Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by kylecameron1 One more thing why spend so much money on WoW when there are plenty of great free games out there that are great. And the reason Im asking you and not putting an opinion of what I thought of the game, is because I havent played it, so nobody can insult my opinion seeing as I didnt really give one other than dont obsess over World of Warcraft.
Go play any quality pay to play MMORPG ( WoW or any other) and then come back here saying those free games are great.
I played COH and COV I still think Gw's is better. Ive allso messed around on WoW and DAOC.
Originally posted by kylecameron1 Why is everyone so obsessed with WoW. It doesnt make sense, what the difference between WoW and another3d mmorpg, and give me 3 good answers to that other than quests, monsters, classes, and races because thoseare different in virtually every mmorpg, except for the fact that some 3d mmorpgs other than WoW that are free vary from the normal and give you different races, 3 good reasons WoW is better than any other mmorpg.
Here are some interesting characteristic of WoW devotees: 1. Prone to online game addicition 2. Less tatical/stratgical adopt 3. Less creative 4. Good at repetitive tasks.
OP here are 3 reasons why WoW is better then other MMORPGs:
1. "noob friendly": assuming you actually went through the newbie zone and read the quest infos and in game hints, you'll have gained a general understanding of what your class is capable of.
2. huge world: WoW is huge, it would take days (as in real world 24 hour days) to explore all the avaiable ground, even the small zones will take you 2-3 hours to explore in full, and while there you have beautifully renderd terrain to watch.
3. big content patches: there's a huge scale event in about every patch of WoW, new dungeons, new encounters, you never run out of content you can do.
and as a side note, to the people crying "you get to 60 and quit" you are, without a doubt, either misinformed, or never understood that WoW is actually 2 games, the leveling game of 1-60, and endgame at level 60 (in which you go to gain reputation with the various factions, run instances, pvp, aquire better gear or just hang around with a few friends in winterspring waiting for a hapless horde to wonder by so you can pounce him )
a second side note to the people claimnig each class is similar to the other, i've played them all, most to 60, and there is not a single class that is similar to the other, except in the most general terms (and even then, the way of preforming the various tasks are very different)
Originally posted by zollen Originally posted by kylecameron1 Why is everyone so obsessed with WoW. It doesnt make sense, what the difference between WoW and another3d mmorpg, and give me 3 good answers to that other than quests, monsters, classes, and races because thoseare different in virtually every mmorpg, except for the fact that some 3d mmorpgs other than WoW that are free vary from the normal and give you different races, 3 good reasons WoW is better than any other mmorpg.
Here are some interesting characteristic of WoW devotees: 1. Prone to online game addicition 2. Less tatical/stratgical adopt 3. Less creative 4. Good at repetitive tasks.
1. yes, i like to play WoW, i average at 16hrs/week play time, does that make me an addict? i think not.
2. i never noticed that, have any evidance beyond your own opinion to back up that claim? (all you have to do is go and take a look at some of the pve boss encounters (before tons of vidoes are released making the content trivial to master), or an orgenized pvp group, to see how far from the truth this claim is)
3. look at 2, then look again.
4. that is the essence of an MMO, you have time sinks built in, and having played quite a few MMOs (AC, AO, EQ, EVE just to name a few) WoW time sinks are much less obvious, and a hell of a lot more fun then any of the other games i've played (hackler grind anyone? )
Plasuma, it almost looks like you made yourself hate the game, because whenever I played it I didn't think that grinding for my mount was horridly boring and repetitive, I thought of it as a goal. You might even have to do the same thing in RL, such as working on a project that requires you to do the same thing over and over until it's perfect. Besides, the point of the mount was to make you move faster, if you didn't want it then you didn't have to buy it..
Originally posted by randprin Originally posted by zollen
Here are some interesting characteristic of WoW devotees: 1. Prone to online game addicition 2. Less tatical/stratgical adopt 3. Less creative 4. Good at repetitive tasks.
1. yes, i like to play WoW, i average at 16hrs/week play time, does that make me an addict? i think not.
2. i never noticed that, have any evidance beyond your own opinion to back up that claim? (all you have to do is go and take a look at some of the pve boss encounters (before tons of vidoes are released making the content trivial to master), or an orgenized pvp group, to see how far from the truth this claim is)
3. look at 2, then look again.
