Totally untrue.Fact is a korean game is usually made to suit the korean market and this gamestyle is not popular in the west.
If you make a game which is made in korea but say has DAoC style of play and look ppl will buy it in the west.
Or go WoW way which offered the gameplay style which is popular in the west with the cartoon style of asian game which got it good sales in china for instance.
Can anyone find a good Korean MMORPG? Wether they can or not would end this whole arguement.
But anyway, we hate Korean MMOs for the same reason we don't drink water in Mexico. It's generally a good idea! Webzen and Grando Espada might be the two exceptions but I'm sure there's places in Mexico that won't give you stomach viruses too.
Let's see, Reptitive, Overused, and also Language. those are the things we dislike, cause people continue to use the hack and slash gameplay (korea is famous for this) and it's been overused too many times that causes developers to become lazy, and also the Language of the country limits people from playing that from a opposite language (korean Only game)
I'll sum it up nice and short for the OP. My passed experience with games from various countries has proven that they are cheap, shallow and not fun for me. If british game companies decided to turn out exact copies of games with long grinds and terrible engines...forgive my "racism" for saying I don't like british games.
Originally posted by IdesofMarch ...Western-developed MMORPG's and Eastern-developed MMORPG's are made with very different approaches...many look for immersion in the gameworld, and things like translation if not done well (and rarely are) really break immersion.
Sometimes, you wake up in the morning and blow a big fart before you get out of the bed. Next morning the same thing happens. If a sound engineer and a few scientists had been in the room recording and observing the each event their report would conclude that both farts were essentially the same.
And that is the difference between so-called Asian and Western mmorpgs.
Game immersion broken by bad translation? Those stupid Asians! Just hire a white man to do the job, for god's sake!
Ok, I'll grant you that one, set me up the bomb.
Now, kindly give me the title of a Western-style mmorpg that is immersive, if you mean by the word "immersive" an experience so realistic that your world and the game world melt into each other like two pieces of cheese on a griddle.
Westerners have been programmed to think that their culture is superior compared to any other on the planet. The fact is, by chance---not skill, Europeans found North and South America and colonized it before anyone else could. This gave them material advantages that enabled them to rule most of the world, at least for a short while. Some posters in this thread are deeply affected by this legacy and the racist reinforcement it provides.
If I like McDonalds but hate Chinneese food am I a racist? If I like German cars am I a nazi?
listen to yourself for a second mate. Were talking about video games not people. Were talking about the tendency of Korean games in particular to focuss more on the grind and less on customisation DUE to their culture liking it. It is true and I prefer although still hate WOW to a grind fest, so what, the fact is almost everyone is aware of the differences in our games and their is a reason there different its called preference. If we liked Korean games our games would be the same type of games but we don't therefore we have different taste in games so what
Originally posted by IdesofMarch ...Western-developed MMORPG's and Eastern-developed MMORPG's are made with very different approaches...many look for immersion in the gameworld, and things like translation if not done well (and rarely are) really break immersion.
Sometimes, you wake up in the morning and blow a big fart before you get out of the bed. Next morning the same thing happens. If a sound engineer and a few scientists had been in the room recording and observing the each event their report would conclude that both farts were essentially the same.
And that is the difference between so-called Asian and Western mmorpgs.
Game immersion broken by bad translation? Those stupid Asians! Just hire a white man to do the job, for god's sake!
Ok, I'll grant you that one, set me up the bomb.
Now, kindly give me the title of a Western-style mmorpg that is immersive, if you mean by the word "immersive" an experience so realistic that your world and the game world melt into each other like two pieces of cheese on a griddle.
Westerners have been programmed to think that their culture is superior compared to any other on the planet. The fact is, by chance---not skill, Europeans found North and South America and colonized it before anyone else could. This gave them material advantages that enabled them to rule most of the world, at least for a short while. Some posters in this thread are deeply affected by this legacy and the racist reinforcement it provides.
