Originally posted by JigsawJesus Those disagreeing with my statement honestly are supporting exactly what i said. You all think that the general population is "lazy, dumb, weak, manipulative, etc." You think you are above others when in fact you are not. Just because you feel mcdonalds consumers and wow players are lazy, that doesn't mean you arent You are not better than those people we are all human beings and we all have differient tastes A lot of our tastes relate Like for instance Lets say 85% of people like McDonalds while 15% Do not, that does not mean either side is right or wrong its a matter of taste and when you start saying that when someone that doesn't enjoy mcdonalds says that their better and superior simply because they are not eating mcdonalds thats when people get arrogant. Now mcdonalds may be bad for you but you can use any example Its just arrogant to think you are better than others because you don't like something popular. I DO NOT LIKE abercrombie and fitch, i think their rich people clothes, and honestly i may not like people that try to hard to fit in by wearing them, but i would never go far enough to say they are subpar when compared with myself just because i dont agree with something they buy.
Did I or anyone else say that? nearly everyone is manipulative in one way or another, I am no different. The difference is I recognize that, and try to eliminate the things that I would in fact jump off a cliff for. I do not believe that I am in any way superior to WOW players just because I dont play it, I couldn't possibly make such a judgement unless I knew specifically why they do play, and even then it would smack of bigotry.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Originally posted by JigsawJesus Now people say that "the most popular isnt best" and it makes sense in some cases Like i don't care for WoW or McDonalds However i love starbucks and i want people to understand something Things that are big may not be your favorite, but they are big for a reason people say WoW isnt good but its popular for its name "blizzard" Now blizzard got big by releasing quality games, so this is perfectly fair, we trust them and they are determined to make quality products, Also people have been playing WoW for a long time now and if it wasnt quality, it wouldnt be stable or growing.
Now i am not a fanboi, ive played this game a total of about 5 months 3 when it was released, and i tried it again in june for 2 months. But the facts are the facts its exactly why starbucks is the biggest coffee shop place, It tastes fucking fantastic. And when you say "people are dumb for the most part" You're just being a stubborn prick because most people disagree with you. I don't like wow, and i've found my "niche game" its planetside. I love it and its for me you might like FoM, or SoR, or Second life, or everquest or whatever. But you shouldn't bash wow for its popularity.
Wow. Constructive criticism done well. I agree with you 100%. That's why I don't play WoW, eat at Mc Donalds and think Dunkin Donuts eats Starbucks for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Originally posted by JigsawJesus Now people say that "the most popular isnt best" and it makes sense in some cases Like i don't care for WoW or McDonalds However i love starbucks and i want people to understand something Things that are big may not be your favorite, but they are big for a reason people say WoW isnt good but its popular for its name "blizzard" Now blizzard got big by releasing quality games, so this is perfectly fair, we trust them and they are determined to make quality products, Also people have been playing WoW for a long time now and if it wasnt quality, it wouldnt be stable or growing.
Now i am not a fanboi, ive played this game a total of about 5 months 3 when it was released, and i tried it again in june for 2 months. But the facts are the facts its exactly why starbucks is the biggest coffee shop place, It tastes fucking fantastic. And when you say "people are dumb for the most part" You're just being a stubborn prick because most people disagree with you. I don't like wow, and i've found my "niche game" its planetside. I love it and its for me you might like FoM, or SoR, or Second life, or everquest or whatever. But you shouldn't bash wow for its popularity.
Okay. Fact #1: Most humans are stupid. Fact #2: Something that is popular has lots of humans liking it. Read fact number one and you'll understand some peoples thinking.
Fact #3: Takai001 is human
Since most humans are stupid, I can assume the Takai001 is stupid and disregard this boneheaded post.
most people bash WoW because it threatens their current MMO of Choice. It is like a little child lashing out because someone else's sandbox is bigger. Of course people use terms like stupid people play it. Which again is a ploy to shield their own stupidity by deflecting their own feelings of insecurity . Please do not try and prop up your false sense of intelligence by picking such a popular target. If you have to belittle others to make yourself feel big than you have other problems than WoW sucks.
