Originally posted by Infliction Just a couple of key points I have to make here... For one, I'm not sure if there have been studies on this or not (I'm sure there have, theres studies on everything), but since porn came about in media form, I'm pretty sure pillaging and rape has gone down by a significant percentage. Yes, masturbation helps supress sexual urges... Also, if abortion is "murder" because of the chemical reaction that has "the potential to live", can't we take it a step further and outlaw masturbation, because that semen could be used to impregnate a woman? Clearly this is murder too by these ideals. And what about this... Should women be required to get pregnant on their period? Those eggs sure could produce babies, such a waste, murder I say!
Well, I would be pro-life if I were a female, but being that I'm not, I support a woman's decision to have an abortion. Do I agree with it? No. I think it's irresponsibility on the part of both the man and woman. If you don't want to take BC, that's fine. If he doesn't want to use a condom, and you don't make him, that's fine. If he doesn't feel like pulling out, and you get caught in the heat of the moment, that's fine. Do you see where I'm going? If a woman wants to have intercourse that could likely result in a child, then she should take measures to prevent the meeting of the sperm and the egg. If she doesn't want a child, she should just wait a couple extra days and avoid the risk of pregnancy. Now if this woman throws all that to the wind and rawdogs it without burning any rubber, and doesn't like BC, she should be willing to foresee the possibility that she could get pregnant. I won't argue when life starts here, as that's a different issue. I just think that, with exception of rape, if a woman and a man voluntarily set themselves up for pregnancy, they shouldn't just say "Fuck it, it's not a baby yet, I'll inject a salty solution in there and burn the "chemical reaction"'s skin right off his bones, then pass him like a kidney stone."
You wanna be permiscuous, at least sacrifice 3/4 a year for your stupidity.
Regarding the decline of rape since porn has become more mainstream, I think that is a wrong assertion. Perhaps I am wrong, but everything I've read about rape is that it has very little to do with sex; it is about power. It is about a man trying to assert the fact that he can dominate the victim. Porn doesnt make one feel dominant. If the number of rapes has gone down, its due to other factors.
Originally posted by albinofreak Regarding the decline of rape since porn has become more mainstream, I think that is a wrong assertion. Perhaps I am wrong, but everything I've read about rape is that it has very little to do with sex; it is about power. It is about a man trying to assert the fact that he can dominate the victim. Porn doesnt make one feel dominant. If the number of rapes has gone down, its due to other factors.
Pornography allows the individual a certain freedom to play out violent fantasies, and therefore sate his urges in a private and non-harmful manner. In fact, there's a whole branch of porn which caters to the dominator. This form of pornography has indeed proven to be therepeutic, as has pornography in general.
"Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign." -baff
[quote][i]Originally posted by Theodoryk[/i] [b] [i]Originally posted by albinofreak[/i][b]Regarding the decline of rape since porn has become more mainstream, I think that is a wrong assertion. Perhaps I am wrong, but everything I've read about rape is that it has very little to do with sex; it is about power. It is about a man trying to assert the fact that he can dominate the victim. Porn doesnt make one feel dominant. If the number of rapes has gone down, its due to other factors. [/b] Pornography allows the individual a certain freedom to play out violent fantasies, and therefore sate his urges in a private and non-harmful manner. In fact, there's a whole branch of porn which caters to the dominator. This form of pornography has indeed proven to be therepeutic, as has pornography in general.[/b][/quote]
God I wish I had that argument when my parents found that folder a few years back.
My dad found my porn when I was fourteen. He was going through my shit for some reason, which doesn't really sit well with me to this day. So anyway, I came home, and he had all my magazines spread out on the coffee table. I think he had been planning some huge tirad, but for some reason all he could muster was "well, at least I know for sure you're not gay". LOL, fucker still threw my porn away though.
"Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign." -baff
My dad found my porn when I was fourteen. He was going through my shit for some reason, which doesn't really sit well with me to this day. So anyway, I came home, and he had all my magazines spread out on the coffee table. I think he had been planning some huge tirad, but for some reason all he could muster was "well, at least I know for sure you're not gay". LOL, fucker still threw my porn away though.
