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This game is garbage
DarwynFOUR
Member Posts: 55
I don't think I've played a game this bad since...DnL? I mean just wow...how do you manage to turn a game that was looking pretty good Into a pile of steaming shit that Vanguard is.The bugs in this game are unacceptable, The combat..oh my the combat..Never have i witnessed such a bland, uninteresting, boring, insulting combat system in all of my years of gaming.
The American MMO market just keeps going down and down and down..
The American MMO market just keeps going down and down and down..
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Played in late beta and have to agree, combat was just boring as hell and the grind just bores me even more.
We need a game that engages you on many levels and is somewhat more dynamic and has a lot less grind.
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60k sold boxes, 40k players at best! It is l33t skill to dual-box or to, oh gasp, triple-box!
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
We don't care what you think, but we'll comment on your opinion anyway, I wonder why....
60k sold boxes, 40k players at best! It is l33t skill to dual-box or to, oh gasp, triple-box!
Another super all knowing great programmer who knows just about everything about games .... we thank you oh know all god of everything about games ... we thank you and bow to you that you know everything ... all hail his great knowledge and superior gaming ability. All hail.He is great...king of all.
Does that make you feel better?
Its just amazing that you think I am suppose to believe you when you say that you know exactly how many people bought the game or how many people are on at one time.....that you think a lot of people on here are stupid or something ...yea.
Again i suggest if anyone wants to know more about this game...please go to another forum...this one is full of 12 year olds.
Love this game, its a lot more fun that the five minute max level games. I will be playing this game long after you have switched games half a dozen times and still enjoying it.
As for subscriber levels, over 300k of characters in the stats so make of it what you will.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
Sorry make that 400k of characters.
As for grind, every MMORPG is a grind, they all try to disguise it somehow.
What people like about VG is level have meaning once again, they are hard to earn.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
60k sold boxes, 40k players at best! It is l33t skill to dual-box or to, oh gasp, triple-box!
Another super all knowing great programmer who knows just about everything about games .... we thank you oh know all god of everything about games ... we thank you and bow to you that you know everything ... all hail his great knowledge and superior gaming ability. All hail.He is great...king of all.
Does that make you feel better?
Its just amazing that you think I am suppose to believe you when you say that you know exactly how many people bought the game or how many people are on at one time.....that you think a lot of people on here are stupid or something ...yea.
Again i suggest if anyone wants to know more about this game...please go to another forum...this one is full of 12 year olds.
http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/27034-vg-sales-numbers-37.html
When I said 100k, I aint pulling numbers out my ass.
Hope you feel like an idiot now.
Lie much? If your lucky, its 60k.
60k sold boxes, 40k players at best! It is l33t skill to dual-box or to, oh gasp, triple-box!
Another super all knowing great programmer who knows just about everything about games .... we thank you oh know all god of everything about games ... we thank you and bow to you that you know everything ... all hail his great knowledge and superior gaming ability. All hail.He is great...king of all.
Does that make you feel better?
Its just amazing that you think I am suppose to believe you when you say that you know exactly how many people bought the game or how many people are on at one time.....that you think a lot of people on here are stupid or something ...yea.
Again i suggest if anyone wants to know more about this game...please go to another forum...this one is full of 12 year olds.
http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/27034-vg-sales-numbers-37.html
When I said 100k, I aint pulling numbers out my ass.
Hope you feel like an idiot now.
Nice, makes sense, 14 servers, my server has about 40k of characters which is medium to high pop (not online at once but created) so kinda fits.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
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That is the number of characters between level 8 and 50.
I doubt anyone who quit the game or has made ton of additional characters got past level 8 on them. Since the death penalty kicks in at level 7.
But level 5-50 is about 250K characters. So there are around 90-100K characters from level 5-7. Those are most likely the alts, the character tried to see if they like the class, the person who quit the game due to bugs or not liking the game.
Yeah Vanguard might not be a smashing success, but instead of hitting its peak early, I think it will hit its peak way later on like EQ1 did.
I could easily see this game hitting EQ1's level of success if they continue to fix the bugs like they have been. The last patch they did fixed most of the problems I was having with the game. It even seems like the graphics are smoother now then they were before that patch. I also haven't had a mob disappear on me since that patch.
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LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
60k sold boxes, 40k players at best! It is l33t skill to dual-box or to, oh gasp, triple-box!
Another super all knowing great programmer who knows just about everything about games .... we thank you oh know all god of everything about games ... we thank you and bow to you that you know everything ... all hail his great knowledge and superior gaming ability. All hail.He is great...king of all.
Does that make you feel better?
Its just amazing that you think I am suppose to believe you when you say that you know exactly how many people bought the game or how many people are on at one time.....that you think a lot of people on here are stupid or something ...yea.
Again i suggest if anyone wants to know more about this game...please go to another forum...this one is full of 12 year olds.
http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/27034-vg-sales-numbers-37.html
When I said 100k, I aint pulling numbers out my ass.
Hope you feel like an idiot now.
He probably won't feel like one, since if you track that thread further, Nino clarifies the 100k figure as 'boxes sold', not subscribers. Pretty tough for there to have been a subscriber count when everyone is in their free month don't you think?As for all of the hundreds of thousands of characters that have been created; do account for buddy keys, and alts galore despite buddy keys or retail boxes.
