Wrong impression? You mean like their whole society is based on a failed ideology? Or that ther human rights record might be somewhat suspect? Or dare we be foolish enough to believe the reports of their weapons of mass destruction? No... I'm just worried they're going to kill my GPS satellites depriving me of my ability to navigate in Boston.
We're not wary of China because it's a foreign country, we're wary of China because its a tolitarian regime, based on a failed ideology, an ideology that fails to take into consideration human nature, a government that doesn't allow dissent and oppresses freedom and liberty for their own citizens and their neighbors (as much as they can). Not to mention their propensity for selling missile and nuclear technology to some other less-than-ideal states (Iran, North Korea, Pakistan...). Don't assume that the only reason Americans or Europeans or anyone would only be wary of China because of xenophobia.
There is more then one big country in the world who
-has a bad human rights record
-has weapons of mass destruction
-has amoral leaders
-is selling weapons to questionable groups
-is oppressing freedom and liberty for their own citizens
But lets get not political here shall we?
Originally posted by Munki
Originally posted by mehhem
Originally posted by Gameloading
Its in the new ruleset, you are only allowed to play WoW US servers in certain regions, and China is not one of them, hence you were banned.
That is so freaking stupid. I swear sometimes I hate MMO's and their respected companies. due to a law in china.. please read the forum and know what your talking about before you post with such "strong" comments
Wait... You say that this rule set was created due to laws in china?
Quite honestly, you should be fired from your job for playing WoW when you were being paid to work. Would you be posting here if that happened about how unfair THAT was too?
sanctimoniousadjective- excessively or hypocritically pious; "a sickening sanctimonious smile", feigning piety or righteousness.
*shrug* Call it what you will. If you even have Freecell up on your computer where I work, you'll be canned, no matter who you are. Perhaps "down under" the rules are different. I would think you are old enough to know better. Guess not.
Well I use to like Blizzard, Warcraft 1 was the first PC game that I ever played and was immediately addicted to PC's back in the early 90's. I have kept up with the Warcraft series, and love it. But since they entered into the MMORPG market any respect I have had for them was vanished. For one thing WoW didn't deliver the series like it could have, for another their customer support has bottomed out. Oh well I guess.
I read the rule but does anyone know if this person has a case or not? The way I figured it, once you sign the agreement you are SOL. But let's say I make a game and in the agreement I say NO CHINESE IPS. Am I being biased? I see this as a form of segregation if you will. It's like having a seperate bathroom for whites and blacks. Except this is like having a seperate game for Chinese and Americans. Really, is the gold farming that big of a deal? I know of many people who have bought golds (in the 10s of thousands). None of them are banned. I don't understand the logic behind this.
Got nothing to do with segregation its blizzard comply to chinese law in the restriction of mmo times. Doing otherwise might get them kicked from china and lose a chunk of thier income they would be crazy not to. The main probs with plat farming is for companies its a copyright infringement on their creative rights. That someone is making profit off of them and from a player stand point they are seen as inflatting the economy and its much easy to ban the fellows that sell it than those who buy it.
Quite honestly, you should be fired from your job for playing WoW when you were being paid to work. Would you be posting here if that happened about how unfair THAT was too?
Either
A) Your a really shitty network engineer
You work for a company that rents out single servers to anyone (which I understand since I used to work for a company like this and it was hard work)
C) Your company is very strict and I understand this
D) Your 12 years old and have no idea what your talking about.
And a follow up, I contacted Blizzard, via phone and email. Over the phone they told me they could not do anything and that I had to email the account admin, I asked to speak with a manager or someone in charge but they said I had to email. I sent an email and within 30-45 minutes I got an email back saying the same thing I have always gotten. "
This account has been issued a closure as a result of repeated access from a part of the world that is significantly different from the region the account has been registered to."
I guess its definately the end of the road, well they just lost a used to be loyal Blizzard fan.
Quite honestly, you should be fired from your job for playing WoW when you were being paid to work. Would you be posting here if that happened about how unfair THAT was too?
Either
A) Your a really shitty network engineer
You work for a company that rents out single servers to anyone (which I understand since I used to work for a company like this and it was hard work)
C) Your 12 years old and have no idea what your talking about.
If you say so chief. When you are old and gray and still sitting in front of monitors staring at line graphs for hours on end, and realize you have gotten nowhere in life, you might understand what I'm talking about. Until then, enjoy your "job".
