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News Flash: WOW is not a grind
rmeyer
Member Posts: 151
Originally posted by damian7
how can you say wow doesn't have a grind?
If you seriously think Wow is a grind, then you have
never played another mmo before and clearly have no broad experience
playing them. In Wow you can reach level 60 in two weeks if you play
casually. If you only fight baddies, then you are experiencing difficulty in leveling because you aren't playing the game right, where you are expected to pick up quests that you can complete, to gain more levels quicker. There is also resting, which encourages the player to stop in an inn or city before they log out.
I remember playing everquest for 6 months and being excited that I had reached level 34 finally. There were things called power levels where they would be almost equivalent to 5 levels of experience.
When city of heroes first came out not only was there almost no content, fighting the same damn instance over and over again, with a slight minimal difference(which they really haven't changed all that much even to this day), there was also the most frustrating grind that made you miserable. Most players played the game for a month and then never played again after creating ten different super hero costumes.
Wow has a story that comes to life and offers tons of different paths to move toward. By the time you get to level 60, you could have experienced an entirely different view of the game than most others. A lot of us were shocked at how fast we got to level 60, thinking that Blizzard would add a grind, so that they could keep players from having accomplished everything the game had to offer. Surprizingly they didn't.
how can you say wow doesn't have a grind?
If you seriously think Wow is a grind, then you have
never played another mmo before and clearly have no broad experience
playing them. In Wow you can reach level 60 in two weeks if you play
casually. If you only fight baddies, then you are experiencing difficulty in leveling because you aren't playing the game right, where you are expected to pick up quests that you can complete, to gain more levels quicker. There is also resting, which encourages the player to stop in an inn or city before they log out.
I remember playing everquest for 6 months and being excited that I had reached level 34 finally. There were things called power levels where they would be almost equivalent to 5 levels of experience.
When city of heroes first came out not only was there almost no content, fighting the same damn instance over and over again, with a slight minimal difference(which they really haven't changed all that much even to this day), there was also the most frustrating grind that made you miserable. Most players played the game for a month and then never played again after creating ten different super hero costumes.
Wow has a story that comes to life and offers tons of different paths to move toward. By the time you get to level 60, you could have experienced an entirely different view of the game than most others. A lot of us were shocked at how fast we got to level 60, thinking that Blizzard would add a grind, so that they could keep players from having accomplished everything the game had to offer. Surprizingly they didn't.
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He is right you know, You wont find a single MMORPG where you arent grinding. So yes, WoW is a grind. But some people can handle that better then others
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Then you should try playing EvE then.
If my understanding is correct Grind = killing mobs doing repetative tasks to 'Level up', So that you can reach the end game.
In eve you dont have to grind to level up you select what skills you want to learn and are told in real time how long before you gain a level in that skill. While your chosen skill is leveling up you can actually platy the game and do whatever you want be it mine ore PvP PvE trade goods Make goods etc. and when your timer runs out the skill is done and you can select your next skill.
Another thing is the skill continues to count down even if you are not logged on. So got a long skill time to get through set it before you go to bed/school/work etc.
Then you should try playing EvE then.
If my understanding is correct Grind = killing mobs doing repetative tasks to 'Level up', So that you can reach the end game.
In eve you dont have to grind to level up you select what skills you want to learn and are told in real time how long before you gain a level in that skill. While your chosen skill is leveling up you can actually platy the game and do whatever you want be it mine ore PvP PvE trade goods Make goods etc. and when your timer runs out the skill is done and you can select your next skill.
Another thing is the skill continues to count down even if you are not logged on. So got a long skill time to get through set it before you go to bed/school/work etc.
in EVE you grind for money. its the same thing.
Actually you dont i know i dont i just have my fun and the money magically flows in.
Ahh i see netherless it still involves killing the same mobs again and again. so my anology was pretty accurate.
How about 46 weeks of running two instances (thats 92 total runs) that take 6 hours combined, to get one headpiece and i still haven't got it yet
92x6=about 500+ roughly hours spent farming the same God damn instances to no avail... if that isn't grinding i dont know what the hell is
How about 46 weeks of running two instances (thats 92 total runs) that take 6 hours combined, to get one headpiece and i still haven't got it yet
92x6=about 500+ roughly hours spent farming the same God damn instances to no avail... if that isn't grinding i dont know what the hell is
Yea thats grinding and its not even well designed grinding. It should at least try to be fun.
It seems time and again this game was put together with little or no thought.
Compared to chinese cheaper by the dozen MMORPG's. WoW has no grind what so ever. But, in human standards it does have a grind but, they make it as painless as possible without making it too easy.
A grind is like killing the same mobs for 10 levels and then able to enter another area for another 20 levels killing the same thing then 40 more levels killing the same thing. Whereas something changes every level cap.
Most of the true grinds in WoW are reputationi gains and, crafting supplies. Everything else in the game isn't a grind at all but, an obstacle you have to strategize your way through.
Some can use brute force and little strategy to no strategy *cough*other mmo's*cough* or, go technical and, use stunning moves, offtanking, kiting boss guards, banishing elementals, poly morphing a creep in a large mob, saping, fearing, shackling an undead, intimidating a group, mind controlling humanoids, using dynamite, ect and, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Yea but problem is that grinding this way is just not that fun its like washing up sure the first identicle plate was ok to do as was the 6th or 13 th but after 20 identicle plates it gets a bit boring, and once it gets boring the game stops being fun.
Thats why i like EvE no true grind just time to do whatever you want.
In the game you have a choice instance running or questing, if you don't meet the requirements then pay your dues, heck killing trash mobs gives you time to practice your new skills so when you're fighting an elite boss in who knows where, you'll know what to do.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Of course, you don't have to grind, you get to level 60 very easily, but try reach any uber item without grinding... well, good luck with that.
Pvp
Raids
Mats
Rep
Is there anything else to wow?
Ahh i see netherless it still involves killing the same mobs again and again. so my anology was pretty accurate.
Its pretty accurate once you understand its not just for leveling. Its for any goal you set that requires repetative tasks.
Then you should try playing EvE then.
If my understanding is correct Grind = killing mobs doing repetative tasks to 'Level up', So that you can reach the end game.
In eve you dont have to grind to level up you select what skills you want to learn and are told in real time how long before you gain a level in that skill. While your chosen skill is leveling up you can actually platy the game and do whatever you want be it mine ore PvP PvE trade goods Make goods etc. and when your timer runs out the skill is done and you can select your next skill.
Another thing is the skill continues to count down even if you are not logged on. So got a long skill time to get through set it before you go to bed/school/work etc.
in EVE you grind for money. its the same thing.
No in Eve some people grind for money, some people exclusively Pirate others players for money. Some people run trade runs for money. Eve is a diverse game.
Then you should try playing EvE then.
If my understanding is correct Grind = killing mobs doing repetative tasks to 'Level up', So that you can reach the end game.
In eve you dont have to grind to level up you select what skills you want to learn and are told in real time how long before you gain a level in that skill. While your chosen skill is leveling up you can actually platy the game and do whatever you want be it mine ore PvP PvE trade goods Make goods etc. and when your timer runs out the skill is done and you can select your next skill.
Another thing is the skill continues to count down even if you are not logged on. So got a long skill time to get through set it before you go to bed/school/work etc.
in EVE you grind for money. its the same thing.
No in Eve some people grind for money, some people exclusively Pirate others players for money. Some people run trade runs for money. Eve is a diverse game.
all the things you listed are also grinding...