ONLY problem with that lidane is... the community in game is a MILLION TRILLION time better than the community here.
In order to find out if you're right or wrong, I'd have to re-install and play a game that I think is at least six months away from being polished. Sorry, but that's not going to happen. I'll wait at least six months, if not longer, before I re-install.
I'll take my chances and wait a few months. The only thing I lose is time, so I'm perfectly content to wait for the game.
Some of the people who claim to like the game spend an awful lot of time flaming people who don't like the game on this forum instead of playing it. I wonder why that is? If the game is so perfect then why are you not playing it instead of bashing people who write about their problems with it?
I love how many *I'm against this game for this reason* posts are filled with tons of grammatical errors. Not to mention, punctuation, spelling, capitalization, etc.....What is becoming of the english language?
Why? That's because USA is trying to establish English as one world language, just like the times during the Towel of Babel. Granted, I don't have perfect English because it's my second language, but I need it to communicate with the monkies like you.
If you watch the moviue "Babel" on DVD or on theather, then you would understand why it's impossible for US to implement English as one would language, just think for a second:
USA AGENDA:
1. One world government system (UN & EU etc etc... its coming).
2. One would religion (catholic, its coming - blue laws anyone?).
3. One world language (Like all grammer nerds bitching about it right now..).
4. One would financial system (Mark of the Beast? Read the bible...)
Towel of Babel? What did they try to do? Wash god or something ( sorry for immature post, just couldn't stop myself :-) )
Yes, it's very, very immature and useless post. Secondly, God scattered his people into different races and languages so it would make it impossible for them to communicate one language - clever egh? That must have pissed Satan off, wasn't a good idea.
Not to mention, "...after playing for a bit..." Instant credibility.
That is always a favorite of mine.....
Alright fellas, then riddle me this.... How long does one have to play to know the game isn't to their liking?
I can listen to a song and in less than ten seconds I know I don't like...
I can watch a TV show and in less then two minutes know I don't like...
I can start a book and in less than a chapter I know it won't hold my interest...
And I know the same holds true for most people.
So this crap about "give it time it will grow on ya" is just BS In a world full of "NOW! NOW! NOW!" kids, I guess your reasoning is sane. There are however those of us that like challenge and have patience.
I love how many *I'm against this game for this reason* posts are filled with tons of grammatical errors. Not to mention, punctuation, spelling, capitalization, etc.....What is becoming of the english language?
Why? That's because USA is trying to establish English as one world language, just like the times during the Towel of Babel. Granted, I don't have perfect English because it's my second language, but I need it to communicate with the monkies like you.
If you watch the moviue "Babel" on DVD or on theather, then you would understand why it's impossible for US to implement English as one would language, just think for a second:
USA AGENDA:
1. One world government system (UN & EU etc etc... its coming).
2. One would religion (catholic, its coming - blue laws anyone?).
3. One world language (Like all grammer nerds bitching about it right now..).
4. One would financial system (Mark of the Beast? Read the bible...)
Hey wackjob, wrong forum! I think the Religion and Politics Board is on another site.
I love how many *I'm against this game for this reason* posts are filled with tons of grammatical errors. Not to mention, punctuation, spelling, capitalization, etc.....What is becoming of the english language?
Why? That's because USA is trying to establish English as one world language, just like the times during the Towel of Babel. Granted, I don't have perfect English because it's my second language, but I need it to communicate with the monkies like you.
If you watch the moviue "Babel" on DVD or on theather, then you would understand why it's impossible for US to implement English as one would language, just think for a second:
USA AGENDA:
1. One world government system (UN & EU etc etc... its coming).
2. One would religion (catholic, its coming - blue laws anyone?).
3. One world language (Like all grammer nerds bitching about it right now..).
4. One would financial system (Mark of the Beast? Read the bible...)
Hey wackjob, wrong forum! I think the Religion and Politics Board is on another site. Besides, he clearly missed how the British basically did the same thing. Also, his post to me is flawed since he talks about a fictional being as if it were real.
I love how many *I'm against this game for this reason* posts are filled with tons of grammatical errors. Not to mention, punctuation, spelling, capitalization, etc.....What is becoming of the english language?
Why? That's because USA is trying to establish English as one world language, just like the times during the Towel of Babel. Granted, I don't have perfect English because it's my second language, but I need it to communicate with the monkies like you.
