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  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267


    Originally posted by FilipinoFury
    Why the people at PETA are hypocrites

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1913999390200944075&q=Bullshit%21


    PETA is not our God, we do not worship them. Some people there may be hypocrites but that doesn't mean everyone is.

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    I hate Animal rights fools.

    Back when Free range chickens was their battle of day, they used to come and let all my chickens out in the middle of the night. (And spray paint Nazi symbols all over my walls).

    At which point the fox would promptly kill the lot of them.

    Which of course is why I locked up my free range chickens every night in the first place.

    .

    Another great classic was the guy who captured all the London foxes and then instead of shooting them drove them by the bus load out to the country "where they belong" and would release them 20 at a time. At which point all the local livestock would get devastated. What a twat.

    Or when they set all the mink from the mink farm free, which promptly killed every animal within 12 miles.

    .

    It's not enough to be well meaning, these peoples hearts are in the right place, it's just that they have absolutely zero knowledge and an attitude that parades ignorance as undeniable common sense.

    I beat them up in the street on sight. I have a duty and a responsability to my animals and I take any threat to them very seriously. Listening to a hippy London banker explain to a farmer how to raise animals instills me with the will to physically discipline.

    Genuine Grade A scum. Full of themselves, enjoying their little moment of rebellion no matter what the cost to others or the animals they profess to protect.

  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267


    Originally posted by baff

    I hate Animal rights fools.
    Back when Free range chickens was their battle of day, they used to come and let all my chickens out in the middle of the night. (And spray paint Nazi symbols all over my walls).
    At which point the fox would promptly kill the lot of them.
    Which of course is why I locked up my free range chickens every night in the first place.
    .
    Another great classic was the guy who captured all the London foxes and then instead of shooting them drove them by the bus load out to the country "where they belong" and would release them 20 at a time. At which point all the local livestock would get devastated. What a twat.
    Or when they set all the mink from the mink farm free, which promptly killed every animal within 12 miles.
    It's not enough to be well meaning, these peoples hearts are in the right place, it's just that they have absolutely zero knowledge and an attitude that parades ignorance as undeniable common sense.
    I beat them up in the street on sight. I have a duty and a responsability to my animals and I take any threat to them very seriously. Listening to a hippy London banker explain to a farmer how to raise animals instills me with the will to physically discipline.
    Genuine Grade A scum. Full of themselves, enjoying their little moment of rebellion no matter what the cost to others or the animals they profess to love.


    PETA is mostly going after people like these http://www.meat.org/.
    Anyways the PETA movie couldn't even go after the vegan/vegetarian diet. Instead they had to go after an organization that has ...millions of members? So of course they find hypocrites...surprise!

    If you guys eat meat and care about the environment then you're a hypocrite!

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  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020


    Originally posted by baff

    Or when they set all the mink from the mink farm free, which promptly killed every animal within 12 miles.


    They did that in Washington too, where they promptly ran onto the busy highway beside the farm and became roadkill.

    In BC some bog on a mountain was in danger, so instead of listening to the environmental engineers they listened to the vocal, plugged up the bog and now all the lakes around the bottom of the mountain are running dry.

    Besides the ties to ALF/ELF that's why I don't like PETA. Environmental issues should be handled by environmental scientists, not dumbasses with too much free time who think cows are cute.

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Another favourite of mine is where mankind spends 10,000 wiping out wolves and bears because they are bloody dangerous and now they want to re-introduce them everywhere. (Although not anywhere near their own homes and children).

    If you were looking for people that stupid, you just couldn't find them.

  • NihilanthNihilanth Member Posts: 1,357

    How are caring about the environment and animal rights activists connected?  I care about the environment.  I think we're trashing and polluting and cutting down the world to the point where by the end of the century it's going to be all but unlivable.  I'm fine with certain things we do to the environment, and I completely realize that many things are needed to maintain the quality of life I expect, but not all of it. 

     I don't factor animals into the environment anywhere.

    Besides, the animals people like PETA are going after are DOMESTIC animals.  You're not going to find too many domestic animals in the jungles and forests of the world... you know, the areas environmentalists care about.  PETA doesn't care about areas like those because the animals there are ALREADY FREE.  I'm all for being nice to animals.  I have two dogs myself, and I can't imagine anyone being so cruel as to hurt them, but if I were given a choice between saving the life of a dog and saving the life of a human, I'd take the human 100% of the time.

    Now excuse me, I'm going to go make a ham sandwich.

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  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267

    This is my favorite.

    America's drinking water, rivers and lakes are at risk from giant, corporate-owned factory farms. These Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs) confine thousands of animals in one facility, and produce staggering amounts of animal waste in the process (500 million tons per year). Too often, this waste leaks into our rivers and streams, fouling our air, contaminating our drinking water and spreading disease. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, hog, chicken and cattle waste has polluted 35,000 miles of rivers in 22 states and contaminated groundwater in 17 states. They are the largest source of toxic ammonia air pollution in the U.S.

