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Put WoW on the top 10 and take those crap games off.

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  • godleydemongodleydemon Member Posts: 20
    I'm sorry but I absolutely hate this game I played the trial version of it and hated every minute of it. Plus why go out and pay 50 bucks for a game then turn around and pay monthly for it. It makes no sense to me and I hate these types of games. Matrix Online tried to do it and failed miserably. The only paid monthly game worth any attention now adays is City Of Heroes. Its a very good game and I find worth in paying for. Though I won't because I still stand by my beliefs that a paid monthly game is ridiculous and I just won't do it.

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  • LordcrapalotLordcrapalot Member Posts: 191

    [quote]Originally posted by Maddiee
    [quote]Originally posted by daetheven
    [quote]Originally posted by Maddiee


    Originally posted by daetheven
    {Mod edit}
    Lets keep this civil.

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  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979

    now obviously if wow isnt up on the top ten then the majority of people must not believe it should be up there.  if they do then they should of rated it.  anyways wow isnt all that great.  it sucks alot of time out of you and alot of people dont like that. the pvp isnt all that great.  people jump around alot and thats stupid.  plus its cartoony.  i personally dont like cartoony.  dungeons take like 5 hours to complete.  i could go watch 2 movies and have lunch with some of my friends in that amount of time.  if i wanted to play that long i may as well get a job doing that.  it was also very hard for me to find a group to do a quest.  i did most of them with my friends but they screwed me over by goin to different places and doin different stuff without me.  i tried to go with them but they move around too much. 

  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544
    Originally posted by godleydemon

    I'm sorry but I absolutely hate this game I played the trial version of it and hated every minute of it. Plus why go out and pay 50 bucks for a game then turn around and pay monthly for it. It makes no sense to me and I hate these types of games. Matrix Online tried to do it and failed miserably. The only paid monthly game worth any attention now adays is City Of Heroes. Its a very good game and I find worth in paying for. Though I won't because I still stand by my beliefs that a paid monthly game is ridiculous and I just won't do it.



    The way I look at it, is that over time the mmo saves you money even if it is 15 bucks a month. The mmorpgs never end, there is always something to do.

    Console games get replaced every 2-3 weeks.

    If I buy a 50 dollar mmorpg, and get 1 free month, and then pay 15 bucks a month for the other 11 months I pay 215 dollars for games that year.

    11x15 = 165 + 50 = 215.

    If I have to buy a new console game every two weeks:

    50 x  26 weeks = 1300

    If I have to buy a new console game every 3 weeks:

    50 x 866

    A new game per month?

    50 x 12 = 600

    A new game every 2 months?

    50 x 6 = 300.

    All much more expensive than just playing 1 mmorpg for a year, and in most cases you can play mmorpgs for 2+ years, which the longer you go, the more money you save.

    Sorry, I just don't buy the I refuse to pay 15 bucks a month for a game theory.

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  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979

    the way i see it is if your willing to pay for it than its worth the money.  if you want to pay 15bucks a month for a game go ahead.  if you think its worth it fine.  if not then dont.  its not that hard.

  • godleydemongodleydemon Member Posts: 20

    {Mod edit}

    I'm sorry but for one I'm not a child I have a job I pay taxes and I enjoy to play a good MMORPG from time to time when I have the actual time to enjoy it. And for one, I refuse to pay for a game monthly and I can't enjoy fully because it is a load of horse Sh*t I hate the game pure and simple. I game like that should be a free monthly MMORPG I may consider it if this happens because its not worth 15 bucks a month to play on. I can't stand this game and I don't even think it should be recommended by anyone.

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  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544
    Somebody made a new account just to bash a game with no reasoning other than " it should not be pay to play, it should not be pay to play" .

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  • MaddieeMaddiee Member Posts: 43
    Originally posted by ASmith84


    now obviously if wow isnt up on the top ten then the majority of people must not believe it should be up there.  if they do then they should of rated it.  anyways wow isnt all that great.  it sucks alot of time out of you and alot of people dont like that. the pvp isnt all that great.  people jump around alot and thats stupid.  plus its cartoony.  i personally dont like cartoony.  dungeons take like 5 hours to complete.  i could go watch 2 movies and have lunch with some of my friends in that amount of time.  if i wanted to play that long i may as well get a job doing that.  it was also very hard for me to find a group to do a quest.  i did most of them with my friends but they screwed me over by goin to different places and doin different stuff without me.  i tried to go with them but they move around too much. 

