Originally posted by Mrbloodworth Sorry man. Ill just say your wrong and leave it as that. Agree to disagree. Your tripping over the misuse of terms and using your own very narrow definition of them in order to discredit others comments. There are NO tactics in the NGE, everyone is the same. The combat is 1 (one) action at a time, specials are shallow + or - , nothing more. The queue was much better in planning and engaging in combat. Did you even play PRE-CU? Or is the DKIU style the only type of combat you have played with? Not trying to flame here, but your responses lead me to believe you never played PRE-CU, and eq combat clones are all you have seen. Anyone who played PRE-CU, and knows the skills and combat system available at the time would not be making statements as you are now. Also, mind shot.... The lamest skill ever... If thats the best downside you can come up with then. wow, just wow. All they had to do was replace that skill, or give people a way to heal mind... OR fix the gaping whole in helmets that allowed the player to be shot directly in the eye ignoring armor... Seems like that would have been better than removing the mind bar, and everything attached to it.ok, i guess i wont just leave it as that lol.whatever.
Narrow definition? I guess I could call black white, but it would still really be black wouldn't it? Planning combat? I prefer something more fluid and where I actually have to react to my attacker as well as plan attacks. Spamming up the same old list everytime was really rather boring.
Yep, I have played all 3 flavors of the game. EQ 2 combat is about as fun as watching paint dry. And just to be clear I rarely engage in combat in the NGE. I don't like the combat system and use it on a have to basis only. I find my fun in other aspects of the game currently. I did however have alot of fun with the CU combat as well as pre-cu, however I never found anything aweing about it tactically. There is no difference between queuing up 10 attacks and "adjusting" them and just waiting for each one to come around and push the button when it's time, atleast then its ALITTLE like a act and react situation instead of a massive spam attack.
And yes they could have given a mind heal but they didn't. And that was just an example. And none-the-less that is how alot of people played.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by jrscott Originally posted by shae - Fur lining as to avoid those nasty tin foil rashes on your forehead.See SOE. This is ergonomic design at its best! Instead of just releasing a product with no consideration to the physical difficulties of using it (like the garish icons introduced with the CU that made it impossible for color blind people to play), Shae has covered all bases. Great work Shae! 5 stars and a cookie.
OK jr, the whole icons thing is really thin. And people could still make their own buttons with macro's of all the specials. If you are THAT colorblind and can't tell the difference of button graphics how do you manage in the rest of the MMO?
And honestly, how long do you use the buttons to refer to what the function is? It takes me about an hour and then I have my buttons memorized and my hand just goes there. You don't like sit and use the mouse and click each button all the time do ya?
I know it was just a jest but that whole icon arguement drove me up a wall with the CU. I hated the old buttons, I felt like I was looking at street and restroom signs. They weren't even "star warsy".
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by KenshuAni Baby Seal fur, I hope? Though I guess that could attract PETA members...
PETA members already have their own tinfoil hats!
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by jrscott Originally posted by shae - Fur lining as to avoid those nasty tin foil rashes on your forehead.
See SOE. This is ergonomic design at its best! Instead of just releasing a product with no consideration to the physical difficulties of using it (like the garish icons introduced with the CU that made it impossible for color blind people to play), Shae has covered all bases.
Originally posted by jrscott Originally posted by shae - Fur lining as to avoid those nasty tin foil rashes on your forehead.
See SOE. This is ergonomic design at its best! Instead of just releasing a product with no consideration to the physical difficulties of using it (like the garish icons introduced with the CU that made it impossible for color blind people to play), Shae has covered all bases. Great work Shae! 5 stars and a cookie.
OK jr, the whole icons thing is really thin. And people could still make their own buttons with macro's of all the specials. If you are THAT colorblind and can't tell the difference of button graphics how do you manage in the rest of the MMO?
And honestly, how long do you use the buttons to refer to what the function is? It takes me about an hour and then I have my buttons memorized and my hand just goes there. You don't like sit and use the mouse and click each button all the time do ya?
I know it was just a jest but that whole icon arguement drove me up a wall with the CU. I hated the old buttons, I felt like I was looking at street and restroom signs. They weren't even "star warsy".
Speaking as someone that is colorblind, I didn't have a problem with the icons. It was the damn colorcoding of the level of mobs that caused me some slight problems.
It is very difficult for me to tell the difference between purple (instant death with the extremely idiotic damage mitigation based on levels) and blue (easy kill with the extremely idiotic damage mitigation based on levels). That being said, it was very easy for me to adjust, since the level was placed in that little color dot and I could read if it was CL 84 or CL 1284 (I did see one that high, funny story in that too).
