I pitty a man who is "proud to be a fool". If it wasn't for the fact that your replies have very little to do with my original topic, I may have continued a conversation, but you are clearly missing all the points. Once again, I don't care how popular you think the game is. I do not know Warhammer, but I do know MMO market, and let me fill you in on a little secret - the majority of players who will play Warhammer will not be Warhammer fans. Just like with other titles that have come out before, the actual fans of that game will be a small minority. The majority, on the other hand, will be people completely new to the genre. They will be the gamers who just found another game to play. It was like that with every game.
WoW, for instance, since we are using that here, had its share of die-hard fanbois like you, but they got quickly outnumbered by the gamers who had no clue what Warcraft universe is, and probably still don't know to this day. Galaxies was not full of SW fans. Heck, a large portion of playres didn't even play any other SW game before. Same with any other franchises who go MMO. Your club of Warhammer lovers, however big, will be vastly outnumbered, and they will see what they see. So, instead of giving me another speech about how great Mythic is or how the Warhammer fans will flock to the game like its a waterhole, do a bit of research on MMO industry.
Okay, I feel stupider for just continuing this conversation. You bring nothing to the table, but some words that have little to do with anything I posted about. Show some of that intelligence that you wanted to see, or stop just trolling this thread. Fools should just be quiet till they grow up.
As to other replies, some were very good ones. However, some people are just proving my point more and more. The screenshots posted are nice, but the wolves are rather similar and all use nearly identical drawing lines. Look behind the orc and wolf and you'll see a world that is pretty much WoW. Same colours, same repetition of motifs, same line... heck, some of it may as well be in Azeroth. Now, during the play, it may all start looking different, sure. There are animations that come in and various other aspects. But so far, things are as they are.
To support my argument of coppy-catting, just look at the game demo that is on the official web page. It struck me the first time I watched it how much of a rip-off it is from the opening movie from WoW. I mean... it's not even subtle! WoW starts with animation that reads "10 years of Warcraft". So, WAR had to put a starting animation of "20 years of Warhammer" Lol. I guess that's just to prove they are older
After that, you get to watch some rather dubious and rather pointless fighting. Hmm... isn't that EXACTLY what the WoW opening sequence has? Races fighting in duels? I mean... how much imagination do you need to make something a bit more original for the start of your game that is already having people saying "WoW rip-off graphics". I guess the only real difference is the blood and gore we see in the WAR trailer. And that's about the WAR claim to fame that everyone brings up every time the two get compared.
Face it. WoW was first as a MMO, and since WAR is treading in similar graphic style, they will always and forever be compared to WoW.
How many trailers doesn't have a fight? DoW, Mark of Chaos, both RPG's had alike trailers and cinematics. Even Warcraft 3 has such a cinematic, it's all pointless in your point of view, because they're the same kind of trailers. Al; trailers I see are like that, at least most of them. To say they rip-offed eachothers is, sorry to say, but just stupid. Not to mention Mythic didn't made the trailer, but Blur did. A company on their own, they just got hired by Mythic, but Blur made the script, just visit their site.
All cinematics involve some 'flashy' fight, without a real background, they don't show how gameplay is, alot of games show how old their IP is.
Must I find more ingame wolves to compare with, they're ALL wolves and they ALL lookalike, that has been ever since wolves are in videogames. Just give me a hint and I'll put you up with dozen of wolves, who you just could claim a Warcraft-ripoff, although they're several years older.
You probably didn't read what I posted? Right? What just broke your argument. No one is a ripoff, everyone follows a pattern, what you try to do is taking only two fish out of a big puddle full and say they rip-offed eachother. Every fish looks alike, yet are different, some are bigger, some have a different tint etc. But in the end, they're all fish. This is with games as well. If two fish look a big like eachother, it doesn't immediately means they rip-offed, it might be coincidence in play as well. But if two fish lookalike eachother, there is another one who is as well, and another and another. Because they're from the same species: Fantasy RPG-games.
LittleKove, you're right. There's absolutely too much stupidity and hyperbole surrounding this issue.
Mythic is ignoring WoW completely in creating WAR. The graphics are not based on Blizzard's work, they're based on these:
Which predate Warcraft by years. So, what you're really saying, then, is that you wish Mythic were ignoring established Warhammer imagery because Blizzard jacked it and brought it to digital format first?