That being said
WoW isn't a bad game it also isn't the best. I would say its a front runner with other titles NONE of which are really stellar. From EVE to EQ to WoW are all really just copycats of one another. Yes even games like EVE because they are all basically just grind fests. They feature nothing new and nothing inventive. The only thing a player gets these days is exchanging one grind for another. One must remember the whole point to an MMO is to keep you paying your subscription. The longer they can draw out the game the better hence the term grind. I'm waiting for MMO developers to realize they can do something much better and that in turn will keep people paying their subscription costs.
Originally posted by Takai001 Okay. Fact #1: Most humans are stupid. Fact #2: Something that is popular has lots of humans liking it. Read fact number one and you'll understand some peoples thinking.
There is also the people who are following the opposite and are just as stupid. They see something popular and have to go the other way. They are just as lacking in thinking and are just as fixed as their opposites.
See, when you are free to think, you can say yes or no to a game like wow without having to worry what anyone else thinks.
WOW is definately not a fun game. I just fail to see go kill x this, go kill y that, and mindlessly fighting in battleground without a goal is ... fun? It is a decent game compare to what we have on the rest of the market.
The fact WOW fans claim it's the best of all and rate it 10.0 based on the fact WOW has more players than all other good/bad games combine is very very unfair.
You don't rate a game 10.0 perfect score just because it is your current favorite game...or rate a game 1.0 just because it is not your cup of tea...
It's just like someone claim McDonalds serves the best food in the world. And McDonalds fans rate McDonalds 10.0, while rate pizza etc. 1.0 It is retard.
It is definately not the best. Half the MMO came out in the last 3 years are just as good as WOW, while some have better features here and there. WOW is nothing more than an ordinary MMO with nothing special, but the best marketing.
To the OP, why are you soooo concerned about what others think about WoW? Find the mmorpg YOU like and play it. And leave it at that. If YOU like WoW, then play it. If you do not like WoW, then do not play it.
BTW, the reason WoW is "popular" has zero to do with the game itself. Blizzard theirselves explain it. In the game trailor what does it say? "10 YEARS..."
Who is Blizzard talking to? And about?
In the WoW game itself, on its loading screen, Blizzard has tips, and sometimes jokes. One of them that randomly appears says "THERE IS NO COW LEVEL!"
Who is Blizzard talking to? And about?
Inside the game itself, certain players can get a very, very, special pet. The name of this very, very, special pet is... "Diablo".
Who is Bliazzard talking to? Why?
The game WoW was NOT made for a single mmorpg fan. It was made for the already existing MILLIONS of Diablo 1 fans. Diablo 2 fans. As well as Warcraft fans, and to some degree Starcraft fans. When Bllizzard posts "10 years" this is who they are talking to/about. When Blizzard posts in the game loading screen "THERE IS NO COW LEVEL" they are talking to the already existing Diablo 2 fans. When Blizzard puts in a very special pet inside the game named "Diablo", when they spent all that money doing programming, the animation, etc... just for that one unique pet... they are doing it for Diablo 1 fans, and Diablo 2 fans.
Diablo 1, Diablo 2, Warcraft, and Starcraft, all together have sold in excess of 20 million PLUS. And there is more, Diablo 1, an old, ancient game, is still for sale in stores, on prime shelf space. There is even more! Go visit your local major bookstore! Talk to the cashier. There are tons of Blizzard NOVELS!
Why is WoW popular? For the same reason Diablo 1, Diablo 2, and Warcraft are all popular. Now go find a mmorpg you like, and play it. Stop worring over what others like or dislike.
Originally posted by xplororor To the OP, why are you soooo concerned about what others think about WoW? Find the mmorpg YOU like and play it. And leave it at that. If YOU like WoW, then play it. If you do not like WoW, then do not play it. BTW, the reason WoW is "popular" has zero to do with the game itself. Blizzard theirselves explain it. In the game trailor what does it say? "10 YEARS..." Who is Blizzard talking to? And about? In the WoW game itself, on its loading screen, Blizzard has tips, and sometimes jokes. One of them that randomly appears says "THERE IS NO COW LEVEL!" Who is Blizzard talking to? And about? Inside the game itself, certain players can get a very, very, special pet. The name of this very, very, special pet is... "Diablo". Who is Bliazzard talking to? Why?