Let's wait until people are actually paying a recurring fee (a subscription) before we start throwing out numbers, because the circumstances aren't quite in Vanguard's favor if a big deal is going to be made off boxes sold and number of characters created.
Retention rate of new subscribers is everything.
Actually I dont know why we bother, cos whatever we say only 4 people brought it and 2 are playing online, even though my server is brimming with groups.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
So who's asking you to quit? And stop pretending that this game is so hard. It's not. I'm sure the power gamers in other games will hit 50 here just as fast as they do elsewhere.
Saying idiotic things like "if you don't like the game become a programmer..." is just mindless garbage. I won't even respond to that anymore.
What exactly is it that Vanguard has that is so fresh to MMOs? A card game? Really, other than that, what is the big innovation that you speak of? It's not the missions. It's certainly not performance. The graphics are good, but not earthshattering. The gameplay is pretty standard for all fantasy MMOs. So what is this freshness? Oh yeah, it's just the newest MMO on the block. That's all it has going for it in terms of being innovative.
No grind? The game looks and plays awsome? That's strange because the Devs have acknowledged that the game is unfinished with performance issues. Maybe you should set your standards in what is "awsome" a little higher.
"No game is perfect and all have bugs" This might be true, but how about this? Most games are release quality and finished. This one isn't. Vanguard isn't just suffering from a few bugs. Vanguard is incomplete. That's a big difference.
FYI - I just cancelled my account 3 minutes ago. I'm done with this game, and believe me, I'm shutting the door on my way out. I'll also continue to tell people of my experiences with the game and if I see things posted that are misleading, I'll be sure to chime in.
So who's asking you to quit? And stop pretending that this game is so hard. It's not. I'm sure the power gamers in other games will hit 50 here just as fast as they do elsewhere.
Saying idiotic things like "if you don't like the game become a programmer..." is just mindless garbage. I won't even respond to that anymore.
What exactly is it that Vanguard has that is so fresh to MMOs? A card game? Really, other than that, what is the big innovation that you speak of? It's not the missions. It's certainly not performance. The graphics are good, but not earthshattering. The gameplay is pretty standard for all fantasy MMOs. So what is this freshness? Oh yeah, it's just the newest MMO on the block. That's all it has going for it in terms of being innovative.
No grind? The game looks and plays awsome? That's strange because the Devs have acknowledged that the game is unfinished with performance issues. Maybe you should set your standards in what is "awsome" a little higher.
"No game is perfect and all have bugs" This might be true, but how about this? Most games are release quality and finished. This one isn't. Vanguard isn't just suffering from a few bugs. Vanguard is incomplete. That's a big difference.
FYI - I just cancelled my account 3 minutes ago. I'm done with this game, and believe me, I'm shutting the door on my way out. I'll also continue to tell people of my experiences with the game and if I see things posted that are misleading, I'll be sure to chime in.
Try and understand, some people have different opinions. I completely disagree with you and feel that its not a game for you and I don't want you to play it because of that reason.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
Everyone wants to use low subscription numbers as an indicator that Vanguard sucks. Unfortunately, the numbers are low because the game doesn't appeal to everyone. It is meant for a certain type of gamer, and if you aren't that type of gamer, it isn't for you. If you are one who has made it your pet cause to bring the game down because it isn't for you - I'm really getting sick of your posts and worried about your social adjustment.
There are some who are the type of gamer Vanguard was meant for. We are having fun, leave us alone. I"m not saying there are those who are in the target audience who can't see past the launch problems, but they are simply in the 'wait a few months' catagory. Then there are those of us grin and bear the problems, if they even recognize them, and see the brilliant game unfolding anyway. Those gamers want to be at the top of the game as soon as possible, despite the bugs.
But why the low numbers?
Vanguard's low numbers are more akin to facts like, there are more Honda Civics then Corvettes on the road. More McDonald's then 4 Seasons. There are more in the minor leagues than in the majors, there are lots of artists, but not many Picassos. In fact, the last is my favorite comparison, many people look at Picasso and think its ugly, strange and makes them feel uncomfortable - but a few of us look and see pure genious.
When people say they don't like the combat system, I hear, "Why does Picasso paint with all those strange shapes? It's stupid."
When people say they don't like the graphics, I assume they are looking at a black and white Picasso photo in an old used art book. Either that or it's like hearing, "That Picasso is suppose to be a beautiful women? Coulda fooled me". Don't bother responding with my 'My system has blah blah blah uber junk and it still runs like crap!" I simply don't believe it is the games fault. You are either a liar or a moron.
And for those who wish to retort with something like, "How dare you say I don't get Vanguard! I get it! It sux!" I won't respond, because you are only reinforcing my point.
The funniest retort of all may come from someone saying something to the effect of, "You're right, I don't like Picasso or Vanguard, they both suck". To which I will be reinforced yet again that you have to be wired a certain way to understand some of the finer things in life. I don't pity you, or look down on you, but I won't respond because, I truly believe "to each his own". Which is why I don't troll the forums of games I dislike spreading hate. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
"Seldom in history has the majority been right" -Robert Heinlein
I concur completely, this game isn't for everyone, has been said many times.
If you don't get it, fair enough, just don't troll the same rubbish over and over again like its a problem to the players of VG.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve