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The Merger plan

KenzeKenze Member UncommonPosts: 1,217

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The Server Merge Plan for Vanguard.

Hey Everyone,

Here are the details on the server merge. We don’t have a firm date as we are still getting all the back-end details worked out. The intent is to have them done within the next three weeks. We will announce a date as soon as we have it.

Please feel free to comment as I know you will. I will try and clear up questions as they arise. I realize that not everyone will be happy with all of the decisions, but I’m open to suggestions if someone presents a better idea and it’s something that is feasible for us to implement in time.

Servers

* There will be 2 US PVE, 1 EU PVE, and 1 US PVP server.
o Thunderaxe, Woefeather, and Gulgrethor would merge into server A PVE
o Targonor, Hilsbury, and Shidreth would merge into sever B PVE
o Tharridon, Varking, and Frengrot would merge into sever C PVP FFA
o Gelenia and Infineum would merge into server D EU PVE
o For Florendyl we will be soliciting feedback via a poll and discussion as to whether or not the players think it should be merged.
1. We are open to considering the option of leaving it up with the understanding that the population is way under what it needs to be to be healthy but we wouldn’t recommend it.

* All existing servers will go away and everyone will be moved to new servers.
* We will post a poll so you can vote on the new server names.
* PVP players will be able to move to PVP OR PVE servers.
* PVE players will only be able to move to PVE servers.
* PVP rule set will be FFA.

Characters that have not chosen a server will be moved based on popularity of servers.

* US characters moved this way will be on a US server.
* EU players moved will be on an EU server.
* PVP players will be moved to the new PVP server.
* Each character will get one free server move after the merge.

Character Naming

* Characters name priority is based on
o First created, if also played within the last 30 days
o Last Played
* Those characters that have name collisions will be marked, and upon next login will have to choose a new name before that character can log in.

Housing

* The price for the player’s plot is refunded to the player in coin.
* The resources used to generate the house are refunded to the player via the housing resource escrow.
* The current upkeep balance will be refunded to the character
* Fixtures and items in the house will be placed in the escrow.

Boats

* Boats will be marked as needing to be named.

VGPlayers issues

* We are still working out the specifics on this.

Corpses left in the world

* All corpses will go away.
* Any items left on corpses will go to your escrow account.
* Exp on the corpse will be returned to you.

Mail

* Any pending mail will be returned to sender.

Friends list

* We are still working out the specifics on this.

Guild names

* We are still working out the specifics on this.

Market items

* Items in the market will be returned via mail.

One to Two weeks prior to the consolidation, players will be able to type a slash command (MOVESERVER) that will select what server they want that character to reside on.

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Comments

  • TniceTnice Member Posts: 563

    13 into 4 servers.  They are in worst shape than I guessed.

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    Game over.

  • KenzeKenze Member UncommonPosts: 1,217

    So
    2 PVE
    1 NA PVP
    1 EU PVP
    and possible Florendyl

    5 servers sounds about right, I hope everything goes off without any hitches and I look forward to this.

    Watch your thoughts; they become words.
    Watch your words; they become actions.
    Watch your actions; they become habits.
    Watch your habits; they become character.
    Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
    —Lao-Tze

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Hmm they left out flamehammer, my server or am i just reading this wrong.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,073
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Hmm they left out flamehammer, my server or am i just reading this wrong.
    Flamehammer is being merged into EQ 2.  Truth!!!



    I was surprised to see Varking merged into FFA PVP server.... that might not sit well with the player base...but then again, my friends tell me its been pretty vacant of people, so it certainly will liven things up a for them.


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  • smg77smg77 Member Posts: 672
    This should put an end to the population debate. Going from 13 servers to 4...lol.
  • ChessackChessack Member Posts: 978
    Originally posted by Tnice


    13 into 4 servers.  They are in worst shape than I guessed.




    Yes I expected a 2-to-1 merger... this is more than a 3-to-1 merger (leaving off the special case of the RP server). That is a massive trim-down.



    This tells me that not only do they have a really low population base, but they also don't expect it to go up any time soon (or else they would not merge this drastically).



    C
  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by smg77

    This should put an end to the population debate. Going from 13 servers to 4...lol.

    The real population debate debacle ended a month ago. And at that time, and before, the population on servers was defendable good.

    Those population defenders moved on since then, obviously not you.

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
    "You have the right not to be killed"

  • TniceTnice Member Posts: 563
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Hmm they left out flamehammer, my server or am i just reading this wrong.



    They forgot about Flamehammer, then put it with PvP, then put it in again.  On the SOE podcast the VG community Manager says she plays LoTR.  Guess she needs to roll a character in VG to know the server list.

    How can things get any worst?

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Tnice

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Hmm they left out flamehammer, my server or am i just reading this wrong.



    They forgot about Flamehammer, then put it with PvP, then put it in again.  On the SOE podcast the VG community Manager says she plays LoTR.  Guess she needs to roll a character in VG to know the server list.

    How can things get any worst?

    People not having a free time to spend as wanted?

    Why wouldn't they know the server list. Typos and similar is not only done by these poeple. C'mon.

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
    "You have the right not to be killed"

  • TniceTnice Member Posts: 563
    Originally posted by Orphes

    Originally posted by Tnice

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Hmm they left out flamehammer, my server or am i just reading this wrong.



    They forgot about Flamehammer, then put it with PvP, then put it in again.  On the SOE podcast the VG community Manager says she plays LoTR.  Guess she needs to roll a character in VG to know the server list.

    How can things get any worst?

    People not having a free time to spend as wanted?

    Why wouldn't they know the server list. Typos and similar is not only done by these poeple. C'mon.


