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Publishing with Sony has got to be a plus...
Billius8
Member Posts: 574
Face it, as much as Sony has been bashed, most will admit there is no better publisher in the world. Sony puts its stamp on a game, uses its top-notch servers to host, to patch, etc..., then this can only be a plus for any game.
While I, like others, might have shown past dissatisfaction with some of Sony's design decisions, I have never faulted Sony for being able to produce and host games. I'd rather have a game run with a Sony patch engine than any offered by any other company out there.
Sony is the best... at some things.
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May I continue this reply by saying... Good Sir, I implore you to remove your head from your ass and smell the fresh air!
I can think of many better publishers for making games, publishers that have good reputations for respecting and providing for their memberbase. Something SoE has never been able to grasp due to its own greed.
Top notch servers? Well they're not bad, but what good are servers if the dictations SoE makes ruins the game they host.
Patch? if you mean by releasing shoddy content that was promised for retail then I guess so. SoE games are actually very buggy and the majority of bugs dont get fixed until years after retail. Many classes in SoE games are unbalanced and SoE turns a blind eye to this most of the time.... The majority of SoE expansions arent even worthy of patch status.
SoE's reputation among many gamers has labelled them as a terrible publisher for MMORPG's. They are known to be money grabbing and decietful and shortsighted to their customers. Any game that accepts SoE publishing is going to put themselves under scrutiny from players who have been subject to SoE's behaviour. As a result, a partial of MMORPG gamers are not going to play the game out of objection towards SoE.
SoE couldnt wipe its arse with both hands.
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EQ1-AC1-DAOC-FFXI-L2-EQ2-WoW-DDO-GW-LoTR-VG-WAR-GW2-ESO
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Uh, I played WoW for over a year, did all the content that was available when I played, and I enjoyed WoW a lot. But while I was a wow fanboi, I acknowledged the fact that their servers sucked, 5 second lag in raid instances sucked, and their lack of single group content at endgame sucked. Now the content issue isn't what I was refering to. I was refering to the server issue. For over a year we had to deal with "Retrieving characters, please wait". For over a year we had to deal with horrible lag in raid instances (instancing was supposed to lag less right?) For over a year we had to deal with server resets during primetime and other server issues.
Sure you can throw the subscription numbers around, but it means nothing to me. I was one of the 6-7mil that played, but I'm not stupid enough to say they didn't have server issues for over a year.
EQ1-AC1-DAOC-FFXI-L2-EQ2-WoW-DDO-GW-LoTR-VG-WAR-GW2-ESO
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Thank you for owning so I don't have to.
QFA (Quoted for awesomeness)
Thank you for owning so I don't have to.
I wont argue that, the lagg does need fixing. But I doubt you left becuase of the lagg, you left becuase you'd played all the content and wanted to play something else for a change, after a year?
Compare to SWG, or EQ2... Im just not seeing any correlation.
Anarchyart, grow up.
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I'm not going to argue any of the points you made but to just use you as an example of what i am about to point out.
i think it is funny that so many people bash the vanguard fan base because supposedly every time someone makes a post about vanguard they blow up on them or bash them for having a negative opinion yadda yadda yadda...
but yet most or at least a good chunk of these people doing the accusing are soe-haters witch do the same thing when someone makes a thread like this to just voice their opinion, witch had nothing to do with vanguard or the development of any game past or present.
i think both you and the OP made some good points but you insulting him because he has a different opinion than you puts you in the same category as those trolls over on the vanguard official forums.
not saying you personally have ever voiced a opinion about the vanguard fans, again i am using you as an example to make a point to some people that frequent these forums (you know who you are).
I am sort of confused; some posters in here seem to be in the understanding that SOE is going to be making decisions about the development of this game. SOE has nothing at all to do with the development of this game, and very little to do with the day to day operations and management of the game, they basically are the middle man in this situation, even as far as players reporting bugs, and having game play discussion or asking for changes anything like that all of it goes to the developer not to SOE. SOE is basically providing marketing that will be approved by the developer, and run the servers of the game, and do billing, thats basically it in a nut shell. SOE has nothing to do with this game at all, so I dont understand why anyone would think they do. Bring it on down now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
If you dont believe me, Vivendi forced and earlier release date on Blizzard, fortunately Blizzard were able to finish in time.
Regarding the insult, I was feeling trollish last night.
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It is quite possible that SOE could do the same to Sigil. With SOE's track record of late its not only possible its also probable.
Kai
Doing business with SOE is like doing business with the Mafia..........once they have their meathooks in you they will never let go.
Haha, take you're own advice and take your head our of your arse.
First off, please point to the press release where WoW has 7 million subscribers... don't quote the NYT article cause they never quoted their source either.
Second, Blizzard never pissed off their member base? Do you even play WoW? Seriously visit their forums. There is far more hate directed at Blizzard than SoE has ever had, past present and future, in their forums.
Neither company is perfect, but SoE has provided a much more stable server and game play for me. On top of that SoE doesn't ask me to provide bandwidth cause they are to cheap to provide their own for patches ala Blizzard.
http://www.greycouncil.org/
Haha, take you're own advice and take your head our of your arse.
First off, please point to the press release where WoW has 7 million subscribers... don't quote the NYT article cause they never quoted their source either.