Quite honestly, you should be fired from your job for playing WoW when you were being paid to work. Would you be posting here if that happened about how unfair THAT was too?
Either
A) Your a really shitty network engineer
You work for a company that rents out single servers to anyone (which I understand since I used to work for a company like this and it was hard work)
C) Your 12 years old and have no idea what your talking about.
Dude come on. Are you seriously trying to sit here and tell people that companies normally allow poeple to play video games while they are working? Mabye if your company was doing some research on WoW or debugging the game or something. You even said you were suppose to be monitoring networks. Kinda difficult to do that while you are in a 4hr raid and on a boss mob. Even if you had your immediate supervisor tell you it was ok. I guarantee you, that if your president or its board members walked in and saw you playing a video game while you were suppose to be working that you would be fired. Do you not have anything else to do at work? If you have so much extra time, maybe you should write a report? Do some additional analysis? Put some ideas on the table to help the company? Who knows maybe you could even get a raise or promotion for that.
Also so you know, its funny that the guy said some companies will fire people for playing Freecell. Why that is funny to me is because I have personally fired an employee for doing EXACTLY that. I have also fired an employee who had ICQ up on thier computer and was instant messaging people while they were suppose to be working.
Is it possible he was banned for breaking laws in china restricting number of hours of game play? Or possibly other laws as well? He may be an U.S. citizen but while in china he is subject to there laws unless he is in an embassy.
Originally posted by lobes *shrug* Call it what you will. If you even have Freecell up on your computer where I work, you'll be canned, no matter who you are. Perhaps "down under" the rules are different. I would think you are old enough to know better. Guess not.
I agree with your message. It's the sentiment that's sanctimonious. And I'm self-employed, so yeah, my rules are different. It's nice to be me, isn't it?
Are you seriously trying to sit here and tell people that companies normally allow poeple to play video games while they are working? Mabye if your company was doing some research on WoW or debugging the game or something. You even said you were suppose to be monitoring networks. Kinda difficult to do that while you are in a 4hr raid and on a boss mob.
I get to "play" at work, and a decent percentage of my week. Jeez, I wish WoW had gotten the "every company must jump in here" media blitz Second Life has in the past three or four months. It's like a game with all the game sucked out and more stupid perverts per virtual acre than Runescape.
FWIW and BTW, one of my best writing and playing buddies is an oil worker who spends most of the year on remote sites and whose job is roughly analogous to network administration--he spends his shifts watching crap on monitors and anticipating when tools and machinery are going to break down and need repair or replacement. He also plays games and writes stories during his shift, and the company doesn't have any problem with that, because otherwise, he'd be sitting and going out of his mind with boredom and missing his family most of the time. If you're going to party with the guy in a game, you just have to understand that periodically he may suddenly go "Tool just broke" and be AFK for the next fifteen or twenty minutes, and that's the way it goes.
Originally posted by lobes Quite honestly, you should be fired from your job for playing WoW when you were being paid to work. Would you be posting here if that happened about how unfair THAT was too?
Either A) Your a really shitty network engineer You work for a company that rents out single servers to anyone (which I understand since I used to work for a company like this and it was hard work) C) Your 12 years old and have no idea what your talking about.
Dude come on. Are you seriously trying to sit here and tell people that companies normally allow poeple to play video games while they are working? Mabye if your company was doing some research on WoW or debugging the game or something. You even said you were suppose to be monitoring networks. Kinda difficult to do that while you are in a 4hr raid and on a boss mob. Even if you had your immediate supervisor tell you it was ok. I guarantee you, that if your president or its board members walked in and saw you playing a video game while you were suppose to be working that you would be fired. Do you not have anything else to do at work? If you have so much extra time, maybe you should write a report? Do some additional analysis? Put some ideas on the table to help the company? Who knows maybe you could even get a raise or promotion for that. Also so you know, its funny that the guy said some companies will fire people for playing Freecell. Why that is funny to me is because I have personally fired an employee for doing EXACTLY that. I have also fired an employee who had ICQ up on thier computer and was instant messaging people while they were suppose to be working.
I guess someone never had a job as a night security guard. The qualifications for it are sit in a chair for eight hours, watch monitors for eight hours,make a round whenever you need to visit the men's room, and sleep lol. Almost forgot to add eating donuts lol.