OHNOES we are being attacked by a "lvl 200 political correctness Paladin"....run everyone. Btw I'm Asian....I think Korean games suck....I like German Cars.....eat from McDonalds....and I think most of the westerners are a lot less racist than Asians. And I really hope all the champions of political correctness, get sick and die horribly.
The fact is, by chance---not skill, Europeans found North and South America and colonized it before anyone else could. This gave them material advantages that enabled them to rule most of the world, at least for a short while.
Thats not entirely true, it also had alot to do with the advancement in various European devolped sciences but I don't see how history is relevant here and now since no one is claiming any race is superior.
Originally posted by IdesofMarch ...Western-developed MMORPG's and Eastern-developed MMORPG's are made with very different approaches...many look for immersion in the gameworld, and things like translation if not done well (and rarely are) really break immersion.
Sometimes, you wake up in the morning and blow a big fart before you get out of the bed. Next morning the same thing happens. If a sound engineer and a few scientists had been in the room recording and observing the each event their report would conclude that both farts were essentially the same.
And that is the difference between so-called Asian and Western mmorpgs.
Game immersion broken by bad translation? Those stupid Asians! Just hire a white man to do the job, for god's sake!
Ok, I'll grant you that one, set me up the bomb.
Now, kindly give me the title of a Western-style mmorpg that is immersive, if you mean by the word "immersive" an experience so realistic that your world and the game world melt into each other like two pieces of cheese on a griddle.
Westerners have been programmed to think that their culture is superior compared to any other on the planet. The fact is, by chance---not skill, Europeans found North and South America and colonized it before anyone else could. This gave them material advantages that enabled them to rule most of the world, at least for a short while. Some posters in this thread are deeply affected by this legacy and the racist reinforcement it provides.
Seriously. Go play City of Heroes and then go play ArchLord and tell me that they're the same game with the same approach to the genre. Get real. The games are different.
I'm also sorry that your expectations of immersion are so high. You're really missing out.
If you're going to quote my post and reply to it, at least don't then rant on about what you think westerners think and lump me into that group by quoting me. Never did I say western culture was superior, so I have no clue where you pulled that from. Well, I have a clue, but I won't say. Whatever helps you feel better I guess.
Ok, nothing wrong with the last part, but very few western people will bother with Korean games before they replace the grind part with an actual storyline. And they can't really do that since Korean players like to grind. Every MMO from that part of the world seems to be made for console gamers which basically eliminates any and all possibility of depth or intellectual challenge; westerners need more than eye candy + reflex based gameplay to remain interested.
Originally posted by Gameloading Because the amount of knowledge about asian mmorpg's on these boards is low. very low.an example, this was posted in the Granado Espada hype section:"nothing but another grind game, just like Archlord where alot of people hyped it to be the next great game but when they got into beta they saw that it was horrible. All korean mmo's have the same boring concept.....grind,grind and PvP."Many people don't know GS, but in short, this is basicly the same as saying that EVE online plays the EXACT same way as World of Warcraft. that should get you a good view how rediculous the statement is.
Granado Espada is one of the few Asian made games that I can say I'm truly interested in. It not only breaks the mold of the mmorpgs normally seen from that region but also breaks the mold of the western region, too. Although I still tend to lump most Asian made mmos into there own little stygmatic niche (i.e. L2 ripoff/grindfest,etc.), GE may be the game to dispell that perception for the people who really look at it. It could very well be a stepping stone to finally bridge the gaming divide between the cultures, but only time will tell.
Granado Espada is one of the few Asian made games that I can say I'm truly interested in. It not only breaks the mold of the mmorpgs normally seen from that region but also breaks the mold of the western region, too. Although I still tend to lump most Asian made mmos into there own little stygmatic niche (i.e. L2 ripoff/grindfest,etc.), GE may be the game to dispell that perception for the people who really look at it. It could very well be a stepping stone to finally bridge the gaming divide between the cultures, but only time will tell.