"Once again, I don't care how popular you think the game is." - Warhammer is a popular game. Thats called fact. You must be a Christian, accustomed to this kinda of Fact is just someones opinion bs. 'I don't care how much proof there is that evolution is real.' Then continue on with what you may come out with a rock solid argument, but its based on faulty logic, thus rendering it inductively unsound.
"I do not know Warhammer, but I do know MMO market.." - I don't know the customers who have bought your brand before, hell I don't know anything about your products. But I know exactly who will be buying your product, and they have no idea about your brand.
'Die-Hard fanboi' , hardly, just sick of people launching into arguments on faulty premises. Hence why I took a stab at your post in the first place.
As to other replies, some were very good ones. However, some people are just proving my point more and more. The screenshots posted are nice, but the wolves are rather similar and all use nearly identical drawing lines. Look behind the orc and wolf and you'll see a world that is pretty much WoW. Same colours, same repetition of motifs, same line... heck, some of it may as well be in Azeroth. Now, during the play, it may all start looking different, sure. There are animations that come in and various other aspects. But so far, things are as they are. To support my argument of coppy-catting, just look at the game demo that is on the official web page. It struck me the first time I watched it how much of a rip-off it is from the opening movie from WoW. I mean... it's not even subtle! WoW starts with animation that reads "10 years of Warcraft". So, WAR had to put a starting animation of "20 years of Warhammer" Lol. I guess that's just to prove they are older After that, you get to watch some rather dubious and rather pointless fighting. Hmm... isn't that EXACTLY what the WoW opening sequence has? Races fighting in duels? I mean... how much imagination do you need to make something a bit more original for the start of your game that is already having people saying "WoW rip-off graphics". I guess the only real difference is the blood and gore we see in the WAR trailer. And that's about the WAR claim to fame that everyone brings up every time the two get compared. Face it. WoW was first as a MMO, and since WAR is treading in similar graphic style, they will always and forever be compared to WoW.
What you sound like to me is a hipocritical WoW fanboi coming here to glorify a game that EVERYONE knows is popular. Shut up about WoW, and go play it please. Noone cares if you think WAR looks like WoW, or if all the children in your middle school think WAR looks like WoW. Fact of the matter is that Warhammer has had this type of look to it's artwork since its inception. And anyways, what does it matter to you if people want to defend something they like? Who are you to sit in judgement of others when you are here on the WARHAMMER ONLINE FORUM bashing a game just to DEFEND your favorite? Please PLEASE do the world a favor and keep your unfounded opinions to yourself.
WoW is not the only MMO ever made, and definitely not the only MMO with this graphical style. Open your eyes, and your mind to reality. Or, just remain in love with WoW and remain ignorant to the rest of reality....either way I'll be happy when you shut up and discontinue these self absorbed, self aggrandizing posts about your OPINION.
As to other replies, some were very good ones. However, some people are just proving my point more and more. The screenshots posted are nice, but the wolves are rather similar and all use nearly identical drawing lines. Look behind the orc and wolf and you'll see a world that is pretty much WoW.
All impressionist painters look the same to you don't they?
Edit: PS anyone else notice the real wolf looks like it has two heads but the drawn ones don't? Yup, just recounted and only four legs. Creepy.
"Once again, I don't care how popular you think the game is." - Warhammer is a popular game. Thats called fact. You must be a Christian, accustomed to this kinda of Fact is just someones opinion bs. 'I don't care how much proof there is that evolution is real.' Then continue on with what you may come out with a rock solid argument, but its based on faulty logic, thus rendering it inductively unsound.
"I do not know Warhammer, but I do know MMO market.." - I don't know the customers who have bought your brand before, hell I don't know anything about your products. But I know exactly who will be buying your product, and they have no idea about your brand.
'Die-Hard fanboi' , hardly, just sick of people launching into arguments on faulty premises. Hence why I took a stab at your post in the first place.
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While I agree with your point you might want to try not to bash groups of people while you're making points. It tends to make you look like an ass and a fool just as your signature suggests.
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As to other replies, some were very good ones. However, some people are just proving my point more and more. The screenshots posted are nice, but the wolves are rather similar and all use nearly identical drawing lines. Look behind the orc and wolf and you'll see a world that is pretty much WoW.
