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Spaceship mmorpgs versus fantasy mmorpgs(EvE fanboy attack :P )
holythough
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Lol i wanna do my "cheap shot" at the EvE fanboys.
I really enjoyed playing EvE but i still think in the end it is in fact a flawed concept it just takes longer to realize it because everthing you do in EvE takes 10 thimes as much time to do.
So EvE 170k subribers and slowly but steadily growing. No other spaceship mmorpg worth mentioning. The whole spaceship mmorpg community playing EvE what els is there ?
Against WoW and other fantasy based mmorpg EXPLOSIVELY growing. Ok ok i be fair about it WoW just got 4 million kiddies to play that should be on my list for cheap shots aswell but he facts are facts 
. Before WoW in the combined mmorpg that where fantasy based maybe around 2 million(just counting the ones with an monthly fee) and now 7 million.
95% playing fantasy mmorpg's and 5% playing the only spaceship mmorpg around. Man if i was still playing EvE i would take my conclusion and realize that EvE maybe is uniqeu but if it where as great as the EvE fanboys claim there should be atleast 3 million people playing it. The EvE fanboys are just fanatic and have to much time on there hands because doing things EvE is sooooooooooo slow there's nothing beter to do then to overrated the game and post on these forums
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woah, were does all the hatred come from here? Like the poster above you said, its good that there are niche games for only a few people. We should have more of them, instead of trying to mass market eveything.
Peeps that play Eve and stay with Eve are happy, why can't you just accept that? I am happy with UO, I do still play every mmorpg that comes out because of general interest, but I stay with my mmorpg as well. Is it maybe because you can't find a mmorpg that you are just happy with? Are you maybe a tad bit jealous of peeps that have? I really do not understand where you are coming from.
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Lol, i still have contact with a few EvE players i used to play with there not really happy the just don't have another game to turn to because there just not into character based mmorpg's. most of them only log onto eve when skill training needs to be set and do some PvPing in the weekends and there almost all running more then one account most of them because the wanted to get into researching but founded that it would take to long to do this on there main account. I'm also into character based mmorpg's so it was easy for me to switch they got nowhere to turn to. In de way EvE keeps people playing and that compared too normal mmorpg it's just one big SCAM. they promise that everybody can enojoy PvP not telling you have to play a whole freaking year to get to that point where you have a remote change against a long time player. By stretching the time needed to come to a competive skill set just by making it this so called "uniqeu" skill system it just takes most people 4 thimes as long to see it's no good. In a normal mmorpg they would find this out in a period on average of 3 months where in EvE it takes a year it's just that good of a scam. In a normal MMORPG you take at most 3 months to get to a level you can compete and find out if it's worthwhile staying in EvE this takes a year and then most stay because they don't want to admit to themselfs they let themselfs scammed for a whole year like my still playing EvE friends.
As for me not having a mmorpg to play. Sins i wanted to try shadowbane for a long time to see how there features really work out in reality and it has become free for play i actaully enjoying that game. It's not like EvE where i had fun the first 2 weeks figuring the game out then had something like oh hell everybody saying PvP is pretty good and i still think it is an very enjoyable way hhow EvE PvP works i have enjoyed EvE pvp a lot those time i actaully participated in larger scale battles but after 6 months i still got shot down by peeps in a 1v1 fight although old time veterans told me there was no way i could beter equip my ship and that in the fights i did against them i really showed skill. With all that skill i still got shot down ONLY because peeps i was up against just where longer time players not because of skill. So i left they game for what i find a GOOD reason the so called SKILL based system has NOTHING to do with SKILL.
Eve is just not for people that want to compete on eqaul basis because if they wanted that they started 3 years or so too late. When i started playing EvE i was like any EvE fanboy on these boards but i found out EvE is an empty promise not living up to the promises EvE fanboys like to set. As you said you must be a happy going person in EvE if you have any competitive nature in you EvE is absolutly NO GOOD
1) Its open PVP. Most people can't handle open PVP.
2) Death has consequences. Most people dont want consequences.
3) It cant be powerleveled. Most people want to level fast and get to "endgame."
4) It doesn't entertain you. Its a sandbox game, the players entertain themselves.
5) Its not cutesy. There are no elves or gnomes.
6) It has a higher learning curve than any other title out there.
7) And the biggest reason, most people don't even understand the CONCEPT of what Eve is. You don't see any content, its because the other players ARE the content. You don't advance by interacting with NPC's. You advance by interacting with other HUMANS. Your advancement is not skillpoints. Your advancement is in ISK. Money = Power
You know what would have 'sold' eve to me? (I played it, just didn't stick to it). Planetary exploration, ala Starcontrol or Starflight 2, scan the planet from orbit, find unique lifeforms or minerals mine and harvest em from a little landrover shuttle thing you could upgrade, dodge geogrpahical disturbances, mine harsh planets with speicalized gear... etc.. I'd still be playing even... ALL DAY EVERY DAY if it had those kinda features.
Shadus
You know what would have 'sold' eve to me? (I played it, just didn't stick to it). Planetary exploration, ala Starcontrol or Starflight 2, scan the planet from orbit, find unique lifeforms or minerals mine and harvest em from a little landrover shuttle thing you could upgrade, dodge geogrpahical disturbances, mine harsh planets with speicalized gear... etc.. I'd still be playing even... ALL DAY EVERY DAY if it had those kinda features.