I thought you where interested in Aion also
One of the problems with the perception of Asian MMO's here in the west is that mainly the free to play ones are the only ones filtering over here. There are alot of premium games out there we just don't get to see and hear about. Its risky business to bring a game to the western market. We are not exactly filled with success stories. In fact all we really have is a long string of duds and failures. Why risk the cost with a track record like that? Western MMO's have performed so badly when compared to Asian, it looks we don't even like them. lol
One thing to keep in mind when you throw everything into the L2 clone category is this. Up until WoW, L1/L2 were the biggest most successful MMO's in the market. Of course alot of wannabe's where going to emulate it. Just like many accuse companies of "WoWifying" their games.
Show me where that isn't happening here in the west. The common tag for many games is EQ clone. Our devs and quality of games, overall isn't much better. Look at the parade of crap that has released over the last 2 years. I know we had this arguement before but you can't honestly say DDO was a quality release, or anything by SOE, or Dark and Light, or Auto Assault ( a north American made game) or just about anything released in the past 2 years including things like RF online....(asian) See where I'm going, its not just Asian games, its western as well.
Its silly to prejudge a game because of its national origin. Where would the entire genre be without the Final Fantasy series? Thats not exactly made by North Americans you know. Without the mass success of the Lineage series, proving there was a huge a market out there, where would MMO's be in general? When investors looking to these things they are salivating over those types of numbers, the L2's and WoW's of the market not the the EQII's, Asheron Calls, SWG's and DDO's.
You are going to see a big change coming soon in MMO's. Vanguard will NOT be leading it. Games like LotR (yes, I actually said something nice about Turbine, don't make me do it again) Aion, Warhammer and Age of Conan will be changing the way these games are made. The old forumla is a thing of the past. The Vanguards, EQII's and L2's will become the old dinosaurs that everyone will wonder why anyone even played them. The future of the genre is looking better IF it can survive long enough in the west.
Originally posted by Torak Originally posted by Zorvan
Granado Espada is one of the few Asian made games that I can say I'm truly interested in. It not only breaks the mold of the mmorpgs normally seen from that region but also breaks the mold of the western region, too. Although I still tend to lump most Asian made mmos into there own little stygmatic niche (i.e. L2 ripoff/grindfest,etc.), GE may be the game to dispell that perception for the people who really look at it. It could very well be a stepping stone to finally bridge the gaming divide between the cultures, but only time will tell.
I thought you where interested in Aion also
One of the problems with the perception of Asian MMO's here in the west is that mainly the free to play ones are the only ones filtering over here. There are alot of premium games out there we just don't get to see and hear about. Its risky business to bring a game to the western market. We are not exactly filled with success stories. In fact all we really have is a long string of duds and failures. Why risk the cost with a track record like that? Western MMO's have performed so badly when compared to Asian, it looks we don't even like them. lol
One thing to keep in mind when you throw everything into the L2 clone category is this. Up until WoW, L1/L2 were the biggest most successful MMO's in the market. Of course alot of wannabe's where going to emulate it. Just like many accuse companies of "WoWifying" their games.
Show me where that isn't happening here in the west. The common tag for many games is EQ clone. Our devs and quality of games, overall isn't much better. Look at the parade of crap that has released over the last 2 years. I know we had this arguement before but you can't honestly say DDO was a quality release, or anything by SOE, or Dark and Light, or Auto Assault ( a north American made game) or just about anything released in the past 2 years including things like RF online....(asian) See where I'm going, its not just Asian games, its western as well.
Its silly to prejudge a game because of its national origin. Where would the entire genre be without the Final Fantasy series? Thats not exactly made by North Americans you know. Without the mass success of the Lineage series, proving there was a huge a market out there, where would MMO's be in general? When investors looking to these things they are salivating over those types of numbers, the L2's and WoW's of the market not the the EQII's, Asheron Calls, SWG's and DDO's.
You are going to see a big change coming soon in MMO's. Vanguard will NOT be leading it. Games like LotR (yes, I actually said something nice about Turbine, don't make me do it again) Aion, Warhammer and Age of Conan will be changing the way these games are made. The old forumla is a thing of the past. The Vanguards, EQII's and L2's will become the old dinosaurs that everyone will wonder why anyone even played them. The future of the genre is looking better IF it can survive long enough in the west.
