Whats so annoying are all these people who keep saying that the game has promise, but they themselves won't play it. Even people who bought the game won't play it until the game reaches a point inside of their own heads where they think, finally it is acceptable to play. Seriously, if the game shows promise, then play the god damn game. The developers as well as other players need support from people like you. Stop expecting perfection from an MMO, you just won't get it. All MMOs are works in progress (some more than others). We all know the game was released before its time, now get over it and play. People need to support a game like this, otherwise, expect WoW clones forever and ever (and I bet you'll be on some forum complaining about that too).
i ve been looking on some other forums . it really does seam that the specs are misleading for this game (lots of people are comenting on this). one person said you need a pc on a steroid to play it . another said he has played it on two similar pcs one plays it the other does nt . yet more say it wont play on thier systems when every other game thay have does without problem . the forums are full of people(lol perhaps they are all ignorant too eh ??) who have had issues with it . its getting a bad rep very quickly . there does seam to be a hard core of fanboys who are staunchly defending it but in general they ll say its got issues but it ll be great at some point in the future . i think we are starting to get a clear picture of vanguard and its not a good one .
i ve been looking on some other forums . it really does seam that the specs are misleading for this game (lots of people are comenting on this). one person said you need a pc on a steroid to play it . another said he has played it on two similar pcs one plays it the other does nt . yet more say it wont play on thier systems when every other game thay have does without problem . the forums are full of people(lol perhaps they are all ignorant too eh ??) who have had issues with it . its getting a bad rep very quickly . there does seam to be a hard core of fanboys who are staunchly defending it but in general they ll say its got issues but it ll be great at some point in the future . i think we are starting to get a clear picture of vanguard and its not a good one .
Ditto.
As the weeks and months roll on the "its gonna be the best MMO ever some day soon" argument is going to fly out the window. But who knows SGW kept that argument going until this very day and that game is a ghost town.
I dont have a uber pc, and i do play the game on a very low setting . But it runs fine at this setting and i have had alot of fun with this game to say not to buy it of that it sucks is just not true u mite not like it and there are some bugs but all games have this atleast every mmo i have played have had some kind of bugs play it or dont play it. but to post a blog that says dont buy it is kinda dumb when u didnt even give the game a real shot.
As long as VG treats casual/solo players as second-rate citizens, where you must do boring, repetitive grinding constantly to really get anywhere beyond level 10 as a solo/casual player, this game won't make a dent in WoW's population. (which is primarily a casual playerbase.) Pre 10 the game is fine, I enjoyed it. And the death penality...dear god. Its more complicated and harsh that it should be(Keep it Simple Stupid) but some people seem to like that. I'll never understand you but I'll try to respect you. Try to. It's so sad cause this game has the huge variety of class/races, character customization and the huge expansive world I've always wanted in a MMO but the crummy "grouping is always better then soloing" mentality just kills it for me totally. I don't wanna turn this into another casual vs. harcore debate but VG stated it was going to cater to all different playstyles. Why bother if they're so obviously in favour of groupers and doing a second-rate job with the more casual side of the game. I hope this changes, I really do ,and that they figure something to keep everyone happy to a good degree cause this game is so promising. >_< And please no one argue with "its an MMORPG you're supposed to play with groups" people play MMORPGs for a variety of reasons not necessarily to group. Sometimes I wonder if some of these devs have even figured it out yet.
I agree on the whole grouping thing just brcause it seems hard to find players that want to group there is a lil clic thing going on with the beta guilds if u aint a guild member then dont bother asking if they want to group they wont and that is sad for this game is very fun and u are some what forced to group hopefully this will get better with more and more players joining
Atm im playing vanguard in windows mode on a 19" montior, while watching a movie on a 8" monitor, while typing this in internet explorer. all on the same computer. I could probally put a few filesharers on as well with no problems. Vanguard is on balanced setting and im happy playing the game. the idea of vg been this majoy poor performer is getting silly.
Computers have alot of problems these days. With virus, worms, not defraging, bad memory, burning out. computers don't live forever. They ware out and get old.
You're right it is a conspiracy and its all about money. They do want to you upgrade. This is the way pc games have always been and always will. The question is would you still want to play a game with tekken 1 graphics? because thats what would of happened of they didnt make us upgrade.