Hah, my dumb ass was dumb enough to watch it while my rents were in the living room. Needless to say, my dad walked by the computer room to check the mail, and saw the a full screen of pr0n. He didn't have the balls to confront me, so mommy had a nice sit down with me the next day. Oh how emberassing it was when she had to mention the fact it was girl on girl.
Conservatives are not the party of smaller, less intrusive government. Is this becoming clear to you who align yourself with these people? Is this really the folks you want in charge of the country? It's obvious that they don't believe in American ideals of personal freedom. They're trying to pick and choose what people are allowed to watch. And this seems okay to those of you who call yourselves "conservative"?
I don't want someone telling me what I can and can't watch. It's none of the governments business. And it's sickening that conservatives are using the government for social engineering. That doesn't scare some of you?
You're talking about a special interest group here. There are a billion different special interest groups on the right and left, and a lot of them have some whacked out agendas that we may or may not agree with. This is a non-story, IMO. If some hotels decide not to show porn, you are free to choose to stay at another hotel. If all hotels were to stop showing porn, you could always take your laptop with you, and access it over the internet.
Conservatives are not the party of smaller, less intrusive government. Is this becoming clear to you who align yourself with these people? Is this really the folks you want in charge of the country? It's obvious that they don't believe in American ideals of personal freedom. They're trying to pick and choose what people are allowed to watch. And this seems okay to those of you who call yourselves "conservative"?
I don't want someone telling me what I can and can't watch. It's none of the governments business. And it's sickening that conservatives are using the government for social engineering. That doesn't scare some of you?
Originally posted by Plasuma!!! This "curtail hotel porn" is good, in my opinion. Do you know how many CHILDREN go to hotels? Do you want them to flip through channels and find this stuff? Bloody pedophile, you are. "Conservative" means: to conserve the rights and freedoms of all legal citizens, and to ensure the economic and moral growth of the nation... obviously this ONE "incriminating" link is supposed thwart that party and all it's meaning, for the sake of pornography... which is not ethically right. Personally, I'm glad they're getting rid of a bit of it, pornography destroys minds with liberals being the result. The economy's going down hill now. Why? Bill Clinton set up NAFTA with China, it's taking it's toll now. Thanks Clinton, for making China a better place to live. Who cares about the mother nation, though... it's just a stupid country that isn't even worth protecting /end sarcasm. Liberals can never grasp the concept of "patriotism" for some reason. Of course, liberals never tried ANYthing against people's wishes... never. Not non-mandatory abortion or same-sex marriage, and escpecially not stealing money from tax payers by voting themselves raises or playing the stock market. /end sarcasm. That's just to name a few minor things, here's a list: http://www.republicanresearch.com/Pages/liberals.html Abortion goes against "thou shalt not kill", whether you're religious or not, it's a universal law that applies to everyone. If the mother's health is in danger and wanted the baby but risks her life, or someone was raped, those are exceptions. Regardless of your opinion, an unborn child is alive because it has the potential to live. Why not just practice abstinence until marriage? Oh, right... that's too hard for you lazy liberal baby-kicking wankers. http://whyliberalssuck.blogspot.com/2005/03/its-my-embryo-its-my-choice.html http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/45411/abortion_the_killing_of_innocents.html As a liberal, you hate conservatives because thay're "taking away your precious hotel porn". Serisouly... that's just plain stupid. If all you have is that article of crap, then you're a sad excuse for a human... your mother should have followed your family beliefs and aborted.
Hello angry hate filled conservative! Good strerotyping and fingerpointing thats all your side seems to do well these days. Sure go ahead claim to be pro-life but then send off thousands to die in a false war and countless civillians. Have you even been to a hotel? Children cant just flip through and find pron stupid you have to order it unless your at some dive that pays by the hour in which case nothing your kids see on tv will affect them as much as their real life lol. Liberals are all about LIBERTY for the most part and letting people make decisions for themselves it the right way to do things even if the desocion is sometimes wrong. Abortion is also a womens right and it may be the termination of a pregnancy but she has the choice and shouldnt have it taken away.