Torak, although I generally agree with your statement, I see major innovation coming from Huxley, Tabula Rasa, APB, etc instead of the games you've just mentioned above.
Maybe I'm severly getting tired of whole fantasy genre. There are simply too many of them.
Originally posted by HebrewBomb Originally posted by Torak
Torak, although I generally agree with your statement, I see major innovation coming from Huxley, Tabula Rasa, APB, etc instead of the games you've just mentioned above.
Maybe I'm severly getting tired of whole fantasy genre. There are simply too many of them.
I didnt mean that is a complete comprehensive list There are a lot of new great ideas coming.
I don't care to play Korean or buy Korean products for 1 reason. The government of South Korea prevents fair trade and competition. When they give american products equal footing to compete i'll consider Korean products.
Originally posted by Copeland I don't care to play Korean or buy Korean products for 1 reason. The government of South Korea prevents fair trade and competition. When they give american products equal footing to compete i'll consider Korean products.
yes, lets all quit playing MMORPG's because of politics...
What would be the main reason for anyone to play a MMorpg? would it not to have fun.. to be in a totally different world to maybe escape reality or some such? why would it even matter where the game came from...
that would be like oh lets say jugeing people for what color they were, etc..
maybe just maybe i am my fav color purple
life is a game... we play games to have fun... lets not not have fun..
Playing daoc and loving it totally.. have Played Eq,Eq2,WoW,Coh,Cov, and other.. which i have forgotten..
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Salvatoris Originally posted by Dark1989 I just think people shouldn't have the stereotype that Asian made mmorpgs have inferior quality, especially when u try to rate a game and judge it base on what country it's from. The sad thing is that MMORPG.COM's ranking system is highly biased because of this, but people around the world think it's accurate and authoritative.
It's a pretty accurate stereotype. It takes more than a few months to make a quality game. They do not invest the development time needed to create the depth of content that is one of the most defining differences between Western and Korean MMOS.
And this is exactly what I am talking about.
Korean MMORPG's take just as long to make as Western MMORPG's. for example, AL,L2, both took over 4 years to make. Granado Espada, same story. RO2, again, same thing. been in development for years.
Everytime I see the name Gameloading, theres always a flame to be found shortly after. So we dont like Korean MMO's big freaking deal. I dont like swiss cheese, therefore I must hate the swiss. Not a big fan of Canadian bacon, well thats because I hate em too. When I was in college, I hung out with a couple Chinese guys who shared with me the concept of Yellow Fever.
Whats that you ask? Well its akin to the term "whigger" (slang for white folks usurping black culture). Except its reserved for the white guys who are the ultimate fanbois of eastern culture.
Granted I learned about it because they accused me of having yellow fever for trying to hang out in their little group and talk about martial arts and whatnot.
The point is, its not racist that we dont like Eastern games, anymore than its racist that eastern cultures dont particularly enjoy a product we in the western hemisphere produce.
I do not enjoy korean mmos one little bit. Does this mean I will never buy another pair of Nike's because I know theyre put together by some guy in Taiwan? Of course not! If I felt like Nikes were ugly and I didnt enjoy wearining them, I would tell people just that. It has nothing to do with who made em. It has everything to do with personal taste.
And further more, calling racism at this juncture is extremely tacky. Why dont you all head over to some Korean websites, learn some Korean, and complain about how crappy western MMO's are?
Because really its insulting that this post was started on a racism rant. You need to realize were all entitled to our opinion, and pulling a race card out just because most of us dislike korean mmos is about as low as y ou can take this forum. Congratulations.
P.S. Trust me when I say, white Americans arent extremely well liked across the board either, so lets all scream racism because most African Americans dont like country music.
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Totally untrue.Fact is a korean game is usually made to suit the korean market and this gamestyle is not popular in the west.
If you make a game which is made in korea but say has DAoC style of play and look ppl will buy it in the west.
Or go WoW way which offered the gameplay style which is popular in the west with the cartoon style of asian game which got it good sales in china for instance.