All impressionist painters look the same to you don't they?
Edit: PS anyone else notice the real wolf looks like it has two heads but the drawn ones don't? Yup, just recounted and only four legs. Creepy.
Haha. Guess the developers have to add another head to make it a 'real' wolf /back on topic.
My sig is pretty much all that needs to be said on this topic. WAR is staying true to the look of the Warhammer world, it's not their fault Blizz liked it so much they decided to copy it. That said, even if WAR was just a WOW clone in every way except had Mythic's awesome RvR system, you wouldn't hear me complain.... overall I liked WOW a lot, too bad the aspect that is most important to me - PvP - sucked horribly.
I can't help but laugh at all the people saying, " Oh look another WoW" or the famous "they stole WoW's theme." GamesWorkshop has created the Warhammer Fantasy universe long b4 warcraft was even thought of. Cheers to finally seeing the originators of the "WoW" fantasy world coming to the forefront. Tabletop to mmo is always a great conversion. I would love to see Warhammer40k hit the mmo medium but there's always hope. Creds to all those who know the truth. I've played WoW since it was in closed beta. Sure WoW came out first with their graphics and whatever, but since I had been playing it I've always chuckled at what a bite off of the WAR Fantasy universe it was. Great game mind you but I just can't wait to play the real deal. Either way yes WoW was here first in the "sandbox" but the sandbox is in WAR fantasy's backyard lol.
Nominated as "Most Obnoxious Thread Title to be Seen on These Forums." On to the topic at hand though... I'd have to agree with what some one already said; even if the graphics were the same, if the game play and PvP system is better then WoW's, I'll be all over this game.
They've said there might be a Bloodthirster in it, no Warhammer game goes without. Except Fire Warrior, but that wasn't a very good game. And you might want to change "Kill.main.burn." to
"Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!! Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!"
Originally posted by coffee Originally posted by Xennith I dont really care if it looks like WoW, because at the same time, it looks like Warhammer.As long as it plays like WAR and not WoW, i dont really give one.
And how does WAR MMO play?
Graphics are graphics, EQ2 looks like VG, WAR looks like WoW, dont judge a game on screen shots.. play it.
WoW with EQ2 style gfx would break the franchise and WoW world, as its basd on the RTS games. Just as WAR with EQ2 style graphics would break the comics, cartoons, and RTS games.
What realy gets me is all the who think Wow is evil because they got in there first and then WAR decided to take up the MMO race.
Both games use similar gfx style (and have done for over a decade) GET OVER IT!, neither is right or wrong. Cry "WoW stole WAR gfx" all you like it dont make a difference, WAR gfx will always be compared to WoW gfx because WoW came first... its the way these things work.
I gotta say you cant the history of the gaming industri at all but thats another story. Warhammer was first and people do care !
I dont really care if it looks like WoW, because at the same time, it looks like Warhammer.
As long as it plays like WAR and not WoW, i dont really give one.
And how does WAR MMO play?
Graphics are graphics, EQ2 looks like VG, WAR looks like WoW, dont judge a game on screen shots.. play it.
WoW with EQ2 style gfx would break the franchise and WoW world, as its basd on the RTS games. Just as WAR with EQ2 style graphics would break the comics, cartoons, and RTS games.
What realy gets me is all the who think Wow is evil because they got in there first and then WAR decided to take up the MMO race.
Both games use similar gfx style (and have done for over a decade) GET OVER IT!, neither is right or wrong. Cry "WoW stole WAR gfx" all you like it dont make a difference, WAR gfx will always be compared to WoW gfx because WoW came first... its the way these things work.
I gotta say you cant the history of the gaming industri at all but thats another story.
Warhammer was first and people do care !
WAR and WoW will always be compared do to their gfx style.
If you want to talk about over all gaming history... Lord of the Rings was first. Everything else is just a copy.
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I dont really care if it looks like WoW, because at the same time, it looks like Warhammer.
As long as it plays like WAR and not WoW, i dont really give one.
And how does WAR MMO play?
Graphics are graphics, EQ2 looks like VG, WAR looks like WoW, dont judge a game on screen shots.. play it.
WoW with EQ2 style gfx would break the franchise and WoW world, as its basd on the RTS games. Just as WAR with EQ2 style graphics would break the comics, cartoons, and RTS games.