     

     

    Lol so they jump around too much and ur friends do things without you, so u hate wow.  LOL pure classic.

  • godleydemongodleydemon Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by whitedelight

    Originally posted by godleydemon

    I'm sorry but I absolutely hate this game I played the trial version of it and hated every minute of it. Plus why go out and pay 50 bucks for a game then turn around and pay monthly for it. It makes no sense to me and I hate these types of games. Matrix Online tried to do it and failed miserably. The only paid monthly game worth any attention now adays is City Of Heroes. Its a very good game and I find worth in paying for. Though I won't because I still stand by my beliefs that a paid monthly game is ridiculous and I just won't do it.



    The way I look at it, is that over time the mmo saves you money even if it is 15 bucks a month. The mmorpgs never end, there is always something to do.

    Console games get replaced every 2-3 weeks.

    If I buy a 50 dollar mmorpg, and get 1 free month, and then pay 15 bucks a month for the other 11 months I pay 215 dollars for games that year.

    11x15 = 165 + 50 = 215.

    If I have to buy a new console game every two weeks:

    50 x  26 weeks = 1300

    If I have to buy a new console game every 3 weeks:

    50 x 866

    A new game per month?

    50 x 12 = 600

    A new game every 2 months?

    50 x 6 = 300.

    All much more expensive than just playing 1 mmorpg for a year, and in most cases you can play mmorpgs for 2+ years, which the longer you go, the more money you save.

    Sorry, I just don't buy the I refuse to pay 15 bucks a month for a game theory.

    well why pay at all when you can play Ragnarok Online Private Servers. Flyff, Guild Wars. all these games are decent in all there respects and I incredibly enjoy every one of them. You still get all the functionality of the paid MMORPG's like constant new content. Updates. Contests anything that you can think of that would be in a paid MMO is in these games as well and there free monthly. I'm sorry but I hold fast to the I won't pay 15 bucks a month for a game theory. and will still refuse to do it.

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  • godleydemongodleydemon Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by whitedelight

    Somebody made a new account just to bash a game with no reasoning other than " it should not be pay to play, it should not be pay to play" .
    Actually no I created the account to enter a contest seen an opportunity took it and now I'm enjoying the site emmensly besides being called a child and an alt and being told that my standards in games is unfounded and should be rethought through

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  • godleydemongodleydemon Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Maddiee

    Originally posted by godleydemon

    Originally posted by whitedelight

    Originally posted by godleydemon

    I'm sorry but I absolutely hate this game I played the trial version of it and hated every minute of it. Plus why go out and pay 50 bucks for a game then turn around and pay monthly for it. It makes no sense to me and I hate these types of games. Matrix Online tried to do it and failed miserably. The only paid monthly game worth any attention now adays is City Of Heroes. Its a very good game and I find worth in paying for. Though I won't because I still stand by my beliefs that a paid monthly game is ridiculous and I just won't do it.



    The way I look at it, is that over time the mmo saves you money even if it is 15 bucks a month. The mmorpgs never end, there is always something to do.

    Console games get replaced every 2-3 weeks.

    If I buy a 50 dollar mmorpg, and get 1 free month, and then pay 15 bucks a month for the other 11 months I pay 215 dollars for games that year.

    11x15 = 165 + 50 = 215.

    If I have to buy a new console game every two weeks:

    50 x  26 weeks = 1300

    If I have to buy a new console game every 3 weeks:

    50 x 866

    A new game per month?

    50 x 12 = 600

    A new game every 2 months?

    50 x 6 = 300.

    All much more expensive than just playing 1 mmorpg for a year, and in most cases you can play mmorpgs for 2+ years, which the longer you go, the more money you save.

    Sorry, I just don't buy the I refuse to pay 15 bucks a month for a game theory.

    well why pay at all when you can play Ragnarok Online Private Servers. Flyff, Guild Wars. all these games are decent in all there respects and I incredibly enjoy every one of them. You still get all the functionality of the paid MMORPG's like constant new content. Updates. Contests anything that you can think of that would be in a paid MMO is in these games as well and there free monthly. I'm sorry but I hold fast to the I won't pay 15 bucks a month for a game theory. and will still refuse to do it.