Can anyone find a good Korean MMORPG? Wether they can or not would end this whole arguement.
But anyway, we hate Korean MMOs for the same reason we don't drink water in Mexico. It's generally a good idea! Webzen and Grando Espada might be the two exceptions but I'm sure there's places in Mexico that won't give you stomach viruses too.
three words....
shovelware shovelware shovelware
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lol What a great thread!
I'll sum it up nice and short for the OP. My passed experience with games from various countries has proven that they are cheap, shallow and not fun for me. If british game companies decided to turn out exact copies of games with long grinds and terrible engines...forgive my "racism" for saying I don't like british games.
Sometimes, you wake up in the morning and blow a big fart before you get out of the bed. Next morning the same thing happens. If a sound engineer and a few scientists had been in the room recording and observing the each event their report would conclude that both farts were essentially the same.
And that is the difference between so-called Asian and Western mmorpgs.
Game immersion broken by bad translation? Those stupid Asians! Just hire a white man to do the job, for god's sake!
Ok, I'll grant you that one, set me up the bomb.
Now, kindly give me the title of a Western-style mmorpg that is immersive, if you mean by the word "immersive" an experience so realistic that your world and the game world melt into each other like two pieces of cheese on a griddle.
Westerners have been programmed to think that their culture is superior compared to any other on the planet. The fact is, by chance---not skill, Europeans found North and South America and colonized it before anyone else could. This gave them material advantages that enabled them to rule most of the world, at least for a short while. Some posters in this thread are deeply affected by this legacy and the racist reinforcement it provides.
If I like McDonalds but hate Chinneese food am I a racist? If I like German cars am I a nazi?
listen to yourself for a second mate. Were talking about video games not people. Were talking about the tendency of Korean games in particular to focuss more on the grind and less on customisation DUE to their culture liking it. It is true and I prefer although still hate WOW to a grind fest, so what, the fact is almost everyone is aware of the differences in our games and their is a reason there different its called preference. If we liked Korean games our games would be the same type of games but we don't therefore we have different taste in games so what
Sometimes, you wake up in the morning and blow a big fart before you get out of the bed. Next morning the same thing happens. If a sound engineer and a few scientists had been in the room recording and observing the each event their report would conclude that both farts were essentially the same.
And that is the difference between so-called Asian and Western mmorpgs.
Game immersion broken by bad translation? Those stupid Asians! Just hire a white man to do the job, for god's sake!
Ok, I'll grant you that one, set me up the bomb.
Now, kindly give me the title of a Western-style mmorpg that is immersive, if you mean by the word "immersive" an experience so realistic that your world and the game world melt into each other like two pieces of cheese on a griddle.
Westerners have been programmed to think that their culture is superior compared to any other on the planet. The fact is, by chance---not skill, Europeans found North and South America and colonized it before anyone else could. This gave them material advantages that enabled them to rule most of the world, at least for a short while. Some posters in this thread are deeply affected by this legacy and the racist reinforcement it provides.
OHNOES we are being attacked by a "lvl 200 political correctness Paladin"....run everyone. Btw I'm Asian....I think Korean games suck....I like German Cars.....eat from McDonalds....and I think most of the westerners are a lot less racist than Asians. And I really hope all the champions of political correctness, get sick and die horribly.
I know not of great Egg waffle that Uncle Sam is putting on his daily plate, but I certainly know one great innovation that he came up with lately:
A very distinctive one I might have to add ...
Namely,
/Pizza
Sometimes, you wake up in the morning and blow a big fart before you get out of the bed. Next morning the same thing happens. If a sound engineer and a few scientists had been in the room recording and observing the each event their report would conclude that both farts were essentially the same.
And that is the difference between so-called Asian and Western mmorpgs.
Game immersion broken by bad translation? Those stupid Asians! Just hire a white man to do the job, for god's sake!
Ok, I'll grant you that one, set me up the bomb.
Now, kindly give me the title of a Western-style mmorpg that is immersive, if you mean by the word "immersive" an experience so realistic that your world and the game world melt into each other like two pieces of cheese on a griddle.
