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Free MMORPG's suck. Yes, the one you're playing too.

gillvane1gillvane1 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,503
Title pretty much says it. Either the game just plain sucks, OR it is close to decent (but honestly I havent' seen one yet) and you have to buy items from the cash store, which means it isn't really free.



I can't for the life of me understand why anyone plays the free MMORPGs, since they are so craptacular. Have you ever bought a new computer game? They usually cost around 50 bucks. That's enough money to pay for a few months subscription to a decent MMORPG, rather than playing some free piece of doo doo. Go sell some lemonade, or save your allowance, and buy a decent game and pay the sub if you want to play online, IMO. The "free" stuff is nothing more than a waste of bandwidth.
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  • anastaiaanastaia Member Posts: 55


    Rather harsh don't you think? yea ill admit a free game normally doesn't come up to par with a large Scale Released project but.. people have their own Preferances. i cant say i agree with them.. (im sorry Runescape lovers) Runescape for example. it is the worst thing i have ever seen in my exsistance on this earth. but.. there are many many users who still cherish the thing as if it is a god send. why? its beyond me but it is their choice to (im sorry again) waste there time on something that has little chance of showing improvment. That overall would have to be my biggest take on the free MMO Envionment if you dont mind that its probably going to be buggy. or not get updated often or with quality. then sure you may find it fun. But for use Seasoned MMO players if the world dosent change or dosent get better. it gets dull. so i understand why you may not like free mmos... but to each their own! they all have a right to like what they want. (i hope some one else agrees)







    (again im sorry runescape players. for more ways than you can possibly imagine)

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by gillvane1

    Title pretty much says it. Either the game just plain sucks, OR it is close to decent (but honestly I havent' seen one yet) and you have to buy items from the cash store, which means it isn't really free.



    I can't for the life of me understand why anyone plays the free MMORPGs, since they are so craptacular. Have you ever bought a new computer game? They usually cost around 50 bucks. That's enough money to pay for a few months subscription to a decent MMORPG, rather than playing some free piece of doo doo. Go sell some lemonade, or save your allowance, and buy a decent game and pay the sub if you want to play online, IMO. The "free" stuff is nothing more than a waste of bandwidth.
    And its impossible some people might have a different opinion then you do and are actually enjoying these games?



    Also, you can play an item shop game for free without paying for anything.
  • ShadrakShadrak Member Posts: 375
    you get what you pay for.
  • thetankthetank Member Posts: 200
    Runescape, SilkRoad, Flyff and Rapellz are examples of "free games" that are quite amusing but they lack longevity..

    Still alot of people play it and enjoy it and some cant even afford to play games with monthly fees.



    And Guild Wars is a free game altough you'll have to buy the CD and it's GREAT.



    Oh and was it isnt up to you tell if the games sucks or no.. its up to the player base that support it...

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  • anastaiaanastaia Member Posts: 55
    But if you like what you are playing... who is anyone to judge?

    honestly why is it anyones problem if i like apples that fell of the tree .. while you like bananas that you bought from the store

    just becuse you bought it dosent nesseacarly make it better.. (though there is a great chance that it will be)

    just becuse a game is free dosent make it impossible to be somewhat enjoyable



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  • narakuunarakuu Member Posts: 348
    As far as I know Granado Espada is going to be free and that looks like it is gonna rock. Of course I cant say anything for sure but atleast I hope it will, there isnt any mmorpg out there that I feel deserves my money anyway.
  • ForcanForcan Member UncommonPosts: 700
    Originally posted by gillvane1

    Title pretty much says it. Either the game just plain sucks, OR it is close to decent (but honestly I havent' seen one yet) and you have to buy items from the cash store, which means it isn't really free.



    I can't for the life of me understand why anyone plays the free MMORPGs, since they are so craptacular. Have you ever bought a new computer game? They usually cost around 50 bucks. That's enough money to pay for a few months subscription to a decent MMORPG, rather than playing some free piece of doo doo. Go sell some lemonade, or save your allowance, and buy a decent game and pay the sub if you want to play online, IMO. The "free" stuff is nothing more than a waste of bandwidth.
    It's sad that you haven't seen a good free MMORPG, but truthfully, they are NOT made to cater toward gamers like you.  You see, the idea of free MMORPGs with item shops are the more popular method in the Asian market, and it has been adapt by US game company for some games.  As for free MMORPGs, they might not peak your interest, but there are certainly others who would play them.  So play what you want, and don't go putting down other people's game.



    Yes, they may "suck" in your eyes, but they might be appeal to another group of gamers.  And for many new game company, you got to start somewhere, and using the idea of Free Game but with purchase, or Free Game with Item shop, can help them start up and get into the business.

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  • zxnyzxny Member Posts: 59

    This post is either a rant or a flame. Either way Im not gonna give a response but will point something out that is flawed. A good game costs 50 bucks or so yes. Then you don't have to pay for it again(exceptions for this rule are games like oblivion) and get entirley new games. Half-Life 2, BF2, UT, etc. there are complete total conversion mods for these games. Those in a sense are free games in there own, and many people play them /shocked. Look at the college project done in half life 2, it is now a charged game that pe ople pay for. The offical Half-Life 2 members picked the mod up and are now selling it to the xbox360 version. Not bad for a free game ya?

