No Calbiyum you are stupid , WoW has 6 million players and EQ1 has drop to from the hey day of 550k to a paultry 200k. now lets do a little math 350k ( eq average over 6 years) X 6 years or 72 months x $ 12.00 montly fee = 302.4m
Now the average over the past two years is 3.5m for World of Warcraft , I won't embrass you be mutiplying the 24 monthy but WoW has made 336M , 24m more money then eq1, Now that is a comparsion and With that drop to only 200k peeps EQ1 is looking very long in the tooth Wilbur.
Originally posted by JestorRodo No Calbiyum you are stupid , WoW has 6 million players and EQ1 has drop to from the hey day of 550k to a paultry 200k. now lets do a little math 350k ( eq average over 6 years) X 6 years or 72 months x $ 12.00 montly fee = 302.4m Now the average over the past two years is 3.5m for World of Warcraft , I won't embrass you be mutiplying the 24 monthy but WoW has made 336M , 24m more money then eq1, Now that is a comparsion and With that drop to only 200k peeps EQ1 is looking very long in the tooth Wilbur.
I love how people throw around that 6 million subsciber mark. It's going to be funny when you find out that theres only 500k active wow subscriptions from everywhere but China where they have 5.5 million but don't pay the same monthly fees. Then we'll find out that the chinese government is getting all the chat logs to arrest disidents who play...
Originally posted by JestorRodo No Calbiyum you are stupid , WoW has 6 million players and EQ1 has drop to from the hey day of 550k to a paultry 200k. now lets do a little math 350k ( eq average over 6 years) X 6 years or 72 months x $ 12.00 montly fee = 302.4m Now the average over the past two years is 3.5m for World of Warcraft , I won't embrass you be mutiplying the 24 monthy but WoW has made 336M , 24m more money then eq1, Now that is a comparsion and With that drop to only 200k peeps EQ1 is looking very long in the tooth Wilbur.
I love how people throw around that 6 million subsciber mark. It's going to be funny when you find out that theres only 500k active wow subscriptions from everywhere but China where they have 5.5 million but don't pay the same monthly fees. Then we'll find out that the chinese government is getting all the chat logs to arrest disidents who play...
um...No. I clearly remember Blizzard saying they have about 2 million players in the US. unless, ofcourse, you can prove me wrong with an official statement.
Originally posted by JestorRodo No Calbiyum you are stupid , WoW has 6 million players and EQ1 has drop to from the hey day of 550k to a paultry 200k. now lets do a little math 350k ( eq average over 6 years) X 6 years or 72 months x $ 12.00 montly fee = 302.4m Now the average over the past two years is 3.5m for World of Warcraft , I won't embrass you be mutiplying the 24 monthy but WoW has made 336M , 24m more money then eq1, Now that is a comparsion and With that drop to only 200k peeps EQ1 is looking very long in the tooth Wilbur.
I love how people throw around that 6 million subsciber mark. It's going to be funny when you find out that theres only 500k active wow subscriptions from everywhere but China where they have 5.5 million but don't pay the same monthly fees. Then we'll find out that the chinese government is getting all the chat logs to arrest disidents who play...
Yes I now that the Chinese folks pay alot less but your remark about the chinese goverment sounds like fodder for the rumor room. But notwithstanding WoW is going up and all of SOE games are going down thus the desperate marketing measure .
Originally posted by JestorRodo Originally posted by CopelandOriginally posted by JestorRodo No Calbiyum you are stupid , WoW has 6 million players and EQ1 has drop to from the hey day of 550k to a paultry 200k. now lets do a little math 350k ( eq average over 6 years) X 6 years or 72 months x $ 12.00 montly fee = 302.4m Now the average over the past two years is 3.5m for World of Warcraft , I won't embrass you be mutiplying the 24 monthy but WoW has made 336M , 24m more money then eq1, Now that is a comparsion and With that drop to only 200k peeps EQ1 is looking very long in the tooth Wilbur. I love how people throw around that 6 million subsciber mark. It's going to be funny when you find out that theres only 500k active wow subscriptions from everywhere but China where they have 5.5 million but don't pay the same monthly fees. Then we'll find out that the chinese government is getting all the chat logs to arrest disidents who play... Yes I now that the Chinese folks pay alot less but your remark about the chinese goverment sounds like fodder for the rumor room. But notwithstanding WoW is going up and all of SOE games are going down thus the desperate marketing measure .
