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to laugh at the new SOE ad trying to get WoW users to play EQ1 like it is an upgrade to WoW. Muahahaha , Congratz to our Host on getting SOE to Advertise .
I know that both games are Fantasy but SOE has a real fantasy going on thinking that they are any WoW players for EQ1 while they wait for the burning crusades expansion that will allow them to get to level 70.
EQ 1 has had about 12 expasions in about 6 years and WoW is going on its first in 2 years. WoWs patchs have added more free content then the tight fisted ones at SOE would give up.
All of SOE games have dropped in playership and Now they have to bow the the king and beg for players. Its really SOE sad.
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Yeah SOE is has eq wich has been around since.....1999?
7 years with an mmo 1 graphics update and im sorry probably a TON more interesting content than WoW.Let me remind you that Blizzard actually said at 1 point that WoW would be nothing like EQ.
2 years later and what do we have?4 to 6 hour 40 man raids for uber loot?
Gosh where did they get that idea from?
Its obvious you dont like SOE for whatever reason....so what?
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
Fanboyism on display.
Please,EQ2 added much more free content then WoW ever did .I am not counting the 2 expansions or the add on packs which are paid .If i did then the content added far surpasses WoW added content.
I left WoW because
1)it is one of the slowest mmorpg i ever seen for new content.
2)It has a pvp ranking which defeats the purpose of "gaining at your own pace".Using a gushians curve for god sakes to determine rank promotion!
3)lack of any proper open pvp incentives
4)need to raid to be able to stand a chance in pvp.Intresting that the day after day 4-6 hours raid mentality of EQ1 is well alive in WoW .Only problem is EQ1 raids actually were challenging and fun,WoW ones are just repeat and rinse .
Its also Obvious so have very little idea what SOE has been doing for the past couple years if you have to ask why someone hates SOE.
I'll give you the shortened version.
SWG.
There are other reasons, but you will find that one is the most prevalent.
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Its also Obvious so have very little idea what SOE has been doing for the past couple years if you have to ask why someone hates SOE.
I'll give you the shortened version.
SWG.
There are other reasons, but you will find that one is the most prevalent.
never did like the way SWG was implemented anyhow so not a big fan.
However,i have played the EQ series and they did a great job with it.
Maybe you should ask LA about SWG ,since it seems the game SoE messed up with was also the one game in their stables they have to answer to another company about.
Its also Obvious so have very little idea what SOE has been doing for the past couple years if you have to ask why someone hates SOE.
I'll give you the shortened version.
SWG.
There are other reasons, but you will find that one is the most prevalent.
never did like the way SWG was implemented anyhow so not a big fan.
However,i have played the EQ series and they did a great job with it.
Maybe you should ask LA about SWG ,since it seems the game SoE messed up with was also the one game in their stables they have to answer to another company about.
I said SWG was the biggest reason in the recent past.
I don't have personal experience, but I've been told Planetside was screwed by them, and while MxO was never a powerhouse, it near died when SOW Aquired it.
And if SOE is so great, why is their Parent company Sony only reporting that they are being successful in Camcorders and Movies?
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I said SWG was the biggest reason in the recent past.
I don't have personal experience, but I've been told Planetside was screwed by them, and while MxO was never a powerhouse, it near died when SOW Aquired it.
And if SOE is so great, why is their Parent company Sony only reporting that they are being successful in Camcorders and Movies?
Erm planetside main complaints have been .
Balance-once one empire gets a balance other side moans.It happens in all mmo and FPS are more noticeable since all you do is pvp.Even mmorpg i seems to recall in WoW once the paladin gets a buff the horde shout and scream and visa versa.So did blizzard screw up WoW too and thus become a bad company?
Anyone playing planetside will tell you the game is more balanced now then ever before .This coming from a guy who played VS at launch!
Other issue was the overpowered BFR which i might add was something players wanted added.It got nerfed accordingly and fast.
Fact is FPS are very sensitive to even the mildest things.Like i said you pvp only .If i have a complaint against SoE is it takes them hours to remove and catch a cheat which in a normal mmorpg is pretty fast but in a FPS it can cause heartache if not done asap.
MxO- i do not know why you even brought this up at all.SoE got it as a side deal (not gonna explain that to you read it up).I think even SoE haters will easily admit it was on life support .So why blame SoE for a game which their only crime is keeping it going?
As for sony saying its only successful in camcoders and movies.Hmm a link would be nice for sure.
First Sony has the playstation which has made billions for them and if anything it would be on their list.
Secondly sony is a multi billion $ company so maybe they consider the millions of SoE small compared to their other ventures.
Thirdly if SoE is not protitable or successful with EQ1,EQ2,SWG each having well over 100k accounts each it means 90% of all mmorpg companies are not successful.
SOE has already shown previously their desperation and poor judgement with advertising.
They ran that EQ2 add on this site where they were bashing WoW for the queues. Only losers attack their competition instead of hyping their own positives, because they have none.
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The art styles are both in different directions but it feels like they both run off the same graphical engine if not one being slightly more superior..(eq-1)
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Its also Obvious so have very little idea what SOE has been doing for the past couple years if you have to ask why someone hates SOE.
I'll give you the shortened version.
SWG.
There are other reasons, but you will find that one is the most prevalent.
Im actually NOT asking why im SAYING so he hates SOE big deal....i mean really how many times does this subject matter have to come up?
I personally could care less.SWG has been an experiment from the day it was launched.
Yet people still play it.
MMO's that are popular have a revolving door playerbase.You dont really beleive that WoW has players with 10 level 60 characters on 1 players account on multiple servers do you?God how mundane that would be.
Ive heard about WoW and even played it.I wasnt impressed enough to actually go out and publicly putdown another game developer.
Again who cares?
As far as SWG goes its a wash let it be already.There will always be players that like the style it has turned into.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
This ad prove 1 thing.
SoE marketing is a word-class leader. I just hope their game designers would be as well!
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Nope. In marketing, attacking an opponent which is similarly successful or more successful than you is an aggressive approach. An aggressive approach is not always good, it depend on the mood of the peoples you are targetting. In this case, they are indeed bored with WoW for many reasons, instead of going into the detail, they make a simple attack and bring a simple truth and it is pure "coincidence" if there are 60 levels in WoW, could have happen to be any other game, getting a character in EQ to be fully developped is a LOT longer than in WoW and require a LOT more. They just forget to say it is all happening...in raids.
SoE has many flaws, but their marketing division is definitely their strongest asset. Going aggressive on a competitor who X10 to the MMO market size, sound like the only viable option to me. Saddly, this marketing team, no matter how great they are,can only use what the game designers, the devs and their teams give them. The best soldier in the world, equipped with rocks, is still throwing rocks!
I can only admire SoE marketing machine.
It also explain why a company like BioWare will not be aggresive, they will be BIGGER than anyone else, been aggressive with anyone smaller is a nonsense, it grant them attention they doesn't deserve. BioWare is really going to change the MMOs world, and they know it. Just watch and witness the glory of their coming, walking gods on Earth!
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Oh I am sure they'll add a few free things, but no major area quests/dungeons like Silithus/AQ and EPL/Naxx.
They were issuing free content for the past 20 months because the game wasn't finished when they released.
You SOE haters crack me up tbh.
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WoW sucks and its STILL 100x better than Everquest.
SOE is dead.
I will never purchase an SOE product, ever. They milked their fans with expansion after expansion, after claiming that $15 a month was for "content."
They used the month fee to develop expansions, then charged for expansions.
So what was the monthly fee for?
Pure profit.
They lied to their fans.
They screwed their SWG fans.
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