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Mysterious new "system" to be introduced with chapter 3

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  • XcathdraXcathdra Member CommonPosts: 1,027


    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Xcathdra
    Happy B-day Obraik.. In honor of your Bday I went ahead and took the liberty to get you a Psych screen just to see if you really like the NGE, or if you are a few pieces of bread shy of a loaf =)
    Is that code for alcohol? That was last night :P


    Lmao.. no.. a Psych screen = Psyciatric Evaluation...

    Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
    Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
    Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by Xcathdra

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Xcathdra
    Happy B-day Obraik.. In honor of your Bday I went ahead and took the liberty to get you a Psych screen just to see if you really like the NGE, or if you are a few pieces of bread shy of a loaf =)
    Is that code for alcohol? That was last night :P


    Lmao.. no.. a Psych screen = Psyciatric Evaluation...


    Yeah...people have used alcohol on me before to try get me to open up on stuff   Can't remember if it worked though :/

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  • pirrgpirrg Member Posts: 1,443


    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Xcathdra

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Xcathdra
    Happy B-day Obraik.. In honor of your Bday I went ahead and took the liberty to get you a Psych screen just to see if you really like the NGE, or if you are a few pieces of bread shy of a loaf =)

    Is that code for alcohol? That was last night :P


    Lmao.. no.. a Psych screen = Psyciatric Evaluation...


    Yeah...people have used alcohol on me before to try get me to open up on stuff   Can't remember if it worked though :/


    obraik can you link to the post where they are talking about player bases? i cant find it

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  • XcathdraXcathdra Member CommonPosts: 1,027


    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Xcathdra

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Xcathdra
    Happy B-day Obraik.. In honor of your Bday I went ahead and took the liberty to get you a Psych screen just to see if you really like the NGE, or if you are a few pieces of bread shy of a loaf =)
    Is that code for alcohol? That was last night :P


    Lmao.. no.. a Psych screen = Psyciatric Evaluation...


    Yeah...people have used alcohol on me before to try get me to open up on stuff   Can't remember if it worked though :/


    Lol... ahhh.. brings back memories of college days and those pesky soroirity chicks ... But I digress...

    Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
    Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
    Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by pirrg

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Xcathdra

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Xcathdra
    Happy B-day Obraik.. In honor of your Bday I went ahead and took the liberty to get you a Psych screen just to see if you really like the NGE, or if you are a few pieces of bread shy of a loaf =)
    Is that code for alcohol? That was last night :P


    Lmao.. no.. a Psych screen = Psyciatric Evaluation...


    Yeah...people have used alcohol on me before to try get me to open up on stuff   Can't remember if it worked though :/


    obraik can you link to the post where they are talking about player bases? i cant find it


    http://soe.lithium.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=1078757 one of the last points

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  • anaicanaic Member Posts: 409
    Wow, more new stuff for the pvp'ers....gee I can't wait.
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by anaic
    Wow, more new stuff for the pvp'ers....gee I can't wait.

    Let's not start that argument again :P  After 3 years, it's about time PvP'ers got some new stuff :P

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  • StarnickStarnick Member Posts: 140
    Who said just PvP bases may come back? :P

  • MinimumMinimum Member UncommonPosts: 236


    Originally posted by KzinKiller

    The Senate discuss the pros and cons of such a system and provide a heads up on what the Devs might expect from the community in the way of feedback.

    What a joke ... all they can give them is a heads-up on the feedback of the Senate .... get out and discuss the ideas with the actual customers as a whole, SOE, the Senate provides you with a meaninglessly tiny statistical sample.  Filtering their ideas through small, non-representative groups is how they painted themselves into this messy corner in the first place.




    And people wonder why everybody laughs at the senate.

    Gotta have your secrets and protect your own high opinions of yourself.  They want feedback from the public, how abuot actually posting it for the public?  Instead of a bunch of self important nobodies.

  • AthelaAthela Member Posts: 492


    Originally posted by Delzo

    Originally posted by War_Dancer

    Originally posted by Athela


    Guess 1:  They figured out how to do structure packup to free up the landscape, but they're none too "polished" about it so it has some monster doggie flaws.

    I can't see them doing that, they'd have to put their current playars intrests ahead of potentialy returning subscriptions oops players.



    <sarcasm>
    Oh yeah the old accounts are exactly what they care about.
    </sarcasm>

    Well, actually there are many whiny threads all the time asking them to pack up old houses to "clear the beautiful landscape" so *new* peeps can put down homes.  All they need to do, if they were being Star Warsy, would be to have a giant saarlac eruption which sucked all the non-active player houses and all those bad bad harvesters right up.  Then all would be well.