That stuff is coming. Theres moon scans and moon mining so far.
0.0 is finally getting colonized. People are opening up neutral outposts for regular people to dock and live in 0.0
I think you would really enjoy the industrial side of the game.
You know what would have 'sold' eve to me? (I played it, just didn't stick to it). Planetary exploration, ala Starcontrol or Starflight 2, scan the planet from orbit, find unique lifeforms or minerals mine and harvest em from a little landrover shuttle thing you could upgrade, dodge geogrpahical disturbances, mine harsh planets with speicalized gear... etc.. I'd still be playing even... ALL DAY EVERY DAY if it had those kinda features.
I dunno it will probably be skills again which need months of training. If these kinda features would be in and i able to used ehm in let say max 3 months MAYBE. if it would take 1 MONTHS i would jump at it for sure that would be great features
Cleary EVE wasnt meant for you.
Lol , clearly EvE was meant for you
/me takes a deep breath
Oh for crying in a bucket if you dont like a game dont play it!!! I fail to grasp why people start such stupid bashing threads. I dont like world of dumbcraft either but I dont start stupid threads like this.
thankyou for wasting 4 minutes of my time
OP,
You are so goddam stupid it disgusts me, threads like this have been done so many times on this forum, and each one is stupider than the last. The topic has been discussed adequately so many times ive lost count, as has the retarded WoW vs EvE debate
Seriously people stop posting these retarded threads no one fucking cares anymore, its been done so many times just shut the fuck up please, and for the love of god dont answer these childish morons anymore.
heres a great thought, you should try it:
I DONT LIKE EVE, BUT ITS STILL A PRETTY GOOD GAME. For a lotta people out there.
No one cares about your dumbass opinion cos its just flamebait and its been done so many times.
FYI eve prolly does have the most harsh consequences as a result of death than any other mmo on the market at the moment.
For someone that played EvE your pretty thick, I figured this out from the few days I played it.
RANT OVER. END TOPIC. FOREVER.
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PAthetic you trant about somebody ranting. I didn't hid the fact it was a cheap shot. But your saying im an Dumbass by acting like a dumbass. As if this will ever going to be over on your saying so. This will neveer be over if people are promoting EvE for the wrong reasons and other people want to set things straight.
WoW versus Eve isn't worth debating there two different games peroid.
And it more like
I LIKE EVE BUT THERE SKILL SYSTEM ISN'T A SKILL SYSTEM AND I DON"T THINK IT"S WORTH THE MONETY BECAUSE OF IT. For 5$ a month i would join instanly i just don't find it worth it 15$ for more then half of the time i just wait for skills in the game
I must say your right on the dead part just think it still was only ennoying because the only "conseqeunce" in general mend a lot of refitting withouth the exp lost it just doesn't feel as personall to me as it does in character based games
I like the game and i played it a long time i still think any PvP game should make it possible to compete with long time players after a reasonable amount of time
erm mate thats just when you lose a cheap ship. Try working for an agent to gain enough loyalty points for a Faction Battleship (youl be there at least 3 weeks to a month) and since the battleship costs 1.6 billion isk (CNR) you arent going to fit cheap modules. Then you lose the ship trust me that realy hurts!!!
. Then you think OMFG 1 month of hard work just went down the drain
to ur post it is possable mate form a group of 4 - 6 cheap tech 1 frigs and u will easily pawn a very tough battleship just use good tactics
"Space ship MMO's"
SWG: Once had 350k users
Jumpgate
Darkspace
EVE
Infinity (Soon)
There are a couple others, can't remember their names at the moment.
Comparing EVE to WoW is silly. WoW has huge name recognition while EVE has none. WoW is sold on shelves all over the world, EVE is only sold online. EVE, despite the fact that the only places it is advertized are gamer sites, and typically MMORPG gamer sites, has grown steadily for the past 3 years and is growing faster every year.
Does WOW have more players? Sure it does...
Oh, and EVE China is about to open with 200,000 subscribers... that would put EVE at 370,000 subscribers worldwide. And god only knows how fast the china servers will grow.
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lol..
when did the time come that we hate people because they dont play a video game that you happen to like?
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erm mate thats just when you lose a cheap ship. Try working for an agent to gain enough loyalty points for a Faction Battleship (youl be there at least 3 weeks to a month) and since the battleship costs 1.6 billion isk (CNR) you arent going to fit cheap modules. Then you lose the ship trust me that realy hurts!!!
. Then you think OMFG 1 month of hard work just went down the drain
to ur post it is possable mate form a group of 4 - 6 cheap tech 1 frigs and u will easily pawn a very tough battleship just use good tactics
THey reall bitch is that i needed about months(dunno exact number anymore at least 2 months worth of training more skills) to train to fly a faction battleship already had about 7 billion isk at that time and so high faction i could get that battleship in under 2 weeks. But whats the point of all this waiting on skills ?
6 peeps defeating 1 isn't tatics. if it needed 6 people to bring down 1 person in a character based mmorpg everybody would scream NERF!!!! if you call that tatics you don't understand the meaning of the word tatic. Tatics are when you bring down a bigger number of people with a smaller number of people.
MMO migrant.