Well they've already done it with Yahoo. Why do you think china demands now that servers be on their soil and within their reach in order to operate. All major internet portals have equipment there. Don't place it in the realm of the impossible. Also in your equations you missing all the expansions SOE has sold. I think they're up to around 10 now.
I think its 12 expansions , but it would be amusing to have the sleeping dragon , China be brought to a stand still by WoW (SOE fail in the East , I am sure you know that already) . I recall problems with the provider in China though.
Originally posted by JestorRodo Since SOE has played hardball with me , I decided not to take my glove and go home . Like alot of SOE's mistakes , I am something they have to live with and if I see a mistake like this laughable attempt to get new subscibers, I am all to happy to point it out.
I'm sure you're keeping SOE up at night worried about the wrath of that jestor...
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Originally posted by Motorhead Originally posted by JestorRodo Since SOE has played hardball with me , I decided not to take my glove and go home . Like alot of SOE's mistakes , I am something they have to live with and if I see a mistake like this laughable attempt to get new subscibers, I am all to happy to point it out.
I'm sure you're keeping SOE up at night worried about the wrath of that jestor...
They E-mailed me once about posts I have made here , they are a paranoid lot.
The other post you linked to...let me see a rather...insane/liar part of you.
You were banned for trolling?
*looks at the first post of this topic*
Really trolling eh? I honestly don't see where they could have gotten that idea
Anyway your original post is just utter garbage. I don't understand what your saying. That is your problem That soe actually makes new content for their players? and blizzard is alot slower? Were did you pull that out of? but feeds players raid dungeons that have to be run repeatedly for gear to hide the fact that theres basically nothing at all to do? And because they offer that for free, it somehow makes it better?
In your very first post "EQ 1 has had about 12 expasions in about 6 years and WoW is going on its first in 2 years. WoWs patchs have added more free content then the tight fisted ones at SOE would give up. " 2 years for 1 xpac over 12 over 6 years, thats slow production right there.
How is that even logical? I am waiting for you to imply it ,,, still waiting
I implied that one of your main points was comparing the content the 2 games have produced. Weither that was just a afterthought put into your post, or one of the main points(which was only 4 short paragraphs)
for wow and eq2(since this is mainly a soe bash thread). I'd also list eq1 comparisons.. but i honestly don't follow the xpacs for it because the gameplay sickens me. Thats Ok , I am getting a headache from your reply
I merely was stating that the following paragraph would show the content put out compared to eq2 and wow, which were released at nearly the same point of time. Originally this was not in my response but i added it so youd know what game i was referring to
5 dungeons for free. 10 levels of content and 2x 1-20 content(paid) vs 20 levels of content, multiple adventure packs with additional content. And another xpac which will add 20 zones of content(throughout all levels) all paid Ok then , help me and anyone else reading this , which game are you reffering to?
Again one of your arguements was "wow gives me free content all the time! but soe is too cheap to!" so i listed ALL the content being added into wow and eq2. At the end of this year, eq2 is getting its 3rd xpac, and wow is getting its first. Again one of your original topics was wows supieror use of free content. I used eq2 because i have more experience with what content has and hasn't been added. EQ1...not as much And eq1 was released basically right after Jan of '99 which is 7 years not 6 as you've stated.
Is it really a content issue? Or is it simply the fact that your too cheap to buy the xpacs. And the free content appeals to you simply because its free? No, Its that SOE has made the EQ1 playing pay about $250.00 for all of their expasions ( if bought new) and WoW which has over 6 million players as oppose to eq1 which has 200k check http://www.mmorpgchart.com/Chart2.html , has its first expansion after 2 years.
WoW has alot of players, but that does not make eq2 or eq1 bad games, in fact, if you were to just take wow out of the market all together, the eqs aloing with most other mmos would be alot closer and theyd be "the norm" or one of the higher amounts of players.
