just bought vanguard last friday and it kind of sucks so far. character creation is very weak, (use random on character creation and it looks exactly the same) just a copy/past of a few other mmorpg's.
the quests are a joke so far, talk to someone kill a few things to lvl up, then go to a new area and do the same.....
a forced party (option) would benifit some of these weaker mmorpg games.
same as any mmorpg. thats why warhammer is gonna rock...kill a mob get xp and loot... kill another player get xp and loot.
I love Vanbois. I make one comment about the quality of the OP's screenshot. Then Vanbois challenge me to post some LOTRO screens instead. I do. Then they get all defensive and go "well not EVERYTHING looks like that". And then of course my favourite line "people do anything to put a game down". You guys beleive whatever you want to. Subscription numbers don't lie. Later...
you hit the nail on the head with that last sentence there....wow >lotro/vg combined. later...
WOw, talk about someone coming in yo gain some sort of . Hey I have clout. I will jump in and be ref and show all who is right and wrong.
You know what I think. I think We just saw Deathstiny's second login account. Talk about backing himself up. Perfect timing there.
LOTRO is ALL filled with things so beautiful and vivid in color.
It gets gloomier as you get into the 30's
I know, I beta'd it for 6 months. I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO. Infact Patience would be calling me a traitor if she saw me posting here and so would my guild on LOTRO.
One thing that sucks in LOTRO. If you look at most high cliffs you will notice that the textures are stretched. I get the same affect with NwN2 toolset. Nothing really you can do about it other than raise the landscape to shrink it. However, still LOTRO landscape does look nice. But still I think they could have thought of a better why to do Lone-Lands. I think they got a level-entry guy to do that area. Doesn't look much like typical turbine work.
I beta'd as well for 6 months and from beta 1 I got to lvl 25 , playing every day. Beta 2 I got 23 and played Monster Play for a month, open beta to now I am lvl 31. And Unless you rolled every single race and class to 50 in 3 months time, you are 100% full of shit.
I love Vanbois. I make one comment about the quality of the OP's screenshot. Then Vanbois challenge me to post some LOTRO screens instead. I do. Then they get all defensive and go "well not EVERYTHING looks like that". And then of course my favourite line "people do anything to put a game down". You guys beleive whatever you want to. Subscription numbers don't lie. Later...
Huh? Excuse me? From what I've read, you didn't just make a "comment" about the quality. Youare the one that STARTED the "Challenge" of VG vs LOTRO by saying what you said. I quote:
Originally posted by Deathstiny
looks like LOTRO on medium graphics settings and texture detail turned to low. I never understood why Vanguard aims to show stuff in the distance at decent quality but completly fails at making anything up close look good.
Well, if I must say. When someone makes a statement like that it is only common sense to ask you to post some proof. But what did you do. You posted Turbine Art concepts and some edited screenshots that Turbine made for advertisment to comapre to a players screenshots. How lame can one get? Then to top that off you start WHINING about it and start calling everyone Vanbios. Well why don't you just go bakc to playing your BORING LOTRO game and stop coming in the VG forums you, YOu, YOu LOTROLL.
LOTRO is ALL filled with things so beautiful and vivid in color.
It gets gloomier as you get into the 30's
I know, I beta'd it for 6 months. I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO. Infact Patience would be calling me a traitor if she saw me posting here and so would my guild on LOTRO.
One thing that sucks in LOTRO. If you look at most high cliffs you will notice that the textures are stretched. I get the same affect with NwN2 toolset. Nothing really you can do about it other than raise the landscape to shrink it. However, still LOTRO landscape does look nice. But still I think they could have thought of a better why to do Lone-Lands. I think they got a level-entry guy to do that area. Doesn't look much like typical turbine work.
I beta'd as well for 6 months and from beta 1 I got to lvl 25 , playing every day. Beta 2 I got 23 and played Monster Play for a month, open beta to now I am lvl 31. And Unless you rolled every single race and class to 50 in 3 months time, you are 100% full of shit. i love how you lotro guys patrol ALL the other game forums just looking for someone bad mouthing lotro. you guys are worst than the vanbois pre release.
