Originally posted by Mcgreag One more thing to take into account is that people posting on forums, especially external forums like this are generally more hardcore than the avg population and therefor more likely to have multiple accounts.
Not even going to take that into account as it's impossible to gather empyrical data on. However it is an interesting point and worth considering. However given that this post is linked to from the EVE-O forums at least some of the 'regular' player base will be coming here to vote beyond just our normal MMORPG community.
If CCP would ever add a real polling feature to the forums on the official site I'd run these types of polls there to get a much larger (read accurate) sampling of the playerbase. I don't like doing 'poll threads' because it's too easy to make tabulation errors when sifting through multi-page threads.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
Why would posting make it more valid then a poll? Yeah anyone could vote on a poll whether they play or not, but people could also post saying their number.
Originally posted by LeJohn I had 4 off and on since 2003 until october when I deactivated 1 and reactivated my WOW account so i had 3 last month. I run 2 mining barges/hauler and 1 hauler/ mission runner. But I cancled 2 accounts this month out of protest, in the why your quitting exit pole "Invention is not an adiquate replacement for reverse enginnering" but will reactivate 1 in a few months, EVE is set up to require you to have more than one account. Which leaves me with my main account. In my corp I am the only player that will only have 1 account, though its a small corp 28 players these people are from my old Starsiege clan and have played with these guys for over 12 years. Most of the corp has 2 but some have 6. The funny part is that a few of the guys have been accused of macroing because they will be fielding 4 barges and 2 haulers, but like me (I have a 4 system lan) are simply running 2 windowed EVE clients per systems. Multy screen systems 4tW. Oh and your pole is off: Num of players Name Accounts 1 Taram 1 1 SnaKey 2 1 Mindspat 1 1 Mutiny 4 1 LordSlater 2 1 Final57 2 1 Monde 2 1 PegasusJF 2 1 Mcgreag 3 1 Ralsar 1 1 Minsc 2 1 Lejohn 4 Totals 12 26 Average Accounts 2.166667
DUDE You are taking a subset of the total poll. 34 people have responded to the poll. Not just the 12 who posted. Look at the poll results then multiply the total responders by the percentage of votes in each category, then multiply the number of responses you get for each line by the number of accounts in that category....
Thus 34 players accounts for: 61.836 accounts To get average accounts: 61.836 / 34 = 1.8187 accounts per user, or, as I stated in another thread: Less than 2 accounts per user.
but I understand you'll try anything to prove yourself right. Like I said... if you want to use DATA to prove your point use FACTUAL data not subsets of the data.
ummmmmmmm...
someone just got SERVED!
I'm not really trying to flame him. I just want this to be as accurate as it possibly can be and people throwing completely false data into the thread doesn't help that in the slightest. I ask again that people just be honest. Vote only once and vote accurately. If you pay for 2 accounts but one is for your wife then you only have ONE account (your wife has the other). Have her log in and vote for 1 account as well if you want to account for both accounts (there's a tongue twister!) If you have 2 accounts and both are YOUR accounts then by all means, vote that you have 2. And if you have 6 then say you have 6.
If it turns out that people really average 4 or 8 or even 200 accounts per user that's fine as long as we keep the data sampling as accurate as possible. I like stats... stats are good... as long as the data is pure.
ie: Someone on this thread has currently only got 1 account (self admitted) but voted that he had 4 (self admitted) thus deliberately skewing the data. I'm tempted to remove the 4 count from my sample data when I do the final compilation and just not count that vote at all. But I won't. In the interests of not deliberately skewing my own data.
But you are trying to skew your own data, for the purpose of sending more $20 checks to Iceland. If someone purchased more than one $20 account activation fee, they should be counted as having more than one account activated. After all, they do not have to pay the extra five dollars ever again.
