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PVP with full looting at last
havocthefirs
Member Posts: 229
I know this is a touchy subject but damn it Ill say it anyway.
Without looting PVP has no meaning at all, oh say what you will that just knowing I can beat so and so in duel is reward in itself, well its not. There is no thrill without the risk of losing all of your equipment.
I dont wanna hear about arena duels, epic battles, bar brawls, capture the flag, king of the hill, instanced fighting, you can only fight if everyones the same level with the same number of people on the same hunka ground with the same weapons, blah, bu blah, bu blah blah blah. Im sick of it already.
Heres how it should be. A war guild declares war on any number of guilds, if they accept a state of war exists and full looting is now in affect.
I know what your going to say so before you do just shhh, and know that I have whole pocket full shhh waiting for you so just let me finish explaining.
If your gear is crafted it will cheap and easy to replace, so no great loss there. If it is epic then you'll be an unstopable monster out there and your the one who will be doing the looting. If you dont want to take the chance of losing your epic gear well take it the heck off and let one of your non-guild characters use it.
Now notice there is no looting without consenting war guilds, so someone anyone please agree with me.
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I think there will Fame like in GuildWars.
Dont like people going 2 picky up my stuff
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They haven't spoken about PvP too much for this game. Honestly, I don't need an excuse to get in the arena to do battle. And I'm really more excited about the overall combat and game system more than I'm worried about what reasons a game can give to PvP. It's more about the challenge than the reward IMO.
so...
You left out 'to havocthefirs and a few other allegedly hardcore PVPers'.
what the effin'el does this have to do with Gods and Heroes dude.
"It is better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees,"
They are going to make a PvP server, but I don't imagine it won't have a greifer playstyle ruleset. The truth is that there really aren't that many greifers out there, so it wouldn't make financial sense to create a server for this playstyle.
Not to mention people who ask for this type system cant even handle it. They get all emo about loosing to people in pvp cause thier "ubar stuff" gets looted.
This guy is talking about pvp meaning something, which is pure crap anyways according to anyone who is any kind of pvp'er, as long as i kill you and kill you good i dont give a damn whats on your corpse, just so you know everytime you see me that i kicked your wussy little behind is enough and theres nothing you could have done about it. Cry more?
You want loot? Go kill some npcs, you wanna visit hades? come find ME, and dont forget to bring coins for the ferryman, LOTS OF THEM you'll be needing them as you get very aquainted with your second home.
I hope when civilations are introduced they will consider boarding towns that can be tribe (guild) controlled or built and ran. Outside of that I do like exploring good PvE content and will spend time doing that as well, and I think instances are great for major PvE content so you dont have to deal with the hardcores who can sit online for 8 hours a day camping a kill or an dungeon and you can just plan a time with friends and raid.
Game looks good, PvE experience and unique minion system will captive me for at least 3 months, end game well, i'm not really sure what end game will be like so I until its developed and i'm there experience i dont know if it will be a game that retain my pressence for multiple years.
Anyways voted NO on looting armor off of someone, I dont need that to make PvP Epic for myself, had it in EQ Rallos Zek, and all it led too was naked pvping for the most part. It had its draw, and that draw died quickly enough.
"It is better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees,"
Lol, tough talk from a guy not will to put his inventory on the line. If you think that BRAGGING rights or rank is something to be proud of your delusional. This is a game after all, do you think golfers, football players or any sports team (aka gamers of a different sort) plays for bragging rights? They play for the money pure and simple.
Put it this way, if there is looting, your telling me you would'nt loot, that bragging rights would be good enough? Of course you would, you'd have that body cracked open before it hit the ground.
As far as griefing goes, the only time theres griefing is when there is NO loot to take. No one camps an empty corpse. I've played WOW and yes people camp corpses. I've played UO and no one camps an empty corpse because theres no point.
Lol, tough talk from a guy not will to put his inventory on the line. If you think that BRAGGING rights or rank is something to be proud of your delusional. This is a game after all, do you think golfers, football players or any sports team (aka gamers of a different sort) plays for bragging rights? They play for the money pure and simple.
Put it this way, if there is looting, your telling me you would'nt loot, that bragging rights would be good enough? Of course you would, you'd have that body cracked open before it hit the ground.
As far as griefing goes, the only time theres griefing is when there is NO loot to take. No one camps an empty corpse. I've played WOW and yes people camp corpses. I've played UO and no one camps an empty corpse because theres no point.
I wont be hard to find just look for a character named Bugz loot or no doesnt matter you just find me.
what if you got xp from pvp? what if you did get loot from killing people, just not their loot? would it still be pointless to you?
I'm guessing it will be because what you seek is not pvp, it is grieving. i am not against full pvp looting in the right game but whenever i see someone post things like this it makes me laugh.
grievers like yourself will never be happy unless they are killing noobs and stealing all their stuff, to them their is no other point because all they care about is grieving not player vs player.
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While getting drops in the form of gold etc might not be so bad I am not fortaking hard earned things away from people in PvP.
But it was soooooo fun listening to the gankers whine....
Reward without risks makes for a very unrealistic, and boring game imo. How people can stand a game with little to no consequences for dieing is beyond me. I personally think this game could be even better with a full pvp system put into place.
If you want to farm all day long until it gets boring, and PVP has no meaning until finally it makes you want to quit, go play WoW, you'll love it.
Dont talk down unless you can say youve read up on this game fully enough to not agree with the options offered. This game is nothing like W.o.W had you read on it before posting youd have known that.
1. There are penalties for death . 3 forms of it.
2. a full pvp system including a full crafting system will be added post launch but dueling and arena combat will be available apon release.
3. pvp should be fun and NOT make you want to quit. Whoever told you while you were growing up that is was fun to beat yourself over the head with a hammer and smile at the pain should be locked away without release.
I read up on darkfall wasnt impressed. I'll stick with Gods & Heroes thanks.
Please, do tell how G&H is more impressive than Darkfall (other than graphics obviously). I would be VERY interested to hear this.