What realy gets me is all the who think Wow is evil because they got in there first and then WAR decided to take up the MMO race.
Both games use similar gfx style (and have done for over a decade) GET OVER IT!, neither is right or wrong. Cry "WoW stole WAR gfx" all you like it dont make a difference, WAR gfx will always be compared to WoW gfx because WoW came first... its the way these things work.
I gotta say you cant the history of the gaming industri at all but thats another story.
Warhammer was first and people do care !
WAR and WoW will always be compared do to their gfx style.
If you want to talk about over all gaming history... Lord of the Rings was first. Everything else is just a copy.
Nope, Tolkien wasn't first, Norse and other mythologies were, and I'm not even sure on them
Originally posted by LittleKove As to other replies, some were very good ones. However, some people are just proving my point more and more.
Obviously you have chose to ignore everything people have told you about Warhammer, how it has been around forever, how it made its own art, etc etc. Point is, WoW didnt create this art.
Its impossible to steal an artistic style that was copied from you in the first place. Please read that another 3 times and let that sink in.
The screenshots posted are nice, but the wolves are rather similar and all use nearly identical drawing lines.
OMG two wolves drawn by different people happen and they happen to look similiar!! MAYBE ITS BECAUSE THERE DRAWING THE SAME THING.
Look behind the orc and wolf and you'll see a world that is pretty much WoW. Same colours, same repetition of motifs, same line... heck, some of it may as well be in Azeroth. Now, during the play, it may all start looking different, sure. There are animations that come in and various other aspects. But so far, things are as they are.
To support my argument of coppy-catting, just look at the game demo that is on the official web page. It struck me the first time I watched it how much of a rip-off it is from the opening movie from WoW. I mean... it's not even subtle! WoW starts with animation that reads "10 years of Warcraft". So, WAR had to put a starting animation of "20 years of Warhammer" Lol. I guess that's just to prove they are older After that, you get to watch some rather dubious and rather pointless fighting. Hmm... isn't that EXACTLY what the WoW opening sequence has?
Id venture to say that most games movies follow the same mold.
Races fighting in duels? I mean... how much imagination do you need to make something a bit more original for the start of your game that is already having people saying "WoW rip-off graphics". I guess the only real difference is the blood and gore we see in the WAR trailer. And that's about the WAR claim to fame that everyone brings up every time the two get compared. Face it. WoW was first as a MMO, and since WAR is treading in similar graphic style, they will always and forever be compared to WoW.
I agree that they may be compared to WoW. And thats not saying anything good about the clueless general public. It just shows how little anyone making that claim actually knows about the Warhammer Franchise.
And to your claim of WoW was first as a mmo. Yeah I guess. But people were playing muds and reading Warhammer novels and painting miniatures 15 years before WoW was even a thought in Blizzards mind.
Without Warhammer, do you honestly beleive that World of Warcraft would of even existed? If they didnt have anyone to steal there art from, well there just sol.
BUT! the game did not, how come that the interfaces are very similar? Many MMO's have the same kind of UI, alot of upcoming do, that is. This is because WoW made a innovating, easy to learn UI. 'Copying' this is not lame, it's smart, and besides, the UI you see in the screenshots is just a part of the entire UI. Nonetheless, much difference between UI's are very hard to make. A map, a bar full of buttons linked to skills. Nothing much different from other RPG's. Although, the only thing WAR differs from is a moving avatar in the UI and some things placed elsewhere, but dozens of other MMO's/RPG's do exactly the samet hing.
how come that the circle under the guy when u target him is the same? A don't see a circle, but a hexagon, in one of the gameplay-movies. Although, what RPG doesn't mark 'your target' in this way?
how come that the orcs etc. look almoust exactly the same? Because it's an Orc Orcs are nowadays accepted as green brutes with tusks. But I guarantuee you, the Warhammer Orc has been like this for 25 years. And I got into Warhammer before Warcraft 1 was released (yes, I was pretty young, but I still own pictures of Orcs older than Warcraft 1.)
and how come that the graph style is the same? (even it's a lot better in WAR) It has been Warhammer's style for 25 years, I don't mind Warcraft having it similar. The game WAR is younger, but still ONLY uses Warhammer's art. Trust me.
and NO I don't like WoW, I fokin hate it bcs of it's end game and lack of real pvp. I can't comment on this, as this is your opinion and taste.