  • AthelaAthela Member Posts: 492


    Originally posted by Starnick

    Originally posted by Obraik
    My guess is that it's the new PvP ranking system, which is on the publish plan for Chapter 3.  Also, I think that dev had mentioned earlier in a Restuss thread that they were revamping the faction point system too and once that was done, they'd think about upping the faction reward from the Restuss quests (if I understood that right :P)
    Hmmm....

    Oh and you're right about the player bases, I'm surprised folks haven't been talking about it...


    Yo, Nick, how's the good cop/bad cop routine working out for you guys?   I just have to ask if you volunteered or drew short straws...

    That said, yupper, the exciting and iconic leaderboard and pvp base stuff is probably the biggie.  It goes to show how much my head is never ever in pvp land that I didn't consider that stuff.

    Hated to comment on your post rather than the raw fish guy, but you do tend to be more quotable.

    /cheers 

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by Starnick
    Who said just PvP bases may come back? :P

    Battlegrounds too?  Isn't that what the Talus, Corellia and Naboo "bases" are? :P

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  • ZaushZaush Member Posts: 371


    Originally posted by Starnick
    Who said just PvP bases may come back? :P



    I am going to go out on a limb and say they are bringing back the TEF system. I guess since few people are PvPing, they are going to force it on us.

    Just a guess.
  • StarnickStarnick Member Posts: 140


    Originally posted by Athela

    Originally posted by Starnick

    Originally posted by Obraik
    My guess is that it's the new PvP ranking system, which is on the publish plan for Chapter 3.  Also, I think that dev had mentioned earlier in a Restuss thread that they were revamping the faction point system too and once that was done, they'd think about upping the faction reward from the Restuss quests (if I understood that right :P)

    Hmmm....

    Oh and you're right about the player bases, I'm surprised folks haven't been talking about it...


    Yo, Nick, how's the good cop/bad cop routine working out for you guys?   I just have to ask if you volunteered or drew short straws...

    That said, yupper, the exciting and iconic leaderboard and pvp base stuff is probably the biggie.  It goes to show how much my head is never ever in pvp land that I didn't consider that stuff.

    Hated to comment on your post rather than the raw fish guy, but you do tend to be more quotable.

    /cheers 


    Lol, do you mean why I'm here (in reference to the good cop/bad cop)? I only really knew about mmorpg.com from the occassional SWG articles (and editorials) but I'm here on the forums on my own will...nothing official or anything.

    Oh and on the bases - to Obraik: Yes i'd love to see *real* battlefields back (and working + expanded). And to everyone else: There were PvE and PvP player-placed bases before they were disabled...so if they make a return.....
  • GravezGravez Member Posts: 249

    Why don't they just change the name to WOW.


    In chapter three there is going to be a complete re-write of the faction ranking system in Star Wars Galaxies.

    The goals of this update are to add an achievement value to obtaining a GCW rank and to offer game play rewards to those endeavors.

    GCW points and rank acquisition


        * NPC Ground Combat: Boss and Elite caliber NPC’s within five levels will grant an amount of GCW Points.
        * Ground PvP Combat: Players will be able to battle each other for GCW standing. Value of a PvP kill will degrade with repeated killing of the same target. This value loss will decay over time.
        * NPC Space Combat: Defeating an NPC of equal or greater Tier value will grant an amount of GCW Points.
        * Space PvP Combat: Players will be able to battle each other for GCW standing. Value of a PvP kill will degrade over time with repeated killing of the same target. The value loss will decay over time. In addition, a bonus to space PvE kills will be afforded if the pilot is declared for PvP combat.
        * Ground PvP Regions: PvP combat that takes place within a PvP region will periodically receive bonus points for participation. The value of the bonus will be determined by overall activity, unique activity and faction imbalance.
        * Space PvP Regions: PvP combat that takes place within a PvP region will periodically receive bonus points for participation. The value of the bonus will be determined by overall activity, unique activity and faction imbalance.
        * Player Placed GCW Bases: Planetary control will provide a bonus to GCW standing, and base busting will provide bonus GCW standing similar to a PvP region.


    Rank Gain and Reward

    There are 12 ranks per side in the GCW system, six enlisted and six officers.

    Once a week a players GCW points will be computed and their faction standing will modify accordingly.