4. that is the essence of an MMO, you have time sinks built in, and having played quite a few MMOs (AC, AO, EQ, EVE just to name a few) WoW time sinks are much less obvious, and a hell of a lot more fun then any of the other games i've played (hackler grind anyone? )
1. Most addicits do not admit they are addicits too. Whether you are an addicit or not, I can't answer that for you. 2. I think fighting against another player(s) would require more tatical/stratgetic than playing PvE. If what you said is true, Bliz would have hold several highly competitive battleground world tournaments, no? 3. Less tatical/stratgey requires less creativity. 4. For someone who are willling to invest so much time in grinding, they must be good at repetitive tasks. Seems logical to me.
hmmm, i honestly dont care if any of you get off topic anymore so any mods dont delete this post, I want to see what people have to say, it gets preety ridiculous and I think weve heard lots of "good" reasons. I really couldnt care less if you get off topic just like I really couldnt care less if the world blew up right now, Id hopefully be in somewaht of a happier place, unless heaven isnt a happy place, hell would be interesting or I could just spend the rest of eternity lying dead in a hole and decomposing but the heaven thing sounds better, you dont have maggots crawwling through your eyes. But at least the hole you dont have anything to worry about since your dead and rotting.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this in your signature.
Off topic posts don't prevent you from seeing what people have to say. What they have to say is up there. Neither does it stop people posting on-topic. If more people had on-topic things to say they would say them.
By the way, what does your last sentence mean? It seems to be incomplete. But at least the hole I dont have anything to worry about so my dead and rotting... what?
I dont really give a crap if the sentence is incomplete or not this is a forum and if you go around and correct everyones mistakes than have fun spending your whole life trying to make people spell right. Youd die and still have and impossible amount of posts to tell people to spell right. If you die you go in a hole and rot and dont have to worry about anything. That makes sense to me.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this in your signature.
There are many reason to choose WoW over other MMO's out there but I give you the best reason.
It is pure entertainment and fun to play. That's it.
Not that other games aren't good or as good. I loved and played EQ still play EQ2 once in a while, loved DAoC when it first came out and played it for several years before going back to EQ then EQ2. I've also played several other MMO's but those are the ones I liked best.
The problem with all MMO's is end game content. It ends up either being hours of endless raiding boss mobs or hours of endless PvP. Now personally I find raiding bosses as boring as watching paint dry, but some people like it. I love PvP and some people hate it. DAoC has the best end game PvP. If WoW had PvP like that it would rock the charts as the best game. I haven't played DAoC in a while so someone else may have a better perspective on it. I know the graphics are better now with the expansions but man they have to fix crafting so it doesn't suck. The problem with DAoC crafting is the problem most MMO's have with lvling and crafting. It's too much like work, and by that I mean like having a second job. I just wanna relax and have some fun killing mobs and other players with friends and craft what I need to save me some in game money.
(I know other people just like to grind for xp and coin and buy their stuff but that's not me. At least games with good quests are like goal oriented grinding and not so bad.)
Most MMO's have you grind out endless hours of lvling and crafting. EQ 2 crafting is by far the worst. Makes DAoC crafting actually look good. It takes so long to make stuff that crafting is now your part time night job. DAoC crafting is similar but more expensive and too much chance of failure when making an item. Sometimes it take 5-10 tries to get one item made. Again a second job. Lvling is another story. I like the combat in EQ2 and the quests, though I still don't feel it's friendly enough to solo players. Problem with DAoC is too much downtime between killing mobs so that makes it take long and again it's like a second job. I also don't like the way casters are made in DAoC. WoW casting classes rock. They may still get stomped in their squishy cloth but at least they have a fair chance of surviving. (Whether they kill the opponent or run and escape, hehe.)
I could go on but this post is already too long, hehe, and I think you get the gist of it.
Let me just close by saying that all games are a personal preference. It just boils down to what each person likes/dislikes about a game and what they want to get out of playing the game. Games come and go for most people as they have for me. That usually happens when the game just isn't any fun to play anymore (hence end game content). For me it's all about relaxing and having fun with friends (RL and in game ones). When playing a GAME starts to feel like WORK (meaning I think they should pay me to play since I have to put so much time into it instead of the other way around, lol) that's when I start looking for something new. WoW is still fun but even with the expansion coming out it's appeal for me is waning (Again end game content. So I get to 70 and now what? Same PvP which isn't so great? Or feeling that I'd rather slit my wrists than have to raid boss mobs for hours on end?) All I can say right now is thank Mythic and Games Workshop for making me explode with anticipation for Warhammer online. I hope they learned from all lthe mistakes they made with DAoC, and I look forward to the most awesome end game content ever devised for an MMO, RVR combat, WOOT! It's the best PvP for end game ever created and gets 10 thumbs up in my book.
