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What's sad is that the Lego Star Wars 2 Demo is better then SWG...

iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143

(note:) this may be a bit off topic compared to SWG....

As seen on the LA site and said before, Lego Star Wars 1 was voted above SWG even last year at launch of the NGE.

I just played this one and let me say it's more iconic, fun and bug free then SWG...

I'm taking bets on how many awards it wins compared to SWG....again this year..lol

Also, since the first game came in the top ten last year as on of the top rated games I think this one will do the same.

It is more complex, iconic, Star Warsy, less broke, fun but most of all it does not pretend to be somthing it's not.  

To bad that This game will smoke SWG again this year... even more so.    I hope they do another vote on this game vs SWG...lol seeing SWG get 3% of the people that voted for a Star Wars game was pretty sad though...lol

Here ya go:

http://www.fileplanet.com/166032/160000/fileinfo/LEGO-Star-Wars-II:-The-Original-Trilogy-Demo

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SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    It's silly, but then again so was the NGE.
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  • myrrdinirlmyrrdinirl Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 314
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    Yeah.. both Lego games will be both bug-free and entertaining.

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  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351


    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.


    Actually it's more like comparing turds to Baby Ruth bars..They are different, but I'll let you decide which is which.

    I watched my friend's kid play the first Lego SW game and it looked pretty badass! hehe.

    Love, Sodapop

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143


    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    First off saying SWG is a mmo right now is a insult to anyone really playing a mmo...

    Second, after seeing LA on thier own website conduct a poll of what game gave you a great Star Wars memory (Out of thier entire Star Wars line-up) seeing SWG come in dead last place well after Lego Star Wars, Commando and others...  I think that says alot but hey, the NGE is doing so well... what do I know?

    OH and please do not insult Oranges and or Apples in a comparison to the NGE...   I eat those fruits.. I would not feed the NGE to a rat.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351


    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    First off saying SWG is a mmo right now is a insult to anyone really playing a mmo...



    I think the initials were changed to mean: Minimally Multiplayer Online

    edit- i was thinking anagram..but that isn't the word. What is the term for these kinds of initials? It's driving me nuts!

    Love, Sodapop

  • myrrdinirlmyrrdinirl Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 314

    As bad as they screwed up with the NGE and all, it's much easier to make a game feel a certain way when you can focus on the experience of a single player instead of a server full of people (what the NGE was designed to be).

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    First off saying SWG is a mmo right now is a insult to anyone really playing a mmo...

    Second, after seeing LA on thier own website conduct a poll of what game gave you a great Star Wars memory (Out of thier entire Star Wars line-up) seeing SWG come in dead last place well after Lego Star Wars, Commando and others...  I think that says alot but hey, the NGE is doing so well... what do I know?

    OH and please do not insult Oranges and or Apples in a comparison to the NGE...   I eat those fruits.. I would not feed the NGE to a rat.


    SWG is an MMO , Last time I checked a few thousand people playing is thought of as massive.  LA conducting polls on their website has nothing to do with this . BTW , By your logic (no one plays NGE) that poll must be in reference to Pre-cu/NGE . And who can argue , That game had very little star wars appeal a. Isn't that why they changed it ? I love it when you haters prove LA's/SOE's point over and over again .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo 
    I love it when you haters prove LA's/SOE's point over and over again .


    The numbers speak for themselves chucklehead...

    Love, Sodapop

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo 
    I love it when you haters prove LA's/SOE's point over and over again .

    The numbers speak for themselves chucklehead...

    The numbers speak what exactly  , Star Wars galaxies needed an overhaul ? Look I can spin to

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • EnsnaredEnsnared Member UncommonPosts: 71


    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    First off saying SWG is a mmo right now is a insult to anyone really playing a mmo...



    I think the initials were changed to mean: Minimally Multiplayer Online


    edit- i was thinking anagram..but that isn't the word. What is the term for these kinds of initials? It's driving me nuts!


    Abbreviations?

    Anyway, in the case of SWG now, it stands for "Meh, Mmmmm'couple'o'people Online".
  • KylrathinKylrathin Member Posts: 426


    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    First off saying SWG is a mmo right now is a insult to anyone really playing a mmo...



    I think the initials were changed to mean: Minimally Multiplayer Online


    edit- i was thinking anagram..but that isn't the word. What is the term for these kinds of initials? It's driving me nuts!