Second, Blizzard never pissed off their member base? Do you even play WoW? Seriously visit their forums. There is far more hate directed at Blizzard than SoE has ever had, past present and future, in their forums.
Neither company is perfect, but SoE has provided a much more stable server and game play for me. On top of that SoE doesn't ask me to provide bandwidth cause they are to cheap to provide their own for patches ala Blizzard.
I call shenanigans on that comment. WoW has 5+ million subscribers. SOE doesnt have even a tenth of that in any one of their games. Per capita percentages I am willing to bet WoW has far fewer negative responses. If WoW has 50k players upset that is mearly 1% of their player base. But if SOE's SWG has 50k players upset that is half of their player base. And on any forum, WoW or otherwise, 50k people can make some noise.
Much more stable server? I played SWG for the first two years. Crashes and disconnects were considered commonplace. On the same connection with WoW, that I played for a year, I have had one (I repeat ONE) crash. And as for lag I have been in huge battles in WoW that lagged less then a small 5 vs 5 battle in SWG.
Kai
Haha, take you're own advice and take your head our of your arse.
First off, please point to the press release where WoW has 7 million subscribers... don't quote the NYT article cause they never quoted their source either.
Second, Blizzard never pissed off their member base? Do you even play WoW? Seriously visit their forums. There is far more hate directed at Blizzard than SoE has ever had, past present and future, in their forums.
Neither company is perfect, but SoE has provided a much more stable server and game play for me. On top of that SoE doesn't ask me to provide bandwidth cause they are to cheap to provide their own for patches ala Blizzard.
Click here to read about the 7mill subscribers
As Kai just said, Blizzard have a much larger constituency but the percentage is generally lower. You also dont have the majority of the games memberbase quiting after each patch. Sure people were disgruntled from time to time, but you dont have people quitting on enmasse.
SoE servers have less stress, where WoW servers ussually borderline 3000 at peak times, SoE servers (in SWG/EQ2) barely peak 1000. This brings up another arguement, would you rather have no lagg and an empty server, or a bit of lagg and a full server.
Also its good to remember, that when a game releases and gets 6 mill subscribers fairly quickly, its going to take time for them to upgrade/adapt their server hardware. Blizzard knew their game would be big but they werent expecting the numbers they have. When SWG released for the first 6 months it was laggy as far as I recall.
Wow has improved significantly.
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Here's something interesting from an article on this site:
When it was announced that Sigil would be co-producing this game with Sony Online Entertainment, it was inevitable that there would be some backlash from players who feel cheated by the experience that they have had with Star Wars Galaxies, and the massive changes that SOE made to that game.
HAHAHAHAH SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QFA (Quoted for awesomeness)
Thank you for owning so I don't have to.
I wont argue that, the lagg does need fixing. But I doubt you left becuase of the lagg, you left becuase you'd played all the content and wanted to play something else for a change, after a year?
Compare to SWG, or EQ2... Im just not seeing any correlation.
Anarchyart, grow up.
You tell people to grow up but so far in this thread all you've accomplished is showing your a SOE hater. That's all, nothing substancial, no facts. So do us a favor, quit mumbling along spitting out worthless garbage. Your posts are meaningless at best..
There is no proof or evidence that I know of that would prove or show that SOE is going to have any sort of influence in the development of Vanguard if there is I would really appreciate seeing a link saying that will be the case by either SOE or Sigil, thanks. Bring it on down now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Once again here we go.. You don't like it fine but don't state your opinion as fact.. I play EQ2 and WOW. I love um both. Every expansion tha has come out for EQ2 I've enjoyed. That goes for the expansions for EQL.
Is it that you don't enjoy them or oh wait lemme guess.. You've never even tried them.. Yet you know so much as to assume they are "shoddy"
Take your own advice and grow up.
QFA (Quoted for awesomeness)
Thank you for owning so I don't have to.
I wont argue that, the lagg does need fixing. But I doubt you left becuase of the lagg, you left becuase you'd played all the content and wanted to play something else for a change, after a year?
Compare to SWG, or EQ2... Im just not seeing any correlation.
Anarchyart, grow up.
You tell people to grow up but so far in this thread all you've accomplished is showing your a SOE hater. That's all, nothing substancial, no facts. So do us a favor, quit mumbling along spitting out worthless garbage. Your posts are meaningless at best..
Theres tons of facts, many incidents over the last few years where SoE has screwed up. One needs but look.
Btw, for you, ive decided to put the truth in my sig.
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Is it that you don't enjoy them or oh wait lemme guess.. You've never even tried them.. Yet you know so much as to assume they are "shoddy"
Take your own advice and grow up.
Played EQ for 3 years, imo, the expansion packs are pretty shoddy.
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EQ 2 is a great game, I found it better then WOW, I find it still a lot of fun, the expansions for it are pretty good, EQ was a great game too and the expansions were as good if not better then anything that was being released in any other MMO at the time. Bring it on down now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
Anyone who played SWG Pre NGE will be in tears of laughter reading this statement.
I seriously hope that their infamous customer services dept is not allowed any involvement in this product.
Proud Master CH -
Sorry,
Proud FORMER Master CH...
my toon was untimely converted into something more Star Warsy