1. Beautifully realised environments, very immersive experience like no other MMO (In all my 6 years of MMO gaming).
2. Fun combat system, very tight and responsive controls, hardly any lag (Been playing 3 months now, not noticed any lag yet anyways), I think the Rogue class is a great system in WoW, and I enjoy the classes abilities.
3. We all love Warcraft. (Or, I love it's theme, visual flair, great sound, music and gameplay variety.)
1. Most addicits do not admit they are addicits too. Whether you are an addicit or not, I can't answer that for you.
That is very true, look at the beginning of the fourm poll. Only 25% addmited they were obbsessed, 75% said they weren't. I think its the other way around.
3 reasons why WoW is ok 1. It is accessible 2. The talent-trees are great. 3. The mail system, which has to be an essential of every mmorpg now.
Why it is bad. 1. It is has a lot of 'pvp' issues. 2. It has poor community. 3. It has poor customer service with the mentality of we're big so it doesn't matter.
If you die you go in a hole and rot and dont have to worry about anything. That makes sense to me.
Please stop talking.
look at the beginning of the fourm poll. Only 25% addmited they were obbsessed, 75% said they weren't. I think its the other way around.
Or, quite possibly, it's that 25% of the people who actually read the post play WoW, and the other 75% hate the game and come here to laugh at the idiots still playing it.
1. u get to endgame very fast ... 3. if u are a tootal noob and just dont have any skills at all u can still be sucsessfull in WoW
Since when are these positive points for a game? Most people like to, you know, actually PLAY the game.
The intelligence shown in this thread is weak, at best. This is a perfect example of the WoW community... uninformed, stupid, unscrupulous, uncaring, and lacking any semblance of skill.
Yes, and what are you, a beacon for gaming intelligence? This thread is a perfect example of nothing but THIS SITE's poor community. You openly admit your sole reason for coming into this forum is trolling and you have the audacity to question someone elses intelligence? The way I see it, is people like you are the reason WoW's community was so bad. People like you are why this community is so bad. And people like you are the reason its impossible to have an intelligent discussion on the internet in general.
Yes, and what are you, a beacon for gaming intelligence?
I don't think those are quite the words I would have chosen, but I appreciate it anyways.
You openly admit your sole reason for coming into this forum is trolling
I don't remember saying that. My goal in coming here was to support the OP in his efforts to point out how pathetic WoW is in general. I don't think laughing at the people who fail to put up a decent return arguement would be considered "trolling."
you have the audacity to question someone elses intelligence?
Did YOU read the thread?
people like you are the reason WoW's community was so bad. People like you are why this community is so bad. And people like you are the reason its impossible to have an intelligent discussion on the internet in general.
Yes, we have priceless quotes above like "I can be a complete retard and still succeed" and some 8 year old talking about rotting in a hole, and you're convinced that it's my fault. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps we're on the same side, and you're just attacking me because I'm the only person who understands where you're coming from?
I totally agree that WoW's community is garbage, but I can assure you that it is NOT because of people like me. I come here because I care.
WoW is the most complete and well-rounded MMO of all time.
Most complete? I totally agree. No other MMO has the amount of polish that WoW has right now. It's the least buggy and the most user-friendly.
Most well-rounded? Hardly. Grind grind grind, raid raid raid. In a game where everyone can 1-shot everyone else, "well-rounded" is not a word you hear often. Or ever, for that matter.
WoW is the most complete and well-rounded MMO of all time.
Most complete? I totally agree. No other MMO has the amount of polish that WoW has right now. It's the least buggy and the most user-friendly.
Most well-rounded? Hardly. Grind grind grind, raid raid raid. In a game where everyone can 1-shot everyone else, "well-rounded" is not a word you hear often. Or ever, for that matter.
Grind, Grind, Grind? At level 19, I have more quests and things to do than in any other game I have played.. The amount of stuff to do is almost overwhelming! EQ2 had some decent quests, but around lvl 20 everyone is diong their armor quests, and that is it! By the time you get done with AQ4, your armor is worthless... The quest system is extremely well rounded, the only other game that matches it is CoH with the sheer number of quests/missions, only problem with CoH is doing the same mission over and over again, at least you get a change of scenery, new areas to explore and much much more monsters to fight...