    Players will advance through the ranks normally on the enlisted end gaining rank commensurate with personal GCW participation. Once the players reach the officer ranks they will begin to lose standing during their weekly update. This increases the difficulty of advancement and dictates steady participation in GCW activities to maintain rank.
    The rank structure uses the factional Army advancement structure.

    Rank 1: I – Private, R – Private
    Rank 2: I – Lance Corporal, R – Trooper
    Rank 3: I – Corporal, R – High Trooper
    Rank 4: I – Sergeant, R – Sergeant
    Rank 5: I – Master Sergeant, R – Senior Sergeant
    Rank 6: I – Sergeant Major, I – Sergeant Major

    Rank 7: I – Lieutenant, R – Lieutenant
    Rank 8: I – Captain, R – Captain
    Rank 9: I – Major, R – Major
    Rank 10: I – Lt. Colonel, R – Commander
    Rank 11: I – Colonel, R – Colonel
    Rank 12: I – General, R – General

    Ranks will be displayed on the player avatar in the same fashion they are now, with a selection on the community page, and the rank title will appear above the characters name.

    On achieving enlisted and officer ranks, players gain the ability to purchase items from their faction recruiter.

    At the officer level players will also gain access to character abilities and to exclusive officer chat channels.

    If a player eventually loses an officer rank through inactivity, they will also lose access to the officer channels and abilities but will retain the ability to use any item rewards they have purchased.

    The Character Page
    A new tab will be added to the character page for the tracking of GCW status. The character page will appear in a similar fashion to this. Other players can view this page by examining your character.

    Name
    Graphical Progress Bar
    Rank Icon
    Rank
    GCW Standing (Week)
    PvP Kills (Week)
    GCW Standing (Lifetime)
    PvP Kills (Lifetime)
    Highest Rank Ever: If applicable, there will be a Rebel and an Imperial Highest rank achieved entry.

    Frequently asked questions:

    How do I join a faction?
    We are removing the barrier to entry for joining a faction. Any neutral player can approach a faction recruiter and immediately sign up without any 200 FP requirement.

    What is happening to Imperial and Rebel faction?
    Rebel and Imperial faction will be losing their “4th money” status, and will instead operate as any other faction by manipulating NPC reaction to your character.

    Bonus FAQ: What are the four money types?
    Cash, Bank, JTL credit chips and Faction.

    How will I obtain factional equipment in the new system?
    After obtaining the proper rank, available items will be purchased with credits.

    What will happen to my current faction rank?
    The current faction ranks and ranking system are being removed. There is no conversion planned into the new system due to the ease of gaming the old system. With the assistance of a smuggler, a new player could be a Colonel in under an hour.

    What will happen to the rewards and items recruiters currently sell?
    Everything a faction recruiter currently sells will be offered in the new system, in addition to the all new items. All granted schematics are at the first tier so aligned crafters will have access.

    Why did you use the Army ranks?
    The Imperial and Alliance Army rank structure had the greatest Fidelity from Enlisted to Officer. A number of ranks were matched in name rather than actual standing to avoid having a rank name at two different levels cross-faction.

    Does this mean we will see the return of the FRS soon?
    This is the old Force Ranking System. There are significant modifications to the point scoring rules and a rank decay officer filtering system rather than voting or arena combat.
    There are no plans for a competitive class based rank system.

    What happens if I resign from my faction?
    You will lose all standing, and the ability to use your factional equipment. If you later rejoin that faction you will begin advancement from the beginning, but will immediately regain use of any previously obtained factional equipment unless there is an additional rank requirement.

    How long will it take to advance in the new system?
    Currently at the max calculated advancement rate we would see our first General in 16 weeks.

    At what rate do the Officer ranks decay?
    Players can lose a maximum of 40% of a rank per week.

    How difficult is it to advance and maintain the officer ranks?
    Unknown at this time. We will be monitoring activity and have access to the knobs and buttons necessary to adjust accordingly should the system be deemed too steep or too easy.

    Travis Hicks
    Systems Designer
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Is that for real or just a player concept?  Sounds pretty nice if it is real :)

    Also, if it's as they say, the old FRS ranking system but modified, then didn't WoW copy SWG first? ;)

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  • Ho'merHo'mer Member Posts: 12
    Well the original link was just deleted like 5 minutes ago.  This to me tells me its legit.  I guess somebody had a senator friend that leaked the info.

  • Ho'merHo'mer Member Posts: 12
    F'n Bullsh1t.    I just got a 2 week forum ban.    I was speculating on what this secret system might be and they and one of my ideas was that LA would host Pre-CU servers.    Now this topic lasted for a few hours without any banning.  Then I post info about the GCW ranking system in another thread after it was deleted and bam,  i'm banned.   