OK jr, the whole icons thing is really thin. And people could still make their own buttons with macro's of all the specials. If you are THAT colorblind and can't tell the difference of button graphics how do you manage in the rest of the MMO? And honestly, how long do you use the buttons to refer to what the function is? It takes me about an hour and then I have my buttons memorized and my hand just goes there. You don't like sit and use the mouse and click each button all the time do ya? I know it was just a jest but that whole icon arguement drove me up a wall with the CU. I hated the old buttons, I felt like I was looking at street and restroom signs. They weren't even "star warsy".
I too thought the old buttons were at best boring. But in all honesty the new ones really do belong to WoW and EQ II, not Star Wars.
This issue was not important to me, but it was to a few friends. A little flexibility on SOE's part by allowing us a choice of button styles would not have been too much to ask.
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
Originally posted by shae All over it Fad, got you covered. We will be introducing a Special Edition "Hey Look I got a Warning... Thread" Tinfoil Hat. Anyone who has posted here is eligible for a 15% discount OR you can choose to have your very own complimentary Smed Morphed into a Donkey picture stamped on the side of the hat. Special features include: - Double sided industrial strength tin foil, shinny side up of course. - Fur lining as to avoid those nasty tin foil rashes on your forehead. - Personal engraving at no extra charge. - Flexible side antena to ward off any incomming "transmissions". - Can molded to your specifications, pointy, rounded, squarded. Whatever you want, you nutt ! There's even an optional side hanging cup holder and straw attachment for a nominal fee. Orders are being taken now.
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Well I was refering to
Clothes
(has up to 2 stats bioengineered into them with up to 4 sockets per peice(for clothing attachments)
Buffs
(took to extreme and made my own doc so I could make uber buffs and used a +200 med town)
stims
(used best to make best)
armor
(suit best suited for enemy PVP or PVE some creature specific IE MY GDK hunting suit had +25 def vs deseise)
(lowest encumberance possible with highest resist possible)
Weapon
(Use best type damage per enemys resistance)
(as Pistoleer I carried 7 Types)
foods
(to numberous to name a food for every use but each caused you to get full so had to balance)
drinks
(same as with food)
spices
(not hard all same quality one per stat could one for 15 min till you puked and turned weak)
dots
(Had to manage applying with pistoleer specials and make sure reapplied)
(had to manage dots on you)
States
(applying states like blind to lower accuracy differed per class)
Skill Attachments (pistoleer ones I remember)
(needed +25 cap your skill very rare and expensive big trick was using them so they wouldnt decay)
dodge
pistol accuracy
pistol accurracy while moving
pistol accurracy with standing
def vs knockdown
def vs dizzy
def vs desiese
ranged def
melee def
def vs blind
Pets
(could have one out some would attack or apply states)
Droids
(could have one out Could attack or heal or give boost to healing for docs)
Weapon PUP
thats all I remember anyway
But do remember each item could go from junk to uber (everyone) and it was the accusition of these that set others apart ..had to know a good weaponsmith... doc ...armorsmith...chef ...tailor...
You needed a crafter with uber resources(not easy to do) class specific knowledge, in a bonus town crafting on a perfect station, eating right foods and has luck
I had built personal relationships with my crafters suppling loot for best weapons/armors made... I also was a hella looter and looted em stuff they needed (so we partnered basically to help uber each other), so they came to love me. As I did them they taught me all about crafting.
other stuff I just tried to get best I could
power of my gun determined power of my skill dots along with accuracy vs enemy alot of food would
Also knowing your template vs enemies both PvP and PvE
Some MOBS might run up and whip out a uber stun weapon on yo ass actually I always had a blast PvE, Many narrow escapes and not so narrow(cloner) but alot were stories worth sharing but was always unpredictable and alotta fun been totally gone since CU.
By that I mean the whole experience is not even close by any means
Originally posted by jrscott Originally posted by Fadeus OK jr, the whole icons thing is really thin. And people could still make their own buttons with macro's of all the specials. If you are THAT colorblind and can't tell the difference of button graphics how do you manage in the rest of the MMO? And honestly, how long do you use the buttons to refer to what the function is? It takes me about an hour and then I have my buttons memorized and my hand just goes there. You don't like sit and use the mouse and click each button all the time do ya? I know it was just a jest but that whole icon arguement drove me up a wall with the CU. I hated the old buttons, I felt like I was looking at street and restroom signs. They weren't even "star warsy".I too thought the old buttons were at best boring. But in all honesty the new ones really do belong to WoW and EQ II, not Star Wars. This issue was not important to me, but it was to a few friends. A little flexibility on SOE's part by allowing us a choice of button styles would not have been too much to ask.