The game WoW was NOT made for a single mmorpg fan. It was made for the already existing MILLIONS of Diablo 1 fans. Diablo 2 fans. As well as Warcraft fans, and to some degree Starcraft fans. When Bllizzard posts "10 years" this is who they are talking to/about. When Blizzard posts in the game loading screen "THERE IS NO COW LEVEL" they are talking to the already existing Diablo 2 fans. When Blizzard puts in a very special pet inside the game named "Diablo", when they spent all that money doing programming, the animation, etc... just for that one unique pet... they are doing it for Diablo 1 fans, and Diablo 2 fans. Diablo 1, Diablo 2, Warcraft, and Starcraft, all together have sold in excess of 20 million PLUS. And there is more, Diablo 1, an old, ancient game, is still for sale in stores, on prime shelf space. There is even more! Go visit your local major bookstore! Talk to the cashier. There are tons of Blizzard NOVELS! Why is WoW popular? For the same reason Diablo 1, Diablo 2, and Warcraft are all popular. Now go find a mmorpg you like, and play it. Stop worring over what others like or dislike.
2 ponts. First, who cares what other people think about WoW? Who cares who plays it, and who does not play it? Everyone should find their OWN mmorpg they enjoy, then play it. End of story.
Second point - I went into graphic detail why WoW is popular. Blizzard theirselves tell why. I gave examples above. WoW was NOT made for mmorpg players. WoW was made for Diablo 1 players, Diablo 2 players, Warcraft players.
What the hell are you talking about JigsawJesus, you've just thrown a bunch of cliches together and come up with meaningless nonsense.
Myth #1 World of Warcraft is played by a bunch of kids who trashtalk all the time.
Fact is any "How old are you" thread tends to navigate towards a early to mid-20's demographic. It's not exclusively teenagers, it's the same people who are supposedly mature in other MMO's. All they do is talk about emo, chuck norris, trashtalking each other with hybrid speak. "L2p lawl" like a form of post-modernistic irony. "Hey I'm a father and I play WoW and I'm in a mature guild". BULLSHIT, you're an annoying troublemaker who should have been shot at birth. Take your "OMFG epix", your "were MC raiders kkk", your superiority complex and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Fact World of Warcraft is played by a bunch of young adults who have kids who trashtalk all the time.
I don't care if only 100 people bought WoW it is crap. Who in their right sane mind would buy such shit. How many topics/threads does there need to be on it? Doesn't make an opinion any less "true", but if anything the subscriber base for WoW is growing.
Originally posted by Xenduli What the hell are you talking about JigsawJesus, you've just thrown a bunch of cliches together and come up with meaningless nonsense. Myth #1 World of Warcraft is played by a bunch of kids who trashtalk all the time. Fact is any "How old are you" thread tends to navigate towards a early to mid-20's demographic. It's not exclusively teenagers, it's the same people who are supposedly mature in other MMO's. All they do is talk about emo, chuck norris, trashtalking each other with hybrid speak. "L2p lawl" like a form of post-modernistic irony. "Hey I'm a father and I play WoW and I'm in a mature guild". BULLSHIT, you're an annoying troublemaker who should have been shot at birth. Take your "OMFG epix", your "were MC raiders kkk", your superiority complex and stick it where the sun don't shine. Fact World of Warcraft is played by a bunch of young adults who have kids who trashtalk all the time. I don't care if only 100 people bought WoW it is crap. Who in their right sane mind would buy such shit. How many topics/threads does there need to be on it? Doesn't make an opinion any less "true", but if anything the subscriber base for WoW is growing. Heck even fascism was popular at one point.
kids not realy ..i meat 2 ppl over 60 both hunters hehe^^
Originally posted by Nierro Originally posted by freethinker starbucks, mcdonalds and wow all suck
where is your god now?