     

    Also one more point I need to make. Most mmo's are not free to get the client...You pointed out you have to pay a sub every month, so 3 months is about how much a normal game costs. Except that most mmorpg's cost 50 bucks alone just to get the client. Then you pay for sub's. MMORPG's cost much more then your average game. Be more careful when expressing your point my friend. To give people a false impression in a arguement is like stabing yourself in the heart.

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  • sagaskysagasky Member Posts: 5

     

    Originally posted by gillvane1

    Title pretty much says it. Either the game just plain sucks, OR it is close to decent (but honestly I havent' seen one yet) and you have to buy items from the cash store, which means it isn't really free.



    I can't for the life of me understand why anyone plays the free MMORPGs, since they are so craptacular. Have you ever bought a new computer game? They usually cost around 50 bucks. That's enough money to pay for a few months subscription to a decent MMORPG, rather than playing some free piece of doo doo. Go sell some lemonade, or save your allowance, and buy a decent game and pay the sub if you want to play online, IMO. The "free" stuff is nothing more than a waste of bandwidth.
    Well then, guess you cant fathom that some people believe there are more important things to spend money on rather than paying monthly for a game. Also, it has been said that the old method of paying monthly for games is, tired and..old. Companies are trying new ways to make mmorpgs free, albiet with ads, or item mall's. To me paying an x amount of money a month AND spend most of your time just leveling, to maybe just..I dunno loose all that progress when you get killed, that's asking a bit too much. Not worth the cash.Also you have to consider real life things that you have to pay for.
  • RichandRichand Member Posts: 7
    Originally posted by anastaia

    But if you like what you are playing... who is anyone to judge?

    honestly why is it anyones problem if i like apples that fell of the tree .. while you like bananas that you bought from the store

    lolol, great example. I must say I agree with anastaia. If people enjoy playing free games, what's the problem?

    Personnaly, I prefer games made by small companies or even games made by one or two programmers in their spare time. Don't ask me why, I just find it quite appealing.

  • NetherbeastNetherbeast Member Posts: 55
    Free MMO's certainly don't have the same production values of the biggies we all vote for and complain about on these boards, but what they do have is large amounts of players that do not have a credit card. That mean's under 18 players. These games are their chance to play many games without verifying they are older or getting their parents permission to charge $15 to play another game. The ones who can get their parents permission, usually spend the money on the in game shop once in a while.

    This is their chance to playe many mmos and may be their first exposure to the mmo environment. When money, age and experience come to them, they DO find the paid games to be superior and don't look back. I have a newphew who played Runescape religiously until he found Guild Wars and WoW. It kinda had that 'How did I ever believe santa was real' emotion to it.

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  • flood950flood950 Member Posts: 447
    I generally ignore posts that say someones choice of entertainment "sucks" because its nothing more than bashing what someone enjoys which will never make sense to me.



    It doesnt take a lot of reasoning to come to the conclusion that something free will not be of the same quality as something you pay for, at least typically, there are exceptions to most things.  Free games are generally good for those that do not have a lot of time to devote to their online gaming.  Even if you have a lot of cash to spend on entertainment, if you can only play an hour or two a week its hard to justify spending the same amount as someone that plays more than that a day.



    Also, for a lot of people that play that casually, the features that you get from P2P games may not matter that much.  The more detailed and expanded games are great for those that devote a lot of time to them, but if you just have an hour here and there to kill some stuff, I would say some of these games really dont "suck" overall as they are enough for the people playing them.
  • DrenethDreneth Member Posts: 697
    I wonder how many F2P games are set up as phishing sites for your credit card information.  Many do have item shops.  Others may just be laden with trojans.  It would be interesting to see the statistics.

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  • darkcoud9darkcoud9 Member UncommonPosts: 126
    Dude i think your OP is just your view and this is just your biased view on free games. There are people out there like under 16 etc who cant pay the monthly subs not becoz theyre poor maybe jus bcoz there parents dont want them to spend money on games.  Ask those people if the free games suck and they will say hell no..they are great.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Dreneth

    I wonder how many F2P games are set up as phishing sites for your credit card information.  Many do have item shops.  Others may just be laden with trojans.  It would be interesting to see the statistics.
    Um, none of them? They have a business reputation to keep up, just like pay to play MMO's.
  • DrenethDreneth Member Posts: 697

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Um, none of them? They have a business reputation to keep up, just like pay to play MMO's.



    hahahahaha...  hahahaha.... hahah...

    *phew* thanks for that. 

    Free software has always been a resource for hacks to get their trojans out there.  It's the Internet's dirty little secret.  To say that none of them are phishing tools is to say there are no criminals in your home town.  They may not all be criminals... but...

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Dreneth


    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Um, none of them? They have a business reputation to keep up, just like pay to play MMO's.



    hahahahaha...  hahahaha.... hahah...