Dude come on. Are you seriously trying to sit here and tell people that companies normally allow poeple to play video games while they are working?
Apparently some do...
You even said you were suppose to be monitoring networks. Kinda difficult to do that while you are in a 4hr raid and on a boss mob.
Yes because if you monitor networks you have to watch every single TCP packet.
Even if you had your immediate supervisor tell you it was ok. I guarantee you, that if your president or its board members walked in and saw you playing a video game while you were suppose to be working that you would be fired.
Luckily you are nowhere near such a position to even give and educated guess.
Do you not have anything else to do at work? If you have so much extra time, maybe you should write a report? Do some additional analysis? Put some ideas on the table to help the company?
AKA: Appear busy while doing nothing.
Why that is funny to me is because I have personally fired an employee for doing EXACTLY that.
No, you didnt.
I have also fired an employee who had ICQ up on thier computer and was instant messaging people while they were suppose to be working.
Neither did you do that.
Nice try anyway... Too bad you are just an immature little troll.
So, feeding time is over.
@ lobes : If you would have actually read the posts of the OP you would have noticed that his boss tried to help him getting back his account.
Got nothing to do with segregation its blizzard comply to chinese law in the restriction of mmo times. Doing otherwise might get them kicked from china and lose a chunk of thier income they would be crazy not to.
FYI Blizzard doesnt operate in China, instead they license the the server and client software to a local company called The9. The income they make from this deal is tiny compared to what they make elsewhere in the world.
Also so you know, its funny that the guy said some companies will fire people for playing Freecell. Why that is funny to me is because I have personally fired an employee for doing EXACTLY that. I have also fired an employee who had ICQ up on thier computer and was instant messaging people while they were suppose to be working.
Wow talk about a recipe for an unhealthy work place leading to poor moral poor performance and poor productivity.
If you have a corporate policy on playing freecell then at least do it properly. Get some people who actually know how to manage your desktops and people will not be able to play freecell because it isnt there and they wont be able to install it because they dont have the rights.
Wow talk about a recipe for an unhealthy work place leading to poor moral poor performance and poor productivity. If you have a corporate policy on playing freecell then at least do it properly. Get some people who actually know how to manage your desktops and people will not be able to play freecell because it isn’t there and they won’t be able to install it because they don’t have the rights.
That works fine when you own and maintain the PCs. What about when you have consultants coming in-house to do work, and you catch them playing on their laptops instead of working? You have no control over what goes on/off their PCs.
you know its stuff like this that makes me want to quit mmo's, i'm sure they're just trying to cut down on farmers etc.. but if your a legitimate us citizen and your story checks out, they should unban you, otherwise i would keep petitioning it and be persistant about it, even get the BBB involved or an attorney.
As for Rod, before you go shouting your wrong im right. Think.
This has a lot of things to do with it. In china, it is againsed the law to play games like WoW for more than I beleive 4 hours. If he was in China, and he was chinese and playing 10 hours a day. Hes breaking the Law and Blizzard is facilitating it.
Thus, they would ban you for using an American copy (or european), to ensure your using a chinese copy of WoW ,which limits the amount of time your allowed to play each day.
So it is relivant... very relivant to the issue.
Sorry Munki I missed the post above so thats why I wrote that:
Originally posted by -Rodriguez-
Originally posted by Munki
due to a law in china.. please read the forum and know what your talking about before you post with such "strong" comments
Wait... You say that this rule set was created due to laws in china?
How do you know there is such a law? Do you remember the sources you got that from?
There are alot of people that think that way so I am curious.
I have friends in China and Hong Kong and was working there for 6 month myself. (just a practical semester at a university in Hong Kong, not real work )
I have also Chinese corp buddys in EVE.
Ok, the situation is like that as far as i know:
The Chinese government made a law against excessive internet gaming in Internet Cafe´s (They are more like "Internet Arcades" because they just play games there, not surfing the web )because it started to be a problem. People started to ditch school just to play there for hours without end. I am sure you guys know the story of a Korean who collapsed after ?40? hours of playing games. Well the government came up with the "cunning" idea of solving that problem by limiting the time people want to play these games. How did they do that?
They introduced a law that:
-after playing said games people start to gain less (mostly exp, not sure if its also gold or other drops)
-to make sure that people just dont ignore the law and play a different game every X hours they bind every account to your permanent ID.