I just bought it myself and I've got to say it shows a lot of promise, but I'm not sold yet. A buddy of mine has had it for a while longer and says that it gets much better. Can anybody tell me a reason to get hooked or should I find a better MMORPG?
Too bad you can't get that HIGH in the Mountains in LOTRO to see any of their defects that show up at LONG distance views. Infact you cant even see the landscape of Lone-Lands when you are on top of Weathertop due to the distant rendering. At elast you can render things on the clipplane with VG. All you have to do in VG is lower the clipplane to do the same you get in LOTRO.
I wonder what all crap we would see in LOTRO if they expanded the clipplane. I bet a lot of textured totally distorted I am sure.
None the less, this is the kind of vast and amazing views you get in Vanguard. You see a mountain in the background, you can go to it. You see a mountain in LOTR and its a zone barrier.
None the less, this is the kind of vast and amazing views you get in Vanguard. You see a mountain in the background, you can go to it. You see a mountain in LOTR and its a zone barrier. What does that view have to do with me battling creation 2 inches from my avatar ? You see a Mountain because the developers know how computers render mass areas, they know the limits of today's hardware and wanted to make a game everyone can enjoy ?
No anti alaising on this one Also up close you can see his hair strands in his head hair. It doesn't show up on this screenie .
I rest my case. about what, I am just posting a pic cause you wanted to see one. The Models in LotRO are much more realistic then Vanguard models imho. The Vanguard are just mass produced Models that use a modeling tool set to make you feel like you have some control over how they look. The bottomline is , every model in Vanguard has the exact same rule and animation set .
LOLOLOL!!!
LOTR has the most bare bones charcter creator, AC1 gives you more options - you cant even change your hight! to top it off Vanguard has 3x the races found in LOTR! From lvl's 1- 25 your chr in LOTR looks the exact same armor wise.
No anti alaising on this one Also up close you can see his hair strands in his head hair. It doesn't show up on this screenie .
I rest my case. about what, I am just posting a pic cause you wanted to see one. The Models in LotRO are much more realistic then Vanguard models imho. The Vanguard are just mass produced Models that use a modeling tool set to make you feel like you have some control over how they look. The bottomline is , every model in Vanguard has the exact same rule and animation set .
I said it because OMG that looks blocky! You guys don't think LoTR models look blocky? Whatever...enjoy your game and we'll enjoy ours! How's that? I do not care for the model graphics nor the animation in LoTR, the rest is pretty good and very picturesqe. As for Vanguard I am enjoying it a lot. Can't you tell.
LOTRO is ALL filled with things so beautiful and vivid in color.
It gets gloomier as you get into the 30's
I know, I beta'd it for 6 months. I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO. Infact Patience would be calling me a traitor if she saw me posting here and so would my guild on LOTRO.
One thing that sucks in LOTRO. If you look at most high cliffs you will notice that the textures are stretched. I get the same affect with NwN2 toolset. Nothing really you can do about it other than raise the landscape to shrink it. However, still LOTRO landscape does look nice. But still I think they could have thought of a better why to do Lone-Lands. I think they got a level-entry guy to do that area. Doesn't look much like typical turbine work.
I beta'd as well for 6 months and from beta 1 I got to lvl 25 , playing every day. Beta 2 I got 23 and played Monster Play for a month, open beta to now I am lvl 31. And Unless you rolled every single race and class to 50 in 3 months time, you are 100% full of shit.
WHAT, you don't make any sense at all. You are saying if I played one guy I wouldn't have made it to 50, but if I played multiple guys then I could? WTF are you talking about????
BTW I played one guy named Daemer as a elven Hunter and made it to lvl 40 before Halloween, including a hobbit Burglar named Knave to lvl 20 before beta 2 even started. That is two months of gameplay there alone If you dont' think that is possible then I dont' think you played beta AT ALL. I was in the Extra Crispy guild and original in the Pink Alpha Faeries.