I'd hate to see how you would react playing a REAL MMO.
The quest system is extremely well rounded
There's that word again. To be honest with you, I don't consider "kill X until you find Y" a quest. A REAL quest will have multiple parts, usually sending you to various areas, and involving more than one skill, and DEFINITELY involving more than just killing monsters. By this definition, WoW has only a handful of quests.
EDIT: Most of the quests after level 20 or 25 are garbage anyways. Most players stop doing quests in favor of simply killing, which can be fun in its own right. The grind to 60 isn't bad, it's running Raid #1 for 9 hours a night until you get to Raid #2, and grinding 150,000 points of reputation for each of 30 separate factions that gets old. I don't remember there being much in the way of quests there at all.
1. There are more Kids than Adults playing 2. There are more "Goldfarmers" than players 3. Blizzard dont care since "More farmers = More accounts= More income"
It has been forever since this was last posted on and I havent been on this site for over 4 months, I was going to re ask this question to anybody else seeing as there are probably more people now that havent answered it. Same question as in the beginning.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this in your signature.
One more thing why spend so much money on WoW when there are plenty of great free games out there that are great. And the reason Im asking you and not putting an opinion of what I thought of the game, is because I havent played it, so nobody can insult my opinion seeing as I didnt really give one other than dont obsess over World of Warcraft.
So, if you have never playd it, how can you post time and again about how much you hate it, and how much better free MMO's are? This is in no way a flame that I am about to say, just a simple suggestion..... either spend more time in your free games and less time bashing a game you haven't played, or part with 15 bucks and give it a try for a month. Honestly, its like bashing green beans but never having tasted them. Go play the game, then if you still feel the same way about it, post as many WoW bashing posts as you want, you will have at least done SOMETHING to base a real opinion on. (and for the record, I have played alot of the "free" MMO's.... I play WoW, I like WoW.... like another poster said, it works, and its fun. Unlike alot of the free ones. Free isn't always better. Would you take a free car that runs sometimes, or buy one that runs all the time?) As far as obsessing over WoW, you seem to be doing enough of that for everyone (I see your hate posts everywhere), so you might as well give it a shot.
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I played COH and COV I still think Gw's is better. Ive allso messed around on WoW and DAOC.
1. Prone to online game addicition
2. Less tatical/stratgical adopt
3. Less creative
4. Good at repetitive tasks.
so much misinformation and drama here
OP here are 3 reasons why WoW is better then other MMORPGs:
1. "noob friendly": assuming you actually went through the newbie zone and read the quest infos and in game hints, you'll have gained a general understanding of what your class is capable of.
2. huge world: WoW is huge, it would take days (as in real world 24 hour days) to explore all the avaiable ground, even the small zones will take you 2-3 hours to explore in full, and while there you have beautifully renderd terrain to watch.
3. big content patches: there's a huge scale event in about every patch of WoW, new dungeons, new encounters, you never run out of content you can do.
and as a side note, to the people crying "you get to 60 and quit" you are, without a doubt, either misinformed, or never understood that WoW is actually 2 games, the leveling game of 1-60, and endgame at level 60 (in which you go to gain reputation with the various factions, run instances, pvp, aquire better gear or just hang around with a few friends in winterspring waiting for a hapless horde to wonder by so you can pounce him
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a second side note to the people claimnig each class is similar to the other, i've played them all, most to 60, and there is not a single class that is similar to the other, except in the most general terms (and even then, the way of preforming the various tasks are very different)
MMORPG addict since 1995.
1. Prone to online game addicition
2. Less tatical/stratgical adopt
3. Less creative
4. Good at repetitive tasks.
1. yes, i like to play WoW, i average at 16hrs/week play time, does that make me an addict? i think not.
2. i never noticed that, have any evidance beyond your own opinion to back up that claim? (all you have to do is go and take a look at some of the pve boss encounters (before tons of vidoes are released making the content trivial to master), or an orgenized pvp group, to see how far from the truth this claim is)
3. look at 2, then look again.
4. that is the essence of an MMO, you have time sinks built in, and having played quite a few MMOs (AC, AO, EQ, EVE just to name a few) WoW time sinks are much less obvious, and a hell of a lot more fun then any of the other games i've played (hackler grind anyone?
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MMORPG addict since 1995.
Plasuma, it almost looks like you made yourself hate the game, because whenever I played it I didn't think that grinding for my mount was horridly boring and repetitive, I thought of it as a goal. You might even have to do the same thing in RL, such as working on a project that requires you to do the same thing over and over until it's perfect. Besides, the point of the mount was to make you move faster, if you didn't want it then you didn't have to buy it..
