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QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400


I really don't get it Blizzard says they have 8.5 millions subscribers, then why people asking for servers merge?







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  • skiziskizi Member Posts: 120
    Because WoW has over 50 servers. They feel the need to add a new server every major patch, so now they're being forced to merge because the older servers are becoming less populated.

    Think about it, would you rather start on a fresh new server or a server that is 2 years old? Some of the WoW developers are not the brightest seashells on the beach.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,093

    Well, while I never experienced an underpopulated server in WOW (I always seemed to be on the over-crowded, queue choked servers) I have heard tales told about some servers actually not having many players on them. 

    So with as many servers as they have in the US (150+ right?) its not surprising that maybe a few are a bit light in population....

     

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  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400
    Originally posted by skizi

    Because WoW has over 50 servers. They feel the need to add a new server every major patch, so now they're being forced to merge because the older servers are becoming less populated.

    Think about it, would you rather start on a fresh new server or a server that is 2 years old? Some of the WoW developers are not the brightest seashells on the beach.
    lol they have 220 servers on NA and 235 servers on europe , more then half of these servers have low pops.
  • freako969freako969 Member Posts: 105

    They have SHIT loads of servers, and constantly launch more and more...I play on Dunemaul, which used to have queue's of 1000 to get in...now its nearly empty.

     

    The problem Blizzard made for themselves is when you see the population it gets that by the number of characters on that server (including all alts, chars made whilst other servers were down etc etc) and not by the number of players on at that moment. So you could go on a "full" server thats dead and a low population server with a very dedicated playerbase which is constantly chockers.

    And don't forget above all else Blizzard prepared for server merges from BETA and have set-up the system so that they can do it miles easier then any other MMO by far.

  • ShijukiShijuki Member UncommonPosts: 318
    Originally posted by Quingu

    Originally posted by skizi

    Because WoW has over 50 servers. They feel the need to add a new server every major patch, so now they're being forced to merge because the older servers are becoming less populated.

    Think about it, would you rather start on a fresh new server or a server that is 2 years old? Some of the WoW developers are not the brightest seashells on the beach.
    lol they have 220 servers on NA and 235 servers on europe , more then half of these servers have low pops. Almost half are full, while the majority are at medium with a few on low and recommended. Keep in mind that those servers that are full are mostly pvp servers. This is based on the EU version.
  • KnightblastKnightblast Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    Yeah there are full servers in NA of all types: normal, RP, PVP, etc.



    People keep crying for new servers because they do not want to start a new character on an existing server to avoid twinks, competing against established characters and the like.  This is more of an issue on PvP servers, because the way WoW works PvP servers, whoever gets the jump on leveling has a substantial leg up, and a more or less permanent one, so there is some advantage to getting in on the ground floor.



    The problem, of course, is that the result is a good amount of low pop servers.  I could see Blizzard merging some of the low pop ones together, that would make some sense for everyone, since the servers already exist.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by freako969


    They have SHIT loads of servers, and constantly launch more and more...I play on Dunemaul, which used to have queue's of 1000 to get in...now its nearly empty.
     
    The problem Blizzard made for themselves is when you see the population it gets that by the number of characters on that server (including all alts, chars made whilst other servers were down etc etc) and not by the number of players on at that moment. So you could go on a "full" server thats dead and a low population server with a very dedicated playerbase which is constantly chockers.
    And don't forget above all else Blizzard prepared for server merges from BETA and have set-up the system so that they can do it miles easier then any other MMO by far.
    I think its based on the amount of people online.
  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509

    It just goes to prove that no matter how hard Blizzard tries, there is just no pleasing everyone.

    Every single month there's a 30 page post asking for new servers, new servers come out and the natives are appeased once again. A coulple of servers don't quite have 15000+ popluations and a few people ask for servers merges without thinking a server needs time to grow and mature.

    The server in question here is Ysondre, which shows a population of almost 10,000 player on Warcraftrealms, you can see the breakdown here:

    http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php?PHPSESSID=9dacb57831843c039cda04152d93d864

    That's not exactly a small popluation and the server has just barely hit it's 1 year anniversary. I say that's a growing population, not a weak one.