If you watch the moviue "Babel" on DVD or on theather, then you would understand why it's impossible for US to implement English as one would language, just think for a second:
USA AGENDA:
1. One world government system (UN & EU etc etc... its coming).
2. One would religion (catholic, its coming - blue laws anyone?).
3. One world language (Like all grammer nerds bitching about it right now..).
4. One would financial system (Mark of the Beast? Read the bible...)
Take your bible thumping someplace else, I find it offensive.
I am having a blast in this game, it is true that the mobs will bug a little, and it is being taking into account by the devs, but they only disappear for a few seconds and this doesnt happen in every fight, at least not for me, the diplomacy rocks, im not sure why it is addicting, but i started on diplomacy and it is hard to drag myself away from them, it is different i guess, I too am running on high performance, it runs smooth like that for me, i am in the market for a new card and been shopping around for one, cant wait to be able to crank this game to a higher setting, it is pretty.
To return to the OP's argument. I think that so many of us are disappointed because we were promised something different than what was delivered. I am by no means a new comer to MMOs and know that patching and correcting post launch is critical to the game development. But even EQ1 was more playable than Vanguard is in its current state (and yes I was there).
I have been playing Vanguard since Beta 3 and I have uninstalled and reinstalled the game out of disgust and intrigue to see if they fixed the game. Sigil never did. I have not brought the game and dont know if I will. I remeber in beta that many of us posted our concerns to deaf ears.
I know that MMOs are a business and that pushing product to launch is important but Sigil should have taken a note from the blizzard playbook and scaled down the game and fine tuned it. Sigil could have added more races and content via patches, paid content addon, or expansions.
I can only lament what could have been the new 3rd generation MMo but I have to wait to see if Conan is it. I really wanted Vanguard to be better than it was, and there is a part of me that hopes that it can still be.
Not to mention, "...after playing for a bit..." Instant credibility.
That is always a favorite of mine.....
Alright fellas, then riddle me this.... How long does one have to play to know the game isn't to their liking?
I can listen to a song and in less than ten seconds I know I don't like...
I can watch a TV show and in less then two minutes know I don't like...
I can start a book and in less than a chapter I know it won't hold my interest...
And I know the same holds true for most people.
So this crap about "give it time it will grow on ya" is just BS In a world full of "NOW! NOW! NOW!" kids, I guess your reasoning is sane. There are however those of us that like challenge and have patience.
I respect your perspective and opinion. And I completely concur with your view about the Veruca Salt "I want it NOW" syndrome with the younger generation. I was however making a somewhat exaggerated statement to the "give it time" argument people are making. I mean at what point does one say "ya know this isn't my cup of tea"?
To further illustrate and exaggerate my point would be to take a Wiffleball Bat and whack you in the forehead. You're gonna know pretty damn fast you don't like it. The same can hold true for people and this game.
I personally like VG and have a three month sub as we speak. The game however, clearly needs work and no one can argue that. But I for one will give Sigil the benefit of the doubt and wait out my sub. If I don't see improvements after that, then that's when my patience runs out and I move on to greener pastures. The fanboys at that point can wait out the 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, 5 years etc. etc. and keep telling themselves.... "wait give it time, it will grow on you".
How many games have "grown on you" when you gave them an extended chance to show you their hidden magic?
For me, and for many of the long-time howlers in this forum, the answer is very freakin' few. If I'm told that I have to wait till, say, level 10 for the game to become interesting, BAM! right then and there I know the game will suck. This has been my experience playing games for the past 10 years. It is very hard to imagine that Vanguard would be the exception to this rule of personal experience. And, to be cruely honest, most of the guys who tell you "just give it a chance" are idiots, and what tickles their pickle about a game would make me fall asleep.
" But, dude, Sigil's gonna tweak the game and you can download updates, and shit..." Yeah, heard that before, like, a million times. Another one of my personal experience rules is that this miracle almost never happens as advertised, you always get a lot less than the game needs to justify your monthly subscription payment.
The OP's comments seem very balanced. I am glad he posted them.
And, despite all of that, I'm going to buy this game and try it because it is popular but sounds like a real POS. Once I play it a while I'll be able to come back to this forum and complain about the game for months if it turns out to be crap. If it turns out to be a diamond in the rough, I'll be happy to say so, too. But, my point is, those players that tell you to wait and the game will get better are almost always wrong. And, almost always idiots.
So OP comes in here and rants about the game (not any player) but still all the vanboys attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of VANGUARD community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this game. What a fuccked up community. I say squash Vanboys not bugs if you want to save this game.
I'm going to kick every vanboi in the nads, they won't like it at first, but if they give it until the 10th time i do it, it'll grow on them, thats when the real pai...fun begins..honest!