Also, EVEangelists aren't going to say the truth. They are going to say what is in EVE's interest, whether its true, or not, because they love CCP so much, they are willing to engage in spin for them. Therefore, I do not think hardcore EVEangelists will say they have more than one, even if they have two, or four; because they know that the poll is going to be seen by everyone here, and they do not want to give the impression that the game is expensive. They are going to say they have one, even if they have two, or three, or four, because they want to make the game seem like one account is all you need.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Originally posted by Beatnik59 But you are trying to skew your own data, for the purpose of sending more $20 checks to Iceland. If someone purchased more than one $20 account activation fee, they should be counted as having more than one account activated. After all, they do not have to pay the extra five dollars ever again. Also, EVEangelists aren't going to say the truth. They are going to say what is in EVE's interest, whether its true, or not, because they love CCP so much, they are willing to engage in spin for them. Therefore, I do not think hardcore EVEangelists will say they have more than one, even if they have two, or four; because they know that the poll is going to be seen by everyone here, and they do not want to give the impression that the game is expensive. They are going to say they have one, even if they have two, or three, or four, because they want to make the game seem like one account is all you need.
And the tin-foil hat sellers like beatnik here will continue to make unfounded accusations in every post they make...
"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
And the tin-foil hat sellers like beatnik here will continue to make unfounded accusations in every post they make...
I have plenty of foundation of how CCP and fans of EVE actively monitor the fansites, and manufactures the sort of opinion on them that is favorable to their interests.
Tin foil is cheap, and if tin foil can prevent someone from shelling out $20 that they aren't going to give back, then I say, tin foil is good.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Originally posted by Beatnik59 But you are trying to skew your own data, for the purpose of sending more $20 checks to Iceland. If someone purchased more than one $20 account activation fee, they should be counted as having more than one account activated. After all, they do not have to pay the extra five dollars ever again. Also, EVEangelists aren't going to say the truth. They are going to say what is in EVE's interest, whether its true, or not, because they love CCP so much, they are willing to engage in spin for them. Therefore, I do not think hardcore EVEangelists will say they have more than one, even if they have two, or four; because they know that the poll is going to be seen by everyone here, and they do not want to give the impression that the game is expensive. They are going to say they have one, even if they have two, or three, or four, because they want to make the game seem like one account is all you need.
Please show me where I have skewed my own numbers? Please? You can't because I haven't. This is strictly a poll to determin how many accounts current subscribers have, on average. Not who bought it and didn't pay the monthly fee thereafter. Go troll somewhere else Beatnik.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
Please show me where I have skewed my own numbers? Please? You can't because I haven't. This is strictly a poll to determin how many accounts current subscribers have, on average. Not who bought it and didn't pay the monthly fee thereafter. Go troll somewhere else Beatnik.
I have three accounts. Anyone with one account active this month is a current subscriber. Therefore, how many accounts do I have? The ones active? The ones that can potentially become active? Or the ones that are active, but never played this month, because of 45 day skill training?
You want people who have bought and paid for their accounts to not include them, based on some arbitrary preference that makes multiboxing less prevalent than it may be in truth.
PS: For all I know, you got 40 of your buddies from EVE to come here, select "1," and prove your "theory" correct.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Originally posted by Beatnik59 But you are trying to skew your own data, for the purpose of sending more $20 checks to Iceland. If someone purchased more than one $20 account activation fee, they should be counted as having more than one account activated. After all, they do not have to pay the extra five dollars ever again. Also, EVEangelists aren't going to say the truth. They are going to say what is in EVE's interest, whether its true, or not, because they love CCP so much, they are willing to engage in spin for them. Therefore, I do not think hardcore EVEangelists will say they have more than one, even if they have two, or four; because they know that the poll is going to be seen by everyone here, and they do not want to give the impression that the game is expensive. They are going to say they have one, even if they have two, or three, or four, because they want to make the game seem like one account is all you need.
Well, I suppose I'm leaning towards the "EVEangelist" crowd, but here I admit I have two accounts (the second one was ordered at least a year after my first).