    Acronym.

    There's a sucker born every minute. - P.T. Barnum

  • BissrokBissrok Member Posts: 1,002
    Well, last time I played Lego Star Wars, I had a lot of fun and I played with a friend. Last time I played SWG, I was bored out of my mind, lagged, bugged and no one from my guild was ever on (and it was a new guild, since all my guild members had quit).

  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo 
    I love it when you haters prove LA's/SOE's point over and over again .

    The numbers speak for themselves chucklehead...

    The numbers speak what exactly  , Star Wars galaxies needed an overhaul ? Look I can spin to


    The thing is...I don't need to spin anything to make my point: Population is about 1/4-1/3 of what it was in Pre-CU and you can see that the most significant drops were when they did these "overhauls" you claim it was in need of.

    Oh, and it's not gaining new players either.

    Love, Sodapop

  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351


    Originally posted by Kylrathin

    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    First off saying SWG is a mmo right now is a insult to anyone really playing a mmo...



    I think the initials were changed to mean: Minimally Multiplayer Online

    edit- i was thinking anagram..but that isn't the word. What is the term for these kinds of initials? It's driving me nuts!


    Acronym.


    That's the word I was looking for!!

    Love, Sodapop

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo 
    I love it when you haters prove LA's/SOE's point over and over again .

    The numbers speak for themselves chucklehead...



    The numbers speak what exactly  , Star Wars galaxies needed an overhaul ? Look I can spin to


    The thing is...I don't need to spin anything to make my point: Population is about 1/4-1/3 of what it was in Pre-CU and you can see that the most significant drops were when they did these "overhauls" you claim it was in need of.

    Oh, and it's not gaining new players either.


    So you're saying everyone who quit , Did so because of NGE ? Nge happened because Pre-cu and Cu were losing more players than they were gaining . NGE still didn't help this , So what would ? A little bug fixing ? That thought is laughable . The fact of the matter is SWG was a niche game for a niche market . That is the main reason after a million copies sold they were still in the 300k range of active accounts . Countless numbers of them being simply alt accounts . This is exactly why I have never taken a side in these arguments . Because IMO neither side has it right . Each side tends to look through rose tinted shades at their beloved version .

    When the fact is all versions were lacking in their own way . Pre-cu you had 32 profession  , Whoopy dooo . The game itself offered  no content other than that you created yourself  (Boom headshot!) Countless subs lost . It was very hard to get started  from scratch after the first year or so (Boom Groinshot) More subs lost .It offered an alfa class  (Boom LegShot)  Many subs ran out over this class not just because  it was Alfa ,But because it was also out of context with the time period. I could go on and on about things that contributed to this games downfall .(Boom Stomachshot) The most painful of all wounds , Star Wars . Pre-cu/Cu/NGE all have suffered from this . Both in lacking its feel and having impossible to please fans .


    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • tjvoodootjvoodoo Member Posts: 293


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo 
    I love it when you haters prove LA's/SOE's point over and over again .

    The numbers speak for themselves chucklehead...

    The numbers speak what exactly  , Star Wars galaxies needed an overhaul ? Look I can spin to


    The thing is...I don't need to spin anything to make my point: Population is about 1/4-1/3 of what it was in Pre-CU and you can see that the most significant drops were when they did these "overhauls" you claim it was in need of.

    Oh, and it's not gaining new players either.


    So you're saying everyone who quit , Did so because of NGE ? Nge happened because Pre-cu and Cu were losing more players than they were gaining . NGE still didn't help this , So what would ? A little bug fixing ? That thought is laughable . The fact of the matter is SWG was a niche game for a niche market . That is the main reason after a million copies sold they were still in the 300k range of active accounts . Countless numbers of them being simply alt accounts . This is exactly why I have never taken a side in these arguments . Because IMO neither side has it right . Each side tends to look through rose tinted shades at their beloved version .

    When the fact is all versions were lacking in their own way . Pre-cu you had 32 profession  , Whoopy dooo . The game itself offered  no content other than that you created yourself  (Boom headshot!) Countless subs lost . It was very hard to get started  from scratch after the first year or so (Boom Groinshot) More subs lost .It offered an alfa class  (Boom LegShot)  Many subs ran out over this class not just because  it was Alfa ,But because it was also out of context with the time period. I could go on and on about things that contributed to this games downfall .(Boom Stomachshot) The most painful of all wounds , Star Wars . Pre-cu/Cu/NGE all have suffered from this . Both in lacking its feel and having impossible to please fans .