I mean seriously, if people don't have the patience to at least try being kicked in the nads a dozen times, then they are just silly kids! pmsl
So OP comes in here and rants about the game (not any player) but still all the vanboys attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of VANGUARD community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this game. What a fuccked up community. I say squash Vanboys not bugs if you want to save this game.
You know..if I swapped "Vanboy" with "Hater", "rant" with "praise" in your statement and "Vanguard" with "MMORPG". Here, let me show you.
So OP comes in here and praises the game (not any player) but still all the haters attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of MMORPG community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this board. What a fuccked up community. I say squash haters not bugs if you want to save this board.
I'm going to kick every vanboi in the nads, they won't like it at first, but if they give it until the 10th time i do it, it'll grow on them, thats when the real pai...fun begins..honest! I mean seriously, if people don't have the patience to at least try being kicked in the nads a dozen times, then they are just silly kids! pmsl
well after playing for a bit . i must say this is actually the worst mmorpg i ve ever played and that includes some to the free to play ones . its horrible. the control system is all over the place . you feel like your fighting to keep your character moving in the directon you want him or her to go . combat really is inconsistant . the game is bugged to hell . monsters have a tendancy to disapear when your fighting them . the in game graphics are ok but even with my high spec pc i have to run everything on highest performance mode which makes the game look arwful and its still jerky . the character animation is static and akin to the kind of thing you get in some of the free play games like silk road . its like an open beta having said that i ve played better open betas . its brocken unfinnished and unpolished and it would have been better if it had never been released . i feel ripped off . what a shame it had such potential too . . i dont know why anyone would post anything possative about this game unless they had a vested interest in it . SAVE YOU HARD EARNED BUCKS GIVE IT A MISS .
I feel the exact same
i purchased vanguard by digital download 2 days ago and my experiance has been awfull
the character creation was a complete and utter lie *no two characters will look the same* there is practicly no customization!
i mean literaly the only race that looked halfway decent was the orc race all the other looks like rubber ken dolls.
Then i MANAGED to make a character yes managed ! it was choppy the sliders could hardly be moved the model kept disapearing or flickering, THERE IS NO CHAR CUSTOMIZATION . at least not what they would have you beleave.
Then when i got in game what a let down laggy as hell i couldnt even play with the graphics set to normal (and i can play eq2 with everything cranked up) The animations were bland and not very well done basicly this game is a load of crap dont touch it !
Dont do what i done which was *i fell for the fanboy lies*
So OP comes in here and rants about the game (not any player) but still all the vanboys attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of VANGUARD community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this game. What a fuccked up community. I say squash Vanboys not bugs if you want to save this game.
You know..if I swapped "Vanboy" with "Hater", "rant" with "praise" in your statement and "Vanguard" with "MMORPG". Here, let me show you.
So OP comes in here and praises the game (not any player) but still all the haters attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of MMORPG community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this board. What a fuccked up community. I say squash haters not bugs if you want to save this board.
Replace whatever you want but you can't change the fact that his rant was limited only to the game. He wasn't calling any players name or disrespecting anyone who plays Van. But all the Vanboys attacked him PERSONALY..got my point? Its Vanboys who resort to personal attacks as if someone abused there mom. And i have been to many many fansites including the VG official boards to confirm what i am saying. And mmorpg.com is not any different and even worse then the other sites. What an immature community.
Originally posted by beezee Originally posted by Vegetto I'm going to kick every vanboi in the nads, they won't like it at first, but if they give it until the 10th time i do it, it'll grow on them, thats when the real pai...fun begins..honest! I mean seriously, if people don't have the patience to at least try being kicked in the nads a dozen times, then they are just silly kids! pmsl
LOL! That my friend is funny!
Ironically i think the game would be ok for me, but the community is so elitist and fanboish, it makes even the EvE community look like pacifists. Me being a group player, who likes interacting with the community (i play multiplayer games purely for this), this justifies me not touching it, regardless of the games graphical prowess.
So OP comes in here and rants about the game (not any player) but still all the vanboys attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of VANGUARD community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this game. What a fuccked up community. I say squash Vanboys not bugs if you want to save this game.
You know..if I swapped "Vanboy" with "Hater", "rant" with "praise" in your statement and "Vanguard" with "MMORPG". Here, let me show you.
So OP comes in here and praises the game (not any player) but still all the haters attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of MMORPG community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this board. What a fuccked up community. I say squash haters not bugs if you want to save this board.