People are right in saying that this poll is not completely accurate. That kind of goes without saying. Since there is no way to ensure accurate data gathering.
But the simple fact is, the only way that we could be absolutely irrefutable proof (though I wonder why all the naysayers are so hesitant to give CCP the benefit of the doubt) is have a neutral entity go over the subscription data and release their results.
But honestly. it's not really that important. I made my best money with the efforts of my main without any alt help. All that matters is that people try the game and if they like it, it's all good, if not, that's fine too.
I have 78,000 Accounts, my roomate Tiny Dave has 72,000 Accounts.
I play ASCN/AXE/Empire carebears/LV, he plays BoB/D2/Ragoon/Empire pirates, and we swap the smaller alliances.
Clearly due to this incontrovertible proof, there are only 2 people playing EVE at any one time. Therefore the peak unique user count is below that of a good game of Uno.
Originally posted by RollinDutch I have 78,000 Accounts, my roomate Tiny Dave has 72,000 Accounts.I play ASCN/AXE/Empire carebears/LV, he plays BoB/D2/Ragoon/Empire pirates, and we swap the smaller alliances.Clearly due to this incontrovertible proof, there are only 2 people playing EVE at any one time. Therefore the peak unique user count is below that of a good game of Uno.
Uuuuunnnnnhhhhh....I must follow the will of Rollinducth....oh wait, or is it Tiny Dave?
Please show me where I have skewed my own numbers? Please? You can't because I haven't. This is strictly a poll to determin how many accounts current subscribers have, on average. Not who bought it and didn't pay the monthly fee thereafter. Go troll somewhere else Beatnik.
I have three accounts. Anyone with one account active this month is a current subscriber. Therefore, how many accounts do I have? The ones active? The ones that can potentially become active? Or the ones that are active, but never played this month, because of 45 day skill training?
You want people who have bought and paid for their accounts to not include them, based on some arbitrary preference that makes multiboxing less prevalent than it may be in truth.
PS: For all I know, you got 40 of your buddies from EVE to come here, select "1," and prove your "theory" correct.
No, I want people to report ONLY the accounts they are paying SUBSCRIPTIONS on. If they just bought the game then it's an active subscription until it expires.
PS: Frankly I could care less what you think. You've proven time and time again that you're nothing but a forum troll
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I have three accounts. Anyone with one account active this month is a current subscriber. Therefore, how many accounts do I have? The ones active? The ones that can potentially become active? Or the ones that are active, but never played this month, because of 45 day skill training?
You want people who have bought and paid for their accounts to not include them, based on some arbitrary preference that makes multiboxing less prevalent than it may be in truth.
PS: For all I know, you got 40 of your buddies from EVE to come here, select "1," and prove your "theory" correct.
Then you should count 3, Since you have just put the accounts to inactive training. Now If you have accounts that you are not paying for that are NOT being still used to train something for later reactivation of the account then Don't count them. thats the easiest way of dealing with those situations. Even if you have a account that is for one reason and you only activate them for specific uses "freighter alts" being one that comes to mind, then I would say count them.
If you paid the $15/month this month for the subscription count it, if you didn't pay, don't. It's pretty simple really, I don't know where all the confusion is coming from.
One thing to keep in mind is that on LVL5 training you can set it (I have several at 48 days +) then cancel the account and reactivate a couple of months later. Again one of the great things about EVE.
OK, I split the data into EVE0 and MMORPG so we can get an average in a few days.
