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Cancelling for now..
Drumwiz
Member Posts: 217
Well I'm not sure how much time is left on my free 1 month trial when I bought the game, but for now I will be cancelling my subscription basically because:
1.I do not see nearly enough progress since launch
2.I was a long time beta player, and I thought that by 3 weeks in, Sigil would have fixed a hell of a lot more than they have, and polished the game up nicely.
3.My computer which is above the recommended spec's just does not run the game well at all(along with most people), and if their solution is to wait until graphics cards are cheap-good riddens.
4.No official forums and I feel like the communitty is very distant because of this, and I feel like you cannot communicate with the dev's and suggest things for the games(although we all know they wouldn't listen anyways).
5.As the game is now, it is still very Beta testing status, except with people paying for it, and I will not pay for an unfinished/broken game.
6. $oe will only make things worse.
7.Horrible, dummy CS as usual.
8. I rather invest my hard earned money into a nicely polished, finished, runnable, game which there are many out there and many coming out(maybe LOTRO, maybe not..)
9.Game news is already slow/boring less than 3 weeks in.
10.Things just don't work well.
Well that is the top 10 things I can put on the board for why i'm cancelling. I know that the game has been out for very little time, and maybe there is some huge patch in the works or something that will fix a lot, and maybe if it fixes a lot of my issues I will stay, but again until it is at a stage of where I feel good for paying for it, i'm out. There's no reason why anyone should pay for an unfinished game, because They ran out of money, and that's not our faults and shouldn't have to pay for a Beta.
Before launch they were coming out with these great patches sometimes 3-4 a day that were Huge, but after that, there almost non-existent. Performance is a huge issue with me, and if my computer(which is decent) can't run it, well guess what I don't have hundreds of dollars to go spend on a graphics card just to play this broken game. If other game's can run perfectly and have good graphics then VG should have also, but nope. And Brad's solution is something like "Well over the years, graphics cards will hopefully come down in price...so keep playing on highest performance where it looks like i am playing the beta of EQ1...". No thanks, i don't need it.
Hopefully they start fixing and prove me all wrong very soon, but until then so long.
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I prefer good patches then rushed ones with tons of bugs in em.
But, thats just me.
It's either they patch without testing or they are too slow. No matter what they do
eqnext.wikia.com
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LOL guess they heard my cry, look what's on the news page for VG:
"All Servers – Patch 12:30PM PST
02/14/2007
Greetings!
At 12:30PM PST all servers will be coming down for a patch. The estimated downtime is 2 hours.
We realize this is during European prime time and apologize for the inconvenience in advanced. Our goal is to resolve issues as quickly as possible and appreciate everyones cooperation while we do so. Thank you everyone for your patience! "
Now we'll just have to wait and find out if a)It is useful, b)it is large, c)if it is anygood, probably not.
If I'm gonna sink countless games into a MMO, I at least expect the game to be working as intended at launch.
Perhaps they can make neccessary improvements before other said MMOs are released.
1.I do not see nearly enough progress since launch
i stopped reading after this line. If you don't believe sigil has fixed numerous issue sin record time, than there is no pleasing you, and I am glad you are not part of the vg community.
A nice stable patch with almost no new bugs introduced, or fast patches that are not tested and messes the game even more?
eqnext.wikia.com
Good list OP, totally agree.
I am cancelling subscription. If enough players do that, and only then, might Sigil/SOE start doing something really positive to clean up this mess. Not sure how many months its going to take, but I might be back.
A nice stable patch with almost no new bugs introduced, or fast patches that are not tested and messes the game even more? I'm quoting myself!!!
Can i get you take on this guys?
eqnext.wikia.com
There's a lot of stupid people out there. One guy on this forum was throwing a temper tantrum because it had been THREE WHOLE DAYS since the last patch! It was as though he believed fixing game issues was simply as easy as having a list of bugs compiled.
Just cancelled my account...
I really like the game, I do. The guys responsible for QA has done a crap job though - its as simple as that. I was not in the beta but many of the bugs and error that happens to me must have shown in a beta.
Today I am a little angry and feel that they have taken my money to finish their game - it will most likely go away until tomorrow, but I doubt that I will return to Vanguard anymore.
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Playing: Rogue
Played: AO, CoH, DAoC, EQII, Horizons, Planetside, SWG
Tested: AC2, Lineage II, Vanguard, WoW...and more
Just cancelled my account...
I really like the game, I do. The guys responsible for QA has done a crap job though - its as simple as that. I was not in the beta but many of the bugs and error that happens to me must have shown in a beta.
Today I am a little angry and feel that they have taken my money to finish their game - it will most likely go away until tomorrow, but I doubt that I will return to Vanguard anymore.
You didn't even answer the question you quoted. All you did was whine that things aren't perfect yet.
Just cancelled my account...
I really like the game, I do. The guys responsible for QA has done a crap job though - its as simple as that. I was not in the beta but many of the bugs and error that happens to me must have shown in a beta.
Today I am a little angry and feel that they have taken my money to finish their game - it will most likely go away until tomorrow, but I doubt that I will return to Vanguard anymore.
You didn't even answer the question you quoted. All you did was whine that things aren't perfect yet.
Reading your line of text I would be tempted to say the same.
Q: What exact kind of progress were you expecting since launch?