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1. Prone to online game addicition
2. Less tatical/stratgical adopt
3. Less creative
4. Good at repetitive tasks.
1. yes, i like to play WoW, i average at 16hrs/week play time, does that make me an addict? i think not.
2. i never noticed that, have any evidance beyond your own opinion to back up that claim? (all you have to do is go and take a look at some of the pve boss encounters (before tons of vidoes are released making the content trivial to master), or an orgenized pvp group, to see how far from the truth this claim is)
3. look at 2, then look again.
4. that is the essence of an MMO, you have time sinks built in, and having played quite a few MMOs (AC, AO, EQ, EVE just to name a few) WoW time sinks are much less obvious, and a hell of a lot more fun then any of the other games i've played (hackler grind anyone?
)
1. Most addicits do not admit they are addicits too. Whether you are an addicit or not, I can't answer that for you.
2. I think fighting against another player(s) would require more tatical/stratgetic than playing PvE. If what you said is true, Bliz would have hold several highly competitive battleground world tournaments, no?
3. Less tatical/stratgey requires less creativity.
4. For someone who are willling to invest so much time in grinding, they must be good at repetitive tasks. Seems logical to me.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this in your signature.
Off topic posts don't prevent you from seeing what people have to say. What they have to say is up there. Neither does it stop people posting on-topic. If more people had on-topic things to say they would say them.
By the way, what does your last sentence mean? It seems to be incomplete. But at least the hole I dont have anything to worry about so my dead and rotting... what?
I dont really give a crap if the sentence is incomplete or not this is a forum and if you go around and correct everyones mistakes than have fun spending your whole life trying to make people spell right. Youd die and still have and impossible amount of posts to tell people to spell right. If you die you go in a hole and rot and dont have to worry about anything. That makes sense to me.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this in your signature.
There are many reason to choose WoW over other MMO's out there but I give you the best reason.
It is pure entertainment and fun to play. That's it.
Not that other games aren't good or as good. I loved and played EQ still play EQ2 once in a while, loved DAoC when it first came out and played it for several years before going back to EQ then EQ2. I've also played several other MMO's but those are the ones I liked best.
The problem with all MMO's is end game content. It ends up either being hours of endless raiding boss mobs or hours of endless PvP. Now personally I find raiding bosses as boring as watching paint dry, but some people like it. I love PvP and some people hate it. DAoC has the best end game PvP. If WoW had PvP like that it would rock the charts as the best game. I haven't played DAoC in a while so someone else may have a better perspective on it. I know the graphics are better now with the expansions but man they have to fix crafting so it doesn't suck. The problem with DAoC crafting is the problem most MMO's have with lvling and crafting. It's too much like work, and by that I mean like having a second job. I just wanna relax and have some fun killing mobs and other players with friends and craft what I need to save me some in game money.
(I know other people just like to grind for xp and coin and buy their stuff but that's not me. At least games with good quests are like goal oriented grinding and not so bad.)
Most MMO's have you grind out endless hours of lvling and crafting. EQ 2 crafting is by far the worst. Makes DAoC crafting actually look good. It takes so long to make stuff that crafting is now your part time night job. DAoC crafting is similar but more expensive and too much chance of failure when making an item. Sometimes it take 5-10 tries to get one item made. Again a second job. Lvling is another story. I like the combat in EQ2 and the quests, though I still don't feel it's friendly enough to solo players. Problem with DAoC is too much downtime between killing mobs so that makes it take long and again it's like a second job. I also don't like the way casters are made in DAoC. WoW casting classes rock. They may still get stomped in their squishy cloth but at least they have a fair chance of surviving. (Whether they kill the opponent or run and escape, hehe.)
I could go on but this post is already too long, hehe, and I think you get the gist of it.
Let me just close by saying that all games are a personal preference. It just boils down to what each person likes/dislikes about a game and what they want to get out of playing the game. Games come and go for most people as they have for me. That usually happens when the game just isn't any fun to play anymore (hence end game content). For me it's all about relaxing and having fun with friends (RL and in game ones). When playing a GAME starts to feel like WORK (meaning I think they should pay me to play since I have to put so much time into it instead of the other way around, lol) that's when I start looking for something new. WoW is still fun but even with the expansion coming out it's appeal for me is waning (Again end game content. So I get to 70 and now what? Same PvP which isn't so great? Or feeling that I'd rather slit my wrists than have to raid boss mobs for hours on end?) All I can say right now is thank Mythic and Games Workshop for making me explode with anticipation for Warhammer online. I hope they learned from all lthe mistakes they made with DAoC, and I look forward to the most awesome end game content ever devised for an MMO, RVR combat, WOOT! It's the best PvP for end game ever created and gets 10 thumbs up in my book.