What is really intresting is the diffrence between the two. Oh, I guess I don't use math in my field (Converting companies to electronic media specalizing in paper to CADD)
Originally posted by LeJohn One thing to keep in mind is that on LVL5 training you can set it (I have several at 48 days +) then cancel the account and reactivate a couple of months later. Again one of the great things about EVE. OK, I split the data into EVE0 and MMORPG so we can get an average in a few days. What is really intresting is the diffrence between the two. Oh, I guess I don't use math in my field (Converting companies to electronic media specalizing in paper to CADD) Eve-Online PoleMMORG PoleplayerNameAccountsAccts# of pplAverage1Kerushi 4133.98447.20%1Kate Nexus 1220.01627.80%1Akula UrQuan 13912.50%1Brutor Shaun 144.9686.90%1Victor Valka 151.0081.40%1Katja Frostbain 56001Lucifer Fellblade 171.0081.40%1Rutoo 382.0162.80%1Aakron 29001Shakuul 110001Nicocat 11Fluxuated 2727211Atius 41Vito Negroski 81Gariuys21Falcione11Galk31Dark Shikari1Totals 1742Average Accounts2.470588
Not hard to believe the difference at all. The much smaller sample size from the EVE-O forums means that 1 large datapoint can much more easily skew the results higher. That's all. Which is why you want to take the two and find the median. The MMORPG forum poll will have a smaller margin of error due to the higher number of samples taken. That said neither poll is a '100% true fact' but it does give a good idea where reality is rather than the WAG method (Wild Ass Guess)
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I have 3 accounts. 2 are miners and haulers at the same time my main chracter has 56Msp my second 31Msp and last charater 10Msp which i going too use too understand the basics of fichting.
I don't have exact numbers, but less than 20% of the EVE community have 2 or more subscriptions. The other 80+% are single account users.
This is far from the number in this thread which state that less than 50% have 1 account.
So how many unique eve players does that give us? Well we can't say for sure as we don't know how many accounts the avg multi account holder has.
If we use the numbers posted here (which we of course already know are not accurate but it's the best we have) we get somewhere between 3 and 3.66 accounts per avg multi account holder. This does sound like a realistic number to me, most multi account holders probably have 2 accounts while some have much more driving the avg up a bit.
If we assume an avg of 4 accounts per multi account holder and take the latest subscription numbers of 154k (also in that thread) we get get 1.6 accounts per player and 97.5k unique players. With 3 accounts per multiuser we get 1.4 accounts avg and 111.4k unique.
This would mean that the number of unique eve players atm are somewhere slightly above 100,000
If you found something wrong in my math or think my assumptions are wrong then feel free to correct it.
"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
I just got a second account this past weekend. I have only played actively for a couple of months, but I wanted to try mining without having to divert my first character. Gotta admit, I am enjoying mining already more than I thought I would.
BTW, EVE is the first game for which I have even considered a second account, but I'm glad I did it this time.
How many SUBSCRIBED accounts do you maintain in EVE? Do not include any trial accounts. The point of this is to determine what the true 'average number of subscriptions' per player is. I have heard wild theories that it's 6 before and slightly less unreasonable theories that it's 3. I suspect it's more close to the MMO "norm" of somewhere just south of 2 per user but I'd like to run this poll to be sure.
(Note: above was reworded to be a bit less confrontational)
Please be honest! Thanks!
Will continue to update as more results come in.
12/19/06 @ 11:35 Eastern 30 Respondants. Average accounts per player: 1.834
12/19/06 @ 13:30 Eastern 34 Respondants. Average accounts per player: 1.819
12/19/06 @ 14:30 Eastern 38 Respondants. Average accounts per player: 1.758
12/19/06 @ 17:30 Eastern 57 Respondants. Average accounts per player: 2.145
12/19/06 @ 21:00 Eastern 59 Respondants. Average accounts per player: 2.173
12/20/06 @ 08:40 Eastern 67 Respondants. Average accounts per player: 2.093
12/20/06 @ 12:00 Eastern 70 Respondants. Average accounts per player: 2.071
12/20/06 @ 13:30 Eastern 75 Respondants. Average accounts per player: 2.027
12/21/06 @ 19:30 Eastern 82 Respondants, Average accounts per player: 2.018
12/26/06 @ 05:15 Eastern 86 Respondants, Average accounts per player: 2.028
12/26 update: At this point the poll has run for a week with 86 people responding. I'm going to call it done and conclude that, based on our results, it's fairly safe to say that most EVE players do have more than 1 account with the average number of accounts being right around 2 accounts per player. Slightly higher than I actually thought it was and lower than others did. Interestingly, as in all things in life, the truth was somewhere in the middle.