To ensure that:
-people playing in internet cafes have to play on Chinese servers, because all others are blocked.
The OP didnt get a permanent ID (that would make him a Chinese citizen, very difficult to obtain that without marriage )
that means he cant be affected by this law.
That also means that any Chinese citizen can play games at home without any problems on any server of the world...
Think about it: On the otherhand people complain about power level services and gold farmers... How could that be possible if the law would affect everybody within the borders of china?
Disclaimer: I am not "pro Chinese Government", just because I react like I did. I just have a strong dislike of xenophobia, borderline racism or generally people dissing others because of rumors.
I hope you guys understand that.
PS: That doesnt mean you are anything of the above! The effects of this law are shrouded by rumors everywhere it seems...
I dont know about boxes sold outside of Europe buy my box on the back says "For use on european servers only". nuff said IMHO. But Blizz should of issued a 1 time warning not an instant ban, or made the change to the TOS more noticable.
Blizz stealth buffed their TOS and some people got 1 shooted.
I mean how many ppl read the TOS eveytime b4 they login.
Also so you know, its funny that the guy said some companies will fire people for playing Freecell. Why that is funny to me is because I have personally fired an employee for doing EXACTLY that. I have also fired an employee who had ICQ up on thier computer and was instant messaging people while they were suppose to be working.
Wow talk about a recipe for an unhealthy work place leading to poor moral poor performance and poor productivity.
If you have a corporate policy on playing freecell then at least do it properly. Get some people who actually know how to manage your desktops and people will not be able to play freecell because it isn’t there and they won’t be able to install it because they don’t have the rights.
Well first off, the freecell incident happened 7yrs ago, ICQ incident goes back to about that same period. Funny after that we havent had a problem with those programs. As far as your network policy. To some degree thats true, but you cannot monitor your people 24/7 in everything. There are sooo many ways for people to goof off. Cell phones, phone calls, laptops ........ I think you are missing the point.
There is a huge difference between people doing these things and not getting caught and being allowed via a corporate policy, whether its verbal or written. I am sure you could find people to say they stole office supplies from work, that they sleep while they are suppose to be working. That they talk to friends and family all day at work ..... and every other million ways people slack off. That doesnt mean its allowed. Which is why I included being caught by an executive, the reason being that executives tend to know and enforce rules. Its possible to find some slack low level manager, that lets people be unproductive.
@ the person who said security being allowed to play WoW while on duty. I call BS again that you are allowed to play WoW and sleep while on post/duty. You just said you were suppose to monitor and do rounds. Kinda hard to watch a monitor whlie you are asleep. Or are you saying you are playing while you are not actually on your shift? Because thats a huge difference. That would be like someone in the military who is techinically away from home and on call 24/7 not being allowed to have some off time. But I know that when they are on a post/shift, sleeping, playing games .... or anything else distracting is not allowed.
Honestly with all these people thinking they can do this dumb stuff while at work. Ever wonder why you are at the bottom of the ladder? Guess you need to evaluate yourself? Playing a stupid video game at work is more important then making a 6+ figure salary?
Frankly some companies should INCLUDE wow or a game of choice for some positions, network supervisor is one of them, as is any job were the only thing you are doing is going slowly mad.
Friend of mine is working at a nuclear power plant just watching for something to go wrong, wich it does like once a year, if that. There is more to it then that of course but none the less.
( Essentially he has Homer Simpsons job, a thing we remind him of as often as possible, hehe. )
When they hired him they even said, "Hope you enjoy reading books because this job has a LOT of downtime", I do not see the difference between playing a game and reading a book.
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play city of heroes now. it's a fun game.
-has a bad human rights record
-has weapons of mass destruction
-has amoral leaders
-is selling weapons to questionable groups
-is oppressing freedom and liberty for their own citizens
But lets get not political here shall we?
That is so freaking stupid. I swear sometimes I hate MMO's and their respected companies. due to a law in china.. please read the forum and know what your talking about before you post with such "strong" comments
Wait... You say that this rule set was created due to laws in china?
sanctimonious adjective- excessively or hypocritically pious; "a sickening sanctimonious smile", feigning piety or righteousness.