If you are telling me it took you 3 months to get to lvl 25 then you suck at these games. The majority of the plaers were between lvl 30-50 before beta 2 started.
No anti alaising on this one Also up close you can see his hair strands in his head hair. It doesn't show up on this screenie .
I rest my case. about what, I am just posting a pic cause you wanted to see one. The Models in LotRO are much more realistic then Vanguard models imho. The Vanguard are just mass produced Models that use a modeling tool set to make you feel like you have some control over how they look. The bottomline is , every model in Vanguard has the exact same rule and animation set .
I said it because OMG that looks blocky! You guys don't think LoTR models look blocky? Whatever...enjoy your game and we'll enjoy ours! How's that? I do not care for the model graphics nor the animation in LoTR, the rest is pretty good and very picturesqe. As for Vanguard I am enjoying it a lot. Can't you tell. The models in LotRO are far from blocky, maybe you should go revisit DAoC then look at LotRO again . It is like me saying that "don't you think the Vanguard models run/walk and even look like they have a corn cob in their buttox"
LOTRO is ALL filled with things so beautiful and vivid in color.
It gets gloomier as you get into the 30's
I know, I beta'd it for 6 months. I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO. Infact Patience would be calling me a traitor if she saw me posting here and so would my guild on LOTRO.
One thing that sucks in LOTRO. If you look at most high cliffs you will notice that the textures are stretched. I get the same affect with NwN2 toolset. Nothing really you can do about it other than raise the landscape to shrink it. However, still LOTRO landscape does look nice. But still I think they could have thought of a better why to do Lone-Lands. I think they got a level-entry guy to do that area. Doesn't look much like typical turbine work.
I beta'd as well for 6 months and from beta 1 I got to lvl 25 , playing every day. Beta 2 I got 23 and played Monster Play for a month, open beta to now I am lvl 31. And Unless you rolled every single race and class to 50 in 3 months time, you are 100% full of shit.
WHAT, you don't make any sense at all. You are saying if I played one guy I wouldn't have made it to 50, but if I played multiple guys then I could? WTF are you talking about????
BTW I played one guy named Daemer as a elven Hunter and made it to lvl 40 before Halloween, including a hobbit Burglar named Knave to lvl 20 before beta 2 even started. That is two months of gameplay there alone If you dont' think that is possible then I dont' think you played beta AT ALL. I was in the Extra Crispy guild and original in the Pink Alpha Faeries.
If you are telling me it took you 3 months to get to lvl 25 then you suck at these games. The majority of the plaers were between lvl 30-50 before beta 2 started.
Newsflash, the game is nothing like beta 1
If you played 1 guy then you would of never been through all of the game, I can level 1-15 in Saddle and Combe, Dwarf can level 1-15 in Ered Luin as the elves and hobbits can level in there areas, that is 60 total levels just in the 1-15 . So some how you magically did all 4 races with your one characterin all the races starting content because according to you and I quote "I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO"
this doesn't seem to be the best picture to use to prove whatever point you are trying to make
VSOG graphics quality?
the full size picture provided by your link is pretty bad
either the horse has an extreme case of the jitters or the game has a serious jaggies problem
is it safe to assume the issue isn't with your graphics card?
Nope...do you know why jpg's are used on the internet as the primary format? Because jpg's are easier to manage due to the fact that they are so heavily compressed. Vanguard saves the images as jpg's. I dunno how to get it to save them as tif's. Then you'd see them as they are. The only thing is I doubt you'd see the kind of quality I do unless you have a monitor capable of handling extreme res's - like HD. Plus they'd be huge! We're talking 10's of megs here.
If anyone here knows how to save an iamge in any other format right from game I'm listening. Tell me how to do it and I'll gladly start using it.
actually, i would really like to see some high res shots if that is possible
1920x1200
graphics whore
would be very forgiving of bugs and such if the game is pretty
No anti alaising on this one Also up close you can see his hair strands in his head hair. It doesn't show up on this screenie .