You've lost me. Are you saying thats what you want? The whole idea that games developers are making you upgrade has more to do with capatlism, than communism. I use to like the idea of communism bet i've come to understand that it just doesn't work.
Originally posted by yayitsandy well theres always some idiot who always bungs up a lot of technobabble to defend some games poor performance even when i said given if you look at the required and recomened specs that a pc such as mine should play it quite well i think you ve proved my point . most people unless they are hard core gamers do not upgrade computers every six monts . they are like me they buy pcs for other functions and your essentially saying that these people ar nt in the vanguard demographic . ....so i guess using this logic no one whos recently brought a mid range peice of kit or someone who has a pc thats a year or two old really should nt even think of playing vanguard ( miminum specs aside ) ... you might not like it but you must admit i have more than a good point ..... its one of two things ... vanguards developers have aimed too high or the game just does nt run very well .
I'm *NOT* defending the performance. The games performance is absolute crap compared to ANYTHING else on the market. No questions asked.
However, you have NO way of knowing that with the video card in your system. *EVERY* comparable looking game out would run like ass on that video card. It's worthless. It's junk. It's tied for the absolute worst thing you could have put in your computer, what part of this aren't you getting? You paid top dollar for a killer processor, nice amount of memory, and then said, "Oh hell, I don't need a video card that can do anything other than a popcap game." Yah, it runs like shit... try oblivion or gothic3, guess what, they'll run like shit too.
Having a 7300 LE in your system is like saying modern games run poorly on windows 98 with a 1ghz processor and 256mb of ram. You castrated your processor and memory as far as gaming is concerned. That video card was ASS the day it was released, it was NEVER a good video card. It has always been bottom of the barrel, it will always be bottom of the barrel. All the components in a system work together. If you have a massively fast processor and little ram you won't get good performance because the swapping to hard disk constantly because of lack of memory will make the processor function at a fraction of its maximum performance. Same with a video card... your video card is capping your processors and rams maximum performance. You're not getting 50% of what that processor and ram could deliver. A computer a year-year and a half or older would have performed about the same with that video card.
Since you're obviously not a computer geek let me put it down in a few different ways so maybe you can get a clue... In car terms you bought a F1 race car and you're trying to race it on 85 octane. In food terms you made surf'and'turf and smothered the entire plate in a bottle of ketchup. In gun terms you bought a top end black powder muzzle loader and you're loading it with gravel... and you expect the car to win, the dinner to be raved about by top culinary magazines, and the gravel to shoot perfectly accurately.
That's not an excuse for vanguards bad performance, but you blaming *ANY* game for bad performance with that card is purely incompetence and lack of computer knowledge on YOUR part.
If you read my posts on the vanguard forum you'll see I rip the game pretty hard on a constant basis about performance... the client is screwed up hardcore... you have no way to make that judgment call though.
Edit: and talking about hypocrisy... you just ripped someone for making personal attacks then you call me an idiot? cute. Maybe you should get a "real life"
Whats so annoying are all these people who keep saying that the game has promise, but they themselves won't play it. Even people who bought the game won't play it until the game reaches a point inside of their own heads where they think, finally it is acceptable to play. Seriously, if the game shows promise, then play the god damn game. The developers as well as other players need support from people like you. Stop expecting perfection from an MMO, you just won't get it. All MMOs are works in progress (some more than others). We all know the game was released before its time, now get over it and play. People need to support a game like this, otherwise, expect WoW clones forever and ever (and I bet you'll be on some forum complaining about that too).
It's not a matter of expecting perfection. It's a matter of demanding a stable, somewhat polished client at launch, and also refusing to pay to play a game that 's still in beta form after release.
I played Vanguard in beta, and in the rare moments that I could actually play the game without any issues, I could see that the game had the potential to be a good game once it really got going. However, potential isn't enough for me. Not anymore. I've been burned too many times by MMO's that seemed to have potential, and I'm not about to throw hard-earned money at a game that even the developers admit was deliberately launched several months before it was ready. After five years of development and millions spent in the process, Vanguard should have been much farther along than it was. I'm not paying for unpolished, barely-above-beta-level releases anymore. Been there, done that. NOT doing it again.
