Wepps is a complete tool. He goes off on Raph in threads that have nothing to do with him. He's got a serious stick up his ass about him. The funny part is that he blames Raph for shuff that he had no control over. Wepps = dumbass
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Originally posted by tillamook Here's what Wepps thinks (god I can't stand this guy.) Of course it was deleted but I got it before it happened. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wepps And herein lies the problem.
The problem in fact is the reverse. You people justify the work of an incompetent fool, just because you are trying to bring forth your idea that NGE sucks and you want to perpetrate more pre-CU whining.
You associate yourselves with a fool, and as a result you look just like that fool when coming here and stupidly spreading his fame, when there is no fame at all.
He was never the industry leader. He was a con-man. And each of you have been conned as well. He plays that game pretty well.
He's been ushered out of the industry, and other developers openly flame him in full public view now because of his nonsense, but you are easily fooled. So he has turned to you now to try to help him get his foot back in that door.
He **edit**ed up UO and he **edit**ed up SWG, and you all get down on your knees for him when he offers the lollipop.
I wonder what it's like being an idiot.
The quoted poster surely knows.
Click here to read what Wepps said about the "Raph" version of SWG.
Originally posted by Reachwind Originally posted by tillamook Here's what Wepps thinks (god I can't stand this guy.) Of course it was deleted but I got it before it happened. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wepps And herein lies the problem.
The problem in fact is the reverse. You people justify the work of an incompetent fool, just because you are trying to bring forth your idea that NGE sucks and you want to perpetrate more pre-CU whining.
You associate yourselves with a fool, and as a result you look just like that fool when coming here and stupidly spreading his fame, when there is no fame at all.
He was never the industry leader. He was a con-man. And each of you have been conned as well. He plays that game pretty well.
He's been ushered out of the industry, and other developers openly flame him in full public view now because of his nonsense, but you are easily fooled. So he has turned to you now to try to help him get his foot back in that door.
He **edit**ed up UO and he **edit**ed up SWG, and you all get down on your knees for him when he offers the lollipop.
I wonder what it's like being an idiot.
The quoted poster surely knows.
Click here to read what Wepps said about the "Raph" version of SWG. Either he was ebayed at some point or he turned into a fish. I don't get it.
Originally posted by wolfmann I love how people blame Raph for all bad decisions, nerfs, changes in vision and whatnot, that came AFTER he was not involved with SWG. And then they say he ruined SWG, and is a looser.
I kinda love reading that....Yeh, he's responsible for holocron handouts! Yeh, hes responsible for the release of unlimited jedi! Yeh, he's responsible!
They released the game way to early, and that was not Raph's decision, it was Smed. They needed to see a return on the investment, which I get, but I think slashed the budget after JTL.
Originally posted by SODAofBRIA Originally posted by tillamook Well everytime there is a Raph thread Wepps is on it like a fly on shit. Here he goes again. http://www.radiantcg.com/gallery/categories.php?cat_id=2 Someone telll him to shut his piehole.
those are Twilek titties yeah that was the last post I made in here about char improvment. Link is fixed. hehe
Good read seems everything though was thrown out the door once raph left. Allso Raph is working on another mmo Ill be sure to go to that one when it comes out.
Multiverse?
That's not an mmo. If you read about it you'll find it's going right down the same tired old 'virtual world with nothing to do' path.
Originally posted by Reachwind I know I would play Raph's version of SWG right now; - a TEF system - Preholocron jedi system (unknown path to a permadeath jedi) - HAM - profession system - no galaxy wide merchandise system - battle fatigue and wounds - crafted items better than looted - GCW bases - GCW battlefields - 10 min wait for shuttle/star ports - attack animations instead of particle effects - 20 person groups - an emphasis on developer/customer comunity building - SCS (unless you unlock your premadeath jedi)
Now that sounds like heaven, or at least a game I could play instead of hanging out here with you guys.....umm, no offense. LOL
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
Shit, Ill ally myself with you guys and Koster before I believe 1 letter out of Wepps mouth, that guy is the biggest douche bag that has ever posted on those forums. I say some dumb shit, but jesus crist, that guy wins Gold.
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Originally posted by Reachwind I know I would play Raph's version of SWG right now; - a TEF system - Preholocron jedi system (unknown path to a permadeath jedi) - HAM - profession system - no galaxy wide merchandise system - battle fatigue and wounds - crafted items better than looted - GCW bases - GCW battlefields - 10 min wait for shuttle/star ports - attack animations instead of particle effects - 20 person groups - an emphasis on developer/customer comunity building - SCS (unless you unlock your premadeath jedi)
Originally posted by Rekrul Originally posted by Spathotan This all looks familiar. Oh wait, now I know. Its the same thing I hear/see/read him say and somebody post every other day.
Whats done is done, Raph has served his purpose and is now meaningless to this game, constantly debating over what he did/didnt do, discussing his thoughts and will's and wishes will get nobody nowhere...very slowly.
