Is it not in the bible that it states eye for and eye and tooth for a tooth? Iam a christian myself but muslims are very kind people. There are radicals of course but there are radicals everywhere.
Is it not in the bible that it states eye for and eye and tooth for a tooth? Iam a christian myself but muslims are very kind people. There are radicals of course but there are radicals everywhere.
Sorry...I dont see any radicals in America "honor" killing their own daughters because they fell in love with someone other than their pre-determined marriage partner....
this topic falls in the catagory of someone who suggest we must play the same sex in real life. we play mmorpg to get away from real life hence we dont need to follow the rules in real life anymore.
Hows this have anything to do with having a more diverse human selection? I dont care what people play or what they wanna play but id like to play something other then euro/white most of the time or a "Dark skinned white". Then don't play the human race at all? Every game seems to have some tweaked out evil horde to play. Why do so many people have to be the "Pretty" races to play a game. Are you so vain that you literally have to look at yourself 24/7?
Originally posted by Coolguy20 That in a medieval type mmorpg there is a place for different colored people such as black people. I say this because take a look at WoW and war especcially war where it will have no black people at all that there can be black characters that are playable, even LOTRO proved this and the movies had NO dark humans
Can't you make a black human on alliance? I am pretty sure you can make one really dark. Though with all the armor garbage that's like a space suit who could tell.
I think variety is a great thing regardless, more is better.
Is it not in the bible that it states eye for and eye and tooth for a tooth? Iam a christian myself but muslims are very kind people. There are radicals of course but there are radicals everywhere.
Sorry...I dont see any radicals in America "honor" killing their own daughters because they fell in love with someone other than their pre-determined marriage partner.... So its there belief they dont go around killing innocent people unless they are extremely radical. There are white extremist groups that would kill a interracial couple if they saw them at night with no one around.
this topic falls in the catagory of someone who suggest we must play the same sex in real life. we play mmorpg to get away from real life hence we dont need to follow the rules in real life anymore.
Hows this have anything to do with having a more diverse human selection? I dont care what people play or what they wanna play but id like to play something other then euro/white most of the time or a "Dark skinned white". Then don't play the human race at all? Every game seems to have some tweaked out evil horde to play. Why do so many people have to be the "Pretty" races to play a game. Are you so vain that you literally have to look at yourself 24/7?
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
this topic falls in the catagory of someone who suggest we must play the same sex in real life. we play mmorpg to get away from real life hence we dont need to follow the rules in real life anymore.
Hows this have anything to do with having a more diverse human selection? I dont care what people play or what they wanna play but id like to play something other then euro/white most of the time or a "Dark skinned white".Then don't play the human race at all? Every game seems to have some tweaked out evil horde to play. Why do so many people have to be the "Pretty" races to play a game. Are you so vain that you literally have to look at yourself 24/7?
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Sorry but, i would find it odd to play a Zulu MMO and be able to play a white guy... it just wouldnt fit the theme
this topic falls in the catagory of someone who suggest we must play the same sex in real life. we play mmorpg to get away from real life hence we dont need to follow the rules in real life anymore.
Hows this have anything to do with having a more diverse human selection? I dont care what people play or what they wanna play but id like to play something other then euro/white most of the time or a "Dark skinned white".Then don't play the human race at all? Every game seems to have some tweaked out evil horde to play. Why do so many people have to be the "Pretty" races to play a game. Are you so vain that you literally have to look at yourself 24/7?
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Sorry but, i would find it odd to play a Zulu MMO and be able to play a white guy... it just wouldnt fit the theme Why a zulu type MMO? How about WoW where all the human buildings where changed etc and you can only play black type characters same gameplay etc.
this topic falls in the catagory of someone who suggest we must play the same sex in real life. we play mmorpg to get away from real life hence we dont need to follow the rules in real life anymore.
Hows this have anything to do with having a more diverse human selection? I dont care what people play or what they wanna play but id like to play something other then euro/white most of the time or a "Dark skinned white".Then don't play the human race at all? Every game seems to have some tweaked out evil horde to play. Why do so many people have to be the "Pretty" races to play a game. Are you so vain that you literally have to look at yourself 24/7?
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Sorry but, i would find it odd to play a Zulu MMO and be able to play a white guy... it just wouldnt fit the themeWhy a zulu type MMO? How about WoW where all the human buildings where changed etc and you can only play black type characters same gameplay etc.
Because the LORE wasnt create that way, when they made the first warcraft they maybe didnt thought that far ahead, and most of the fantasy games are taken from early europe myth, ppl from europe are pretty light skinned, i bet african lored games have a lot more dark nuances to them, since the LORE and the THEME fits, but most games have dark skinned characters anyway, look at the orcs and dark elves of L2, the night elves are not really white are they? even green ppl is represented in WoW (lol)... Guildwars got loads of diferent skin colors, the only games who dont have much of a choice are those based on already existing lore that are based on celtic/european legends.