By telling someone their a sad excuse for a human and that they shoulda been aborted also makes me think your an asshole in which case debating with you is pointless because you will always support the same stupidity no matter what?
The only form of government in the world that can make sense, are those who are not driven by religious belief. Otherwise, its just another modern theocracy and it's an obsolete model.
You can teach non-religious people some sense, but you can't do that with religious one. Hence why all religion must die, so everybody can start to think by themselves and find inside of them what's best for humanity.
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
Originally posted by Xyang The only form of government in the world that can make sense, are those who are not driven by religious belief. Otherwise, its just another modern theocracy and it's an obsolete model. You can teach non-religious people some sense, but you can't do that with religious one. Hence why all religion must die, so everybody can start to think by themselves and find inside of them what's best for humanity.
Problem with that is religious people are so stuborn in their beliefs they ignorantly pass on to their children the same stupidity and carry on the cycle of idiocy and thats why it will take alot longer for our species to progress because religion is holding a good portion of us back and thats the truth plain and simple.
Conservatives are not the party of smaller, less intrusive government. Is this becoming clear to you who align yourself with these people? Is this really the folks you want in charge of the country? It's obvious that they don't believe in American ideals of personal freedom. They're trying to pick and choose what people are allowed to watch. And this seems okay to those of you who call yourselves "conservative"?
I don't want someone telling me what I can and can't watch. It's none of the governments business. And it's sickening that conservatives are using the government for social engineering. That doesn't scare some of you?
Why would anyone care about porn in motel rooms????
Originally posted by Plasuma!!! This "curtail hotel porn" is good, in my opinion. Do you know how many CHILDREN go to hotels? Do you want them to flip through channels and find this stuff? Bloody pedophile, you are.
Never been to a hotel in America, eh?
Because, you don't get any porn channel surfing at a hotel. First you have to select the PPV menu in the hotel TV system ... then you have to select the Adult section of the PPV's to order it, where it warns you there will be adult content ... then you have to order the porn ... and then you get to watch it. It's screened from innocent eyes far more effectively than the Playboy at the 7-11 ....
Now Holland, that's different .... free porn on hotel TV on 2 or 3 different channels, adveritising for escort services.
Maybe since we helped them re-gain their freedom from occupiers much more recently than we gained our own, they appreciate it and protect it more zealously? Just a thought.
I don't get it, I've never seen openly displayed porn in any of the hotels in my travels in america. they're all locked content channels that need to be accessed via credit card authorization.
If the concern is that children can access such content while their parents are out of the room, etc, then just add a clear clause in the paperwork when u sign up for your room. Make it big font as well.
basically, in the service receipt/stub/agreement:
"DO YOU WANT OPTIONAL ADULT CONTENT CHANNELS TO BE DELIVERED TO YOUR ROOM??"
if "yes" default service resumes, if "no", the clerk switches off a switch/setting in the TV service switchboard/setup interface.
Didn't the Republicans used to be the party of smaller government?
Yeah, they used to be. They were the ones that were supposed to uphold the constitution (hence the name republican). But, in recent years (and by that i mean within the last 100 years) democrats and republicans have swapped everything but their names.
Conservatives are not the party of smaller, less intrusive government. Is this becoming clear to you who align yourself with these people? Is this really the folks you want in charge of the country? It's obvious that they don't believe in American ideals of personal freedom. They're trying to pick and choose what people are allowed to watch. And this seems okay to those of you who call yourselves "conservative"?
I don't want someone telling me what I can and can't watch. It's none of the governments business. And it's sickening that conservatives are using the government for social engineering. That doesn't scare some of you?
Why would anyone care about porn in motel rooms????
You're missing the whole point.
Do you want the "Family Research Council" picking and choosing what you are allowed to watch and not watch? Do you want any group picking and choosing that?
It's not about porn in hotel rooms. It's about the principle of the whole thing.
What you should care about is people wanting to take your freedoms away. It starts out innocent and grows from there. That's why you stand up for yourself from the beginning. And you also stand up for people that you may not even agree with. Because you may be next and those people standing up for your freedom may keep you from losing them. You stand up for the principle idea of freedom, not each and every seperate issue. But the issue as a whole.
Didn't the Republicans used to be the party of smaller government?
Yeah, they used to be. They were the ones that were supposed to uphold the constitution (hence the name republican). But, in recent years (and by that i mean within the last 100 years) democrats and republicans have swapped everything but their names.
Leading to my current favorite quote from the one and only Charles Barkley: "Yeah, I was a Republican ... until they lost their minds."
There are way more horny businessmen that will not stand for this!!
Think about it the guy has been on the road for 4 out of 7 days and he just wants to rub 1 out and go to sleep.If you really want this country to keep being productive you cant take away the business guy's ability to rub 1 out once a week.
Anyway they could change "spectravision" a bit to have more parental controls wich is the real issue here.
(woot!! my 900th post is about defending porn!!)
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Do you want the "Family Research Council" picking and choosing what you are allowed to watch and not watch? Do you want any group picking and choosing that?
It's not about porn in hotel rooms. It's about the principle of the whole thing.
What you should care about is people wanting to take your freedoms away. It starts out innocent and grows from there. That's why you stand up for yourself from the beginning. And you also stand up for people that you may not even agree with. Because you may be next and those people standing up for your freedom may keep you from losing them. You stand up for the principle idea of freedom, not each and every seperate issue. But the issue as a whole.
You're missing the whole point.
Do you want the "Family Research Council" picking and choosing what you are allowed to watch and not watch? Do you want any group picking and choosing that?
It's not about porn in hotel rooms. It's about the principle of the whole thing.
What you should care about is people wanting to take your freedoms away. It starts out innocent and grows from there. That's why you stand up for yourself from the beginning. And you also stand up for people that you may not even agree with. Because you may be next and those people standing up for your freedom may keep you from losing them. You stand up for the principle idea of freedom, not each and every seperate issue. But the issue as a whole.
Businesses have a right to decide for themselves their own policies. People have a right to ask businesses to cater to them. If a restaurant you go to decides to not allow smoking in their restaurant you have the choice of whether or not to frequent the establishment. Same with this 'hotel porn' issue. These people have a right to petition these businesses to not have porn channels in the hotel rooms. Some hotels will decide to remove their porn service if they feel it will cost them more money and trouble than it will make them. Other hotels will decide to keep their porn, because Reavo always stays there and spends an extra $100 per night watching porn.
This is not taking your freedom away. You are free to go to another hotel that has porn service. If every hotel in the area does not have porn service, you can bring your DVD player or VCR and your own porn stash with you. Porn is readily available through many other means. If they were to ban porn altogether, then you might be able to make the case that you have lost your freedom to watch porn. But we live in the Pornography Age, a legendary time in which you can access porn on a whim.
On the other hand, you want to shut down these people's right to free speech. They are merely expressing themselves in an effort to make change. THAT is the essence of freedom. But you disagree with them, therefore they must be shut up. People and groups in this country are allowed to petition the government to shape law and the direction we go in. You may disagree with them, and you have the right to petition the government in opposition to them.
I, personally don't care that there is porn in my hotel room or not. I'm male... I like seeing naked chicks as much as the next guy. But these people have a right to their freedom of speech just like you or I.
Originally posted by honzolo You're missing the whole point.
Do you want the "Family Research Council" picking and choosing what you are allowed to watch and not watch? Do you want any group picking and choosing that?
It's not about porn in hotel rooms. It's about the principle of the whole thing.
What you should care about is people wanting to take your freedoms away. It starts out innocent and grows from there. That's why you stand up for yourself from the beginning. And you also stand up for people that you may not even agree with. Because you may be next and those people standing up for your freedom may keep you from losing them. You stand up for the principle idea of freedom, not each and every seperate issue. But the issue as a whole.
You're missing the whole point.
Do you want the "Family Research Council" picking and choosing what you are allowed to watch and not watch? Do you want any group picking and choosing that?
It's not about porn in hotel rooms. It's about the principle of the whole thing.
What you should care about is people wanting to take your freedoms away. It starts out innocent and grows from there. That's why you stand up for yourself from the beginning. And you also stand up for people that you may not even agree with. Because you may be next and those people standing up for your freedom may keep you from losing them. You stand up for the principle idea of freedom, not each and every seperate issue. But the issue as a whole.
Businesses have a right to decide for themselves their own policies. People have a right to ask businesses to cater to them. If a restaurant you go to decides to not allow smoking in their restaurant you have the choice of whether or not to frequent the establishment. Same with this 'hotel porn' issue. These people have a right to petition these businesses to not have porn channels in the hotel rooms. Some hotels will decide to remove their porn service if they feel it will cost them more money and trouble than it will make them. Other hotels will decide to keep their porn, because Reavo always stays there and spends an extra $100 per night watching porn.
This is not taking your freedom away. You are free to go to another hotel that has porn service. If every hotel in the area does not have porn service, you can bring your DVD player or VCR and your own porn stash with you. Porn is readily available through many other means. If they were to ban porn altogether, then you might be able to make the case that you have lost your freedom to watch porn. But we live in the Pornography Age, a legendary time in which you can access porn on a whim.
On the other hand, you want to shut down these people's right to free speech. They are merely expressing themselves in an effort to make change. THAT is the essence of freedom. But you disagree with them, therefore they must be shut up. People and groups in this country are allowed to petition the government to shape law and the direction we go in. You may disagree with them, and you have the right to petition the government in opposition to them.
I, personally don't care that there is porn in my hotel room or not. I'm male... I like seeing naked chicks as much as the next guy. But these people have a right to their freedom of speech just like you or I.
You can't compare smoking to porn. One actually harms people, and is outlawed in many states. I can't smoke at Waffle House any more, but it's law that decided that, not Waffle House. Porn doesn't affect anyone, and if it's so readily available, what could it hurt to have it in motels? I mean, you're saying it's ridiculously easy to find, so outlawing it in motels wouldn't stop youth from viewing it...so what's the point of your argument? Hamburgers are readliy available, but would I find it ridiculous if someone tried to outlaw them from McDonald's. Yea, I can go to Wendy's, but my rights have been infringed. I have no problem with free speech, but when that free speech tries to take away my rights it has crossed the line.
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I think it's irresponsibility on the part of both the man and woman. If you don't want to take BC, that's fine. If he doesn't want to use a condom, and you don't make him, that's fine. If he doesn't feel like pulling out, and you get caught in the heat of the moment, that's fine. Do you see where I'm going?
If a woman wants to have intercourse that could likely result in a child, then she should take measures to prevent the meeting of the sperm and the egg. If she doesn't want a child, she should just wait a couple extra days and avoid the risk of pregnancy. Now if this woman throws all that to the wind and rawdogs it without burning any rubber, and doesn't like BC, she should be willing to foresee the possibility that she could get pregnant. I won't argue when life starts here, as that's a different issue. I just think that, with exception of rape, if a woman and a man voluntarily set themselves up for pregnancy, they shouldn't just say "Fuck it, it's not a baby yet, I'll inject a salty solution in there and burn the "chemical reaction"'s skin right off his bones, then pass him like a kidney stone."
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[quote][i]Originally posted by Theodoryk[/i]
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[i]Originally posted by albinofreak[/i][b]Regarding the decline of rape since porn has become more mainstream, I think that is a wrong assertion. Perhaps I am wrong, but everything I've read about rape is that it has very little to do with sex; it is about power. It is about a man trying to assert the fact that he can dominate the victim. Porn doesnt make one feel dominant. If the number of rapes has gone down, its due to other factors. [/b]
Pornography allows the individual a certain freedom to play out violent fantasies, and therefore sate his urges in a private and non-harmful manner. In fact, there's a whole branch of porn which caters to the dominator. This form of pornography has indeed proven to be therepeutic, as has pornography in general.[/b][/quote]
God I wish I had that argument when my parents found that folder a few years back.
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My dad found my porn when I was fourteen. He was going through my shit for some reason, which doesn't really sit well with me to this day. So anyway, I came home, and he had all my magazines spread out on the coffee table. I think he had been planning some huge tirad, but for some reason all he could muster was "well, at least I know for sure you're not gay". LOL, fucker still threw my porn away though.
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i say get rid of the hairy bobing man ass movies from hotels i dont watch porn for that. thats why i watch lez porn it also helps my wifes bi.
Hello angry hate filled conservative! Good strerotyping and fingerpointing thats all your side seems to do well these days. Sure go ahead claim to be pro-life but then send off thousands to die in a false war and countless civillians. Have you even been to a hotel? Children cant just flip through and find pron stupid you have to order it unless your at some dive that pays by the hour in which case nothing your kids see on tv will affect them as much as their real life lol. Liberals are all about LIBERTY for the most part and letting people make decisions for themselves it the right way to do things even if the desocion is sometimes wrong. Abortion is also a womens right and it may be the termination of a pregnancy but she has the choice and shouldnt have it taken away.
By telling someone their a sad excuse for a human and that they shoulda been aborted also makes me think your an asshole in which case debating with you is pointless because you will always support the same stupidity no matter what?
{(RIP)} SWG
The only form of government in the world that can make sense, are those who are not driven by religious belief. Otherwise, its just another modern theocracy and it's an obsolete model.
You can teach non-religious people some sense, but you can't do that with religious one. Hence why all religion must die, so everybody can start to think by themselves and find inside of them what's best for humanity.
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
{(RIP)} SWG
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Because, you don't get any porn channel surfing at a hotel. First you have to select the PPV menu in the hotel TV system ... then you have to select the Adult section of the PPV's to order it, where it warns you there will be adult content ... then you have to order the porn ... and then you get to watch it. It's screened from innocent eyes far more effectively than the Playboy at the 7-11 ....
Now Holland, that's different .... free porn on hotel TV on 2 or 3 different channels, adveritising for escort services.
Maybe since we helped them re-gain their freedom from occupiers much more recently than we gained our own, they appreciate it and protect it more zealously? Just a thought.
I don't get it, I've never seen openly displayed porn in any of the hotels in my travels in america. they're all locked content channels that need to be accessed via credit card authorization.
If the concern is that children can access such content while their parents are out of the room, etc, then just add a clear clause in the paperwork when u sign up for your room. Make it big font as well.
basically, in the service receipt/stub/agreement:
"DO YOU WANT OPTIONAL ADULT CONTENT CHANNELS TO BE DELIVERED TO YOUR ROOM??"
if "yes" default service resumes, if "no", the clerk switches off a switch/setting in the TV service switchboard/setup interface.
It can't be that hard.
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You're missing the whole point.
Do you want the "Family Research Council" picking and choosing what you are allowed to watch and not watch? Do you want any group picking and choosing that?
It's not about porn in hotel rooms. It's about the principle of the whole thing.
What you should care about is people wanting to take your freedoms away. It starts out innocent and grows from there. That's why you stand up for yourself from the beginning. And you also stand up for people that you may not even agree with. Because you may be next and those people standing up for your freedom may keep you from losing them. You stand up for the principle idea of freedom, not each and every seperate issue. But the issue as a whole.
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Conservative activist Phil Burress, a self-described former porn
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Yeah i wouldnt worry about this too much.
There are way more horny businessmen that will not stand for this!!
Think about it the guy has been on the road for 4 out of 7 days and he just wants to rub 1 out and go to sleep.If you really want this country to keep being productive you cant take away the business guy's ability to rub 1 out once a week.
Anyway they could change "spectravision" a bit to have more parental controls wich is the real issue here.
(woot!! my 900th post is about defending porn!!)
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
I was just watching the news a few minutes ago and in arlington they are trying to outlaw the sagging of pants....its ridiculous it really is.....
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Do you want the "Family Research Council" picking and choosing what you are allowed to watch and not watch? Do you want any group picking and choosing that?
It's not about porn in hotel rooms. It's about the principle of the whole thing.
What you should care about is people wanting to take your freedoms away. It starts out innocent and grows from there. That's why you stand up for yourself from the beginning. And you also stand up for people that you may not even agree with. Because you may be next and those people standing up for your freedom may keep you from losing them. You stand up for the principle idea of freedom, not each and every seperate issue. But the issue as a whole.
Businesses have a right to decide for themselves their own policies. People have a right to ask businesses to cater to them. If a restaurant you go to decides to not allow smoking in their restaurant you have the choice of whether or not to frequent the establishment. Same with this 'hotel porn' issue. These people have a right to petition these businesses to not have porn channels in the hotel rooms. Some hotels will decide to remove their porn service if they feel it will cost them more money and trouble than it will make them. Other hotels will decide to keep their porn, because Reavo always stays there and spends an extra $100 per night watching porn.
This is not taking your freedom away. You are free to go to another hotel that has porn service. If every hotel in the area does not have porn service, you can bring your DVD player or VCR and your own porn stash with you. Porn is readily available through many other means. If they were to ban porn altogether, then you might be able to make the case that you have lost your freedom to watch porn. But we live in the Pornography Age, a legendary time in which you can access porn on a whim.
On the other hand, you want to shut down these people's right to free speech. They are merely expressing themselves in an effort to make change. THAT is the essence of freedom. But you disagree with them, therefore they must be shut up. People and groups in this country are allowed to petition the government to shape law and the direction we go in. You may disagree with them, and you have the right to petition the government in opposition to them.
I, personally don't care that there is porn in my hotel room or not. I'm male... I like seeing naked chicks as much as the next guy. But these people have a right to their freedom of speech just like you or I.
Do you want the "Family Research Council" picking and choosing what you are allowed to watch and not watch? Do you want any group picking and choosing that?
It's not about porn in hotel rooms. It's about the principle of the whole thing.
What you should care about is people wanting to take your freedoms away. It starts out innocent and grows from there. That's why you stand up for yourself from the beginning. And you also stand up for people that you may not even agree with. Because you may be next and those people standing up for your freedom may keep you from losing them. You stand up for the principle idea of freedom, not each and every seperate issue. But the issue as a whole.
Businesses have a right to decide for themselves their own policies. People have a right to ask businesses to cater to them. If a restaurant you go to decides to not allow smoking in their restaurant you have the choice of whether or not to frequent the establishment. Same with this 'hotel porn' issue. These people have a right to petition these businesses to not have porn channels in the hotel rooms. Some hotels will decide to remove their porn service if they feel it will cost them more money and trouble than it will make them. Other hotels will decide to keep their porn, because Reavo always stays there and spends an extra $100 per night watching porn.
This is not taking your freedom away. You are free to go to another hotel that has porn service. If every hotel in the area does not have porn service, you can bring your DVD player or VCR and your own porn stash with you. Porn is readily available through many other means. If they were to ban porn altogether, then you might be able to make the case that you have lost your freedom to watch porn. But we live in the Pornography Age, a legendary time in which you can access porn on a whim.
On the other hand, you want to shut down these people's right to free speech. They are merely expressing themselves in an effort to make change. THAT is the essence of freedom. But you disagree with them, therefore they must be shut up. People and groups in this country are allowed to petition the government to shape law and the direction we go in. You may disagree with them, and you have the right to petition the government in opposition to them.
I, personally don't care that there is porn in my hotel room or not. I'm male... I like seeing naked chicks as much as the next guy. But these people have a right to their freedom of speech just like you or I.
You can't compare smoking to porn. One actually harms people, and is outlawed in many states. I can't smoke at Waffle House any more, but it's law that decided that, not Waffle House.
Porn doesn't affect anyone, and if it's so readily available, what could it hurt to have it in motels? I mean, you're saying it's ridiculously easy to find, so outlawing it in motels wouldn't stop youth from viewing it...so what's the point of your argument?
Hamburgers are readliy available, but would I find it ridiculous if someone tried to outlaw them from McDonald's. Yea, I can go to Wendy's, but my rights have been infringed.
I have no problem with free speech, but when that free speech tries to take away my rights it has crossed the line.
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