that might make it too easy to defend...

*shrug*

I dunno... I don't design these things, I just want to play them.  :P

nomadian

Or it could be scaled according to how many people are online or pvping. For example, Battlegrounds you have 10 vs 10 at all times, this way you would always have competition. But would still be problematic.

Denikin

See, I don't really like the whole instanced battlegrounds thing.

That makes it feel less like war, and more like a team sport.

I mean, to be perfectly honest, I don't even really like tactical combat.  I mean, I don't mind it... I realise that it's part of the game, but I'm more interested in... well... in logistics, as in, winning a war by having superior numbers and equipment, and having strategic controll of resources.

Kinda bugged me about WOW... Not enough emphasis on world PVP. I mean, the only world PVP that really happens is rogues ganking people when they're fighting mobs...

It'd have been cooler if WOW was actually more like the Warcraft strategy series. If you could build towns, and cut down trees, and capture mines, and acutally fight over controll of the world map.

*sigh*

Exept that if it was like that, then one side or the other would eventally win, and then that'd be the end of the game...

oh well...I'll keep dreaming I guess...