I find very funny how whites dont waste time with this kind of coments and run directly to do 2 things:
1.- Make jokes about it, and minimize the treat.
2.- Say: there is no racism nowadays and also state that they should not feel guilty about it, since slavery is a thing of the past.
Now... how hypocrite since this are the same whites not wasting any little oportunity to show off about how America saved the world from Nazis... so let me get this straigh, you can be proud of what you "did" good (actually Rusia won the war, every serius WW2 reading says so), but you should not be ashame fo what you did wrong... LAME.
dude i dont know whatcha thinking. I may be white, but I know for a fact, i have nothing to be guilty about because i never oppressed or enslaved anyone lol. so that number 2 can go out the window as far as i am concerned. but I dont deny there isnt any racism, there is. but blacks are just as racist as whites nowadays. they have no right to be racist anymore than a white person has.
I personally think racism degrades everyones emotional stability, and keeps us from progressing as a civilized society. its a shame it actually happens and continues, but its the unfortunate reality of our world. just got to keep ya head up and keep truckin'
despite VSOH being a crappy game, i did appreciate the "ethnic diversity" of the character pallete that you had to choose from. heck you even had the option of creating what seemed to be a "arab" looking character which is based from Qalia continent. that I will give them major brownie points on.
and as far as russia winning the war, thats debateable. they didnt defeat the nazis single handely. In their country? yeah they did. did america win the war hands down? no, i think everyone had equal take in taking down the nazis. However Americans did make the most direct push for germany itself with Normandy, operation market garden(failed offensive known as hells highway),operation paperclip, operation herring, operation hurricane, and numerous other battles on the ground and in the sky that weakened or otherwise crippled the Nazi machine its own territory.
what russia did very well was protect its own country from nazi invasion and used it climate and geography to its advantage to weaken the nazi regime during its invasion, alot of the rules, and tactics that worked for the nazis in western europe didnt translate well in cold russia climate and geography. so ill give them credit for that.
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ok so your saying that all black people need to start in an arican type place and asians need to start in an asian type place? and this isnt racist to you? why cant someone no matter what color they are start where they want to? whats wrong with that? also whats wrong with a black guy makin a white guy? what if he wants to do that?
my point is this is pointless. anything you say in here can be said to have something to do with bein racist. so lets just forget all of this and move on.
this topic falls in the catagory of someone who suggest we must play the same sex in real life. we play mmorpg to get away from real life hence we dont need to follow the rules in real life anymore.
Hows this have anything to do with having a more diverse human selection? I dont care what people play or what they wanna play but id like to play something other then euro/white most of the time or a "Dark skinned white".Then don't play the human race at all? Every game seems to have some tweaked out evil horde to play. Why do so many people have to be the "Pretty" races to play a game. Are you so vain that you literally have to look at yourself 24/7?
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Sorry but, i would find it odd to play a Zulu MMO and be able to play a white guy... it just wouldnt fit the themeWhy a zulu type MMO? How about WoW where all the human buildings where changed etc and you can only play black type characters same gameplay etc.
Because the LORE wasnt create that way, when they made the first warcraft they maybe didnt thought that far ahead, and most of the fantasy games are taken from early europe myth, ppl from europe are pretty light skinned, i bet african lored games have a lot more dark nuances to them, since the LORE and the THEME fits, but most games have dark skinned characters anyway, look at the orcs and dark elves of L2, the night elves are not really white are they? even green ppl is represented in WoW (lol)... Guildwars got loads of diferent skin colors, the only games who dont have much of a choice are those based on already existing lore that are based on celtic/european legends.
Its a video game in another world, these people go ALL around the earth and back and the only people they ever find are light and dark skinned whites? I dunno man i just dont KNOW. Yes there needs to be a more diverse human selection in MMOS even if they are playable atleast make them there.
so please do u have any example of a game who got only white guys? (there is almost no games with latinos, and when they are, they are violent sickos and i dont complain lol)
Hey coolguy 20 you should drop the subject..is just keep going and going.Maybe you want a little drama eh? Anyway I agree with you,when ever I play a human character in any mmorpg have to be brown and try to customize him more like me..because that's they way i'am and that's the you are,some ppl dont care... fine ,but we care cause that's our style of playing.Anyway just like someone suggest in one of the reply you should try sending a letter to the company of the game you playing and telling how you feel.sometime bring this topic to the forum is not a good idea,we all have different view,we all have human behavior ,one day we can beother day we can be and other we can be like .so good luck
Yes WoW, WAR, Archlord,FFXI,Lineage II, SoR, DaOc, PSU,AoC, and like i said before just because you can make a dark human doesnt mean they are anything but white once again look at french and italian people. Some are very dark almost to the color of black.