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  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020

    At times it doesn't look like PETA cares either.

     http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial.cfm

    Warning, pictures (especially in the top link) are not pleasant.

  • KuzzleKuzzle Member Posts: 1,058



    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    If you guys eat meat and care about the environment then you're a hypocrite!



       I don't see how those things overlap... Not saying they don't, just asking you to please elaborate. I eat meat because any and all viable substitutes cost so much more. My father can only really afford to get one kind of stuff, so he gets what he was raised on, and what's locally available.

       Might be able to get better stuff if he'd just do the shopping while he's visiting his girlfriend, but he doesn't like shopping without one me or my brother there, because he always picks our random gross stuff. Plus, even if you tell him exactly what to get, he'll foul it up. I asked him to pick up some kind of melon the other day and he brought me a papaya... He does stuff like that. I don't want to call him an idiot, but quite frankly, I don't know how else to explain it.

  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267

    Attack attack attack PETA but completely ignore factory farms and their harm to the world. Can you guys look at both arguments for once?

    Instead of typing "PETA hypocrites" and "PETA stupid" into google, try typing "Factory farm abuse" and "factory farm pollution".

    Here is an article that explains how factory farms increase disease and illness and make it harder for us to treat it. http://www.sierraclub.org/factoryfarms/factsheets/antibiotics.asp 

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  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267


    Originally posted by Kuzzle


    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    If you guys eat meat and care about the environment then you're a hypocrite!



       I don't see how those things overlap... Not saying they don't, just asking you to please elaborate. I eat meat because any and all viable substitutes cost so much more. My father can only really afford to get one kind of stuff, so he gets what he was raised on, and what's locally available.

       Might be able to get better stuff if he'd just do the shopping while he's visiting his girlfriend, but he doesn't like shopping without one me or my brother there, because he always picks our random gross stuff. Plus, even if you tell him exactly what to get, he'll foul it up. I asked him to pick up some kind of melon the other day and he brought me a papaya... He does stuff like that. I don't want to call him an idiot, but quite frankly, I don't know how else to explain it.


    I already explained it above.

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  • KuzzleKuzzle Member Posts: 1,058


    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    Attack attack attack PETA but completely ignore factory farms and their harm to the world. Can you guys look at both arguments for once?


    Instead of typing "PETA hypocrites" and "PETA stupid" into google, try typing "Factory farm abuse" and "factory farm pollution".

    Here is an article that explains how factory farms increase disease and illness and make it harder for us to treat it. http://www.sierraclub.org/factoryfarms/factsheets/antibiotics.asp 


       Just because you eat meat doesn't mean you eat factory farmed meat. A lot of people are hunters and stuff... Not that I could ever do that. I had to kill a mouse one time and I cried...  Ugh... Don't think I'd feel so strongly about a person, since most animals didn't do anything wrong... Sometimes I think that I'm a wussy with twisted morals. I find myself thinking that now...
  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020



    Originally posted by Kuzzle 

       Just because you eat meat doesn't mean you eat factory farmed meat. A lot of people are hunters and stuff... Not that I could ever do that. I had to kill a mouse one time and I cried...  Ugh... Don't think I'd feel so strongly about a person, since most animals didn't do anything wrong... Sometimes I think that I'm a wussy with twisted morals. I find myself thinking that now...



    You aren't missing much, I find deer meat too gamey. But I could go for an ostrich burger right about now. Lousy city...
  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020


    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    Attack attack attack PETA but completely ignore factory farms and their harm to the world.


    Well if you insist, can do.

     http://www.activistcash.com/organization_blackeye.cfm/oid/21

     http://www.petakillsanimals.com/article_detail.cfm?article=134

     http://www.consumerfreedom.com/downloads/reference/docs/040726_mommykills.pdf

  • KuzzleKuzzle Member Posts: 1,058



    Originally posted by tetsul

    You aren't missing much, I find deer meat too gamey. But I could go for an ostrich burger right about now. Lousy city...


       My father used to go moose hunting once a year. I dunno, tasted normal to me... My uncle used to go caribou hunting, so I've had that, too. I live in Alaska. Everybody hunts... Anyway, sorry for straying off topic...
  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

     I don't really get off on eating my own animals.

    I kill something every day.Vermin mostly.

     I prefer pre prepared factory meat.

    It might hurt the enviroment (?) but it sure feeds the hungry masses in an over populated world.

    Round here we use chicken poop to make electricity and fertilizer. The fertilizer can really screw up the waterways from time to time, but it sure feeds the hungry masses in an overpopulated world.

    I also get dead chicks from the local battery farms (the smell of death is evil, always makes me think of Belsen ) and feed them to my owls. I don't mind conserving the odd endangered species once in a while. As long as they are sympathetic to mankind.