He, who doesn't learn from historical mistakes, is bound to repeat them.
Forgive me for being at nitpicker but it's actually " Those who forget the past are condemned to relive it" William.S.Shirer "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" ( although he probably stole it from some Roman philosopher,lol )
I would really love to talk to you guys about your take on women in gaming. It seems to me (and this is just my take) that Raph's vision included a social aspect of the game that had been missing and took advantage of it. I say this but I admit my viewpoint may be skewed because I haven't played very many computer games.
Raph included something that happens to us in real life. We work (combat), we get tired and need to recharge. In real life, many of us go out for a drink -- which he basically included in the game by having combatants visit the cantinas. For me, this was seen as a HUGE opportunity for the gaming community. I'm not saying women don't like to be warriors or Jedi, etc. ... I just thought this was a great insight, added something completely natural and gave the gaming community something new to draw a female population.
I'm not trying to be sexist or suggest that there aren't any professions that might not appeal or that woman can't become. Just saw it as quite an advantage and wondered why they would squander such an opportunity. Why assume you can only appeal to younger men and not younger women?
When I read things written by Raph I see such a wider circle of potential gamers than is currently aspired to. Of course, I come from a situation where my father's database engine ideas were shunned for the traditional relational database design, which to me is incredibly cumbersome and clunky (so perhaps I relate to genius recognized but not accepted into the mainstream). I come from a line of computer nerds of the opposite gender.
I'm not trying to hijack this thread ... in fact, I'll take it to a different thread if anyone is interested in this discussion. Thanks!
Originally posted by chlaos Originally posted by Reachwind I know I would play Raph's version of SWG right now; - a TEF system - Preholocron jedi system (unknown path to a permadeath jedi) - HAM - profession system - no galaxy wide merchandise system - battle fatigue and wounds - crafted items better than looted - GCW bases - GCW battlefields - 10 min wait for shuttle/star ports - attack animations instead of particle effects - 20 person groups - an emphasis on developer/customer comunity building - SCS (unless you unlock your premadeath jedi)
Now that sounds like heaven, or at least a game I could play instead of hanging out here with you guys.....umm, no offense. LOL
None taken. Now go have a shower.
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Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by RoboChicken
Sometimes, of course, a new show runner comes in and reinvents the whole thing dramatically, and is hailed as a genius. But I can’t actually think of very many examples.
Especially not with SWG.
Originally posted by Spathotan Whats done is done, Raph has served his purpose and is now meaningless to this game, constantly debating over what he did/didnt do, discussing his thoughts and will's and wishes will get nobody nowhere...very slowly.
And where the hell are we going right now. Nothing's left but regailing old times at the wake and the post-mortem.
Oh, and hoping the Dr. Frankensteins (that's frankenSTEEN) can piece back the corpse and make him live again.
Where in the phase where soe slowly re-introduces pre-cu features we liked. I would say if the game makes it through its publish plan and collison detection finally works for npcs in another 6 months swg could be playable from a combat stand point. Of course in another 6 months a pre-cu server may be open.
I am waiting for smugglers to smuggle and the expertise system before I try the nge again. As I said in my orginal review the nge could work but it was a long way from a finished product.
Originally posted by auntisocial I would really love to talk to you guys about your take on women in gaming. It seems to me (and this is just my take) that Raph's vision included a social aspect of the game that had been missing and took advantage of it. I say this but I admit my viewpoint may be skewed because I haven't played very many computer games. Raph included something that happens to us in real life. We work (combat), we get tired and need to recharge. In real life, many of us go out for a drink -- which he basically included in the game by having combatants visit the cantinas. For me, this was seen as a HUGE opportunity for the gaming community. I'm not saying women don't like to be warriors or Jedi, etc. ... I just thought this was a great insight, added something completely natural and gave the gaming community something new to draw a female population. I'm not trying to be sexist or suggest that there aren't any professions that might not appeal or that woman can't become. Just saw it as quite an advantage and wondered why they would squander such an opportunity. Why assume you can only appeal to younger men and not younger women? When I read things written by Raph I see such a wider circle of potential gamers than is currently aspired to. Of course, I come from a situation where my father's database engine ideas were shunned for the traditional relational database design, which to me is incredibly cumbersome and clunky (so perhaps I relate to genius recognized but not accepted into the mainstream). I come from a line of computer nerds of the opposite gender. I'm not trying to hijack this thread ... in fact, I'll take it to a different thread if anyone is interested in this discussion. Thanks! Regards, Aunti
Rapidly following Aunti to another thread.... (and trying not to sound like a perv)
(Aunti, there's no thread??)