*shrug* Call it what you will. If you even have Freecell up on your computer where I work, you'll be canned, no matter who you are. Perhaps "down under" the rules are different. I would think you are old enough to know better. Guess not.
we all know your a gold farmer .... gold farmers need too be banned soo with that said
ALL HAIL BANNED GOLD FARMER!!!!!
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-Currently playing FFXIV, and BDO.
I read the rule but does anyone know if this person has a case or not? The way I figured it, once you sign the agreement you are SOL. But let's say I make a game and in the agreement I say NO CHINESE IPS. Am I being biased? I see this as a form of segregation if you will. It's like having a seperate bathroom for whites and blacks. Except this is like having a seperate game for Chinese and Americans. Really, is the gold farming that big of a deal? I know of many people who have bought golds (in the 10s of thousands). None of them are banned. I don't understand the logic behind this.
Got nothing to do with segregation its blizzard comply to chinese law in the restriction of mmo times. Doing otherwise might get them kicked from china and lose a chunk of thier income they would be crazy not to. The main probs with plat farming is for companies its a copyright infringement on their creative rights. That someone is making profit off of them and from a player stand point they are seen as inflatting the economy and its much easy to ban the fellows that sell it than those who buy it.
Either
A) Your a really shitty network engineer
C) Your company is very strict and I understand this
D) Your 12 years old and have no idea what your talking about.
And a follow up, I contacted Blizzard, via phone and email. Over the phone they told me they could not do anything and that I had to email the account admin, I asked to speak with a manager or someone in charge but they said I had to email. I sent an email and within 30-45 minutes I got an email back saying the same thing I have always gotten. "
This account has been issued a closure as a result of repeated access from a part of the world that is significantly different from the region the account has been registered to."
I guess its definately the end of the road, well they just lost a used to be loyal Blizzard fan.
Either
A) Your a really shitty network engineer
C) Your 12 years old and have no idea what your talking about.
If you say so chief. When you are old and gray and still sitting in front of monitors staring at line graphs for hours on end, and realize you have gotten nowhere in life, you might understand what I'm talking about. Until then, enjoy your "job".
Either
A) Your a really shitty network engineer
C) Your 12 years old and have no idea what your talking about.
Dude come on. Are you seriously trying to sit here and tell people that companies normally allow poeple to play video games while they are working? Mabye if your company was doing some research on WoW or debugging the game or something. You even said you were suppose to be monitoring networks. Kinda difficult to do that while you are in a 4hr raid and on a boss mob. Even if you had your immediate supervisor tell you it was ok. I guarantee you, that if your president or its board members walked in and saw you playing a video game while you were suppose to be working that you would be fired. Do you not have anything else to do at work? If you have so much extra time, maybe you should write a report? Do some additional analysis? Put some ideas on the table to help the company? Who knows maybe you could even get a raise or promotion for that.
Also so you know, its funny that the guy said some companies will fire people for playing Freecell. Why that is funny to me is because I have personally fired an employee for doing EXACTLY that. I have also fired an employee who had ICQ up on thier computer and was instant messaging people while they were suppose to be working.
I agree with your message. It's the sentiment that's sanctimonious. And I'm self-employed, so yeah, my rules are different. It's nice to be me, isn't it?
FWIW and BTW, one of my best writing and playing buddies is an oil worker who spends most of the year on remote sites and whose job is roughly analogous to network administration--he spends his shifts watching crap on monitors and anticipating when tools and machinery are going to break down and need repair or replacement. He also plays games and writes stories during his shift, and the company doesn't have any problem with that, because otherwise, he'd be sitting and going out of his mind with boredom and missing his family most of the time. If you're going to party with the guy in a game, you just have to understand that periodically he may suddenly go "Tool just broke" and be AFK for the next fifteen or twenty minutes, and that's the way it goes.
Yes because if you monitor networks you have to watch every single TCP packet.
Luckily you are nowhere near such a position to even give and educated guess.
AKA: Appear busy while doing nothing.
No, you didnt.
Neither did you do that.
Nice try anyway... Too bad you are just an immature little troll.
So, feeding time is over.
@ lobes : If you would have actually read the posts of the OP you would have noticed that his boss tried to help him getting back his account.
FYI Blizzard doesnt operate in China, instead they license the the server and client software to a local company called The9. The income they make from this deal is tiny compared to what they make elsewhere in the world.
Wow talk about a recipe for an unhealthy work place leading to poor moral poor performance and poor productivity.