I rest my case. about what, I am just posting a pic cause you wanted to see one. The Models in LotRO are much more realistic then Vanguard models imho. The Vanguard are just mass produced Models that use a modeling tool set to make you feel like you have some control over how they look. The bottomline is , every model in Vanguard has the exact same rule and animation set .
I said it because OMG that looks blocky! You guys don't think LoTR models look blocky? Whatever...enjoy your game and we'll enjoy ours! How's that? I do not care for the model graphics nor the animation in LoTR, the rest is pretty good and very picturesqe. As for Vanguard I am enjoying it a lot. Can't you tell. The models in LotRO are far from blocky, maybe you should go revisit DAoC then look at LotRO again . It is like me saying that "don't you think the Vanguard models run/walk and even look like they have a corn cob in their buttox" I know my opnion and I know what I see. So nothing you say is going to change my opinion of the way I preceive the LoTR models and their animation. Forget it. LOL! Look go play whatever game floats your boat - enjoy. ^_^ kk
this doesn't seem to be the best picture to use to prove whatever point you are trying to make
VSOG graphics quality?
the full size picture provided by your link is pretty bad
either the horse has an extreme case of the jitters or the game has a serious jaggies problem
is it safe to assume the issue isn't with your graphics card?
Nope...do you know why jpg's are used on the internet as the primary format? Because jpg's are easier to manage due to the fact that they are so heavily compressed. Vanguard saves the images as jpg's. I dunno how to get it to save them as tif's. Then you'd see them as they are. The only thing is I doubt you'd see the kind of quality I do unless you have a monitor capable of handling extreme res's - like HD. Plus they'd be huge! We're talking 10's of megs here.
If anyone here knows how to save an iamge in any other format right from game I'm listening. Tell me how to do it and I'll gladly start using it.
actually, i would really like to see some high res shots if that is possible
1920x1200
graphics whore
would be very forgiving of bugs and such if the game is pretty
Hmmm...I don't understand? You saying that the ones I posted and said were 1920x1200 are not 1920x1200?
One thing i will say is that Vangaurd has some of THE BEST armor and weapon models I have ever seen. The totaly beat LotRO in that department.( at least what Ive seen )
My lvl 20 Dread knight - slightly lowered Balanced settings - what I play at..
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WOw, talk about someone coming in yo gain some sort of . Hey I have clout. I will jump in and be ref and show all who is right and wrong.
You know what I think. I think We just saw Deathstiny's second login account. Talk about backing himself up. Perfect timing there.
what?I got both games, currently play both - Vanguard is MUCH more appealing graphicaly.
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I know, I beta'd it for 6 months. I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO. Infact Patience would be calling me a traitor if she saw me posting here and so would my guild on LOTRO.
One thing that sucks in LOTRO. If you look at most high cliffs you will notice that the textures are stretched. I get the same affect with NwN2 toolset. Nothing really you can do about it other than raise the landscape to shrink it. However, still LOTRO landscape does look nice. But still I think they could have thought of a better why to do Lone-Lands. I think they got a level-entry guy to do that area. Doesn't look much like typical turbine work.
I beta'd as well for 6 months and from beta 1 I got to lvl 25 , playing every day. Beta 2 I got 23 and played Monster Play for a month, open beta to now I am lvl 31. And Unless you rolled every single race and class to 50 in 3 months time, you are 100% full of shit.Sony Online Entertainment Steals Customers Money
Love this shot! You have a good eye! Vanguard photogs unit!
OMG this one rocks too! The colors are so incredible! Do you have a large version of this one!
Huge Seem in the water, that is just ugly
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Huh? Excuse me? From what I've read, you didn't just make a "comment" about the quality. Youare the one that STARTED the "Challenge" of VG vs LOTRO by saying what you said. I quote:
Well, if I must say. When someone makes a statement like that it is only common sense to ask you to post some proof. But what did you do. You posted Turbine Art concepts and some edited screenshots that Turbine made for advertisment to comapre to a players screenshots. How lame can one get? Then to top that off you start WHINING about it and start calling everyone Vanbios. Well why don't you just go bakc to playing your BORING LOTRO game and stop coming in the VG forums you, YOu, YOu LOTROLL.