     

    Lol ur talking about ragnorak private server and flyff, lol.

     

    Go sit in the corner and face the wall.

    Corrupt mod delete this thread now, before people actaully find out, the amount of people posting with alts on this site.

    dear god man, how can you not enjoy Flyff and Ragnarok Online, I love these games because of the enjoyable graphics and game play. The quests everything about them I enjoy I play Flyff every night and enjoy doing it. For one there both free, for two there both MMORPG's and for three Flyff has some damn good graphics for a free MMO. and I'm not an Alt.

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  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544
    Neither the graphics, nor the gameplay is that good in Flyff or Rag. How is the crafting in those games? How is the raiding in those games? How is the pvp?

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  • godleydemongodleydemon Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by whitedelight

    Neither the graphics, nor the gameplay is that good in Flyff or Rag. How is the crafting in those games? How is the raiding in those games? How is the pvp?
    I enjoy the pvp in Flyff as well as the crafting. I didn't say Rag had good graphics but I did say Flyff did I do believe it has some decent graphics for a free MMO its a Japanimation based game so of course people are going to be looking at it like "huh?" Plus the raiding in Flyff isn't bad either. Ragnarok is one of those games I enjoy immensly because the ability to create your own server and then add all sorts of things to it is so incredibly easy now. Theres servers now with completely new worlds and outfits and its all free.

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  • graillgraill Member Posts: 257
    Originally posted by Foodoolaws


    right now RIGHT NOW. EQ2 how the hell is EQ2 up there? The game was based off WoW after it was released, when it was releaseld it was a crappy version of EQ 1  sony patched up EQ2 to become a WOW like game. And dont say it didnt because it did. WoW gets no respect it deserves its a very fun game and though end game tends to lack WoW is still a blast. EQ2 armor all looks the same, clay models its horrible.
     
    How dare you if i wernt a gentlemen id slap you all in the face but this is not a threat cause iam a gentlemen and wont slap you all in the face.



    wow is garbage. wow is crap. wow does alot right and more wrong.

    let me explain to you op why so many play. this of course being my opinion. and why it should never make the top ten.

    its laughably easy to play, wow takes ZERO skill, macro's make this game a minimal button or click fest, even the most dim play wow like experts with macros, some even tout " i have more than 60 keystrokes for macros memorized" easy street. wow has tons of quests, some folks like that, some dont, but 5 mill SINGLE subs cant be wrong. that being said most of the quests are gopher quests, go get this, go get that, or simply kill 30 of these, etc, etc. nothing new and quite boring.

    the new devs have no imagination, nor do they have any idea where wow was supposed to go, in new i mean the huge crew that replaced the entire blizzard north team. they had to start from scratch, use footnotes and get aquainted with wow, hence we have what we see now, out of balance classes and powers, i simply cant call what the toons use "skills".

    even with the advent of BC nothing changed, same grinds, different look, exactly the same. no imagination.

    the devs would rather reply to useless banter on the forum boards that few people in game use, and then try to use what they see as a "picture" of what the whole community wants, a miniscule demographic visiting the boards from the overall population and clueless devs drive wow in a slogging direction, pitiful.

    the next pretty thing. interesting, its what kids and addicts need. regardless of age, wow has some of the best mind altering artists around. i have never seen more "i need that!! omfg!!" in my life, the itemization experts need grammys for doing a superb job, they are much better than drug dealers or pimps and to get your fix is only 15 or so bucks a month.

    this is a game ran and controlled by the itemization artists and devs making the new items. when it comes right down to it, thats it. take away the "my precious" and what do you have, nothing.

    wow is on my kill list, i use it to pass time till "something better" comes along, lots on the horizon i am pleased to say. wow is the something that you hate to do but still feel obligated to play because of time invested, i feel sorry for those folks. i will continue to help my younger brother advance his toon on his offtime, i wont pay for a sub though, its not worth it.

    so you have no immersion, no story, no live events, no dev interaction to the whole player base let alone the small percentage posting on the boards,  no sanity checks on itemization (items gone wild as i call them), no unique content, no random content, no pvp, no live dev q and a nights, what is there that warrants a top ten, to be perfectly frank, nothing, not even the upcoming patches to try and stave off the new mmo's will not save wow. top ten, not.

    wow will become more and more "monty hall" with devs giving to little, to late to try and keep subs when the new mmo's come out, hell, the french owners even have starcraft on the horizon as an mmo, they want ALL of the blizzard franchizes in mmo format, NO THANK YOU.

    to the french owners that influence this game i say this, keep your game, better ones are coming out. and i simply dont like the way you folks do business.