    - WoW North America has 223 Live Servers.

    - 88 of those server have between 10,000 and 20,000 population.

    - 121 of those servers have 20,000 + populations

    - ONLY 14 server have between 3,000 and 9,999 people playing. 14 people!!!!

    -  Out of the 14 servers that have under 10,000 popluation, 12 of them have been opened within the last year, only 2 have been out longer.

    In other words, even the thought of a server merge makes ZERO sense for Blizzard and all likelyhood points to more servers comming once the current young server mature a bit more. All this is NOT counting Asian or EU servers.

  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400
    Originally posted by Shijuki

    Originally posted by Quingu

    Originally posted by skizi

    Because WoW has over 50 servers. They feel the need to add a new server every major patch, so now they're being forced to merge because the older servers are becoming less populated.

    Think about it, would you rather start on a fresh new server or a server that is 2 years old? Some of the WoW developers are not the brightest seashells on the beach.
    lol they have 220 servers on NA and 235 servers on europe , more then half of these servers have low pops. Almost half are full, while the majority are at medium with a few on low and recommended. Keep in mind that those servers that are full are mostly pvp servers. This is based on the EU version. yes but there is ALOT more people playing on EU servers then on NA servers. I predict that merges will happen on NA servers because  the lack of players there.
  • freako969freako969 Member Posts: 105
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    I think its based on the amount of people online.



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  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094
    Well the expansion did increase the size of the world by around 50%, making azeroth a ghost town that didn't help make feel the world full, unless you go to outlands ofc. 



    Blizzard have been giving free transfers from full realms to low pop realms too to spread players around a bit, but I think we're far from the need to merge servers ATM.



    here are the EU sever stats: www.wow-europe.com/en/serverstatus/ (average server seems to be full pop)

    here are the US server stats: www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ (average server seems to be medium pop)



    But blizz need to do somthing to bring ppl back to azeroth.

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  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400
    Originally posted by cupertino

    Well the expansion did increase the size of the world by around 50%, making azeroth a ghost town that didn't help make feel the world full, unless you go to outlands ofc. 



    Blizzard have been giving free transfers from full realms to low pop realms too to spread players around a bit, but I think we're far from the need to merge servers ATM.



    here are the EU sever stats: www.wow-europe.com/en/serverstatus/ (average server seems to be full pop)

    here are the US server stats: www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ (average server seems to be medium pop)



    But blizz need to do somthing to bring ppl back to azeroth.
    with games like LOTRO,AOC, and WAR coming out this year i think blizzard will lose more then half of they subscribers on NA and EU, btw already started to lose on NA it seems they only have 800k subscribers there.
  • AethiosAethios Member Posts: 1,527

    Keep guessing guys. Just don't hurt yourself trying to imagine up all these pretend numbers.

    Server merges? In WoW? What a joke.

  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509
    Originally posted by Quingu

    with games like LOTRO,AOC, and WAR coming out this year i think blizzard will lose more then half of they subscribers on NA and EU, btw already started to lose on NA it seems they only have 800k subscribers there.



    WoW Quingu, that is the THIRD post you make that is complete BS.  Why don't you try to show some proof with your mindless drivel, oh that's right!

    You have none.

  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400
    Originally posted by Aethios


    Keep guessing guys. Just don't hurt yourself trying to imagine up all these pretend numbers.
    Server merges? In WoW? What a joke.
    who is asking for them is the WOW players, if they asking means the servers are empty witch means people are leaving the game.
  • AethiosAethios Member Posts: 1,527


    Originally posted by Quingu
    Originally posted by Aethios Keep guessing guys. Just don't hurt yourself trying to imagine up all these pretend numbers.
    Server merges? In WoW? What a joke.
    who is asking for them is the WOW players, if they asking means the servers are empty witch means people are leaving the game.

    It might also mean they are just stupid.

    It might also mean they are playing at the wrong time.