WAR might be become as a good game, but ripping off other games UI's etc.
is fukin lame. Every FPS has the same UI, most RPG has a similar UI, all in all, UI's look a like in lots and lots of games, it isn't just WoW and WAR. You look at things very selective.
at least some games that are coming out, are making their own interfaces and graphic style.
this game will offer very few thing that ain't any some other game (like.. umm...well king-steal thingie )
I'm gonna just wait for AoC which is atleast making something new to this gendre.
Okay, let's set things straight for a moment. I am sitting here and just laughing at all you WAR fainbois who are so quick to point out that it was WoW that STOLE WAR graphics and that's why WAR looks cartoonish and resembles WoW. Every post I read on this forum has someone stating this like it's some important thing. First, I was just annoyed at it, but now it's actually amusing. If there ever was a better excuse to make the product you are in love with try to look original. It's like two kids in a sandbox having an argument: "I was here first! Waaah!" Let's face it, folks. Even if this is true, and it very well may be, only a select number of you will know that. The truth is that 95% of WAR players will not know this, and for them, this game will just look like a WoW graphics knockoff. Honestly, many people have pointed it out already that from the screenshots, this game looks like WoW. In fact, my first impression on seeing the first screenshot (before knowing WAR was coming out) was: Oh, a new monster in WoW! Then I found out about WAR . So, let's stop this foolishness. Let the game be what it is. It looks like WoW, and deying it while pointing out that someone stole some graphics from someone else is just being childish. WoW came out first, and everyone will equivocate those graphics with WoW. WAR has some work to do if it wants to be original... or it can stay as it is, and if you all just let it be, it may still be a good game with WoW-like graphics. Nothing wrong with that.
I do think that warhammer inc had a lawsuit for warcraft inc many years back on this subject, the complete look and playstyle of warcraft was being sued by warhammer for copyright stuff.
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I pitty a man who is "proud to be a fool". If it wasn't for the fact that your replies have very little to do with my original topic, I may have continued a conversation, but you are clearly missing all the points. Once again, I don't care how popular you think the game is. I do not know Warhammer, but I do know MMO market, and let me fill you in on a little secret - the majority of players who will play Warhammer will not be Warhammer fans. Just like with other titles that have come out before, the actual fans of that game will be a small minority. The majority, on the other hand, will be people completely new to the genre. They will be the gamers who just found another game to play. It was like that with every game.
WoW, for instance, since we are using that here, had its share of die-hard fanbois like you, but they got quickly outnumbered by the gamers who had no clue what Warcraft universe is, and probably still don't know to this day. Galaxies was not full of SW fans. Heck, a large portion of playres didn't even play any other SW game before. Same with any other franchises who go MMO. Your club of Warhammer lovers, however big, will be vastly outnumbered, and they will see what they see. So, instead of giving me another speech about how great Mythic is or how the Warhammer fans will flock to the game like its a waterhole, do a bit of research on MMO industry.
Okay, I feel stupider for just continuing this conversation. You bring nothing to the table, but some words that have little to do with anything I posted about. Show some of that intelligence that you wanted to see, or stop just trolling this thread. Fools should just be quiet till they grow up.
As to other replies, some were very good ones. However, some people are just proving my point more and more. The screenshots posted are nice, but the wolves are rather similar and all use nearly identical drawing lines. Look behind the orc and wolf and you'll see a world that is pretty much WoW. Same colours, same repetition of motifs, same line... heck, some of it may as well be in Azeroth. Now, during the play, it may all start looking different, sure. There are animations that come in and various other aspects. But so far, things are as they are.
To support my argument of coppy-catting, just look at the game demo that is on the official web page. It struck me the first time I watched it how much of a rip-off it is from the opening movie from WoW. I mean... it's not even subtle! WoW starts with animation that reads "10 years of Warcraft". So, WAR had to put a starting animation of "20 years of Warhammer" Lol. I guess that's just to prove they are older
After that, you get to watch some rather dubious and rather pointless fighting. Hmm... isn't that EXACTLY what the WoW opening sequence has? Races fighting in duels? I mean... how much imagination do you need to make something a bit more original for the start of your game that is already having people saying "WoW rip-off graphics". I guess the only real difference is the blood and gore we see in the WAR trailer. And that's about the WAR claim to fame that everyone brings up every time the two get compared.