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Originally posted by auntisocial I would really love to talk to you guys about your take on women in gaming. It seems to me (and this is just my take) that Raph's vision included a social aspect of the game that had been missing and took advantage of it. I say this but I admit my viewpoint may be skewed because I haven't played very many computer games. Raph included something that happens to us in real life. We work (combat), we get tired and need to recharge. In real life, many of us go out for a drink -- which he basically included in the game by having combatants visit the cantinas. For me, this was seen as a HUGE opportunity for the gaming community. I'm not saying women don't like to be warriors or Jedi, etc. ... I just thought this was a great insight, added something completely natural and gave the gaming community something new to draw a female population. I'm not trying to be sexist or suggest that there aren't any professions that might not appeal or that woman can't become. Just saw it as quite an advantage and wondered why they would squander such an opportunity. Why assume you can only appeal to younger men and not younger women? When I read things written by Raph I see such a wider circle of potential gamers than is currently aspired to. Of course, I come from a situation where my father's database engine ideas were shunned for the traditional relational database design, which to me is incredibly cumbersome and clunky (so perhaps I relate to genius recognized but not accepted into the mainstream). I come from a line of computer nerds of the opposite gender. I'm not trying to hijack this thread ... in fact, I'll take it to a different thread if anyone is interested in this discussion. Thanks! Regards, Aunti
One of the things I really liked most about SWG when it first went live was the number of non-traditional gamers who played it. I spent most of the first 6 months playing with a real life husband/wife duo who I met while "playing" doctor in the Moenia hospital. The local cantina was filled with some of the most entertaining characters who would enthrall you with their stories, make you spurt milk out your nose with their jokes and antics, and just made the world feel like a real world. Grandparents, stay at home moms, middle aged bankers, young and old alike played SWG, and that was something I've never seen before or since. It was sad when the decision was made to just ignore those professions and they withered away, because that was a world I truely enjoyed playing in.
Good read seems everything though was thrown out the door once raph left. Allso Raph is working on another mmo Ill be sure to go to that one when it comes out.
Buttuglydude, he was my guild leader on Ahazi. He stuck around? I pity him.
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Who openly flames Koster?
Wepps is a total liar.
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Wepps = dumbass
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Either he was ebayed at some point or he turned into a fish. I don't get it.
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
Or maybe he always worked for SOE?
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yeah that was the last post I made in here about char improvment. Link is fixed. hehe
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Multiverse?
That's not an mmo. If you read about it you'll find it's going right down the same tired old 'virtual world with nothing to do' path.
Anyway now that you know what it's called...
QUICK!!! Time to go check out MULTIVERSE!!!!
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Hey...More Wepps BS...Someone that can post should call him on this.
Multiverse is NOT a game. It's a dev platform:
http://crystaltips.typepad.com/wonderland/2005/12/multiverse.html
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"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
Forgive me for being at nitpicker but it's actually " Those who forget the past are condemned to relive it" William.S.Shirer "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" ( although he probably stole it from some Roman philosopher,lol )
It's the little things like this, that will help Smed wake the hell up. If not sony's shareholders
Games i'm playing right now...
"In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com
I would really love to talk to you guys about your take on women in gaming. It seems to me (and this is just my take) that Raph's vision included a social aspect of the game that had been missing and took advantage of it. I say this but I admit my viewpoint may be skewed because I haven't played very many computer games.
Raph included something that happens to us in real life. We work (combat), we get tired and need to recharge. In real life, many of us go out for a drink -- which he basically included in the game by having combatants visit the cantinas. For me, this was seen as a HUGE opportunity for the gaming community. I'm not saying women don't like to be warriors or Jedi, etc. ... I just thought this was a great insight, added something completely natural and gave the gaming community something new to draw a female population.
I'm not trying to be sexist or suggest that there aren't any professions that might not appeal or that woman can't become. Just saw it as quite an advantage and wondered why they would squander such an opportunity. Why assume you can only appeal to younger men and not younger women?
When I read things written by Raph I see such a wider circle of potential gamers than is currently aspired to. Of course, I come from a situation where my father's database engine ideas were shunned for the traditional relational database design, which to me is incredibly cumbersome and clunky (so perhaps I relate to genius recognized but not accepted into the mainstream). I come from a line of computer nerds of the opposite gender.
I'm not trying to hijack this thread ... in fact, I'll take it to a different thread if anyone is interested in this discussion. Thanks!
Regards,
Aunti
None taken. Now go have a shower.
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So, you all sat in camps and that was fun?
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Oh, and hoping the Dr. Frankensteins (that's frankenSTEEN) can piece back the corpse and make him live again.
Where in the phase where soe slowly re-introduces pre-cu features we liked. I would say if the game makes it through its publish plan and collison detection finally works for npcs in another 6 months swg could be playable from a combat stand point. Of course in another 6 months a pre-cu server may be open.
I am waiting for smugglers to smuggle and the expertise system before I try the nge again. As I said in my orginal review the nge could work but it was a long way from a finished product.
(Aunti, there's no thread??)
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So, you all sat in camps and that was fun?
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Buttuglydude, he was my guild leader on Ahazi. He stuck around? I pity him.