When I start seeing posts around here and elsewhere that performance has dramatically improved, and that the game is finally coming together, then I'll give it another look. But there's no reason to pay subscription fees now for a game that wasn't ready for release. Better to give them time to get their act together, then take another glance at it. That makes much more sense, IMO.
the control system is all over the place . you feel like your fighting to keep your character moving in the directon you want him or her to go . combat really is inconsistant . the game is bugged to hell . monsters have a tendancy to disapear when your fighting them . the in game graphics are ok but even with my high spec pc i have to run everything on highest performance mode which makes the game look arwful and its still jerky . the character animation is static and akin to the kind of thing you get in some of the free play games like silk road . its like an open beta having said that i ve played better open betas .
havent read all the pages so if I repeat myself sorry , but I just wanted to say that I almost didnt buy this game due to allt he bad review here but I did. And you know what ? I actually enjoy it , bear with me I am no fanboy of vanguard and I did play everything that is out there (well maybe besides lineage 2) so I do know what I'm talking about.
Yes its not a 3 gen mmorpg and it nothing it has is new but still its a fun game . At lv 14 atm (so not very high but already past the noob zones more or less) and I havent seen lots of bugs. Sometimes here or there somebody dosent spawn or some mobs get invisible (but that happened maybe like 2 times since start)
I can say comparing to hmm Anarchy Online (which became one of the best mmos out there in their time) its a golden release So ..stop bitching and give the game some slack , lets see what happens in like hmm 4-6 months
Ah btw :
Athlon 1.6xp / 1gb ram / ati radeon 9800 / win xp ---> I play on balanced without any problems and can even play on high but with some tweaks and then i do have some problems in town .. So dont tell me this game has high system req cause I havent changed my comp for a few years
Ah btw : Athlon 1.6xp / 1gb ram / ati radeon 9800 / win xp ---> I play on balanced without any problems and can even play on high but with some tweaks and then i do have some problems in town .. So dont tell me this game has high system req cause I havent changed my comp for a few years
Vanboy thru and thru , your full of it if you think you can run on balanced with that system ... Nice try troll
LOL you want me to make a photo of my machine ? look at my posts and read through them and you can see I am not a fanboy of this game and this is really my machine Only thing i did was turn of shadows but even without doing that it ran pretty well . dont know maybe later the game starts to have a drop in performance but not in the noob zones ..
PS: dont call me a lier if you have no clue about anything concerning me . get your facts stright first .. lool troll , why would I bother to troll rofl.?
I read the OP's comment and thought well, someone apparently didn't have a great impression of Vanguard, ok so whatever. So... how in the hell does one person's rant about a game they didn't like, spawn 20 pages of replies with mostly comments debating on how the OP's comment could have been, should have been, might have been worded better, and basically disecting it like a diced up frog 0.o
Some of you guys are waaaaaaay too obsessive, thank God you don't know the OP's address or you'd be combing through his kitchen and writing 2000 word essays about how his refrigerator is organized .
System doesnt have to be that great to run VG i run balanced fine with pent 4 R 3GHZ 2GB ram and nvidia 6200 with 84.12 driver...
I have seen way to many posts of people saying they have a high spec machine and cant run past high perf....and to those that apply you are either a lier, you have no idea what high spec machine means or you have never run a spyware or antivirus on it ever.
I have encountered the most common bugs and have found away around them.....
-character changes appearance on enterance of game....all you need to do is reload the save you made when you first made your characterand your fine
-invis mobs....they arent actually invis as much as they fell out of the world just run back a few feet and the critter will pop back...if you fall out of the world just hit exit wait a few mins and relaunch.
-missing equip after death...equip is not missing as much as it is truly invis for odd reason if you die look at your inventory on grave and notice everything is there... sometimes people dont loot all their stuff from grave or it goes into your inventory and you must equip it. Also go to a repair merchant and you will see that it is in fact still in your inventory then log out wait a few and relaunch and your stuff is back.
Theres always a way around any bug these arent dire as much as they are a pain. Beyond that no mmo ever launched without being rough around the edges VG is a decent game if your willing to try something a little different and if your nit picky your never going to be happy with any game. By the way i do still have 15 buddy trial keys for those who want one mail me at paladinman86@gmail.com
I really dont get half of what people are saying in here. Granted the game has varied performance on different machines (and yes the game does in many cases run fine on crappy machines, and before you pull your fingers out of your arse and start to scream liar liar, read up or shut up, this has been proven through the beta time and time again).
