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wich mmorpg has the best crafting?
carpediem
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Title says it all. Im a crafter by heart and need a game with a good balance between adventure and crafting. Any advice on the games out there with a good crafting system?
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Saga of Ryzom
A tale in the desert.
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EQ2 at start had cool crafting system. A bit complex tho with all those strange reactions in middle of the crafting process. But im a solo player mostly and EQ2 has group orientation.
Wont try SWG, hate sci-fi games. Has to be a fantasy 1:)
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World of Warcraft is fun crafting and the quests are decent.
Actually when I think about, Ultima Online has all kinds of crafting. Carpentry, Tailoring, Blacksmithing, Tinkering and Alchemy.
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Ultima Online features an extensive crafting system that allows skilled players to create the majority of items found in the game, ranging from useful items such as weapons and armor to the more mundane items such as furniture and decorative clothing. It is possible for player-crafted items to be of a higher quality than the items that the NPC shopkeepers might sell, especially if made by a Grand Master or higher in the appropriate skill.
The best crafting games that I know of are:
1. SWG
2. SoR
3. A Tale in The Desert
4. UO
5. Second Life (crafting isn't crafting in the normal sense here)
I also heard that crafting is quite good in EQII. The best manufacturing game (and the only one I know of) is EVE Online.
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I liked EQ2s crafting system except for two things:
One, the point above.
Two (most importantly), most of the things you could make weren't worth a damn to adventurers, at least as far as weapons and armour were concerned.
The latter seems to be the case in most games, for whatever reason. I'm of the opinion the better items in the game should be player-crafted, but apparently I'm in the minority.
My big problem is that i also like some adventuring. Cant stay crafting endlessly. Gotta kill some mobs, do some quest, dungeon crawling, etc. SoR i tried and didnt like, WoW after 5 lvl 60s = NO WAY! SWG is sci-fi, forget it.
UO could do the trick. Why not? i still remember the gr8 experience that was playing Asheron Call
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scifi you don't care for (swg really was good, sigh).
SoR you don't care for either.
So I can only recommend UO. I personally love it. Very soloable, if that is what you want.
A Tale in the desert is nothing for soloists though.
Not sure about Asheron's Call or DAoC.
Lineage 2 crafting is a joke, relies solely on grinding and horrendeous prices due to bots & farmers. And I think only dwarves can craft. Altough here, you actually can make stuff that people need and that is not lootable.
And finally WoW: sorry, that crafting system is a joke, boring, unispiring, useless, except for alchemy & enchanting - and only if you are in a high level raiding guild.
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Other than that i guess UO since u dont like Ryzom either
I hate crafting....so all this talk of it makes me think you people are aliens....
That said... one thing I remember enjoying about DAOC was you could actually use the armor that you crafted, and it was considerably better than what dropped in the world (until TOA came out) which made crafting at least worth doing. I feel that WOW's crafting is mostly useless....
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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Horizens...their crafting is pretty great and they have a great community last time I checked. Worth investigating if you're interested.
disclaimer: this game has been dying slowly for a long long time. Havn't checked up on it in awhile so if its dead, its not my fault. It is someone elses fault
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Yeah, right after I posted that I investigated a bit and I see. Its too bad, it had some really good potential I think, and playing as a dragon was awesome.
Star Wars Galaxies, no question about it. A system where raw material quality doesn't affect the attributes of the final product can't even be considered crafting, IMO; that already eliminates pretty much everything else besides SWG and Ryzom. Crafting in SWG was more like exploration anyway since automated harvesters and factories did all the grinding for you... crafters were left with only the interesting stuff, such as locating new raw material zones, experimenting for higher quality blueprints, trading for high quality materials with other players and running their own businesses.
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Anyone who hasn't played crafter in SWG just doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.
Age of Conan is looking to have a damn good crafting system when it comes out. But untill it does, that particular statement is up for grabs so to speak.
I hate to say it Obraik, but have you actually seen the free trial? I'm not sure if it has always been that way, but the trial sticks you onboard a space station, and the ONLY game features you see is the combat, and none of the crafting.
I think SOE is afraid if they let people see the real game, much fewer people would sign up.
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I have never played wow, but honestly FFXI crafting was my favorite. It was extremely simple but you could craft so so so many things and the game wouldn't tell you the recipees, so as you became experienced you, the player, would actually become wiser and stuff.
I kind of like how ffxi would never tell you how stuff works, and how it was always left for the players to figure out. What days are good to craft on, what combinations of materials do what, where the best prices are...I kind of miss that economy.
Anyway the way it physically worked was there were synthesis crystals that you would use with materials and it would create the product. There were fire crystals, wind, water, earth, light, dark, etc. and so on.
I liked FFXI,,,a few things like the above poster mentioned about not knowing squat and learning on your own was kinda crazy but all in all not so bad. Not my top one.
I LOVED EQ2's crafting. (I liked making the furniture the best) I did not mind the "whack-a-mole" style as it at least kept you interested and alert. The graphics during it helps too. The leveling is easy and not *too* expensive. Merchant systems altho not too long ago got an update still needs major work. (And btw - I soloed to 48 then got bored of the game itself lol but soloing CAN be done, its just long and tedious)
DAOC is a great game, EXCEPT for the crafting. Absolutely totally boring and completely mind and azz numbing. Cant really say that any of it will actually make you any money (TOA ruined all that) compared to the amount of time and coin you put into it. You would think with the rest of the game, a junior high school project -type crafting system wouldnt be in it but woe to all, it is
Dont really have much to say about any others. Most I have tried but really left no impression or a bad taste as well as the game itself so I wont go into those.
Well as far as resources x + y = item z yea i think all mmos iv ever played are similar there but the different between WoW and ffxi is FFXI is, for lack of a better word, deeper. You have to take into account the time of day/ day of the week ect when crafting to yield best results as well as having many many many more craftable items and a larger resource pool. Hell you can grow plants in your house which is a crafting skill, then catch fish which is another, and use those resources to make another resource which you can then sell, or go on from there to make another item, which can be used to make a more advanced item when combined with other items.
An Example, (fictional, as if the WoW crafting was the same as ffxi crafting) would be from my experience in wow as a leather worker.. You farm devilsaur leather, make devilsaur boots. Then take those boots and combine them with say, rogue t2 boots to create a new item, which can be combined with another item to make an even better one.
In FFXI there were rare item drops such as leaping lizzard boots that you could then combine with other items to create a new better item. AS well as taking item such as all the elemental staffs to create better versions of the staff. And if i remember correctly all items crafted had a % chance to be crafted as a +1 or +2 version of themselves which i think was determined by the day of the week depending on what item you were making.
But as i said.. its was very expensive to get into the market when i played as japan had released the game almost a full year before it was released in the USA so japanese players had a firm hold on the high end crafting economy, making entry very hard.. but if you got into the market you could make more money than you could spend.