Thanks to everyone who participated. Hopefully everyone was honest and we got a decent representation out of it. CCP is evidently curious themselves as they recently sponsored a survey (I got one in email the other day) in which, among many other topics, this was one of the questions. I am hopeful that they'll announce the official results though I suspect they'll use it for mostly internal tabulation purposes.
Merry Christmas, or whichever holiday it is you are celebrating!
i have 50 eve accounts that are all active most of wich have chars with 15+mill sp atm
Originally posted by Mcgreag I know I am necroing an old thread but some new info that is useful to this thread was posted by Kieron a few days ago.Multi account answerI don't have exact numbers, but less than 20% of the EVE community have 2 or more subscriptions. The other 80+% are single account users.
This is far from the number in this thread which state that less than 50% have 1 account.
So how many unique eve players does that give us? Well we can't say for sure as we don't know how many accounts the avg multi account holder has.
If we use the numbers posted here (which we of course already know are not accurate but it's the best we have) we get somewhere between 3 and 3.66 accounts per avg multi account holder. This does sound like a realistic number to me, most multi account holders probably have 2 accounts while some have much more driving the avg up a bit.
If we assume an avg of 4 accounts per multi account holder and take the latest subscription numbers of 154k (also in that thread) we get get 1.6 accounts per player and 97.5k unique players. With 3 accounts per multiuser we get 1.4 accounts avg and 111.4k unique.
This would mean that the number of unique eve players atm are somewhere slightly above 100,000
If you found something wrong in my math or think my assumptions are wrong then feel free to correct it.
I not sure what numbers mr K is looking at or how ccp is counting the accounts but most people run 1 account however most of my "friends who been playing from beta do have more then one account more like 5 accounts and more
Most Multiple account users are miners/builders. Because I put up two highsec POS I had to reinstate one of my accounts I had canceled (ok i canceled it as a protest to not gettin RE in Kali), EVE is the only game where you are almost required to have a second account because of the grind of playing at a high lvl. The second account now maintains and fuels the POSs as well as hauls during mining ops
Most players that concentrate on fighting seem to have only 1 account and use temps for scouting. Since they will no longer be able to run temp accounts (on same system) it will intresting to see how many will go without the intel or break down and buy a scout account
I have three accounts. Like other multiaccount players, 2 of them using for mining, third for missions/fighting etc. Very often play on 3 accounts the same time in windows mode. Its kinda fun.
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Not even going to take that into account as it's impossible to gather empyrical data on. However it is an interesting point and worth considering. However given that this post is linked to from the EVE-O forums at least some of the 'regular' player base will be coming here to vote beyond just our normal MMORPG community.
If CCP would ever add a real polling feature to the forums on the official site I'd run these types of polls there to get a much larger (read accurate) sampling of the playerbase. I don't like doing 'poll threads' because it's too easy to make tabulation errors when sifting through multi-page threads.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I have one account.
DUDE
You are taking a subset of the total poll. 34 people have responded to the poll. Not just the 12 who posted. Look at the poll results then multiply the total responders by the percentage of votes in each category, then multiply the number of responses you get for each line by the number of accounts in that category....