The fun part of reading the replies here is that half of the people who have proclaimed themselves experts on not only vanguard but on all mmo´s keep on referring to world of warcraft as some kind of shining beacon of light. As obviously none of you in here actually beta tested that game (if you did you are either stupid or .. no actually your just stupid) or you wouldnt compare the two games att all (two year patch gap and copletely different technologies involved).
If you look att what world of warcraft was like after launch you had OMG yes dissapearing mobs bugs etc etc. just as with any mmo i have ever played after release. Now world of warcraft has been patched 1 million times and most (not all mind you) bugs are gone. As far as the whole "i hate this game because it wont run on my vodoo 2 grafs card" im not even going to dignify that with a response. (looking forward to seeing all you whiners posts when crysis is released "buhu i hate crytek i hope they all die cuz the game wont work on my board")
Does the game have flaws? yes, does it have balancing issues? yes does it need more polishing? yes, are sigil working on it? yes (gained a huge fps boost since last patch for eg.) should they have waited even longer for release? perhaps, would that have satisfied all you disgruntled sony haters? no.
I never played SWG or everquest 1 or 2 and thus i have no opinion on what sony etc did or did not screw up. One thing i know for sure though is that having read all the flame posts about "sony is going to screw this up, sony is etc etc etc" before release all of us older testers where quite aware that once the game was released the proverbial "just like i said, i told you so" people would come crawling out of the woodwork to once more begin the negative spam.
So please, just because your Über jedi knight with his looovely light saber didnt live upp to your expectations because the evil empire SOE killed him dont go ranting on about vanguard (oh and yes i hate SOE to fyi) being a crap game. Doing so displays about as much mental capacity as "cartoon guy" in simpsons would manage to muster.
There you go now you all got me to answer .. goddamit i never answer posts ..
I agree 100% the game is fun give it a chance u mite like it u mite not but make your own mind on this game dont listen to all the hater most just dont want u to try it cause u mite enjoy your self lol
I agree 100% the game is fun give it a chance u mite like it u mite not but make your own mind on this game dont listen to all the hater most just dont want u to try it cause u mite enjoy your self lol
It can be tough to tell who's a hater, who's a fanboi, and who's opinions are truly objective. I agree with the whole "try it for yourself" notion, which I'm gonna do regardless. I enjoyed old EQ quite a bit, and its really the combination of Sigil having many of those original developers from Verant, and their claims of trying to bring back what was lost from those old days of MMORPG'ing that make me want to see for myself if they deliver.
Being graphically pretty is nice, but content is the maker or breaker in an MMO for me. Other people might feel differently, which is fine. I'll be finding out for myself if Vanguard is for me, and if it's not, unlike some, I'll simply quit and leave it at that instead of trying to ruin the game's reputation.
Ah btw : Athlon 1.6xp / 1gb ram / ati radeon 9800 / win xp ---> I play on balanced without any problems and can even play on high but with some tweaks and then i do have some problems in town .. So dont tell me this game has high system req cause I havent changed my comp for a few years
Total BS..My system puts yours down eaily and there is NO F'ing way I could play on high. On medium settings in towns it was a slide show 5fps. With that system I would bet in town you get 1-3fps on high performance, and maybe 12fps out of town IF you are lucky. There is no way that archaic POS can run VG on balanced let alone high. Post some screenies in town and out of town on balanced and high, and make sure you have the lag-o meter showing aswell. I want to LOL at what you consider "playable" with 2fps. Nice try though.
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As the weeks and months roll on the "its gonna be the best MMO ever some day soon" argument is going to fly out the window. But who knows SGW kept that argument going until this very day and that game is a ghost town.
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The whole performance thing is just over the top. I do have a powerful computer
athlon 64x2, geforce 8800 gtx , 2gb ram 250g gb hd
Atm im playing vanguard in windows mode on a 19" montior, while watching a movie on a 8" monitor, while typing this in internet explorer. all on the same computer. I could probally put a few filesharers on as well with no problems. Vanguard is on balanced setting and im happy playing the game. the idea of vg been this majoy poor performer is getting silly.
Computers have alot of problems these days. With virus, worms, not defraging, bad memory, burning out. computers don't live forever. They ware out and get old.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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I ahve no idea what shader 2.0 does might give oyu a clue here.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_Shader_2.0
You're right it is a conspiracy and its all about money. They do want to you upgrade. This is the way pc games have always been and always will. The question is would you still want to play a game with tekken 1 graphics? because thats what would of happened of they didnt make us upgrade.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Fascinating....