Replace whatever you want but you can't change the fact that his rant was limited only to the game. He wasn't calling any players name or disrespecting anyone who plays Van. But all the Vanboys attacked him PERSONALY..got my point? Its Vanboys who resort to personal attacks as if someone abused there mom. And i have been to many many fansites including the VG official boards to confirm what i am saying. And mmorpg.com is not any different and even worse then the other sites. What an immature community.
Actually, I'd say it's purely limited to these boards...
I see a lot of people bashing the original poster of this thread. I think primarily the poster is being bashed due to his or her lack of eloquence or diplomacy. I do believe in one human personality trait that is shared by many cultures, people of many different ages, and of different gender. When we feel something we value is threatened we attack, we take action . This maybe be a primal instinctual reaction. One must be very careful in our actions, our mannerisms because, although it may deeply hurt one to hear a "truth" that is counter to what one wants to hear, it does not change the situation. Please keep in mind I stated in the prior sentance "a" "truth" I did not say "the truth". What one perceives to be that "truth" basically is what one perceives. However, keep in mind. I personally think hardware requirements that the current game code opitimizations support is a grave and serious error on the part of the people in charge. So serious and grave that there may be a question that can be raised as to the viability of the game to survive long enough for the current average computers specifications to catch up to the games computer requirements. It may take a year or so for the average computer owned by the average gamer catch up to the specification needed for the game. Honestly I dont have a strong desire to see the game fail or succeed. Its a very nice game but I have always preferred the type of games that did not force one to choose a path and specialize in one area at the same time closing off all other areas not taken. I supposed one can make a new character and start over. Arguments will always be made about "realistic" or how realistic a game mechanic is compared to real life I suppose. I guess in real life one can not be a great wizard, a great cleric, a great warrior, a great bard all in one lifetime as one person.
Anyway, I guess time will reveal to us "The Truth". Was the decisions the right decisions? Was the game a good game? Time immortal will be its judge. Not us.
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What is your physical limit?
I'll take my chances and wait a few months. The only thing I lose is time, so I'm perfectly content to wait for the game.
I've always been of the opinion that you should try a game for yourself rather then let someone else make your decisions for you.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Why? That's because USA is trying to establish English as one world language, just like the times during the Towel of Babel. Granted, I don't have perfect English because it's my second language, but I need it to communicate with the monkies like you.
If you watch the moviue "Babel" on DVD or on theather, then you would understand why it's impossible for US to implement English as one would language, just think for a second:
USA AGENDA:
1. One world government system (UN & EU etc etc... its coming).
2. One would religion (catholic, its coming - blue laws anyone?).
3. One world language (Like all grammer nerds bitching about it right now..).
4. One would financial system (Mark of the Beast? Read the bible...)
Towel of Babel? What did they try to do? Wash god or something ( sorry for immature post, just couldn't stop myself :-) )
That is always a favorite of mine.....
Alright fellas, then riddle me this.... How long does one have to play to know the game isn't to their liking?
I can listen to a song and in less than ten seconds I know I don't like...
I can watch a TV show and in less then two minutes know I don't like...
I can start a book and in less than a chapter I know it won't hold my interest...
And I know the same holds true for most people.
So this crap about "give it time it will grow on ya" is just BS In a world full of "NOW! NOW! NOW!" kids, I guess your reasoning is sane. There are however those of us that like challenge and have patience.
Why? That's because USA is trying to establish English as one world language, just like the times during the Towel of Babel. Granted, I don't have perfect English because it's my second language, but I need it to communicate with the monkies like you.
If you watch the moviue "Babel" on DVD or on theather, then you would understand why it's impossible for US to implement English as one would language, just think for a second:
USA AGENDA:
1. One world government system (UN & EU etc etc... its coming).
2. One would religion (catholic, its coming - blue laws anyone?).
3. One world language (Like all grammer nerds bitching about it right now..).
4. One would financial system (Mark of the Beast? Read the bible...)
Hey wackjob, wrong forum! I think the Religion and Politics Board is on another site.
Why? That's because USA is trying to establish English as one world language, just like the times during the Towel of Babel. Granted, I don't have perfect English because it's my second language, but I need it to communicate with the monkies like you.
If you watch the moviue "Babel" on DVD or on theather, then you would understand why it's impossible for US to implement English as one would language, just think for a second:
USA AGENDA:
1. One world government system (UN & EU etc etc... its coming).
2. One would religion (catholic, its coming - blue laws anyone?).
3. One world language (Like all grammer nerds bitching about it right now..).
4. One would financial system (Mark of the Beast? Read the bible...)
Hey wackjob, wrong forum! I think the Religion and Politics Board is on another site. Besides, he clearly missed how the British basically did the same thing. Also, his post to me is flawed since he talks about a fictional being as if it were real.