Is that whats causing a thorn in your side? or is it simply the fact that you can't stand seeing any other games besides your FAVORITE GAME EVAAAA!!!! Did I say that WoW is my favorite game? try to advertise and get more players, simply because your afraid some people MIGHT. It's just a ad, thats what companies do, they advertise.
They do don't they ..but In SOE case , this attempt like alot of Marketing schemes of SOE , are not well thought out and that My friend, makes it truly laughable. Noone in their right mind would consider Eq1 an upgrade to WoW.
Where did you say it was your favorite? "to laugh at the new SOE ad trying to get WoW users to play EQ1 like it is an upgrade to WoW. Muahahaha , Congratz to our Host on getting SOE to Advertise ." Which is clearly a msg saying "wow is SO much better then eq1, advertising that eq1 could possibly be better then wow is preposterous."
also "WoWs patchs have added more free content then the tight fisted ones at SOE would give up. " Again saying wows totally better then soe and their games.
and lets not forget "All of SOE games have dropped in playership and Now they have to bow the the king and beg for players. Its really SOE sad"
Noone would consider eq1 a upgrade to wow. I may agree with that with the exception of players who seek content as well as gameplay. But iit still is marketting. They have to CHALLENGE the king, not bow to him. They have to give people a reason to try it out over wow.
You complain about spending alot of money on eq1?
WoW 50$ Burning crusade 40$ plans to speed up xpac production to 1 per year. 5 years of 1 xpac each, 40$ apiece. total? 290$ over 7 years, equal to eq1s prices.
Bladin just said tp me "Noone would consider eq1 a upgrade to wow. I may agree with that with the exception of players who seek content as well as gameplay. But iit still is marketting. They have to CHALLENGE the king, not bow to him. They have to give people a reason to try it out over wow. "
Well , Since SOE send me to the King , Long live the King , Down with the evil prince Smed.
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No Calbiyum you are stupid , WoW has 6 million players and EQ1 has drop to from the hey day of 550k to a paultry 200k. now lets do a little math 350k ( eq average over 6 years) X 6 years or 72 months x $ 12.00 montly fee = 302.4m
Now the average over the past two years is 3.5m for World of Warcraft , I won't embrass you be mutiplying the 24 monthy but WoW has made 336M , 24m more money then eq1, Now that is a comparsion and With that drop to only 200k peeps EQ1 is looking very long in the tooth Wilbur.
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I love how people throw around that 6 million subsciber mark. It's going to be funny when you find out that theres only 500k active wow subscriptions from everywhere but China where they have 5.5 million but don't pay the same monthly fees. Then we'll find out that the chinese government is getting all the chat logs to arrest disidents who play...
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I love how people throw around that 6 million subsciber mark. It's going to be funny when you find out that theres only 500k active wow subscriptions from everywhere but China where they have 5.5 million but don't pay the same monthly fees. Then we'll find out that the chinese government is getting all the chat logs to arrest disidents who play...
um...No. I clearly remember Blizzard saying they have about 2 million players in the US. unless, ofcourse, you can prove me wrong with an official statement.
I love how people throw around that 6 million subsciber mark. It's going to be funny when you find out that theres only 500k active wow subscriptions from everywhere but China where they have 5.5 million but don't pay the same monthly fees. Then we'll find out that the chinese government is getting all the chat logs to arrest disidents who play...
Yes I now that the Chinese folks pay alot less but your remark about the chinese goverment sounds like fodder for the rumor room. But notwithstanding WoW is going up and all of SOE games are going down thus the desperate marketing measure .
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Well they've already done it with Yahoo. Why do you think china demands now that servers be on their soil and within their reach in order to operate. All major internet portals have equipment there. Don't place it in the realm of the impossible. Also in your equations you missing all the expansions SOE has sold. I think they're up to around 10 now.
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They E-mailed me once about posts I have made here , they are a paranoid lot.
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The other post you linked to...let me see a rather...insane/liar part of you.
You were banned for trolling?
*looks at the first post of this topic*
Really trolling eh? I honestly don't see where they could have gotten that idea
Anyway your original post is just utter garbage. I don't understand what your saying. That is your problem That soe actually makes new content for their players? and blizzard is alot slower? Were did you pull that out of? but feeds players raid dungeons that have to be run repeatedly for gear to hide the fact that theres basically nothing at all to do? And because they offer that for free, it somehow makes it better?