Westerners have been programmed to think that their culture is superior compared to any other on the planet. The fact is, by chance---not skill, Europeans found North and South America and colonized it before anyone else could. This gave them material advantages that enabled them to rule most of the world, at least for a short while. Some posters in this thread are deeply affected by this legacy and the racist reinforcement it provides.
Seriously. Go play City of Heroes and then go play ArchLord and tell me that they're the same game with the same approach to the genre. Get real. The games are different.
I'm also sorry that your expectations of immersion are so high. You're really missing out.
If you're going to quote my post and reply to it, at least don't then rant on about what you think westerners think and lump me into that group by quoting me. Never did I say western culture was superior, so I have no clue where you pulled that from. Well, I have a clue, but I won't say. Whatever helps you feel better I guess.
Korean MMO = massive grind + PvP + nekkid ladies.
Ok, nothing wrong with the last part, but very few western people will bother with Korean games before they replace the grind part with an actual storyline. And they can't really do that since Korean players like to grind. Every MMO from that part of the world seems to be made for console gamers which basically eliminates any and all possibility of depth or intellectual challenge; westerners need more than eye candy + reflex based gameplay to remain interested.
I thought you where interested in Aion also
One of the problems with the perception of Asian MMO's here in the west is that mainly the free to play ones are the only ones filtering over here. There are alot of premium games out there we just don't get to see and hear about. Its risky business to bring a game to the western market. We are not exactly filled with success stories. In fact all we really have is a long string of duds and failures. Why risk the cost with a track record like that? Western MMO's have performed so badly when compared to Asian, it looks we don't even like them. lol
One thing to keep in mind when you throw everything into the L2 clone category is this. Up until WoW, L1/L2 were the biggest most successful MMO's in the market. Of course alot of wannabe's where going to emulate it. Just like many accuse companies of "WoWifying" their games.
Show me where that isn't happening here in the west. The common tag for many games is EQ clone. Our devs and quality of games, overall isn't much better. Look at the parade of crap that has released over the last 2 years. I know we had this arguement before but you can't honestly say DDO was a quality release, or anything by SOE, or Dark and Light, or Auto Assault ( a north American made game) or just about anything released in the past 2 years including things like RF online....(asian) See where I'm going, its not just Asian games, its western as well.
Its silly to prejudge a game because of its national origin. Where would the entire genre be without the Final Fantasy series? Thats not exactly made by North Americans you know.
Without the mass success of the Lineage series, proving there was a huge a market out there, where would MMO's be in general? When investors looking to these things they are salivating over those types of numbers, the L2's and WoW's of the market not the the EQII's, Asheron Calls, SWG's and DDO's.
You are going to see a big change coming soon in MMO's. Vanguard will NOT be leading it. Games like LotR (yes, I actually said something nice about Turbine, don't make me do it again) Aion, Warhammer and Age of Conan will be changing the way these games are made. The old forumla is a thing of the past. The Vanguards, EQII's and L2's will become the old dinosaurs that everyone will wonder why anyone even played them. The future of the genre is looking better IF it can survive long enough in the west.
I thought you where interested in Aion also
I said ONE of the FEW
Yes, I am interested to see where Aion goes.
I thought you where interested in Aion also
One of the problems with the perception of Asian MMO's here in the west is that mainly the free to play ones are the only ones filtering over here. There are alot of premium games out there we just don't get to see and hear about. Its risky business to bring a game to the western market. We are not exactly filled with success stories. In fact all we really have is a long string of duds and failures. Why risk the cost with a track record like that? Western MMO's have performed so badly when compared to Asian, it looks we don't even like them. lol
One thing to keep in mind when you throw everything into the L2 clone category is this. Up until WoW, L1/L2 were the biggest most successful MMO's in the market. Of course alot of wannabe's where going to emulate it. Just like many accuse companies of "WoWifying" their games.