I like the new ones, I think they are done alot better then the original. I don't get why abstract style art like that has to be attached to fantasy. I collected Star Wars comic books up til RotJ, they were plenty Star Warsy.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by KenshuAni Speaking as someone that is colorblind, I didn't have a problem with the icons. It was the damn colorcoding of the level of mobs that caused me some slight problems. It is very difficult for me to tell the difference between purple (instant death with the extremely idiotic damage mitigation based on levels) and blue (easy kill with the extremely idiotic damage mitigation based on levels). That being said, it was very easy for me to adjust, since the level was placed in that little color dot and I could read if it was CL 84 or CL 1284 (I did see one that high, funny story in that too).
Well see, you just gotta use Marguul tactics. "Blue...purple, whatever just shoot it!".
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by kissodeath Well I was refering to Clothes (has up to 2 stats bioengineered into them with up to 4 sockets per peice(for clothing attachments)Buffs (took to extreme and made my own doc so I could make uber buffs and used a +200 med town)stims (used best to make best)armor (suit best suited for enemy PVP or PVE some creature specific IE MY GDK hunting suit had +25 def vs deseise) (lowest encumberance possible with highest resist possible)Weapon (Use best type damage per enemys resistance) (as Pistoleer I carried 7 Types)foods (to numberous to name a food for every use but each caused you to get full so had to balance)drinks (same as with food)spices (not hard all same quality one per stat could one for 15 min till you puked and turned weak)dots (Had to manage applying with pistoleer specials and make sure reapplied) (had to manage dots on you)States (applying states like blind to lower accuracy differed per class)Skill Attachments (pistoleer ones I remember) (needed +25 cap your skill very rare and expensive big trick was using them so they wouldnt decay) dodge pistol accuracy pistol accurracy while moving pistol accurracy with standing def vs knockdown def vs dizzy def vs desiese ranged def melee def def vs blindPets (could have one out some would attack or apply states)Droids (could have one out Could attack or heal or give boost to healing for docs)Weapon PUP thats all I remember anyway But do remember each item could go from junk to uber (everyone) and it was the accusition of these that set others apart ..had to know a good weaponsmith... doc ...armorsmith...chef ...tailor... You needed a crafter with uber resources(not easy to do) class specific knowledge, in a bonus town crafting on a perfect station, eating right foods and has luck I had built personal relationships with my crafters suppling loot for best weapons/armors made... I also was a hella looter and looted em stuff they needed (so we partnered basically to help uber each other), so they came to love me. As I did them they taught me all about crafting. other stuff I just tried to get best I could power of my gun determined power of my skill dots along with accuracy vs enemy alot of food would Also knowing your template vs enemies both PvP and PvESome MOBS might run up and whip out a uber stun weapon on yo ass actually I always had a blast PvE, Many narrow escapes and not so narrow(cloner) but alot were stories worth sharing but was always unpredictable and alotta fun been totally gone since CU. By that I mean the whole experience is not even close by any means Thats PRE CU strat
How in the hell do you get turned based out of that?? :S
And yes they took all that wonderful stuff out of the game and I miss alot of it. Some may make it back, however it should never of left in the first place.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Alright. 'fess up now. Who unlocked the SWGer's cages.
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Narrow definition? I guess I could call black white, but it would still really be black wouldn't it? Planning combat? I prefer something more fluid and where I actually have to react to my attacker as well as plan attacks. Spamming up the same old list everytime was really rather boring.
Yep, I have played all 3 flavors of the game. EQ 2 combat is about as fun as watching paint dry. And just to be clear I rarely engage in combat in the NGE. I don't like the combat system and use it on a have to basis only. I find my fun in other aspects of the game currently. I did however have alot of fun with the CU combat as well as pre-cu, however I never found anything aweing about it tactically. There is no difference between queuing up 10 attacks and "adjusting" them and just waiting for each one to come around and push the button when it's time, atleast then its ALITTLE like a act and react situation instead of a massive spam attack.
And yes they could have given a mind heal but they didn't. And that was just an example. And none-the-less that is how alot of people played.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
OK jr, the whole icons thing is really thin. And people could still make their own buttons with macro's of all the specials. If you are THAT colorblind and can't tell the difference of button graphics how do you manage in the rest of the MMO?
And honestly, how long do you use the buttons to refer to what the function is? It takes me about an hour and then I have my buttons memorized and my hand just goes there. You don't like sit and use the mouse and click each button all the time do ya?