Well put.
my god is fighting yer devil, actually 2 of my gods is, so yer one devil will die, now if i add one more god on the playing field ill beable to rez a dead god from the graveyard and that will make 4 gods to yer one devil, and yer life force will be gone, adding yer devil to the graveyard......oh this isnt a yugi-o game woops ..puts cards away
Now don't think I'm being "prissy" when I say this , because I just quote rom other people. "It doens't matter what other people say about games if you like it then play it, don't let them put you off"
It was the same group of people who go to mcdonalds and starbucks, and play wow. You know, those fat, balding dudes who need the coffee so they can stay up to 4 AM trying to just just one more PvP kill!
Originally posted by necro666 kids not realy ..i meat 2 ppl over 60 both hunters hehe^^ i mean not teh lvl^^
right, becuase you met two old people out of millions, the fanbase isnt mostly kids.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Originally posted by Takai001 Okay. Fact #1: Most humans are stupid.
Including yourself?
Plain and simple people bash stuff that is popular because they want to feel hardcore or like a know it all. It gives the ego a boost when you're doing something others aren't doing. See these peolpe probably liked WOW, but felt violated when it sold more than one copy. So now they bash it because people play it. That is about the ONLY fact in this arguement. People bash popular to make themselves feel smarter and better than others.
Yep. Same goes for *v* (i have vowed never to type its name in this forum again) as well. If every person who hates it voted it low (and there are plenty i'm sure) and every person who loved it voted it high it would all come out in the wash. Any game holding the top spot will constantly be bashed by those who didn't/don't like it because they feel there is no way a game THEY DIDN'T LIKE ... COULD BE THE NUMBER ONE GAME. So they come up with theories like "mmorpg ranks it high cause *v* advertises on thier site" or "ccp tells thier players to jack up the ranking" or "its a u.s. government conspiracy.." etc.
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Takai001 wrote:
Okay. Fact #1: Most humans are stupid. Fact #2: Something that is popular has lots of humans liking it. Read fact number one and you'll understand some peoples thinking.
Fact #3: Takai001 is human
Since most humans are stupid, I can assume the Takai001 is stupid and disregard this boneheaded post.
That being said
WoW isn't a bad game it also isn't the best. I would say its a front runner with other titles NONE of which are really stellar. From EVE to EQ to WoW are all really just copycats of one another. Yes even games like EVE because they are all basically just grind fests. They feature nothing new and nothing inventive. The only thing a player gets these days is exchanging one grind for another. One must remember the whole point to an MMO is to keep you paying your subscription. The longer they can draw out the game the better hence the term grind. I'm waiting for MMO developers to realize they can do something much better and that in turn will keep people paying their subscription costs.
There is also the people who are following the opposite and are just as stupid. They see something popular and have to go the other way. They are just as lacking in thinking and are just as fixed as their opposites.
See, when you are free to think, you can say yes or no to a game like wow without having to worry what anyone else thinks.
WoW is a good game. A fun game.
I have no beef with WoW.
WOW is definately not a fun game. I just fail to see go kill x this, go kill y that, and mindlessly fighting in battleground without a goal is ... fun? It is a decent game compare to what we have on the rest of the market.
The fact WOW fans claim it's the best of all and rate it 10.0 based on the fact WOW has more players than all other good/bad games combine is very very unfair.
You don't rate a game 10.0 perfect score just because it is your current favorite game...or rate a game 1.0 just because it is not your cup of tea...
It's just like someone claim McDonalds serves the best food in the world. And McDonalds fans rate McDonalds 10.0, while rate pizza etc. 1.0 It is retard.
It is definately not the best. Half the MMO came out in the last 3 years are just as good as WOW, while some have better features here and there. WOW is nothing more than an ordinary MMO with nothing special, but the best marketing.
BTW, the reason WoW is "popular" has zero to do with the game itself. Blizzard theirselves explain it. In the game trailor what does it say? "10 YEARS..."
Who is Blizzard talking to? And about?