If you have a corporate policy on playing freecell then at least do it properly. Get some people who actually know how to manage your desktops and people will not be able to play freecell because it isnt there and they wont be able to install it because they dont have the rights.
you know its stuff like this that makes me want to quit mmo's, i'm sure they're just trying to cut down on farmers etc.. but if your a legitimate us citizen and your story checks out, they should unban you, otherwise i would keep petitioning it and be persistant about it, even get the BBB involved or an attorney.
Gelasius
How do you know there is such a law? Do you remember the sources you got that from?
There are alot of people that think that way so I am curious.
I have friends in China and Hong Kong and was working there for 6 month myself. (just a practical semester at a university in Hong Kong, not real work
I have also Chinese corp buddys in EVE.
Ok, the situation is like that as far as i know:
The Chinese government made a law against excessive internet gaming in Internet Cafe´s (They are more like "Internet Arcades" because they just play games there, not surfing the web
They introduced a law that:
-after playing said games people start to gain less (mostly exp, not sure if its also gold or other drops)
-to make sure that people just dont ignore the law and play a different game every X hours they bind every account to your permanent ID.
To ensure that:
-people playing in internet cafes have to play on Chinese servers, because all others are blocked.
The OP didnt get a permanent ID (that would make him a Chinese citizen, very difficult to obtain that without marriage
that means he cant be affected by this law.
That also means that any Chinese citizen can play games at home without any problems on any server of the world...
Think about it: On the otherhand people complain about power level services and gold farmers... How could that be possible if the law would affect everybody within the borders of china?
Disclaimer: I am not "pro Chinese Government", just because I react like I did. I just have a strong dislike of xenophobia, borderline racism or generally people dissing others because of rumors.
I hope you guys understand that.
PS: That doesnt mean you are anything of the above! The effects of this law are shrouded by rumors everywhere it seems...
Blizz stealth buffed their TOS and some people got 1 shooted.
I mean how many ppl read the TOS eveytime b4 they login.
Wow talk about a recipe for an unhealthy work place leading to poor moral poor performance and poor productivity.
If you have a corporate policy on playing freecell then at least do it properly. Get some people who actually know how to manage your desktops and people will not be able to play freecell because it isn’t there and they won’t be able to install it because they don’t have the rights.
Well first off, the freecell incident happened 7yrs ago, ICQ incident goes back to about that same period. Funny after that we havent had a problem with those programs. As far as your network policy. To some degree thats true, but you cannot monitor your people 24/7 in everything. There are sooo many ways for people to goof off. Cell phones, phone calls, laptops ........ I think you are missing the point.
There is a huge difference between people doing these things and not getting caught and being allowed via a corporate policy, whether its verbal or written. I am sure you could find people to say they stole office supplies from work, that they sleep while they are suppose to be working. That they talk to friends and family all day at work ..... and every other million ways people slack off. That doesnt mean its allowed. Which is why I included being caught by an executive, the reason being that executives tend to know and enforce rules. Its possible to find some slack low level manager, that lets people be unproductive.
@ the person who said security being allowed to play WoW while on duty. I call BS again that you are allowed to play WoW and sleep while on post/duty. You just said you were suppose to monitor and do rounds. Kinda hard to watch a monitor whlie you are asleep. Or are you saying you are playing while you are not actually on your shift? Because thats a huge difference. That would be like someone in the military who is techinically away from home and on call 24/7 not being allowed to have some off time. But I know that when they are on a post/shift, sleeping, playing games .... or anything else distracting is not allowed.
Honestly with all these people thinking they can do this dumb stuff while at work. Ever wonder why you are at the bottom of the ladder? Guess you need to evaluate yourself? Playing a stupid video game at work is more important then making a 6+ figure salary?
This thread has somewhat shifted, but ill bite.
Frankly some companies should INCLUDE wow or a game of choice for some positions, network supervisor is one of them, as is any job were the only thing you are doing is going slowly mad.
Friend of mine is working at a nuclear power plant just watching for something to go wrong, wich it does like once a year, if that. There is more to it then that of course but none the less.
( Essentially he has Homer Simpsons job, a thing we remind him of as often as possible, hehe. )
When they hired him they even said, "Hope you enjoy reading books because this job has a LOT of downtime", I do not see the difference between playing a game and reading a book.
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I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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