    I see it as an indication of the competence of the staff.  They should have merged everyone to 1 server because shortly after this merge the populations will be down again.  There is no way for the population to increase so they should just merge to 1 server and let the new hires have at it.
  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Tnice

    Originally posted by Orphes

    Originally posted by Tnice

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Hmm they left out flamehammer, my server or am i just reading this wrong.



    They forgot about Flamehammer, then put it with PvP, then put it in again.  On the SOE podcast the VG community Manager says she plays LoTR.  Guess she needs to roll a character in VG to know the server list.

    How can things get any worst?

    People not having a free time to spend as wanted?

    Why wouldn't they know the server list. Typos and similar is not only done by these poeple. C'mon.


    I see it as an indication of the competence of the staff. 

    I see that as an indication of you not being any particular good in judging someones competence. (Deleted the flame part, ok.)

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
    "You have the right not to be killed"

  • TniceTnice Member Posts: 563

    A 3:1 merger proves that I was spot on judging VG.  How in the world can you argue the facts at this point?

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Tnice


    A 3:1 merger proves that I was spot on judging VG.  How in the world can you argue the facts at this point?
    Have I been arguing that. When exactly?

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
    "You have the right not to be killed"

  • LidaneLidane Member CommonPosts: 2,300
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Hmm they left out flamehammer, my server or am i just reading this wrong.
    They originally left it off the list, then accidentally put it in with the PvP servers. Now, it's going to merge with Targonor, Hilsbury, and Shidreth.
  • ZooomgZooomg Member Posts: 84
    Not a bad plan at all.



    The big Q is: can they pull all these off without game-breaking bugs for players?  If there are any screw-ups, then expect further unhappiness and another nail in the coffin.
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    OUCH... that was a tighter fit than MxO.

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  • sebbonxsebbonx Member Posts: 318
    WoW, just WoW, a whole entire 4 servers, so much for some of the Vanboi claims this would be the next WoW killer, ROFLMAO. This is an incredible damnation of the whole "vision" thing, and I predicted the ancient, evil, sad "vision" would result in this. "Vision" is just an excuse for a bad game design, one that pits players against each other so the devs don't have to have content. So much for instancing being bad, or no death penalties being the bane of gaming. The only bane I see is EQ1 game design being touted as anything but the crap it was and is.

    If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)

  • Wow? Just wow?

    Oh really? So you have nothing better to do than coming here and slaughtering some "vanguard" people saying that the game could take on wow?

    I just feel that post was unnecessary, but that pretty much goes without saying, and the move seem to be a good one, if they can get servers more populated GREAT. And why coming here complaining ? When its probably a good move, altough the population may be lacking, it will certainly do the population good? And who are you to judge the people playing eqvanguard that the game is bad?

    No im no vanguard fanboi, I actually play wow.
  • ZooomgZooomg Member Posts: 84
    I reckon they had to keep the PvP servers saparate.  If there wasn't PvP, it would be just 2 lol ...
  • kjemperkjemper Member Posts: 181
    I could only imagine what this game would have been like should they have received the unlimited funding they were initially expecting.  Estimated 80+ Mill intially to be the  cost fo this game.  Instead they had to release what they had at about 35 million into production.  Of course it didn't turn out too great.  I too wanted the game to come through and believe had it, it would have been great.  Not a WoW killer, but still a great game.  I don't play WoW or Vangaurd, I play EvE. I think alot of people wanted to believe in the "vision."  Unfortunately those financing it fell through on their promises and Sigil didn't have it in writing.  That is in the past though.  (I do feel better saying it)
  • QBorgQBorg Member Posts: 64
    It's a good move, but they only need 4 servers for the entire population... that puts it in the ranks of Anarchy Online and MxO... aka c games.
  • ZooomgZooomg Member Posts: 84
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Hmm they left out flamehammer, my server or am i just reading this wrong.
    Flamehammer is being merged into EQ 2.  Truth!!!





    Blizzard has just launched a lawsuit blocking that merger claiming Flamehammer should rightfully be transfer to WoW ...
  • M1sf1tM1sf1t Member UncommonPosts: 1,583


    Originally posted by Chessack

    Originally posted by Tnice

    13 into 4 servers. They are in worst shape than I guessed.


    Yes I expected a 2-to-1 merger... this is more than a 3-to-1 merger (leaving off the special case of the RP server). That is a massive trim-down.

    This tells me that not only do they have a really low population base, but they also don't expect it to go up any time soon (or else they would not merge this drastically).

    C



    Last I checked there were only 500 people online at peak hours on Woefeather. That is a freaking tiny amount of people compared to the size of the world in VG. So yeah populations have hit the toilet bowl and they stink something god awful.

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    Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:

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  • M1sf1tM1sf1t Member UncommonPosts: 1,583


    Originally posted by kjemper
    I could only imagine what this game would have been like should they have received the unlimited funding they were initially expecting. Estimated 80+ Mill intially to be the cost fo this game. Instead they had to release what they had at about 35 million into production. Of course it didn't turn out too great. I too wanted the game to come through and believe had it, it would have been great. Not a WoW killer, but still a great game. I don't play WoW or Vangaurd, I play EvE. I think alot of people wanted to believe in the "vision." Unfortunately those financing it fell through on their promises and Sigil didn't have it in writing. That is in the past though. (I do feel better saying it)

    To bad Brad and Sigil had nothing but tech demos to show because had they of meet their deadlines with Microsoft they would of never of created such a turd.

    Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.

    Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:

    GW2 (+LoL and BF3)

  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630

    I am starting to think that the handfull of fans who post in these forums are the entire population of Vanguard. 4 servers for a "third generation" "AAA" title a few months after launch. Lmao. They should have one server and call it Smallville.

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