  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438

    Just before I logged off, I heard on vent from someone reading the forums that they might be changing the trader profession to where there will be no more factories. They are supposed to introduce something different that should work better.

    I didn't read this myself, nor will I give my opinion on it. So take it as you will. Maybe this will be the big news or maybe not.

  • Ho'merHo'mer Member Posts: 12

    Nah, that's not it.  The idea about crafters becoming more hands on, and less dependant on factories was discussed by various devs the last few days in the 2 threads dealing with the crafting upgrade.

    I'm 100% positive that this is the new PVP system.   I believe i was banned because I mentioned I posted it here on other gaming forums.    F'n Mods.     Well at least I found a work-around for my IP being banned from browsing forums.   Just running my browsing thru some website that scrambles your IP address.  



  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438


    Originally posted by Ho'mer
    Nah, that's not it.  The idea about crafters becoming more hands on, and less dependant on factories was discussed by various devs the last few days in the 2 threads dealing with the crafting upgrade.

    I'm 100% positive that this is the new PVP system.   I believe i was banned because I mentioned I posted it here on other gaming forums.    F'n Mods.     Well at least I found a work-around for my IP being banned from browsing forums.   Just running my browsing thru some website that scrambles your IP address.  


    Well thanks for posting it man. I'll admit and people will hate me for it, but nevertheless, I am too busy playing the game to read SOE forums. It's been a long time (since Pre-NGE) since I could play an MMO all day long without being bored to death. It's great being able to log in and do nothing at all and still have fun. Anyways, if I am going to read a forum, it is this one.
  • War_DancerWar_Dancer Member Posts: 941

    Opps, Nevermind, misread a post

  • War_DancerWar_Dancer Member Posts: 941


    Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

    Originally posted by Unagi

    Originally posted by Starnick


    Originally posted by Obraik

    My guess is that it's the new PvP ranking system, which is on the publish plan for Chapter 3.  Also, I think that dev had mentioned earlier in a Restuss thread that they were revamping the faction point system too and once that was done, they'd think about upping the faction reward from the Restuss quests (if I understood that right :P)


    Hmmm....

    Oh and you're right about the player bases, I'm surprised folks haven't been talking about it...





    Hard for those so blinded by hate to read between the lines?




    It's not HATE. Its having absolutely no trust. Do you think they deserve 'trust' yet?


    He's not blinded by hate, he's too busy taking stabs at people who didn't like the NGE and feeling all superior.
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    I'm still waiting for my prize for guessing it first

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  • AthelaAthela Member Posts: 492


    Originally posted by Starnick

    Originally posted by Athela

    Originally posted by Starnick

    Originally posted by Obraik
    My guess is that it's the new PvP ranking system, which is on the publish plan for Chapter 3.  Also, I think that dev had mentioned earlier in a Restuss thread that they were revamping the faction point system too and once that was done, they'd think about upping the faction reward from the Restuss quests (if I understood that right :P)
    Hmmm....

    Oh and you're right about the player bases, I'm surprised folks haven't been talking about it...


    Yo, Nick, how's the good cop/bad cop routine working out for you guys?   I just have to ask if you volunteered or drew short straws...

    That said, yupper, the exciting and iconic leaderboard and pvp base stuff is probably the biggie.  It goes to show how much my head is never ever in pvp land that I didn't consider that stuff.

    Hated to comment on your post rather than the raw fish guy, but you do tend to be more quotable.

    /cheers 


    Lol, do you mean why I'm here (in reference to the good cop/bad cop)? I only really knew about mmorpg.com from the occassional SWG articles (and editorials) but I'm here on the forums on my own will...nothing official or anything.

    Oh and on the bases - to Obraik: Yes i'd love to see *real* battlefields back (and working + expanded). And to everyone else: There were PvE and PvP player-placed bases before they were disabled...so if they make a return.....


    Ya, good to have you here, but you have to admit, you and the fish came in at about the same time so it seemed, well, fishy.   

    Maybe you can illuminate how the Senate works/doesn't work for the claw-to-the-top fans.  Do you think the name "Senate" for instance is devisive in and of itself?  Would it be better if it went back to something more mundane and workmanlike sounding such as "Correspondent"?  What do you think of the current process of adding in Senators?  Did you feel the prior "every 6 months turn around" on Correspondents was a good idea or no?  Do you think the "Senate" is more or less effective than the prior system?

    Have a good day.

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