Why? That's because USA is trying to establish English as one world language, just like the times during the Towel of Babel. Granted, I don't have perfect English because it's my second language, but I need it to communicate with the monkies like you.
If you watch the moviue "Babel" on DVD or on theather, then you would understand why it's impossible for US to implement English as one would language, just think for a second:
USA AGENDA:
1. One world government system (UN & EU etc etc... its coming).
2. One would religion (catholic, its coming - blue laws anyone?).
3. One world language (Like all grammer nerds bitching about it right now..).
4. One would financial system (Mark of the Beast? Read the bible...)
Take your bible thumping someplace else, I find it offensive.
I am having a blast in this game, it is true that the mobs will bug a little, and it is being taking into account by the devs, but they only disappear for a few seconds and this doesnt happen in every fight, at least not for me, the diplomacy rocks, im not sure why it is addicting, but i started on diplomacy and it is hard to drag myself away from them, it is different i guess, I too am running on high performance, it runs smooth like that for me, i am in the market for a new card and been shopping around for one, cant wait to be able to crank this game to a higher setting, it is pretty.
playing eq2 and two worlds
To return to the OP's argument. I think that so many of us are disappointed because we were promised something different than what was delivered. I am by no means a new comer to MMOs and know that patching and correcting post launch is critical to the game development. But even EQ1 was more playable than Vanguard is in its current state (and yes I was there).
I have been playing Vanguard since Beta 3 and I have uninstalled and reinstalled the game out of disgust and intrigue to see if they fixed the game. Sigil never did. I have not brought the game and dont know if I will. I remeber in beta that many of us posted our concerns to deaf ears.
I know that MMOs are a business and that pushing product to launch is important but Sigil should have taken a note from the blizzard playbook and scaled down the game and fine tuned it. Sigil could have added more races and content via patches, paid content addon, or expansions.
I can only lament what could have been the new 3rd generation MMo but I have to wait to see if Conan is it. I really wanted Vanguard to be better than it was, and there is a part of me that hopes that it can still be.
That is always a favorite of mine.....
Alright fellas, then riddle me this.... How long does one have to play to know the game isn't to their liking?
I can listen to a song and in less than ten seconds I know I don't like...
I can watch a TV show and in less then two minutes know I don't like...
I can start a book and in less than a chapter I know it won't hold my interest...
And I know the same holds true for most people.
So this crap about "give it time it will grow on ya" is just BS In a world full of "NOW! NOW! NOW!" kids, I guess your reasoning is sane. There are however those of us that like challenge and have patience.
I respect your perspective and opinion. And I completely concur with your view about the Veruca Salt "I want it NOW" syndrome with the younger generation. I was however making a somewhat exaggerated statement to the "give it time" argument people are making. I mean at what point does one say "ya know this isn't my cup of tea"?
To further illustrate and exaggerate my point would be to take a Wiffleball Bat and whack you in the forehead. You're gonna know pretty damn fast you don't like it. The same can hold true for people and this game.
I personally like VG and have a three month sub as we speak. The game however, clearly needs work and no one can argue that. But I for one will give Sigil the benefit of the doubt and wait out my sub. If I don't see improvements after that, then that's when my patience runs out and I move on to greener pastures. The fanboys at that point can wait out the 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, 5 years etc. etc. and keep telling themselves.... "wait give it time, it will grow on you".
How many games have "grown on you" when you gave them an extended chance to show you their hidden magic?
For me, and for many of the long-time howlers in this forum, the answer is very freakin' few. If I'm told that I have to wait till, say, level 10 for the game to become interesting, BAM! right then and there I know the game will suck. This has been my experience playing games for the past 10 years. It is very hard to imagine that Vanguard would be the exception to this rule of personal experience. And, to be cruely honest, most of the guys who tell you "just give it a chance" are idiots, and what tickles their pickle about a game would make me fall asleep.
" But, dude, Sigil's gonna tweak the game and you can download updates, and shit..."
Yeah, heard that before, like, a million times. Another one of my personal experience rules is that this miracle almost never happens as advertised, you always get a lot less than the game needs to justify your monthly subscription payment.
The OP's comments seem very balanced. I am glad he posted them.