    Vegetarians crack me up. They give it the big one about how nothing had to die for their dinner. Only they never worked the land so they don't realise what kind of a death mixametosis is. City folk. Or they think the world has enough room to feed every one on lettuce and nuts. Comeback when you grow a second stomach like herbivores and you too will be able to process the same amount of nutrients from them. And when you do, you will be in direct competition with every goat, sheep cow and horse on the planet and have to kill them all and spend every waking hour of your life chewing the cud. And then after 10 years of it, their bones get all brittle because they forgot what the biological term "omnivore" means and thought it meant you could eat either vegetables or meat, and every saturday night on the piss, they fall over and break something and spend the whole time in A&E. Come home with a plastercast instead of a hangover.

    Weak in the mind, weak in the body.

  • TuutobTuutob Member Posts: 607


  • KuzzleKuzzle Member Posts: 1,058
       Wow, that's... really messed up, Baff...
  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Country life.

    I've got no time for those out of balance with nature.

  • WantsumBierWantsumBier Member Posts: 1,079

    I agree with you Baff,

    Man has always hunted, killed, and eaten meat (that is why we have those funny looking pointed teath in our mouths). We need to. There are protiens and amino acids that we can only get from meat (I am talking about unprocessed meat.) When man could not find game to hunt, or could not get the kill they resorted to eating nuts and berries.

    I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.

  • BeanchillaBeanchilla Member Posts: 260

    AlexAmore you are right not everyone at peta is bad, because many members are ignorant to there morales.
    Like someone may say they are catholic but has no idea what its really about.

    The head of PETA wants animals running free in the streets, and she has come right out and said this.
    "total animal liberation"
    She thinks we should give them back their land.
    It's insane.

    Animals can't have every right we have, because animals dont think/act like we do.
    Everytime a bull kills a person, should we lock him up in jail?

    And a few years back,
    Peta bought two walk in Freezers....
    Now those are only used to hold MEAT
    or hold.... corpses

    Now if PETA isn't killing people,
    Why would they keep meat?

    Hypocritical? YES!

    This video just adds to this feeling.

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  • VixenHeartVixenHeart Member Posts: 458

    I eat meat, I eat veal, I eat greens, I eat bread, I eat whatever the hell I want... and by God there's no one who's going to tell me I'm wrong... 

    I sure love veal.  I grew up on a farm.  Lets be real people.  I shouldn't have ever eaten a chicken because my family raised them for food.  Oh boo.

  • KuzzleKuzzle Member Posts: 1,058


    Originally posted by VixenHeart

    I eat meat, I eat veal, I eat greens, I eat bread, I eat whatever the hell I want... and by God there's no one who's going to tell me I'm wrong... 
    I sure love veal.  I grew up on a farm.  Lets be real people.  I shouldn't have ever eaten a chicken because my family raised them for food.  Oh boo.


       You're wrong! ...Sorry, had to say it because of how you worded that. Anyway, the only reason I'd like to be a vegetarian is because I don't like the thought of taking a life. Animals aren't less than people. Humans are animals, too, ya know. I mean, sure, there are some really stupid animals for whom I would not risk my life to save, but there are also plenty of smart animals. At least people aren't eating the ones commonly viewed as intellegent... Oh wait, some people think horses are smart, and some people eat them! Yeah... I don't eat them, but I don't see anything more wrong with it than eating a cow. In fact, I wouldn't really be any more opposed to it, though I wouldn't be thrilled about the idea. The only way I'd eat a donkey, though, would be if I was in danger of starving to death, and I didn't have to kill it. I just don't think I'd have the heart to say my life was worth more than their's...
  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    I've seen some pretty expensive horses.
  • VixenHeartVixenHeart Member Posts: 458


    Originally posted by Kuzzle

    Originally posted by VixenHeart

    I eat meat, I eat veal, I eat greens, I eat bread, I eat whatever the hell I want... and by God there's no one who's going to tell me I'm wrong... 
    I sure love veal.  I grew up on a farm.  Lets be real people.  I shouldn't have ever eaten a chicken because my family raised them for food.  Oh boo.

       You're wrong! ...Sorry, had to say it because of how you worded that. Anyway, the only reason I'd like to be a vegetarian is because I don't like the thought of taking a life. Animals aren't less than people. Humans are animals, too, ya know. I mean, sure, there are some really stupid animals for whom I would not risk my life to save, but there are also plenty of smart animals. At least people aren't eating the ones commonly viewed as intellegent... Oh wait, some people think horses are smart, and some people eat them! Yeah... I don't eat them, but I don't see anything more wrong with it than eating a cow. In fact, I wouldn't really be any more opposed to it, though I wouldn't be thrilled about the idea. The only way I'd eat a donkey, though, would be if I was in danger of starving to death, and I didn't have to kill it. I just don't think I'd have the heart to say my life was worth more than their's...

    So lets call all the horses, chickens, dogs, cats and birds to vote in 2008 since they are no less then people.  I see your point, but come on.

    Lets be real here.  Some people eat people too. 

    I'm PRO meat.  It's how it's been for million of years... why should we start to care because a group came out back in like the 80's or whenever the hell they came out and now it's BAD to eat meat.  Yet we've been doing this for a crapload of years.

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