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to anwser the topic.
1. u get to endgame very fast
2. no need to really hardcore grind anything.
3. if u are a tootal noob and just dont have any skills at all u can still be sucsessfull in WoW
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2. Fun combat system, very tight and responsive controls, hardly any lag (Been playing 3 months now, not noticed any lag yet anyways), I think the Rogue class is a great system in WoW, and I enjoy the classes abilities.
3. We all love Warcraft. (Or, I love it's theme, visual flair, great sound, music and gameplay variety.)
Here's to the The Burning Crusade !
That is very true, look at the beginning of the fourm poll. Only 25% addmited they were obbsessed, 75% said they weren't. I think its the other way around.
1. It is accessible
2. The talent-trees are great.
3. The mail system, which has to be an essential of every mmorpg now.
Why it is bad.
1. It is has a lot of 'pvp' issues.
2. It has poor community.
3. It has poor customer service with the mentality of we're big so it doesn't matter.
Please stop talking.
Or, quite possibly, it's that 25% of the people who actually read the post play WoW, and the other 75% hate the game and come here to laugh at the idiots still playing it.
Since when are these positive points for a game? Most people like to, you know, actually PLAY the game.
The intelligence shown in this thread is weak, at best. This is a perfect example of the WoW community... uninformed, stupid, unscrupulous, uncaring, and lacking any semblance of skill.
Congratulations.
I don't think those are quite the words I would have chosen, but I appreciate it anyways.
I don't remember saying that. My goal in coming here was to support the OP in his efforts to point out how pathetic WoW is in general. I don't think laughing at the people who fail to put up a decent return arguement would be considered "trolling."
Did YOU read the thread?
Yes, we have priceless quotes above like "I can be a complete retard and still succeed" and some 8 year old talking about rotting in a hole, and you're convinced that it's my fault. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps we're on the same side, and you're just attacking me because I'm the only person who understands where you're coming from?
I totally agree that WoW's community is garbage, but I can assure you that it is NOT because of people like me. I come here because I care.
I have played just about every MMO out there, and you need only one reason to play:
WoW is the most complete and well-rounded MMO of all time.
Most complete? I totally agree. No other MMO has the amount of polish that WoW has right now. It's the least buggy and the most user-friendly.
Most well-rounded? Hardly. Grind grind grind, raid raid raid. In a game where everyone can 1-shot everyone else, "well-rounded" is not a word you hear often. Or ever, for that matter.
Most complete? I totally agree. No other MMO has the amount of polish that WoW has right now. It's the least buggy and the most user-friendly.
Most well-rounded? Hardly. Grind grind grind, raid raid raid. In a game where everyone can 1-shot everyone else, "well-rounded" is not a word you hear often. Or ever, for that matter.
Grind, Grind, Grind? At level 19, I have more quests and things to do than in any other game I have played.. The amount of stuff to do is almost overwhelming! EQ2 had some decent quests, but around lvl 20 everyone is diong their armor quests, and that is it! By the time you get done with AQ4, your armor is worthless... The quest system is extremely well rounded, the only other game that matches it is CoH with the sheer number of quests/missions, only problem with CoH is doing the same mission over and over again, at least you get a change of scenery, new areas to explore and much much more monsters to fight...
I'd hate to see how you would react playing a REAL MMO.
There's that word again. To be honest with you, I don't consider "kill X until you find Y" a quest. A REAL quest will have multiple parts, usually sending you to various areas, and involving more than one skill, and DEFINITELY involving more than just killing monsters. By this definition, WoW has only a handful of quests.
EDIT: Most of the quests after level 20 or 25 are garbage anyways. Most players stop doing quests in favor of simply killing, which can be fun in its own right. The grind to 60 isn't bad, it's running Raid #1 for 9 hours a night until you get to Raid #2, and grinding 150,000 points of reputation for each of 30 separate factions that gets old. I don't remember there being much in the way of quests there at all.
2. There are more "Goldfarmers" than players
3. Blizzard dont care since "More farmers = More accounts= More income"
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