And, despite all of that, I'm going to buy this game and try it because it is popular but sounds like a real POS. Once I play it a while I'll be able to come back to this forum and complain about the game for months if it turns out to be crap. If it turns out to be a diamond in the rough, I'll be happy to say so, too. But, my point is, those players that tell you to wait and the game will get better are almost always wrong. And, almost always idiots.
I'm going to kick every vanboi in the nads, they won't like it at first, but if they give it until the 10th time i do it, it'll grow on them, thats when the real pai...fun begins..honest!
I mean seriously, if people don't have the patience to at least try being kicked in the nads a dozen times, then they are just silly kids! pmsl
So OP comes in here and praises the game (not any player) but still all the haters attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of MMORPG community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this board. What a fuccked up community. I say squash haters not bugs if you want to save this board.
Lol, wow this discussion has really gotten out of hand from a few simple early posts. I apologize if I added to the strain. Out.
I feel the exact same
i purchased vanguard by digital download 2 days ago and my experiance has been awfull
the character creation was a complete and utter lie *no two characters will look the same* there is practicly no customization!
i mean literaly the only race that looked halfway decent was the orc race all the other looks like rubber ken dolls.
Then i MANAGED to make a character yes managed ! it was choppy the sliders could hardly be moved the model kept disapearing or flickering, THERE IS NO CHAR CUSTOMIZATION . at least not what they would have you beleave.
Then when i got in game what a let down laggy as hell i couldnt even play with the graphics set to normal (and i can play eq2 with everything cranked up) The animations were bland and not very well done basicly this game is a load of crap dont touch it !
Dont do what i done which was *i fell for the fanboy lies*
So OP comes in here and praises the game (not any player) but still all the haters attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of MMORPG community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this board. What a fuccked up community. I say squash haters not bugs if you want to save this board.
Replace whatever you want but you can't change the fact that his rant was limited only to the game. He wasn't calling any players name or disrespecting anyone who plays Van. But all the Vanboys attacked him PERSONALY..got my point? Its Vanboys who resort to personal attacks as if someone abused there mom. And i have been to many many fansites including the VG official boards to confirm what i am saying. And mmorpg.com is not any different and even worse then the other sites. What an immature community.
Ironically i think the game would be ok for me, but the community is so elitist and fanboish, it makes even the EvE community look like pacifists. Me being a group player, who likes interacting with the community (i play multiplayer games purely for this), this justifies me not touching it, regardless of the games graphical prowess.
So OP comes in here and praises the game (not any player) but still all the haters attack him? yeah so TYPICAL of MMORPG community. Way to go people. Keep it up. It's people like you who are doing real damage to this board. What a fuccked up community. I say squash haters not bugs if you want to save this board.
Replace whatever you want but you can't change the fact that his rant was limited only to the game. He wasn't calling any players name or disrespecting anyone who plays Van. But all the Vanboys attacked him PERSONALY..got my point? Its Vanboys who resort to personal attacks as if someone abused there mom. And i have been to many many fansites including the VG official boards to confirm what i am saying. And mmorpg.com is not any different and even worse then the other sites. What an immature community.
Actually, I'd say it's purely limited to these boards...
I see a lot of people bashing the original poster of this thread. I think primarily the poster is being bashed due to his or her lack of eloquence or diplomacy. I do believe in one human personality trait that is shared by many cultures, people of many different ages, and of different gender. When we feel something we value is threatened we attack, we take action . This maybe be a primal instinctual reaction. One must be very careful in our actions, our mannerisms because, although it may deeply hurt one to hear a "truth" that is counter to what one wants to hear, it does not change the situation. Please keep in mind I stated in the prior sentance "a" "truth" I did not say "the truth". What one perceives to be that "truth" basically is what one perceives. However, keep in mind. I personally think hardware requirements that the current game code opitimizations support is a grave and serious error on the part of the people in charge. So serious and grave that there may be a question that can be raised as to the viability of the game to survive long enough for the current average computers specifications to catch up to the games computer requirements. It may take a year or so for the average computer owned by the average gamer catch up to the specification needed for the game. Honestly I dont have a strong desire to see the game fail or succeed. Its a very nice game but I have always preferred the type of games that did not force one to choose a path and specialize in one area at the same time closing off all other areas not taken. I supposed one can make a new character and start over. Arguments will always be made about "realistic" or how realistic a game mechanic is compared to real life I suppose. I guess in real life one can not be a great wizard, a great cleric, a great warrior, a great bard all in one lifetime as one person.
Anyway, I guess time will reveal to us "The Truth". Was the decisions the right decisions? Was the game a good game? Time immortal will be its judge. Not us.