    It might also mean their server is broken and they need to move to a different one (as everyone else already has, apparently).

    It might also mean you're just making stuff up to make WoW look bad.

    Don't automatically assume that what a few people say is true for the whole game.

  • alyndalealyndale Member UncommonPosts: 936
    Anyone know when these mergers are to take place and what servers are to be merged?

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  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400
    Originally posted by shae

    Originally posted by Quingu

    with games like LOTRO,AOC, and WAR coming out this year i think blizzard will lose more then half of they subscribers on NA and EU, btw already started to lose on NA it seems they only have 800k subscribers there.



    WoW Quingu, that is the THIRD post you make that is complete BS.  Why don't you try to show some proof with your mindless drivel, oh that's right!

    You have none.

    i'm not making nothing up the complains come from WOW forums and are the WOW players who is complaining. they sign that thread for merge. there is alot more threads about it if you do a search.





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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,998
    Originally posted by Quingu

    who is asking for them is the WOW players, if they asking means the servers are empty witch means people are leaving the game.

    It doesn't mean people are leaving the game, it means people are leaving the server. WoW EU had similar problem with a few PvP servers a while back, there were lots of low population PvP servers, and some of them just didn't have enough players. Then many people playing on those servers rerolled or migrated to play on servers with larger population, and the population on those low pop servers declined even more.

    If I remember correctly the problem fixed itself that time on its own as WoW player base increased, the amount of low pop servers and recommended servers decreased, and people created more new characters on those "dying" servers.



     
  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509
    Originally posted by Quingu

    Originally posted by shae

    Originally posted by Quingu

    with games like LOTRO,AOC, and WAR coming out this year i think blizzard will lose more then half of they subscribers on NA and EU, btw already started to lose on NA it seems they only have 800k subscribers there.



    WoW Quingu, that is the THIRD post you make that is complete BS.  Why don't you try to show some proof with your mindless drivel, oh that's right!

    You have none.

    i'm not making nothing up the complains come from WOW forums and are the WOW players who is complaining. they sign that thread for merge. there is alot more threads about it if you do a search.





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    forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html



    WOW, OMG !!! I whole two threads, 5 more if I search. Out of millions that play WoW... damn fine resuls.

    Listen, I know it's hard, but use the smallest amount of common sense known to exist in a human being.

    Let's just go off into LALA Land and PRETEND that WoW only has 100 server, let's go a step further and PRETEND those servers have between at minimum 8,000 people per if you average out. That RIGHT THERE is your supposed 800,000 people. Do you see why your number is so incredibly silly now?

    Now, taking into account that WoW has over twice that amount of servers and 60% of it's servers has nearly 3 times that amount in population. AND THAT IS ACCOUNTED FOR. It's not fiction, or hearsay, it's as close to fact as we'll ever get from a Blizzard Server.

    Read Warcraftrealms.com and educate yourself for the love of god, stop spouting out crap like you have a semblence of what your talking about.

  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810
    WoW hadn’t actually opened many new servers in the year before TBC launched, and many of the existing servers stabilized or dropped in population so it’s not like they were attracting a lot of new players in North America over the last year.

     

    TBC probably created some big issues because a lot of people returned for a short period of time.  They had to do some server splits to accommodate that initial rush but I doubt the returning players stayed long on average.  Add in the people that were waiting on TBC, played it and left and you have a recipe for too many servers for the size of the player base.  

     

    I doubt this is a problem in Europe where the population still seems to be climbing, but in NA they probably have to many servers to fill.
  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400
    Originally posted by shae

    Originally posted by Quingu

    Originally posted by shae

    Originally posted by Quingu

    with games like LOTRO,AOC, and WAR coming out this year i think blizzard will lose more then half of they subscribers on NA and EU, btw already started to lose on NA it seems they only have 800k subscribers there.



    WoW Quingu, that is the THIRD post you make that is complete BS.  Why don't you try to show some proof with your mindless drivel, oh that's right!