I know it was just a jest but that whole icon arguement drove me up a wall with the CU. I hated the old buttons, I felt like I was looking at street and restroom signs. They weren't even "star warsy".
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
See SOE. This is ergonomic design at its best! Instead of just releasing a product with no consideration to the physical difficulties of using it (like the garish icons introduced with the CU that made it impossible for color blind people to play), Shae has covered all bases.
Great work Shae! 5 stars and a cookie.
5 starts AND a cookie...
You rock !!!
But Jr... I do it for the people, not the prizes.
Actually, to heck with that, gimme my cookie.
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OK jr, the whole icons thing is really thin. And people could still make their own buttons with macro's of all the specials. If you are THAT colorblind and can't tell the difference of button graphics how do you manage in the rest of the MMO?
And honestly, how long do you use the buttons to refer to what the function is? It takes me about an hour and then I have my buttons memorized and my hand just goes there. You don't like sit and use the mouse and click each button all the time do ya?
I know it was just a jest but that whole icon arguement drove me up a wall with the CU. I hated the old buttons, I felt like I was looking at street and restroom signs. They weren't even "star warsy".
Speaking as someone that is colorblind, I didn't have a problem with the icons. It was the damn colorcoding of the level of mobs that caused me some slight problems.
It is very difficult for me to tell the difference between purple (instant death with the extremely idiotic damage mitigation based on levels) and blue (easy kill with the extremely idiotic damage mitigation based on levels). That being said, it was very easy for me to adjust, since the level was placed in that little color dot and I could read if it was CL 84 or CL 1284 (I did see one that high, funny story in that too).
I too thought the old buttons were at best boring. But in all honesty the new ones really do belong to WoW and EQ II, not Star Wars.
This issue was not important to me, but it was to a few friends. A little flexibility on SOE's part by allowing us a choice of button styles would not have been too much to ask.
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
SAWEET!
Well I was refering to
Clothes
(has up to 2 stats bioengineered into them with up to 4 sockets per peice(for clothing attachments)
Buffs
(took to extreme and made my own doc so I could make uber buffs and used a +200 med town)
stims
(used best to make best)
armor
(suit best suited for enemy PVP or PVE some creature specific IE MY GDK hunting suit had +25 def vs deseise)
(lowest encumberance possible with highest resist possible)
Weapon
(Use best type damage per enemys resistance)
(as Pistoleer I carried 7 Types)
foods
(to numberous to name a food for every use but each caused you to get full so had to balance)
drinks
(same as with food)
spices
(not hard all same quality one per stat could one for 15 min till you puked and turned weak)
dots
(Had to manage applying with pistoleer specials and make sure reapplied)
(had to manage dots on you)
States
(applying states like blind to lower accuracy differed per class)
Skill Attachments (pistoleer ones I remember)
(needed +25 cap your skill very rare and expensive big trick was using them so they wouldnt decay)
dodge
pistol accuracy
pistol accurracy while moving
pistol accurracy with standing
def vs knockdown
def vs dizzy
def vs desiese
ranged def
melee def
def vs blind
Pets
(could have one out some would attack or apply states)
Droids
(could have one out Could attack or heal or give boost to healing for docs)
Weapon PUP
thats all I remember anyway
But do remember each item could go from junk to uber (everyone) and it was the accusition of these that set others apart ..had to know a good weaponsmith... doc ...armorsmith...chef ...tailor...
You needed a crafter with uber resources(not easy to do) class specific knowledge, in a bonus town crafting on a perfect station, eating right foods and has luck
I had built personal relationships with my crafters suppling loot for best weapons/armors made... I also was a hella looter and looted em stuff they needed (so we partnered basically to help uber each other), so they came to love me. As I did them they taught me all about crafting.
other stuff I just tried to get best I could
power of my gun determined power of my skill dots along with accuracy vs enemy alot of food would
Also knowing your template vs enemies both PvP and PvE
Some MOBS might run up and whip out a uber stun weapon on yo ass actually I always had a blast PvE, Many narrow escapes and not so narrow(cloner) but alot were stories worth sharing but was always unpredictable and alotta fun been totally gone since CU.
By that I mean the whole experience is not even close by any means
Thats PRE CU strat
I like the new ones, I think they are done alot better then the original. I don't get why abstract style art like that has to be attached to fantasy. I collected Star Wars comic books up til RotJ, they were plenty Star Warsy.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Well see, you just gotta use Marguul tactics. "Blue...purple, whatever just shoot it!".
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
How in the hell do you get turned based out of that?? :S
And yes they took all that wonderful stuff out of the game and I miss alot of it. Some may make it back, however it should never of left in the first place.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
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