IE:
CURRENTLY: 34 votes cast
1 account: 52.9% = (34 * .529) * 1 = 17.986 Accounts
2 accounts: 29.4% = (34 * .294) * 2 = 19.982 Accounts
3 accounts: 11.8% = (34 * .118) * 3 = 12.036 Accounts
4 accounts: 2.9% = (34 * .029) * 4 = 3.944 Accounts
8 accounts: 2.9% = (34 * .029) * 8 = 7.888 Accounts
Thus 34 players accounts for: 61.836 accounts
To get average accounts:
61.836 / 34 = 1.8187 accounts per user, or, as I stated in another thread: Less than 2 accounts per user.
but I understand you'll try anything to prove yourself right. Like I said... if you want to use DATA to prove your point use FACTUAL data not subsets of the data.
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someone just got SERVED!
I'm not really trying to flame him. I just want this to be as accurate as it possibly can be and people throwing completely false data into the thread doesn't help that in the slightest. I ask again that people just be honest. Vote only once and vote accurately. If you pay for 2 accounts but one is for your wife then you only have ONE account (your wife has the other). Have her log in and vote for 1 account as well if you want to account for both accounts (there's a tongue twister!) If you have 2 accounts and both are YOUR accounts then by all means, vote that you have 2. And if you have 6 then say you have 6.
If it turns out that people really average 4 or 8 or even 200 accounts per user that's fine as long as we keep the data sampling as accurate as possible. I like stats... stats are good... as long as the data is pure.
ie: Someone on this thread has currently only got 1 account (self admitted) but voted that he had 4 (self admitted) thus deliberately skewing the data. I'm tempted to remove the 4 count from my sample data when I do the final compilation and just not count that vote at all. But I won't. In the interests of not deliberately skewing my own data.
But you are trying to skew your own data, for the purpose of sending more $20 checks to Iceland. If someone purchased more than one $20 account activation fee, they should be counted as having more than one account activated. After all, they do not have to pay the extra five dollars ever again.
Also, EVEangelists aren't going to say the truth. They are going to say what is in EVE's interest, whether its true, or not, because they love CCP so much, they are willing to engage in spin for them. Therefore, I do not think hardcore EVEangelists will say they have more than one, even if they have two, or four; because they know that the poll is going to be seen by everyone here, and they do not want to give the impression that the game is expensive. They are going to say they have one, even if they have two, or three, or four, because they want to make the game seem like one account is all you need.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
I have plenty of foundation of how CCP and fans of EVE actively monitor the fansites, and manufactures the sort of opinion on them that is favorable to their interests.
Tin foil is cheap, and if tin foil can prevent someone from shelling out $20 that they aren't going to give back, then I say, tin foil is good.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I have three accounts. Anyone with one account active this month is a current subscriber. Therefore, how many accounts do I have? The ones active? The ones that can potentially become active? Or the ones that are active, but never played this month, because of 45 day skill training?
You want people who have bought and paid for their accounts to not include them, based on some arbitrary preference that makes multiboxing less prevalent than it may be in truth.
PS: For all I know, you got 40 of your buddies from EVE to come here, select "1," and prove your "theory" correct.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Well, I suppose I'm leaning towards the "EVEangelist" crowd, but here I admit I have two accounts (the second one was ordered at least a year after my first).
People are right in saying that this poll is not completely accurate. That kind of goes without saying. Since there is no way to ensure accurate data gathering.
But the simple fact is, the only way that we could be absolutely irrefutable proof (though I wonder why all the naysayers are so hesitant to give CCP the benefit of the doubt) is have a neutral entity go over the subscription data and release their results.
But honestly. it's not really that important. I made my best money with the efforts of my main without any alt help. All that matters is that people try the game and if they like it, it's all good, if not, that's fine too.
God Bless
I play ASCN/AXE/Empire carebears/LV, he plays BoB/D2/Ragoon/Empire pirates, and we swap the smaller alliances.
Clearly due to this incontrovertible proof, there are only 2 people playing EVE at any one time. Therefore the peak unique user count is below that of a good game of Uno.
Uuuuunnnnnhhhhh....I must follow the will of Rollinducth....oh wait, or is it Tiny Dave?
I have one account. I have never wanted more than that. I can do all I want with one.