    You have none.

    i'm not making nothing up the complains come from WOW forums and are the WOW players who is complaining. they sign that thread for merge. there is alot more threads about it if you do a search.





    forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html



    forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html



    WOW, OMG !!! I whole two threads, 5 more if I search. Out of millions that play WoW... damn fine resuls.

    Listen, I know it's hard, but use the smallest amount of common sense known to exist in a human being.

    Let's just go off into LALA Land and PRETEND that WoW only has 100 server, let's go a step further and PRETEND those servers have between at minimum 8,000 people per if you average out. That RIGHT THERE is your supposed 800,000 people. Do you see why your number is so incredibly silly now?

    Now, taking into account that WoW has over twice that amount of servers and 60% of it's servers has nearly 3 times that amount in population. AND THAT IS ACCOUNTED FOR. It's not fiction, or hearsay, it's as close to fact as we'll ever get from a Blizzard Server.

    Read Warcraftrealms.com and educate yourself for the love of god, stop spouting out crap like you have a semblence of what your talking about.

    haha if its all lies why blizzard just deleted the thread that said only 800K subscribers on NA servers?







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    blizzard has 220 servers on NA and if it has 800k subscribers lets say 20% of that will be logged in at pic times witch means you will have about 727 players per server. unless you think that 800k will loggin at same time lol



     your post doesn't make sense at all...so you telling me each wow server has 24k people? LOL
  • KnightblastKnightblast Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    Quingu rather than spouting BS why not look at warcraftrealms?  That site validates the number of characters on each server.  Go take a look and you'll see why the numbers you've cooked up based on your own speculations a widely at odds with the facts.
  • CabeB2323CabeB2323 Member Posts: 10
    Originally posted by shae

    Originally posted by Quingu

    Originally posted by shae

    Originally posted by Quingu

    with games like LOTRO,AOC, and WAR coming out this year i think blizzard will lose more then half of they subscribers on NA and EU, btw already started to lose on NA it seems they only have 800k subscribers there.



    WoW Quingu, that is the THIRD post you make that is complete BS.  Why don't you try to show some proof with your mindless drivel, oh that's right!

    You have none.

    i'm not making nothing up the complains come from WOW forums and are the WOW players who is complaining. they sign that thread for merge. there is alot more threads about it if you do a search.





    forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html



    forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html



    WOW, OMG !!! I whole two threads, 5 more if I search. Out of millions that play WoW... damn fine resuls.

    Listen, I know it's hard, but use the smallest amount of common sense known to exist in a human being.

    Let's just go off into LALA Land and PRETEND that WoW only has 100 server, let's go a step further and PRETEND those servers have between at minimum 8,000 people per if you average out. That RIGHT THERE is your supposed 800,000 people. Do you see why your number is so incredibly silly now?

    Now, taking into account that WoW has over twice that amount of servers and 60% of it's servers has nearly 3 times that amount in population. AND THAT IS ACCOUNTED FOR. It's not fiction, or hearsay, it's as close to fact as we'll ever get from a Blizzard Server.

    Read Warcraftrealms.com and educate yourself for the love of god, stop spouting out crap like you have a semblence of what your talking about.



    Using Warcraftrealms for information is rediculous.  They don't take into account active subscribers for one,  plus they list every character not individual accounts. 

    For instance they list both of my characters on coilfang even though my account is closed.  Those two characters according to Warcraft realms count as part of their horde population. 

    You can tell that their numbers are complete BS when you see their total number being over 4 million on just the US servers.  That is total rubbish.  Right now in NA Blizzard would be doing well still having 1 million active subscribers.  And by the end of the year I would suspect them to be well below 500K in NA.  Now worldwide I wouldn't be suprised to see their numbers increase.  Especially in the Asian countries. :)

     

  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400
    Originally posted by Novaseeker

    Quingu rather than spouting BS why not look at warcraftrealms?  That site validates the number of characters on each server.  Go take a look and you'll see why the numbers you've cooked up based on your own speculations a widely at odds with the facts.
    well that says 7.5mill for all servers and its charaters not accounts.



    www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php
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