Face it. WoW was first as a MMO, and since WAR is treading in similar graphic style, they will always and forever be compared to WoW.
How many trailers doesn't have a fight? DoW, Mark of Chaos, both RPG's had alike trailers and cinematics. Even Warcraft 3 has such a cinematic, it's all pointless in your point of view, because they're the same kind of trailers. Al; trailers I see are like that, at least most of them. To say they rip-offed eachothers is, sorry to say, but just stupid. Not to mention Mythic didn't made the trailer, but Blur did. A company on their own, they just got hired by Mythic, but Blur made the script, just visit their site.
All cinematics involve some 'flashy' fight, without a real background, they don't show how gameplay is, alot of games show how old their IP is.
Must I find more ingame wolves to compare with, they're ALL wolves and they ALL lookalike, that has been ever since wolves are in videogames. Just give me a hint and I'll put you up with dozen of wolves, who you just could claim a Warcraft-ripoff, although they're several years older.
You probably didn't read what I posted? Right? What just broke your argument. No one is a ripoff, everyone follows a pattern, what you try to do is taking only two fish out of a big puddle full and say they rip-offed eachother. Every fish looks alike, yet are different, some are bigger, some have a different tint etc. But in the end, they're all fish. This is with games as well. If two fish look a big like eachother, it doesn't immediately means they rip-offed, it might be coincidence in play as well. But if two fish lookalike eachother, there is another one who is as well, and another and another. Because they're from the same species: Fantasy RPG-games.
Mythic is ignoring WoW completely in creating WAR. The graphics are not based on Blizzard's work, they're based on these:
Which predate Warcraft by years. So, what you're really saying, then, is that you wish Mythic were ignoring established Warhammer imagery because Blizzard jacked it and brought it to digital format first?
"I do not know Warhammer, but I do know MMO market.." - I don't know the customers who have bought your brand before, hell I don't know anything about your products. But I know exactly who will be buying your product, and they have no idea about your brand.
'Die-Hard fanboi' , hardly, just sick of people launching into arguments on faulty premises. Hence why I took a stab at your post in the first place.
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What you sound like to me is a hipocritical WoW fanboi coming here to glorify a game that EVERYONE knows is popular. Shut up about WoW, and go play it please. Noone cares if you think WAR looks like WoW, or if all the children in your middle school think WAR looks like WoW. Fact of the matter is that Warhammer has had this type of look to it's artwork since its inception. And anyways, what does it matter to you if people want to defend something they like? Who are you to sit in judgement of others when you are here on the WARHAMMER ONLINE FORUM bashing a game just to DEFEND your favorite? Please PLEASE do the world a favor and keep your unfounded opinions to yourself.
WoW is not the only MMO ever made, and definitely not the only MMO with this graphical style. Open your eyes, and your mind to reality. Or, just remain in love with WoW and remain ignorant to the rest of reality....either way I'll be happy when you shut up and discontinue these self absorbed, self aggrandizing posts about your OPINION.
All impressionist painters look the same to you don't they?
Edit: PS anyone else notice the real wolf looks like it has two heads but the drawn ones don't? Yup, just recounted and only four legs. Creepy.
While I agree with your point you might want to try not to bash groups of people while you're making points. It tends to make you look like an ass and a fool just as your signature suggests.
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All impressionist painters look the same to you don't they?
Edit: PS anyone else notice the real wolf looks like it has two heads but the drawn ones don't? Yup, just recounted and only four legs. Creepy.
Haha. Guess the developers have to add another head to make it a 'real' wolf
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I can't help but laugh at all the people saying, " Oh look another WoW" or the famous "they stole WoW's theme." GamesWorkshop has created the Warhammer Fantasy universe long b4 warcraft was even thought of. Cheers to finally seeing the originators of the "WoW" fantasy world coming to the forefront. Tabletop to mmo is always a great conversion. I would love to see Warhammer40k hit the mmo medium but there's always hope. Creds to all those who know the truth. I've played WoW since it was in closed beta. Sure WoW came out first with their graphics and whatever, but since I had been playing it I've always chuckled at what a bite off of the WAR Fantasy universe it was. Great game mind you but I just can't wait to play the real deal. Either way yes WoW was here first in the "sandbox" but the sandbox is in WAR fantasy's backyard lol.