I'm *NOT* defending the performance. The games performance is absolute crap compared to ANYTHING else on the market. No questions asked.
However, you have NO way of knowing that with the video card in your system. *EVERY* comparable looking game out would run like ass on that video card. It's worthless. It's junk. It's tied for the absolute worst thing you could have put in your computer, what part of this aren't you getting? You paid top dollar for a killer processor, nice amount of memory, and then said, "Oh hell, I don't need a video card that can do anything other than a popcap game." Yah, it runs like shit... try oblivion or gothic3, guess what, they'll run like shit too.
Having a 7300 LE in your system is like saying modern games run poorly on windows 98 with a 1ghz processor and 256mb of ram. You castrated your processor and memory as far as gaming is concerned. That video card was ASS the day it was released, it was NEVER a good video card. It has always been bottom of the barrel, it will always be bottom of the barrel. All the components in a system work together. If you have a massively fast processor and little ram you won't get good performance because the swapping to hard disk constantly because of lack of memory will make the processor function at a fraction of its maximum performance. Same with a video card... your video card is capping your processors and rams maximum performance. You're not getting 50% of what that processor and ram could deliver. A computer a year-year and a half or older would have performed about the same with that video card.
Since you're obviously not a computer geek let me put it down in a few different ways so maybe you can get a clue... In car terms you bought a F1 race car and you're trying to race it on 85 octane. In food terms you made surf'and'turf and smothered the entire plate in a bottle of ketchup. In gun terms you bought a top end black powder muzzle loader and you're loading it with gravel... and you expect the car to win, the dinner to be raved about by top culinary magazines, and the gravel to shoot perfectly accurately.
That's not an excuse for vanguards bad performance, but you blaming *ANY* game for bad performance with that card is purely incompetence and lack of computer knowledge on YOUR part.
If you read my posts on the vanguard forum you'll see I rip the game pretty hard on a constant basis about performance... the client is screwed up hardcore... you have no way to make that judgment call though.
Edit: and talking about hypocrisy... you just ripped someone for making personal attacks then you call me an idiot? cute. Maybe you should get a "real life"
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I played Vanguard in beta, and in the rare moments that I could actually play the game without any issues, I could see that the game had the potential to be a good game once it really got going. However, potential isn't enough for me. Not anymore. I've been burned too many times by MMO's that seemed to have potential, and I'm not about to throw hard-earned money at a game that even the developers admit was deliberately launched several months before it was ready. After five years of development and millions spent in the process, Vanguard should have been much farther along than it was. I'm not paying for unpolished, barely-above-beta-level releases anymore. Been there, done that. NOT doing it again.
When I start seeing posts around here and elsewhere that performance has dramatically improved, and that the game is finally coming together, then I'll give it another look. But there's no reason to pay subscription fees now for a game that wasn't ready for release. Better to give them time to get their act together, then take another glance at it. That makes much more sense, IMO.
havent read all the pages so if I repeat myself sorry , but I just wanted to say that I almost didnt buy this game due to allt he bad review here but I did. And you know what ? I actually enjoy it , bear with me I am no fanboy of vanguard and I did play everything that is out there (well maybe besides lineage 2) so I do know what I'm talking about.
Yes its not a 3 gen mmorpg and it nothing it has is new but still its a fun game . At lv 14 atm (so not very high but already past the noob zones more or less) and I havent seen lots of bugs. Sometimes here or there somebody dosent spawn or some mobs get invisible (but that happened maybe like 2 times since start)
I can say comparing to hmm Anarchy Online (which became one of the best mmos out there in their time) its a golden release
So ..stop bitching and give the game some slack , lets see what happens in like hmm 4-6 months 
Ah btw :
Athlon 1.6xp / 1gb ram / ati radeon 9800 / win xp ---> I play on balanced without any problems and can even play on high but with some tweaks and then i do have some problems in town .. So dont tell me this game has high system req cause I havent changed my comp for a few years
Vanboy thru and thru , your full of it if you think you can run on balanced with that system ... Nice try troll
LOL you want me to make a photo of my machine ? look at my posts and read through them and you can see I am not a fanboy of this game and this is really my machine
Only thing i did was turn of shadows but even without doing that it ran pretty well . dont know maybe later the game starts to have a drop in performance but not in the noob zones ..
