Originally posted by Salvatoris Originally posted by grinreaper Please name one thing they didnt deliver. And let me cut off the graphic bullshit right now, cuz you always bring it up...they amended their statment before release saying that all the graphics they had hoped for wouldnt be in at release, so dont trot that dead horse out again.
When you can talk to me like a respectable adult, I will respond in kind. Your posts in other threads have generally been fairly civil, so this one surprises me. I did not attack you... assuming you are not an RB employee, and I would appreciate it if you would try to at least keep your comments to me as polite and to the point as mine are to you. If you can't maintain a civil discourse, I will simply stop responding to your posts.
I am willing to listen to your opinion of the game and discuss it like grown-ups. I would appreciate the same courtesy from you. There is nothing you can do that damages your argument more than acting like a rabid fanboy and being openly rude to people simply because their opinion differs from yours.
Please name one thing they didnt deliver. Except for the graphics. Lets just agree to disagree there. If I am seen as a fanboi of this game, it is only in relation to the hate mongers.
Originally posted by grinreaper Originally posted by Salvatoris Originally posted by grinreaper Please name one thing they didnt deliver. And let me cut off the graphic bullshit right now, cuz you always bring it up...they amended their statment before release saying that all the graphics they had hoped for wouldnt be in at release, so dont trot that dead horse out again.
When you can talk to me like a respectable adult, I will respond in kind. Your posts in other threads have generally been fairly civil, so this one surprises me. I did not attack you... assuming you are not an RB employee, and I would appreciate it if you would try to at least keep your comments to me as polite and to the point as mine are to you. If you can't maintain a civil discourse, I will simply stop responding to your posts.
I am willing to listen to your opinion of the game and discuss it like grown-ups. I would appreciate the same courtesy from you. There is nothing you can do that damages your argument more than acting like a rabid fanboy and being openly rude to people simply because their opinion differs from yours.
Please name one thing they didnt deliver. Except for the graphics. Lets just agree to disagree there. If I am seen as a fanboi of this game, it is only in relation to the hate mongers.
Sempi and some of the other players here need to calm down.
As a player myself, I am embarassed at some of the things said here. Posting a selected positive quote from an outdated preview and claiming it is a REVIEW is just shameful. There is no excuse for this. Also saying that the graphics issue is the only thing we were misled about is also false.
To begin with, Roma Victor will never be close to other games graphics-wise... so what KFR had claimed was very upsetting for me to read. Also, we waited an extra two weeks for the release in order to have more animals and extra boards. We have no animals still, and no extra boards to speak of. I do not care if an animal was seen once or twice, or if the boards are currently in but are just not activated yet. If I cannot experience it ingame, then it does not exist from a player's standpoint.
Whenever we had questions about the release, we were told to refer to the "State of the World". The SotW has a skill list that is still missing 50% of what it claims, and mentioned other things we have never seen such as weather. In the devchats we were told the afterlife will be much more interesting upon release, and that we will be pleasantly surprised with the changes made to attending. Nothing changed in the afterlife, and nothing changed for attending. I could go on further if need be...
I have played this game since beta and still have much hope for it. I enjoy playing the game in its current state now, but I also believe this game will develop into something wonderful. I do not think the developers mislead us purposely, they seem to simply suffer from being overambitious. The community is excellent and mostly mature, and the developers are very open with us. Just look at how much Kanoth posts here, admits when he is wrong, and even responds to the most vocal of critics. That alone speaks volumes for their integrity as a company. For us players, we need to represent this game accurately to the public. There is no reason to cover or hide this game's faults. Some of the critics here may seem unfair and have their own agenda, but do not stoop to this level yourself. As much as there is wrong with this game, it is a very innovative sand box style MMORPG like no other on the market. We have to let the game stand on its own merits...
Tzitzimime, you sir are the type of fan I respect.
You are obviously passionate about the game and want it to succeed but don't stoop to lies and coverups like some of the fanbois trolling this forum.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it." Brad McQuaid Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc. Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes www.vanguardsoh
I can understand your reservations given what we've all seen in the past. All I can tell you is we're not the type that give up easily. I think this is the most stubburn group of guys I've known. 9-5 means nothing to them, a work day is more like wake up, work, when 3AM rolls around think about going to sleep, pass out on keyboard.
We're obviously not in this for the money, if we were we would have got a publisher to give us millions of dollars, then would have been subject to their whims. We like being in control, and a rocky start just makes the end product that much more impressive.
Keep an eye on us, we're not going anywhere.
I won't go near the game until I start seeing a flow of good review coming in. However, I will admit that your game is what I am looking for and I like your optimism. I am an optimistic person myself and I believe you to be a man/woman of your word and will trust you until so much time has passed, that it is no mistake that this game will not be finished.