I know, I beta'd it for 6 months. I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO. Infact Patience would be calling me a traitor if she saw me posting here and so would my guild on LOTRO.
One thing that sucks in LOTRO. If you look at most high cliffs you will notice that the textures are stretched. I get the same affect with NwN2 toolset. Nothing really you can do about it other than raise the landscape to shrink it. However, still LOTRO landscape does look nice. But still I think they could have thought of a better why to do Lone-Lands. I think they got a level-entry guy to do that area. Doesn't look much like typical turbine work.
I beta'd as well for 6 months and from beta 1 I got to lvl 25 , playing every day. Beta 2 I got 23 and played Monster Play for a month, open beta to now I am lvl 31. And Unless you rolled every single race and class to 50 in 3 months time, you are 100% full of shit. i love how you lotro guys patrol ALL the other game forums just looking for someone bad mouthing lotro. you guys are worst than the vanbois pre release.Too bad you can't get that HIGH in the Mountains in LOTRO to see any of their defects that show up at LONG distance views. Infact you cant even see the landscape of Lone-Lands when you are on top of Weathertop due to the distant rendering. At elast you can render things on the clipplane with VG. All you have to do in VG is lower the clipplane to do the same you get in LOTRO.
I wonder what all crap we would see in LOTRO if they expanded the clipplane. I bet a lot of textured totally distorted I am sure.
Seriously , what is wrong with this model I posted, beside that it looks amazing, and doesn't look like he has to go run and take a poop ....
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LOLOLOL!!!
LOTR has the most bare bones charcter creator, AC1 gives you more options - you cant even change your hight! to top it off Vanguard has 3x the races found in LOTR! From lvl's 1- 25 your chr in LOTR looks the exact same armor wise.
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- 8GB DDR3
- Nforce 790i Ultra
I said it because OMG that looks blocky! You guys don't think LoTR models look blocky? Whatever...enjoy your game and we'll enjoy ours! How's that? I do not care for the model graphics nor the animation in LoTR, the rest is pretty good and very picturesqe. As for Vanguard I am enjoying it a lot. Can't you tell.
it the chunk line that "non instanced or loading zone" where the game has to load the next grid ?
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it the chunk line that "non instanced or loading zone" where the game has to load the next grid ?
No its the spot where you would be waiting 40 sec to load and we are not waiting at all.
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- Nforce 790i Ultra
I know, I beta'd it for 6 months. I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO. Infact Patience would be calling me a traitor if she saw me posting here and so would my guild on LOTRO.
One thing that sucks in LOTRO. If you look at most high cliffs you will notice that the textures are stretched. I get the same affect with NwN2 toolset. Nothing really you can do about it other than raise the landscape to shrink it. However, still LOTRO landscape does look nice. But still I think they could have thought of a better why to do Lone-Lands. I think they got a level-entry guy to do that area. Doesn't look much like typical turbine work.
I beta'd as well for 6 months and from beta 1 I got to lvl 25 , playing every day. Beta 2 I got 23 and played Monster Play for a month, open beta to now I am lvl 31. And Unless you rolled every single race and class to 50 in 3 months time, you are 100% full of shit.WHAT, you don't make any sense at all. You are saying if I played one guy I wouldn't have made it to 50, but if I played multiple guys then I could? WTF are you talking about????
BTW I played one guy named Daemer as a elven Hunter and made it to lvl 40 before Halloween, including a hobbit Burglar named Knave to lvl 20 before beta 2 even started. That is two months of gameplay there alone If you dont' think that is possible then I dont' think you played beta AT ALL. I was in the Extra Crispy guild and original in the Pink Alpha Faeries.
If you are telling me it took you 3 months to get to lvl 25 then you suck at these games. The majority of the plaers were between lvl 30-50 before beta 2 started.