PS: dont call me a lier if you have no clue about anything concerning me . get your facts stright first .. lool troll , why would I bother to troll rofl.?
I read the OP's comment and thought well, someone apparently didn't have a great impression of Vanguard, ok so whatever. So... how in the hell does one person's rant about a game they didn't like, spawn 20 pages of replies with mostly comments debating on how the OP's comment could have been, should have been, might have been worded better, and basically disecting it like a diced up frog 0.o
Some of you guys are waaaaaaay too obsessive, thank God you don't know the OP's address or you'd be combing through his kitchen and writing 2000 word essays about how his refrigerator is organized
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System doesnt have to be that great to run VG i run balanced fine with pent 4 R 3GHZ 2GB ram and nvidia 6200 with 84.12 driver...
I have seen way to many posts of people saying they have a high spec machine and cant run past high perf....and to those that apply you are either a lier, you have no idea what high spec machine means or you have never run a spyware or antivirus on it ever.
I have encountered the most common bugs and have found away around them.....
-character changes appearance on enterance of game....all you need to do is reload the save you made when you first made your characterand your fine
-invis mobs....they arent actually invis as much as they fell out of the world just run back a few feet and the critter will pop back...if you fall out of the world just hit exit wait a few mins and relaunch.
-missing equip after death...equip is not missing as much as it is truly invis for odd reason if you die look at your inventory on grave and notice everything is there... sometimes people dont loot all their stuff from grave or it goes into your inventory and you must equip it. Also go to a repair merchant and you will see that it is in fact still in your inventory then log out wait a few and relaunch and your stuff is back.
Theres always a way around any bug these arent dire as much as they are a pain. Beyond that no mmo ever launched without being rough around the edges VG is a decent game if your willing to try something a little different and if your nit picky your never going to be happy with any game. By the way i do still have 15 buddy trial keys for those who want one mail me at paladinman86@gmail.com
The fun part of reading the replies here is that half of the people who have proclaimed themselves experts on not only vanguard but on all mmo´s keep on referring to world of warcraft as some kind of shining beacon of light. As obviously none of you in here actually beta tested that game (if you did you are either stupid or .. no actually your just stupid) or you wouldnt compare the two games att all (two year patch gap and copletely different technologies involved).
If you look att what world of warcraft was like after launch you had OMG yes dissapearing mobs bugs etc etc. just as with any mmo i have ever played after release. Now world of warcraft has been patched 1 million times and most (not all mind you) bugs are gone. As far as the whole "i hate this game because it wont run on my vodoo 2 grafs card" im not even going to dignify that with a response. (looking forward to seeing all you whiners posts when crysis is released "buhu i hate crytek i hope they all die cuz the game wont work on my board")
Does the game have flaws? yes, does it have balancing issues? yes does it need more polishing? yes, are sigil working on it? yes (gained a huge fps boost since last patch for eg.) should they have waited even longer for release? perhaps, would that have satisfied all you disgruntled sony haters? no.
I never played SWG or everquest 1 or 2 and thus i have no opinion on what sony etc did or did not screw up. One thing i know for sure though is that having read all the flame posts about "sony is going to screw this up, sony is etc etc etc" before release all of us older testers where quite aware that once the game was released the proverbial "just like i said, i told you so" people would come crawling out of the woodwork to once more begin the negative spam.
So please, just because your Über jedi knight with his looovely light saber didnt live upp to your expectations because the evil empire SOE killed him dont go ranting on about vanguard (oh and yes i hate SOE to fyi) being a crap game. Doing so displays about as much mental capacity as "cartoon guy" in simpsons would manage to muster.
There you go now you all got me to answer .. goddamit i never answer posts ..
It can be tough to tell who's a hater, who's a fanboi, and who's opinions are truly objective. I agree with the whole "try it for yourself" notion, which I'm gonna do regardless. I enjoyed old EQ quite a bit, and its really the combination of Sigil having many of those original developers from Verant, and their claims of trying to bring back what was lost from those old days of MMORPG'ing that make me want to see for myself if they deliver.
Being graphically pretty is nice, but content is the maker or breaker in an MMO for me. Other people might feel differently, which is fine. I'll be finding out for myself if Vanguard is for me, and if it's not, unlike some, I'll simply quit and leave it at that instead of trying to ruin the game's reputation.