     

     

     

     

    can you smell that?!!...............there is nothing quite like it.....................the smell of troll in the morning............i love that smell.

  • FreddyNoNoseFreddyNoNose Member Posts: 1,558
    WOw could be #1, if/when it deserves to be there.  It is just a matter of votes. 
  • CereoCereo Member Posts: 551
    Haha, to the people that said most people on here are UO or SWG people with hatred...



    I won't lie, I played UO for 4 years, through the good and the bad. I just stopped one day because I said "its time to stop". From there, I played every game under the sun for the PC. I've played nearly every MMO there is that is remotely good. I don't know about others, but I do hate what WoW has done to MMORPGs. It copied every idea it has and made it easy and fun for everyone. I'm glad because it sparked MMOs to the masses but yes, it also killed the community we had.



    I hate "This is a copy off of WoW" and "This game sucks, its like WoW but not as good". And I see these people say that about like CoH, which is nothing like WoW. The Team Leader of WoW was right to leave and make his own company because WoW stagnated MMOs for years to come. I will continue to look for that game that I have to tell myself after 4 years that I HAVE to stop, like I did with UO. In closing, WoW is a good game but it ruined original MMOs for years to come.
  • wjrasmussenwjrasmussen Member Posts: 1,493

    This dead horse still getting hit? lol.

  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by Maddiee


    You keep taling about first time gamers blah blah blah, and that whoever playes wow are forst time gamers.  Please actually produce some evidence to yor claim.
     
    Let me tell you imo, that hafl the people playing wow are probably people from all other mmos, such as EQ, SWG, DAOC, EVE, Ao, UO et etc etc.
     
    Please tell me if the so called older gamers or the uber hardcore players were ac6tually -playing any of these games, why are there a handfull of players only  left in these games.  NOT even in the thousadns maybe hunderds.  I will tell you why because they are all playing wow thats why.  Alot of the games on this site were out before wow, so did the uber hardcore old gamers still not play them?
    Daoc=dead
    Matrix online=dead With good reason
    swg=dead
    eq=dead
    AO=dead
    Uo=dead
    planetside=dead
    Eq2= semi dead, but still more players than the games ive mentioned.     This one is actually growing.
    D&d=dead
    Vanguard=dead         Its really too early to say this about vanguard needs about 4 onths before one can judge it properly.
    Coh=dead
    Final fantasy=dead
     
    List goes on and on, all the games with the expeception of EQ2 are praictically dead, or have a 100 or so people left playing them.  please dont come on here and say the only people that play wow are new or causal gamers.   Let me correct you, the only people that [play wow are the people that realise that the other mmos on this corrupted site are dead, and have flocekd to wow from al the other old games here. 
     
    Err you left out some other game si see that are in the top 10 here sucha s eve and pls dont say its a dead game.

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  • premiereboripremierebori Member Posts: 249
    There are many definitions of "good", but I think the most important two goods are:

    1. Fun

    2. Fun for hardcore audience.



    I doubt these can coexist.
  • bryanAbryanA Member Posts: 62
    Let me be the first to say that I don't play WoW. But seriously WoW up agianst Guild Wars LOLZ. Don't let it get to you because remember subs speak louder than words. And the rating system just shows how stupid most people in this community really are. We all know WoW is the best that is currently out there, just  people are always hating just like IRL.
  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by bryanA

    Let me be the first to say that I don't play WoW. But seriously WoW up agianst Guild Wars LOLZ. Don't let it get to you because remember subs speak louder than words. And the rating system just shows how stupid most people in this community really are. We all know WoW is the best that is currently out there, just  people are always hating just like IRL.
    Seriously its people like you that give the WoW community a bad name here.

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  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544
    He doesn't play WoW.

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  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979
    why dont you guys quit whinin over this and do somthin about it?  if you honustly think wow is the best than give it all 10s and pray everyone else does the same.  but it doesnt happen because not everyone thinks its the best.  for that reason its not in the top ten.  you can try to convince people otherwise but unless people start rating it nothin will happen.
  • khragkhrag Member Posts: 184
    Originally posted by BizkitNL


     WoW isnt perfect, but it sure is awesome. Denying this means you either didnt like it the moment you logged on (Which can be the case, tastes differ after all), or you have no clue what youre talking about.