In the WoW game itself, on its loading screen, Blizzard has tips, and sometimes jokes. One of them that randomly appears says "THERE IS NO COW LEVEL!"
Who is Blizzard talking to? And about?
Inside the game itself, certain players can get a very, very, special pet. The name of this very, very, special pet is... "Diablo".
Who is Bliazzard talking to? Why?
The game WoW was NOT made for a single mmorpg fan. It was made for the already existing MILLIONS of Diablo 1 fans. Diablo 2 fans. As well as Warcraft fans, and to some degree Starcraft fans. When Bllizzard posts "10 years" this is who they are talking to/about. When Blizzard posts in the game loading screen "THERE IS NO COW LEVEL" they are talking to the already existing Diablo 2 fans. When Blizzard puts in a very special pet inside the game named "Diablo", when they spent all that money doing programming, the animation, etc... just for that one unique pet... they are doing it for Diablo 1 fans, and Diablo 2 fans.
Diablo 1, Diablo 2, Warcraft, and Starcraft, all together have sold in excess of 20 million PLUS. And there is more, Diablo 1, an old, ancient game, is still for sale in stores, on prime shelf space. There is even more! Go visit your local major bookstore! Talk to the cashier. There are tons of Blizzard NOVELS!
Why is WoW popular? For the same reason Diablo 1, Diablo 2, and Warcraft are all popular. Now go find a mmorpg you like, and play it. Stop worring over what others like or dislike.
cool
but...whats ur point?
cant see
2 ponts. First, who cares what other people think about WoW? Who cares who plays it, and who does not play it? Everyone should find their OWN mmorpg they enjoy, then play it. End of story.
Second point - I went into graphic detail why WoW is popular. Blizzard theirselves tell why. I gave examples above. WoW was NOT made for mmorpg players. WoW was made for Diablo 1 players, Diablo 2 players, Warcraft players.
In english please.
World of Warcraft came out before the Asian version did, so what the hell are you talking about?
What the hell are you talking about JigsawJesus, you've just thrown a bunch of cliches together and come up with meaningless nonsense.
Myth #1
World of Warcraft is played by a bunch of kids who trashtalk all the time.
Fact is any "How old are you" thread tends to navigate towards a early to mid-20's demographic. It's not exclusively teenagers, it's the same people who are supposedly mature in other MMO's. All they do is talk about emo, chuck norris, trashtalking each other with hybrid speak. "L2p lawl" like a form of post-modernistic irony. "Hey I'm a father and I play WoW and I'm in a mature guild". BULLSHIT, you're an annoying troublemaker who should have been shot at birth. Take your "OMFG epix", your "were MC raiders kkk", your superiority complex and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Fact
World of Warcraft is played by a bunch of young adults who have kids who trashtalk all the time.
I don't care if only 100 people bought WoW it is crap. Who in their right sane mind would buy such shit. How many topics/threads does there need to be on it? Doesn't make an opinion any less "true", but if anything the subscriber base for WoW is growing.
Heck even fascism was popular at one point.
No annoying animated GIF here!
kids not realy ..i meat 2 ppl over 60 both hunters hehe^^
i mean not teh lvl^^
my god is fighting yer devil, actually 2 of my gods is, so yer one devil will die, now if i add one more god on the playing field ill beable to rez a dead god from the graveyard and that will make 4 gods to yer one devil, and yer life force will be gone, adding yer devil to the graveyard......oh this isnt a yugi-o game woops ..puts cards away
playing eq2 and two worlds
It was the same group of people who go to mcdonalds and starbucks, and play wow. You know, those fat, balding dudes who need the coffee so they can stay up to 4 AM trying to just just one more PvP kill!
right, becuase you met two old people out of millions, the fanbase isnt mostly kids.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Plain and simple people bash stuff that is popular because they want to feel hardcore or like a know it all. It gives the ego a boost when you're doing something others aren't doing. See these peolpe probably liked WOW, but felt violated when it sold more than one copy. So now they bash it because people play it. That is about the ONLY fact in this arguement. People bash popular to make themselves feel smarter and better than others.