A: Since not beeing in the beta I did not have a firm picture of the status of the game but one is tempted to believe that Ritual in their betas managed to kill the worst bugs...and even the most bugs. Naturally things go bad, they can´t test everything - I understand and accept that.
I would have expected an enormous amont of progress if "they" decide to release the game in the state it is in now. Perhaps they have corrected alot since launch - but it just is not good enough.
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Playing: Rogue
Played: AO, CoH, DAoC, EQII, Horizons, Planetside, SWG
Tested: AC2, Lineage II, Vanguard, WoW...and more
Ok,first of all,I think saying u were a LONG TIME BETA TESTER IS A LIE... I was a long time beta tester and I'm loving the game for what it is,not where it's lacking..If u tested the game for at least 5 months,then that shows VG was good enough to play and enjoy back then..Do u know back in August,and Early September you could barely take 3 steps without lagging for 5 seconds??? I still played through all that..I played when there was barely any NPC population,the starting cities for each races wasn't even implemented,quests were ALL BROKE,mobs were either WAY TO POWERFUL for their level,or so over conned it was a joke..Then in late September It's like Merlin waved his magical wand and everything got 10000x better..The performance,stability was much better,more quests,npc's,starting areas,etc all started to get implemented and things were shaping up NICELY.. The game has gotten better each week since mid september.. If you were a LONG TIME BETA TESTER like you claim,then you would have seen this..
Personally,I think you probably tested the game for about 1 week when EVERYONE was allowed in..The game you probably seen then hasn't changed much..This much is true..The lag spikes,glitches,mobs disappearing,getting stuck under the world,crashes,etc hasn't really seen an improvement since about a week before VG went live.. But it sure has since August,ASK ANY REALL BETA TESTER WHO TESTED THE GAME SINCE AUGUST.. Cause you my friend most definitely DID NOT.. If you were a long time dedicated beta tester,you wouldn't have written this ridiculous thread crying like a girl.. You most definitely wouldn't have cancelled your account two weeks into launch either ROFL!!
Like I said before,I was in Beta for 5 months.I dealt with what normal people would NEVER WASTE THEIR TIME GOING THROUGH.. And let me be the first to tell them, THE PERFORMANCE ISSUE IN VG WILL GET BETTER EVENTUALLY..Just give it time..If you are thinking of purchasing VG,do it and try the game out for yourself..You have 30 free days to play..Not bad for a product that costs 50.00..If you are unhappy with it after the 30 days,then by all means sell it on ebay or something..You'll probably get more than 50.00 depending on how high you got your character..
And the game has so much going for it..I read in your thread that the game has "NO REAL UPDATES AND IS BORING?!?!!?" ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL!!! Dude,what level did u get to,(((((((10??????)))))))) That my friend is a ludicrously ridiculus and ignorant dumb statement..That right there proves you WERE NOT A LONG TIME BETA TESTER,you LIAR! I got my Dreadknight to level 38 in beta.. For those of u that don't know,let me just tell you this game has alot going for it and so much to offer..My guild was the only guild in ALL OF BETA to take out sigil's first Raid encounter implemented..It was a level 42 Cockatrice named Deathfang..If you don't believe me,go to www.voodooguild.org and scrol down until you see the pics of the mob,the kill,and the legendary and heroic items that were named after our members.. Tht encounter featured the first 24 man raid team and was alot of fun.. The raids in VG are gonna be on parallel with EQ,EQ2,etc..
VG doesn't really start to get really amazing until the mid 20's anyway..And it gets better every 5 levels.. Why do you think theres alot of people rushing to 40+?? So ya,my advice is to try talking to people who actually know what they're talking about and who's experienced everything from levels 1-40 in beta.. And heres a tip,they were just introducing content 35+ in December..What they introduced was amazing and theres alot more in the game now..
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
Where did you expect Vanguard to go in only 3 weeks?
The truth is they've been working round the clock and have made tremendous strides in things like fixing performance, added animations, and squashing bugs.
Expecting anything more is unreasonable, impossible, and shows you know nothing about game development.
Since the start I never came across a single game breaking bug. Bugs in general have been few and far between, and almost always so minor that I don't even remember what they were.
If you are one of the people that enjoy Vanguard, good luck to you, and I do hope that Sigil does their job at quick polishing the game.
Peace out
So was your rant, expecting everyone to like exactly what you like. We call these Vanbois and it shows through and through. When you put aside your sexual feelings for the game, then come talk to us.
It is not my intention to troll around. As I said in my first post I like the game.
Firstly, I did answer the question. But perhaps I will try to approach it from a different angle. I fully understand that they have been working around the clock to fix bugs etc. They are doing what they can - and are proberbly very passionate about their product and want it to become a success. My problem is that I would have expected many of the error that has happened to me, friends and guildies to not be in a retail product - even if it is a big and complex MMO.
I also have to point out that even though I havent been apart of creating games - I do have 15 year professional experience working as programer, project manager etc. for large computerbased software.
You must be very lucky not having bumped into any game breaking bugs - so far it has happened to me multiple times, not even counting broken quests, un-harvestable resources, psi-spell bug which makes me have to relogg, rubberbanding mob, serverlag etc etc
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Playing: Rogue
Played: AO, CoH, DAoC, EQII, Horizons, Planetside, SWG
Tested: AC2, Lineage II, Vanguard, WoW...and more
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