    Well, you are plain wrong. I played for a year, I liked it at first cause it was easy and I leveled up quick. Then I hit the cap (60 at the time) and the game I played was now gone (I solo a lot).  So I tried to make a new toon, but it kept nagging at me, that I was just going to run into the same problem again. Eventually, I added up the fun of the game and compared it to it's downsides (pointless crafting, end game forced playing style, log on line ups, and lets not forget Tuesday shutdowns) and decided I was enjoying the game as much as it was frustrating me.

    I can't understand how people can think that EQII is copying WoW. Sure, they probably took some ideas that WoW did (IE mail) and incorperated it inyo their game. Isn't that the way all american busineses are run? Steal the good ideas, change them a wee bit and claim them as your own? But as many others have said, EQII is a sequal to a game which is MUCH older than WoW. In fact, one might say WoW copied EQ! After all they all have Dwarves and elves and orcs! OOh, wait! I know, they all copied LotRO because Tolkein wrote the Hobbit back in 1932 (I believe).

     

    And to the arguement that because 8 million people play it, it must mean it's the best. Well, in 2005 40.9 million HIV/AIDS cases were reported worldwide. Does that mean we should all like aids? Of course not.

     

    Finally to the OP. Get over it. The top ten are voted on by people who use this site. If you don't agree with how the other people vote, leave, or do something about it. But to come on and say it should be there and the rest are crap, is insulting to the rest of us who don't like WoW. (although I think the list needs adjustments, CoH and CoV should not both be there. That is like having EQII and EQII:EoF on the list. Have a second list for expansions maybe, and yes, I clasify CoV as an expansion)

     

    Well, enough of your time has been wasted byt this old wind bag.  Ciao

    I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self.
    --Aristotle

  • godleydemongodleydemon Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Maddiee


    You keep taling about first time gamers blah blah blah, and that whoever playes wow are forst time gamers.  Please actually produce some evidence to yor claim.
     
    Let me tell you imo, that hafl the people playing wow are probably people from all other mmos, such as EQ, SWG, DAOC, EVE, Ao, UO et etc etc.
     
    Please tell me if the so called older gamers or the uber hardcore players were ac6tually -playing any of these games, why are there a handfull of players only  left in these games.  NOT even in the thousadns maybe hunderds.  I will tell you why because they are all playing wow thats why.  Alot of the games on this site were out before wow, so did the uber hardcore old gamers still not play them?
    Daoc=dead
    Matrix online=dead With good reason
    swg=dead
    eq=dead
    AO=dead
    Uo=dead
    planetside=dead
    Eq2= semi dead, but still more players than the games ive mentioned.     This one is actually growing.
    D&d=dead
    Vanguard=dead         Its really too early to say this about vanguard needs about 4 onths before one can judge it properly.
    Coh=dead
    Final fantasy=dead
     
    List goes on and on, all the games with the expeception of EQ2 are praictically dead, or have a 100 or so people left playing them.  please dont come on here and say the only people that play wow are new or causal gamers.   Let me correct you, the only people that [play wow are the people that realise that the other mmos on this corrupted site are dead, and have flocekd to wow from al the other old games here. 
     
    Err you left out some other game si see that are in the top 10 here sucha s eve and pls dont say its a dead game.

    I'm sorry but let me refrase your comment in the matter of MMO's according to ratings and user registrations.


    Daoc=dead (actually is dying out)


    Matrix online=dead With good reason (Yes I completely agree with you)


    swg=dead
    eq=dead(actually still has a big fan base and isn't dying but growing very slowely still)


    AO=dead
    Uo=dead
    planetside=dead (thank god it died)


    Eq2= semi dead, but still more players than the games ive mentioned.     This one is actually growing.


    D&d=dead (in all actual this game is actually just slowely dying by jumping all over the place.)


    Vanguard=dead         Its really too early to say this about vanguard needs about 4 onths before one can judge it properly. (never played or cared to)


    Coh=dead (your completely wrong about this game its growing at a rapid pace with no end in site)
    so you see... this is the right quote.


    Final fantasy=dead

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