I said it because OMG that looks blocky! You guys don't think LoTR models look blocky? Whatever...enjoy your game and we'll enjoy ours! How's that? I do not care for the model graphics nor the animation in LoTR, the rest is pretty good and very picturesqe. As for Vanguard I am enjoying it a lot. Can't you tell.
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I know, I beta'd it for 6 months. I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO. Infact Patience would be calling me a traitor if she saw me posting here and so would my guild on LOTRO.
One thing that sucks in LOTRO. If you look at most high cliffs you will notice that the textures are stretched. I get the same affect with NwN2 toolset. Nothing really you can do about it other than raise the landscape to shrink it. However, still LOTRO landscape does look nice. But still I think they could have thought of a better why to do Lone-Lands. I think they got a level-entry guy to do that area. Doesn't look much like typical turbine work.
I beta'd as well for 6 months and from beta 1 I got to lvl 25 , playing every day. Beta 2 I got 23 and played Monster Play for a month, open beta to now I am lvl 31. And Unless you rolled every single race and class to 50 in 3 months time, you are 100% full of shit.WHAT, you don't make any sense at all. You are saying if I played one guy I wouldn't have made it to 50, but if I played multiple guys then I could? WTF are you talking about????
BTW I played one guy named Daemer as a elven Hunter and made it to lvl 40 before Halloween, including a hobbit Burglar named Knave to lvl 20 before beta 2 even started. That is two months of gameplay there alone If you dont' think that is possible then I dont' think you played beta AT ALL. I was in the Extra Crispy guild and original in the Pink Alpha Faeries.
If you are telling me it took you 3 months to get to lvl 25 then you suck at these games. The majority of the plaers were between lvl 30-50 before beta 2 started.
Newsflash, the game is nothing like beta 1If you played 1 guy then you would of never been through all of the game, I can level 1-15 in Saddle and Combe, Dwarf can level 1-15 in Ered Luin as the elves and hobbits can level in there areas, that is 60 total levels just in the 1-15 . So some how you magically did all 4 races with your one characterin all the races starting content because according to you and I quote "I've seen every hidden corner and every instance in LOTRO"
Please, you don't have to lie to be my friend.
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Nope...do you know why jpg's are used on the internet as the primary format? Because jpg's are easier to manage due to the fact that they are so heavily compressed. Vanguard saves the images as jpg's. I dunno how to get it to save them as tif's. Then you'd see them as they are. The only thing is I doubt you'd see the kind of quality I do unless you have a monitor capable of handling extreme res's - like HD. Plus they'd be huge! We're talking 10's of megs here.
If anyone here knows how to save an iamge in any other format right from game I'm listening. Tell me how to do it and I'll gladly start using it.
actually, i would really like to see some high res shots if that is possible1920x1200
graphics whore
would be very forgiving of bugs and such if the game is pretty
I said it because OMG that looks blocky! You guys don't think LoTR models look blocky? Whatever...enjoy your game and we'll enjoy ours! How's that? I do not care for the model graphics nor the animation in LoTR, the rest is pretty good and very picturesqe. As for Vanguard I am enjoying it a lot. Can't you tell.
Nope...do you know why jpg's are used on the internet as the primary format? Because jpg's are easier to manage due to the fact that they are so heavily compressed. Vanguard saves the images as jpg's. I dunno how to get it to save them as tif's. Then you'd see them as they are. The only thing is I doubt you'd see the kind of quality I do unless you have a monitor capable of handling extreme res's - like HD. Plus they'd be huge! We're talking 10's of megs here.
If anyone here knows how to save an iamge in any other format right from game I'm listening. Tell me how to do it and I'll gladly start using it.
actually, i would really like to see some high res shots if that is possible1920x1200
graphics whore
would be very forgiving of bugs and such if the game is pretty
Hmmm...I don't understand? You saying that the ones I posted and said were 1920x1200 are not 1920x1200?
One thing i will say is that Vangaurd has some of THE BEST armor and weapon models I have ever seen. The totaly beat LotRO in that department.( at least what Ive seen )
My lvl 20 Dread knight - slightly lowered Balanced settings - what I play at..
Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
Lao-Tze