    You seem intelligent so i will be blunt - aint most of these failings your opinion only?

    A friend helped me get jedi and i was so happy, he then told me "Tell me how you feel about it in 2 weeks" i didnt understand at the time - but after doing the vette for the 50th time i knew exactly what he meant - nothing to do (bunker=done,hero of tat=done,theme parks=done, 120 badges=got).

    I will agree with you one reason players left was buggy(even i had my times) but players leaving because of alpha(It gave us a goal) - you never mentioned needing other players but because many do i will say this (there is a difrence between single player and MMO do you understand it yet).

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by tjvoodoo

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo



    You seem intelligent so i will be blunt - aint most of these failings your opinion only?

    A friend helped me get jedi and i was so happy, he then told me "Tell me how you feel about it in 2 weeks" i didnt understand at the time - but after doing the vette for the 50th time i knew exactly what he meant - nothing to do (bunker=done,hero of tat=done,theme parks=done, 120 badges=got).

    I will agree with you one reason players left was buggy(even i had my times) but players leaving because of alpha(It gave us a goal) - you never mentioned needing other players but because many do i will say this (there is a difrence between single player and MMO do you understand it yet).


    Yeah you are right they are my opinions of reasons  some people quit , But I gathered them over 3 years of playing this game . If anything these are the people I blame , For the original game being thrown out . If you don't like a game find one you do , That is the belief I go by . Whats the point in hanging around bitching and moaning about it ? (this is in reference to Pre-cu) Because heaven forbid the developers might freaking listen  and change everything .Which almost seems exactly what happened with SWG . Corporations have a tendancy to want new customers  , In essence this isn't a bad thing . But it can lead to the destruction of a product like we have seen with SWG  .

    The same could be said for NGE , The players gave the devs the easy road . They simply only ask for Sh*t that was taken away . Rather than demand new actually improved content / abilities /mechanics Be added. Maybe I am strange because usually people don't agree with my opinions . But I'll say this  in a way everyone here will understand . "Why ask for the golden turd back , WHen you could possibly get a Golden Egg instead?


    As far as grouping and player socialization goes I never had a problem with it . Sometimes Standing in a long ass buff line was annoying . But just looking at the amount of people jammed into one area was quite oddly entertaining.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529

    I don't mean to interrupt the dick-measuring contest... but go download that demo, it's a blast.


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  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    First off saying SWG is a mmo right now is a insult to anyone really playing a mmo...

    Second, after seeing LA on thier own website conduct a poll of what game gave you a great Star Wars memory (Out of thier entire Star Wars line-up) seeing SWG come in dead last place well after Lego Star Wars, Commando and others...  I think that says alot but hey, the NGE is doing so well... what do I know?

    OH and please do not insult Oranges and or Apples in a comparison to the NGE...   I eat those fruits.. I would not feed the NGE to a rat.


    SWG is an MMO , Last time I checked a few thousand people playing is thought of as massive.  LA conducting polls on their website has nothing to do with this . BTW , By your logic (no one plays NGE) that poll must be in reference to Pre-cu/NGE . And who can argue , That game had very little star wars appeal a. Isn't that why they changed it ? I love it when you haters prove LA's/SOE's point over and over again .


    Wrong.  You know they changed it based on a Dream and a gamble...  SWG as a MMO now is a joke, it's a ARCADE style multiplayer game with some chat...   As far as it being a interactive, diverse game where you need each other or actually need anything from anyone for that matter tha game fails.  You know it, I know it -- Hell most gamers or people that played it know it.

    I am sorry that this game is ranked better, recieved better, sold more and even on the poll did far better then SWG coming in dead last after the NGE as a game that people look at out of the Star Wars line up as somthing great.   Sure some people play the NGE, but in the same token some people subscribe to those spam adds that get sent to people in thier email.      Now as far as Star Wars appeal we also know how that went down, the change they made was not a bad concept other then all the balance, and ripping from the games complex nature.      Now, saying the game was in worse shape then now is not even a argument. 