    *phew* thanks for that. 

    Free software has always been a resource for hacks to get their trojans out there.  It's the Internet's dirty little secret.  To say that none of them are phishing tools is to say there are no criminals in your home town.  They may not all be criminals... but...

    Thing is, we are not dealing with "Play our game completely free!". Those games either have a cash shop or depend on a premium option. they need the money just as bad as a company like Blizzard and SOE do, as well as the reputation.
  • lemontreelemontree Member UncommonPosts: 59
    Originally posted by gillvane1

    Title pretty much says it. Either the game just plain sucks, OR it is close to decent (but honestly I havent' seen one yet) and you have to buy items from the cash store, which means it isn't really free.



    I can't for the life of me understand why anyone plays the free MMORPGs, since they are so craptacular. Have you ever bought a new computer game? They usually cost around 50 bucks. That's enough money to pay for a few months subscription to a decent MMORPG, rather than playing some free piece of doo doo. Go sell some lemonade, or save your allowance, and buy a decent game and pay the sub if you want to play online, IMO. The "free" stuff is nothing more than a waste of bandwidth.
    Spot on.
  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Guess what? Most paying MMOs these days are the same way.

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  • DrenethDreneth Member Posts: 697
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Thing is, we are not dealing with "Play our game completely free!". Those games either have a cash shop or depend on a premium option. they need the money just as bad as a company like Blizzard and SOE do, as well as the reputation.



    Ok... sure...  hehehe

    Besides... I stated I would love to see the statistics on this sort of thing, and stated that I wonder how many F2P games were phishing and/or virus scams.  I did not state that I thought it was a widespread issue.  I wouldn't be surprised, however, if it were. 

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  • DrenethDreneth Member Posts: 697
    Originally posted by Aelfinn

    Guess what? Most paying MMOs these days are the same way.
    Not nearly... I would put the F2P games in a much lower quality bracket then subscription based games anyday.

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  • Originally posted by Shadrak

    you get what you pay for.
    You got that right!!



    When people shell-out a measly $15 bucks a month - which is less than half of what it costs for a little kids school lunch each month - then they shouldn't expect to get a kick-ass state-of-the-art MMOG.



    I play the free MMOGs as a way of punishing greedy western MMOG publishers!



    As soon as a Sci-Fi/ cyberpunk MMOG is made that is/has...

    • Deeply immersive storyline and game play
    • Real-time photorealistic (artistically breathtaking) graphics at 2560 x 1600
    • excellent original musical tracks and great sound effects
    • Multithreaded

    • Total character customization
    • Talking NPC/Mobs/pets
    • At least 3 pet classes to choose from
    • very well thought-out crafting system
    • Spooky-smart AI
    • In-line voice alteration synthesizer

    • A well thought-out skill/class hybrid advancement system with hundreds of skills...class specific/general/perks

    • Little or no perceptible lag (if they can do this then they might as well make it a Virtual Reality MMOG)

    • excellent customer service
    ....that's when I'll start paying for a MMOG. And pay I will...up to $100 bucks a month, $300 if it's a Virtual Reality MMOG!



    But until then I'll be playing the free ones.
  • DrenethDreneth Member Posts: 697
    Originally posted by poopypants



    When people shell-out a measly $15 bucks a month - which is less than half of what it costs for a little kids school lunch each month - then they shouldn't expect to get a kick-ass state-of-the-art MMOG.



    Don't be a silly boy.

    Take, for example, a game population of 10,000 active subscriptions.  Now multiply that by $14.99.  You get $149,000.00 per month in revenue.  That's $1,798,800.00 annually on monthly subscriptions alone.  Retail sales cover the packaging design and distribution, and don't forget about expansion sales.  That's a hell of a balogna sandwich.

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  • almout30almout30 Member Posts: 93
    I tried most of the p2p mmorpgs out there that offer a trial. Unfortunately I couldn't play daoc because I lack a credit card.



    You are for the greatest part right about f2p mmorpgs, but you should think about the fact that some people might not be so demanding or might just not have the same experience like you maybe had in some spectacular mmorpg many years ago. So basicly we settle with less and just enjoy a free mmorpg with a nice clan and some good people.



    I have a powerfull computer and yet i play a free mmorpg, im not gona bother mention the game to avoid unnecessary flaming but i have my fun for 2 or 3 hours a day and thats good enough for me. Without a doubt I will keep an eye open for a p2p mmorpg that suits me but till then my free mmorpg is good enough



    And last but not least, why in gods name would you care about what people like to play and what not?
  • DrenethDreneth Member Posts: 697
    Originally posted by almout30



    And last but not least, why in gods name would you care about what people like to play and what not?



    Why do you care that I care? 

    It's a discussion on a forum.  That's all.

    I do, however, wish that the whole "gimmie gimmie" attitude would fall away.  So many people looking for something for nothing.  Every thread I see for a free game is one more subscription that could have gone to a decent game's development.  Others see it differently.  Life moves on.

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