I wish you all the best of luck and I will be waiting to play your game. I hope RV is finished within the next year. Really is a nice concept. Maybe a different revenue model might help?
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When you can talk to me like a respectable adult, I will respond in kind. Your posts in other threads have generally been fairly civil, so this one surprises me. I did not attack you... assuming you are not an RB employee, and I would appreciate it if you would try to at least keep your comments to me as polite and to the point as mine are to you. If you can't maintain a civil discourse, I will simply stop responding to your posts.
I am willing to listen to your opinion of the game and discuss it like grown-ups. I would appreciate the same courtesy from you. There is nothing you can do that damages your argument more than acting like a rabid fanboy and being openly rude to people simply because their opinion differs from yours.
Please name one thing they didnt deliver. Except for the graphics. Lets just agree to disagree there. If I am seen as a fanboi of this game, it is only in relation to the hate mongers.
There...feel better now?
When you can talk to me like a respectable adult, I will respond in kind. Your posts in other threads have generally been fairly civil, so this one surprises me. I did not attack you... assuming you are not an RB employee, and I would appreciate it if you would try to at least keep your comments to me as polite and to the point as mine are to you. If you can't maintain a civil discourse, I will simply stop responding to your posts.
I am willing to listen to your opinion of the game and discuss it like grown-ups. I would appreciate the same courtesy from you. There is nothing you can do that damages your argument more than acting like a rabid fanboy and being openly rude to people simply because their opinion differs from yours.
Please name one thing they didnt deliver. Except for the graphics. Lets just agree to disagree there. If I am seen as a fanboi of this game, it is only in relation to the hate mongers.
There...feel better now?
extended boards and maybe animals?
I love this game and i am saying that
Sempi and some of the other players here need to calm down.
As a player myself, I am embarassed at some of the things said here. Posting a selected positive quote from an outdated preview and claiming it is a REVIEW is just shameful. There is no excuse for this. Also saying that the graphics issue is the only thing we were misled about is also false.
To begin with, Roma Victor will never be close to other games graphics-wise... so what KFR had claimed was very upsetting for me to read. Also, we waited an extra two weeks for the release in order to have more animals and extra boards. We have no animals still, and no extra boards to speak of. I do not care if an animal was seen once or twice, or if the boards are currently in but are just not activated yet. If I cannot experience it ingame, then it does not exist from a player's standpoint.
Whenever we had questions about the release, we were told to refer to the "State of the World". The SotW has a skill list that is still missing 50% of what it claims, and mentioned other things we have never seen such as weather. In the devchats we were told the afterlife will be much more interesting upon release, and that we will be pleasantly surprised with the changes made to attending. Nothing changed in the afterlife, and nothing changed for attending. I could go on further if need be...
I have played this game since beta and still have much hope for it. I enjoy playing the game in its current state now, but I also believe this game will develop into something wonderful. I do not think the developers mislead us purposely, they seem to simply suffer from being overambitious. The community is excellent and mostly mature, and the developers are very open with us. Just look at how much Kanoth posts here, admits when he is wrong, and even responds to the most vocal of critics. That alone speaks volumes for their integrity as a company. For us players, we need to represent this game accurately to the public. There is no reason to cover or hide this game's faults. Some of the critics here may seem unfair and have their own agenda, but do not stoop to this level yourself. As much as there is wrong with this game, it is a very innovative sand box style MMORPG like no other on the market. We have to let the game stand on its own merits...
Tzitzimime, you sir are the type of fan I respect.
You are obviously passionate about the game and want it to succeed but don't stoop to lies and coverups like some of the fanbois trolling this forum.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
I can understand your reservations given what we've all seen in the past. All I can tell you is we're not the type that give up easily. I think this is the most stubburn group of guys I've known. 9-5 means nothing to them, a work day is more like wake up, work, when 3AM rolls around think about going to sleep, pass out on keyboard.
We're obviously not in this for the money, if we were we would have got a publisher to give us millions of dollars, then would have been subject to their whims. We like being in control, and a rocky start just makes the end product that much more impressive.
Keep an eye on us, we're not going anywhere.
I won't go near the game until I start seeing a flow of good review coming in. However, I will admit that your game is what I am looking for and I like your optimism. I am an optimistic person myself and I believe you to be a man/woman of your word and will trust you until so much time has passed, that it is no mistake that this game will not be finished.
I wish you all the best of luck and I will be waiting to play your game. I hope RV is finished within the next year. Really is a nice concept. Maybe a different revenue model might help?