** If I ever see a post here that some one does not try to highjack to put EVE down I think I would have a stroke.
Support Bacteria, its the only culture some people have.
PS: Frankly I could care less what you think. You've proven time and time again that you're nothing but a forum troll
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
One thing to keep in mind is that on LVL5 training you can set it (I have several at 48 days +) then cancel the account and reactivate a couple of months later. Again one of the great things about EVE.
OK, I split the data into EVE0 and MMORPG so we can get an average in a few days.
What is really intresting is the diffrence between the two. Oh, I guess I don't use math in my field (Converting companies to electronic media specalizing in paper to CADD)
An so it begins
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Not hard to believe the difference at all. The much smaller sample size from the EVE-O forums means that 1 large datapoint can much more easily skew the results higher. That's all. Which is why you want to take the two and find the median. The MMORPG forum poll will have a smaller margin of error due to the higher number of samples taken. That said neither poll is a '100% true fact' but it does give a good idea where reality is rather than the WAG method (Wild Ass Guess)
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I have 3 accounts. 2 are miners and haulers at the same time my main chracter has 56Msp my second 31Msp and last charater 10Msp which i going too use too understand the basics of fichting.
AK
I know I am necroing an old thread but some new info that is useful to this thread was posted by Kieron a few days ago.
Multi account answer
This is far from the number in this thread which state that less than 50% have 1 account.So how many unique eve players does that give us? Well we can't say for sure as we don't know how many accounts the avg multi account holder has.
If we use the numbers posted here (which we of course already know are not accurate but it's the best we have) we get somewhere between 3 and 3.66 accounts per avg multi account holder. This does sound like a realistic number to me, most multi account holders probably have 2 accounts while some have much more driving the avg up a bit.
If we assume an avg of 4 accounts per multi account holder and take the latest subscription numbers of 154k (also in that thread) we get get 1.6 accounts per player and 97.5k unique players. With 3 accounts per multiuser we get 1.4 accounts avg and 111.4k unique.
This would mean that the number of unique eve players atm are somewhere slightly above 100,000
If you found something wrong in my math or think my assumptions are wrong then feel free to correct it.
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BTW, EVE is the first game for which I have even considered a second account, but I'm glad I did it this time.
Give or take around 30 accounts.
I play eve while I work..
Guides & Trials for EvE Online:
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So how many unique eve players does that give us? Well we can't say for sure as we don't know how many accounts the avg multi account holder has.
If we use the numbers posted here (which we of course already know are not accurate but it's the best we have) we get somewhere between 3 and 3.66 accounts per avg multi account holder. This does sound like a realistic number to me, most multi account holders probably have 2 accounts while some have much more driving the avg up a bit.
If we assume an avg of 4 accounts per multi account holder and take the latest subscription numbers of 154k (also in that thread) we get get 1.6 accounts per player and 97.5k unique players. With 3 accounts per multiuser we get 1.4 accounts avg and 111.4k unique.
This would mean that the number of unique eve players atm are somewhere slightly above 100,000
If you found something wrong in my math or think my assumptions are wrong then feel free to correct it.
I not sure what numbers mr K is looking at or how ccp is counting the accounts but most people run 1 account however most of my "friends who been playing from beta do have more then one account more like 5 accounts and more
Guides & Trials for EvE Online:
One intresting point ok Points.
Of Those polled:
Most Multiple account users are miners/builders. Because I put up two highsec POS I had to reinstate one of my accounts I had canceled (ok i canceled it as a protest to not gettin RE in Kali), EVE is the only game where you are almost required to have a second account because of the grind of playing at a high lvl. The second account now maintains and fuels the POSs as well as hauls during mining ops
Most players that concentrate on fighting seem to have only 1 account and use temps for scouting. Since they will no longer be able to run temp accounts (on same system) it will intresting to see how many will go without the intel or break down and buy a scout account
An so it begins
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