In your very first post "EQ 1 has had about 12 expasions in about 6 years and WoW is going on
its first in 2 years. WoWs patchs have added more free content then
the tight fisted ones at SOE would give up. " 2 years for 1 xpac over 12 over 6 years, thats slow production right there.
How is that even logical? I am waiting for you to imply it ,,, still waiting
I implied that one of your main points was comparing the content the 2 games have produced. Weither that was just a afterthought put into your post, or one of the main points(which was only 4 short paragraphs)
for wow and eq2(since this is mainly a soe bash thread). I'd also list eq1 comparisons.. but i honestly don't follow the xpacs for it because the gameplay sickens me. Thats Ok , I am getting a headache from your reply
I merely was stating that the following paragraph would show the content put out compared to eq2 and wow, which were released at nearly the same point of time. Originally this was not in my response but i added it so youd know what game i was referring to
5 dungeons for free. 10 levels of content and 2x 1-20 content(paid) vs 20 levels of content, multiple adventure packs with additional content. And another xpac which will add 20 zones of content(throughout all levels) all paid Ok then , help me and anyone else reading this , which game are you reffering to?
Again one of your arguements was "wow gives me free content all the time! but soe is too cheap to!" so i listed ALL the content being added into wow and eq2. At the end of this year, eq2 is getting its 3rd xpac, and wow is getting its first. Again one of your original topics was wows supieror use of free content. I used eq2 because i have more experience with what content has and hasn't been added. EQ1...not as much And eq1 was released basically right after Jan of '99 which is 7 years not 6 as you've stated.
Is it really a content issue? Or is it simply the fact that your too cheap to buy the xpacs. And the free content appeals to you simply because its free? No, Its that SOE has made the EQ1 playing pay about $250.00 for all of their expasions ( if bought new) and WoW which has over 6 million players as oppose to eq1 which has 200k check http://www.mmorpgchart.com/Chart2.html , has its first expansion after 2 years.
WoW has alot of players, but that does not make eq2 or eq1 bad games, in fact, if you were to just take wow out of the market all together, the eqs aloing with most other mmos would be alot closer and theyd be "the norm" or one of the higher amounts of players.
Is that whats causing a thorn in your side? or is it simply the fact that you can't stand seeing any other games besides your FAVORITE GAME EVAAAA!!!! Did I say that WoW is my favorite game? try to advertise and get more players, simply because your afraid some people MIGHT. It's just a ad, thats what companies do, they advertise.
They do don't they ..but In SOE case , this attempt like alot of Marketing schemes of SOE , are not well thought out and that My friend, makes it truly laughable. Noone in their right mind would consider Eq1 an upgrade to WoW.
Where did you say it was your favorite? "to laugh at the new SOE ad trying to get WoW users to play EQ1 like it
also "WoWs patchs have added more free content then the tight fisted ones at SOE would give up. " Again saying wows totally better then soe and their games.is an upgrade to WoW. Muahahaha , Congratz to our Host on getting SOE
to Advertise ." Which is clearly a msg saying "wow is SO much better then eq1, advertising that eq1 could possibly be better then wow is preposterous."
and lets not forget "All of SOE games have dropped in playership and Now they have to bow the the king and beg for players. Its really SOE sad"
Noone would consider eq1 a upgrade to wow. I may agree with that with the exception of players who seek content as well as gameplay. But iit still is marketting. They have to CHALLENGE the king, not bow to him. They have to give people a reason to try it out over wow.
You complain about spending alot of money on eq1?
WoW 50$
Burning crusade 40$
plans to speed up xpac production to 1 per year.
5 years of 1 xpac each, 40$ apiece.
total? 290$ over 7 years, equal to eq1s prices.
Bladin just said tp me "Noone would consider eq1 a upgrade to wow. I may agree with that with the exception of players who seek content as well as gameplay. But iit still is marketting. They have to CHALLENGE the king, not bow to him. They have to give people a reason to try it out over wow. "
Well , Since SOE send me to the King , Long live the King , Down with the evil prince Smed.
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