Show me where that isn't happening here in the west. The common tag for many games is EQ clone. Our devs and quality of games, overall isn't much better. Look at the parade of crap that has released over the last 2 years. I know we had this arguement before but you can't honestly say DDO was a quality release, or anything by SOE, or Dark and Light, or Auto Assault ( a north American made game) or just about anything released in the past 2 years including things like RF online....(asian) See where I'm going, its not just Asian games, its western as well.
Its silly to prejudge a game because of its national origin. Where would the entire genre be without the Final Fantasy series? Thats not exactly made by North Americans you know.
Without the mass success of the Lineage series, proving there was a huge a market out there, where would MMO's be in general? When investors looking to these things they are salivating over those types of numbers, the L2's and WoW's of the market not the the EQII's, Asheron Calls, SWG's and DDO's.
You are going to see a big change coming soon in MMO's. Vanguard will NOT be leading it. Games like LotR (yes, I actually said something nice about Turbine, don't make me do it again) Aion, Warhammer and Age of Conan will be changing the way these games are made. The old forumla is a thing of the past. The Vanguards, EQII's and L2's will become the old dinosaurs that everyone will wonder why anyone even played them. The future of the genre is looking better IF it can survive long enough in the west.
Torak, although I generally agree with your statement, I see major innovation coming from Huxley, Tabula Rasa, APB, etc instead of the games you've just mentioned above.
Maybe I'm severly getting tired of whole fantasy genre. There are simply too many of them.
Are there any current generation Asian MMO's?
The reason people don't like them is surely because they are outmoded. There are plenty of rubbish western MMo's too.
I'm looking forward to Huxley. That's Asian.
Maybe I'm severly getting tired of whole fantasy genre. There are simply too many of them.
I didnt mean that is a complete comprehensive list
I don't care to play Korean or buy Korean products for 1 reason. The government of South Korea prevents fair trade and competition. When they give american products equal footing to compete i'll consider Korean products.
Make a difference!
that would be like oh lets say jugeing people for what color they were, etc..
maybe just maybe i am my fav color purple
life is a game... we play games to have fun... lets not not have fun..
Playing daoc and loving it totally..
have Played
Eq,Eq2,WoW,Coh,Cov,
and other..
which i have forgotten..
It's a pretty accurate stereotype. It takes more than a few months to make a quality game. They do not invest the development time needed to create the depth of content that is one of the most defining differences between Western and Korean MMOS.
And this is exactly what I am talking about.
Korean MMORPG's take just as long to make as Western MMORPG's. for example, AL,L2, both took over 4 years to make. Granado Espada, same story. RO2, again, same thing. been in development for years.
Everytime I see the name Gameloading, theres always a flame to be found shortly after. So we dont like Korean MMO's big freaking deal. I dont like swiss cheese, therefore I must hate the swiss. Not a big fan of Canadian bacon, well thats because I hate em too. When I was in college, I hung out with a couple Chinese guys who shared with me the concept of Yellow Fever.
Whats that you ask? Well its akin to the term "whigger" (slang for white folks usurping black culture). Except its reserved for the white guys who are the ultimate fanbois of eastern culture.
Granted I learned about it because they accused me of having yellow fever for trying to hang out in their little group and talk about martial arts and whatnot.
The point is, its not racist that we dont like Eastern games, anymore than its racist that eastern cultures dont particularly enjoy a product we in the western hemisphere produce.
I do not enjoy korean mmos one little bit. Does this mean I will never buy another pair of Nike's because I know theyre put together by some guy in Taiwan? Of course not! If I felt like Nikes were ugly and I didnt enjoy wearining them, I would tell people just that. It has nothing to do with who made em. It has everything to do with personal taste.
And further more, calling racism at this juncture is extremely tacky. Why dont you all head over to some Korean websites, learn some Korean, and complain about how crappy western MMO's are?
Because really its insulting that this post was started on a racism rant. You need to realize were all entitled to our opinion, and pulling a race card out just because most of us dislike korean mmos is about as low as y ou can take this forum. Congratulations.
P.S. Trust me when I say, white Americans arent extremely well liked across the board either, so lets all scream racism because most African Americans dont like country music.