I couldn't care less about the graphics... I am more concern of the WAR PvP and PvE gameplays.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Metallica8589/videos?view=0
WAR = "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGG"
OR
"KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN.KILL.MAIM.BURN."
Assuming there is a Khorne NPC SOMEWHERE.
They've said there might be a Bloodthirster in it, no Warhammer game goes without. Except Fire Warrior, but that wasn't a very good game. And you might want to change "Kill.main.burn." to
"Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!! Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!Blood for the Blood God!!! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!!"
At least if you're really Khornate
Graphics are graphics, EQ2 looks like VG, WAR looks like WoW, dont judge a game on screen shots.. play it.
WoW with EQ2 style gfx would break the franchise and WoW world, as its basd on the RTS games. Just as WAR with EQ2 style graphics would break the comics, cartoons, and RTS games.
What realy gets me is all the
who think Wow is evil because they got in there first and then WAR decided to take up the MMO race.
Both games use similar gfx style (and have done for over a decade) GET OVER IT!, neither is right or wrong. Cry "WoW stole WAR gfx" all you like it dont make a difference, WAR gfx will always be compared to WoW gfx because WoW came first... its the way these things work.
I gotta say you cant the history of the gaming industri at all but thats another story.
Warhammer was first and people do care !
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Graphics are graphics, EQ2 looks like VG, WAR looks like WoW, dont judge a game on screen shots.. play it.
WoW with EQ2 style gfx would break the franchise and WoW world, as its basd on the RTS games. Just as WAR with EQ2 style graphics would break the comics, cartoons, and RTS games.
What realy gets me is all the
who think Wow is evil because they got in there first and then WAR decided to take up the MMO race.
Both games use similar gfx style (and have done for over a decade) GET OVER IT!, neither is right or wrong. Cry "WoW stole WAR gfx" all you like it dont make a difference, WAR gfx will always be compared to WoW gfx because WoW came first... its the way these things work.
I gotta say you cant the history of the gaming industri at all but thats another story.
Warhammer was first and people do care !
WAR and WoW will always be compared do to their gfx style.
If you want to talk about over all gaming history... Lord of the Rings was first. Everything else is just a copy.
"Whosoever shed last blood
By man shall his blood be shed
For immunity of God make he the man
Destroy all that which is evil
So that which is good may flourish
And I shall count thee among my favored sheep
And you shall have the protection of all the angels in Heaven."
Graphics are graphics, EQ2 looks like VG, WAR looks like WoW, dont judge a game on screen shots.. play it.
WoW with EQ2 style gfx would break the franchise and WoW world, as its basd on the RTS games. Just as WAR with EQ2 style graphics would break the comics, cartoons, and RTS games.
What realy gets me is all the
who think Wow is evil because they got in there first and then WAR decided to take up the MMO race.
Both games use similar gfx style (and have done for over a decade) GET OVER IT!, neither is right or wrong. Cry "WoW stole WAR gfx" all you like it dont make a difference, WAR gfx will always be compared to WoW gfx because WoW came first... its the way these things work.
I gotta say you cant the history of the gaming industri at all but thats another story.
Warhammer was first and people do care !
WAR and WoW will always be compared do to their gfx style.
If you want to talk about over all gaming history... Lord of the Rings was first. Everything else is just a copy.
Nope, Tolkien wasn't first, Norse and other mythologies were, and I'm not even sure on them
whole WAR thing came before WoW
BUT! the game did not, how come that the interfaces are very similar?
how come that the circle under the guy when u target him is the same?
how come that the orcs etc. look almoust exactly the same?
and how come that the graph style is the same? (even it's a lot better in WAR)
and NO I don't like WoW, I fokin hate it bcs of it's end game and lack of real pvp.
WAR might be become as a good game, but ripping off other games UI's etc.
is fukin lame.
at least some games that are coming out, are making their own interfaces and graphic style.
this game will offer very few thing that ain't any some other game (like.. umm...well king-steal thingie
I'm gonna just wait for AoC which is atleast making something new to this gendre.
playing eq2 and two worlds
What is silly is that these WoW fanbois dont realise that Warhammer has more computer game titles released than all the games Blizzard has released.
this link tells it best........
www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10
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