    If you base this one what was MORE successful or what felt more Star Warsy, I have to wonder about that.  I know what was more Star Warsy to me, but to say the NGE with the giant circle targets, jittery action, Easy combat kill speed (Even slowed down now) is anything more Star Warsy is a joke.

    If it was then you would be playing with one million fans in the NGE. (I did not have a no one plays the NGE poll though)..?

    Your defending of the NGE which (I have to asume that your playing in it now)is pretty much -all you...  Good luck with that one.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143


    Originally posted by Shayde
    I don't mean to interrupt the dick-measuring contest... but go download that demo, it's a blast.


    Point made... that was mine.

    It is a Star Wars game and you feel it... AND it sucks that it's done with Legos and a SIM/MMO cant do that... like SWG -- THAT IS THE SAD PART!

    We go from the game that should be the first (Real feeling Star Wars game you think of) and people think of the Star Wars Lego game ---- nice, good job SOE...

    Think Star Wars games and SWG is dead last... -- at least with 300k people you would have thought there would have been more people to even debate this. lol

    Id say 50k or so is not with LECs time as input on a game now.  

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • BissrokBissrok Member Posts: 1,002


    Originally posted by Shayde

    I don't mean to interrupt the dick-measuring contest... but go download that demo, it's a blast.




    It really was a lot of fun. The levels seem a longer than in the first game. The Free Play mode was also a lot cooler.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by myrrdinirl
    It's not an mmorpg though so you're comparing apples and oranges.

    First off saying SWG is a mmo right now is a insult to anyone really playing a mmo...

    Second, after seeing LA on thier own website conduct a poll of what game gave you a great Star Wars memory (Out of thier entire Star Wars line-up) seeing SWG come in dead last place well after Lego Star Wars, Commando and others...  I think that says alot but hey, the NGE is doing so well... what do I know?

    OH and please do not insult Oranges and or Apples in a comparison to the NGE...   I eat those fruits.. I would not feed the NGE to a rat.


    SWG is an MMO , Last time I checked a few thousand people playing is thought of as massive.  LA conducting polls on their website has nothing to do with this . BTW , By your logic (no one plays NGE) that poll must be in reference to Pre-cu/NGE . And who can argue , That game had very little star wars appeal a. Isn't that why they changed it ? I love it when you haters prove LA's/SOE's point over and over again .


    Wrong.  You know they changed it based on a Dream and a gamble...  SWG as a MMO now is a joke, it's a ARCADE style multiplayer game with some chat...   As far as it being a interactive, diverse game where you need each other or actually need anything from anyone for that matter tha game fails.  You know it, I know it -- Hell most gamers or people that played it know it.

    I am sorry that this game is ranked better, recieved better, sold more and even on the poll did far better then SWG coming in dead last after the NGE as a game that people look at out of the Star Wars line up as somthing great.   Sure some people play the NGE, but in the same token some people subscribe to those spam adds that get sent to people in thier email.      Now as far as Star Wars appeal we also know how that went down, the change they made was not a bad concept other then all the balance, and ripping from the games complex nature.      Now, saying the game was in worse shape then now is not even a argument. 

    If you base this one what was MORE successful or what felt more Star Warsy, I have to wonder about that.  I know what was more Star Warsy to me, but to say the NGE with the giant circle targets, jittery action, Easy combat kill speed (Even slowed down now) is anything more Star Warsy is a joke.

    If it was then you would be playing with one million fans in the NGE. (I did not have a no one plays the NGE poll though)..?

    Your defending of the NGE which (I have to asume that your playing in it now)is pretty much -all you...  Good luck with that one.


    DId you even read the rest of the thread before responding to this? Doesn't look like it .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by Bissrok

    Originally posted by Shayde

    I don't mean to interrupt the dick-measuring contest... but go download that demo, it's a blast.



    It really was a lot of fun. The levels seem a longer than in the first game. The Free Play mode was also a lot cooler.


    Is it really ? I was debating Dl'ing it last night but joined and downloaded the Company of heros Beta instead  . Superb is all I can say , But I am a WW2 buff .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • chronictokerchronictoker Member Posts: 18
    is there anyway to download the demo without having to pay? i want to play it but don't have the money to pay for a subscription =/
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