Hey coolguy 20 you should drop the subject..is just keep going and going.Maybe you want a little drama eh? Anyway I agree with you,when ever I play a human character in any mmorpg have to be brown and try to customize him more like me..because that's they way i'am and that's the you are,some ppl dont care... fine ,but we care cause that's our style of playing.Anyway just like someone suggest in one of the reply you should try sending a letter to the company of the game you playing and telling how you feel.sometime bring this topic to the forum is not a good idea,we all have different view,we all have human behavior ,one day we can beother day we can be and other we can be like .so good luck
Yes WoW, WAR, Archlord,FFXI,Lineage II, SoR, DaOc, PSU,AoC, and like i said before just because you can make a dark human doesnt mean they are anything but white once again look at french and italian people. Some are very dark almost to the color of black.
So you are saying that white/black isnt just a matter of skin? what features would u like to include? diferenciation leads to racism... that's how it starts.... (and the games u mention, some arent out, others u havent checked and i can prove it.... cough L2 cough...)
For one check out the guild wars black males and females THEY acctually LOOK black. Same with guildwars asians.
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
For one check out the guild wars black males and females THEY acctually LOOK black. Same with guildwars asians.
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
Something other then a white looking guy with dark paint slapped on him and called a black guy. Guildwars is my explanation because if you want to know what features i want besides skin color once again look at guildwars, the different hairstyles the physcial features etc. I dont care about the enviorment or the surroundings but they actually make ethnic types look really good and diversed from once another.
For one check out the guild wars black males and females THEY acctually LOOK black. Same with guildwars asians.
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
Something other then a white looking guy with dark paint slapped on him and called a black guy. Guildwars is my explanation because if you want to know what features i want besides skin color once again look at guildwars, the different hairstyles the physcial features etc. I dont care about the enviorment or the surroundings but they actually make ethnic types look really good and diversed from once another.
So, when i ask for a further explanation i get the same one.... i guess that closes the debate... when the OP doesnt know what he wants, who will....
For one check out the guild wars black males and females THEY acctually LOOK black. Same with guildwars asians.
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
Something other then a white looking guy with dark paint slapped on him and called a black guy. Guildwars is my explanation because if you want to know what features i want besides skin color once again look at guildwars, the different hairstyles the physcial features etc. I dont care about the enviorment or the surroundings but they actually make ethnic types look really good and diversed from once another.
So, when i ask for a further explanation i get the same one.... i guess that closes the debate... when the OP doesnt know what he wants, who will....
I just told you what i wanted diversity in mmos like vanguard and guildwars has, what more do you want me to say, i said i would love it if more games had the physcial looks etc like the blacks and asians in guildwars do in other games besides the slap the paint on the white looking guy.
WoW had the same thing as guildwars different looking human ethnic races. It was changed before beta. Like i said what more do you want me to say. Guildwars black people and asians are the closest looking to the real life races.
For one check out the guild wars black males and females THEY acctually LOOK black. Same with guildwars asians.
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
Something other then a white looking guy with dark paint slapped on him and called a black guy. Guildwars is my explanation because if you want to know what features i want besides skin color once again look at guildwars, the different hairstyles the physcial features etc. I dont care about the enviorment or the surroundings but they actually make ethnic types look really good and diversed from once another.
So, when i ask for a further explanation i get the same one.... i guess that closes the debate... when the OP doesnt know what he wants, who will....
I just told you what i wanted diversity in mmos like vanguard and guildwars has, what more do you want me to say, i said i would love it if more games had the physcial looks etc like the blacks and asians in guildwars do in other games besides the slap the paint on the white looking guy.
WoW had the same thing as guildwars different looking human ethnic races. It was changed before beta. Like i said what more do you want me to say. Guildwars black people and asians are the closest looking to the real life races.
What you aren't understanding is that these games aren't based on REAL Life Races. Guild Wars has different ethnic races because their LORE has them. Same thing with Vanguard. Their LORE has different ethnic races.
Games like LOTRO and WAR do not have LORE that has an asian or an african theme. So why would they have characters that look like that. You can't just include them just because. It has to fit into the world the creator made. In these cases LOTRO has to fit into the world that Tolkien created and WAR will need to fit into the world that Games Workshop created. Neither of these worlds have diversity in the human characters. Their human characters are based on Anglo-Saxon Europeans.
Would you get upset if a movie was made all about vikings and their were no african looking people as vikings? No of course not because that would be rediculous. The object is to make the game as close to the LORE and THEME of the world you are basing it on.
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Can't you make a black human on alliance? I am pretty sure you can make one really dark. Though with all the armor garbage that's like a space suit who could tell.
I think variety is a great thing regardless, more is better.
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Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Sorry but, i would find it odd to play a Zulu MMO and be able to play a white guy... it just wouldnt fit the theme
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Sorry but, i would find it odd to play a Zulu MMO and be able to play a white guy... it just wouldnt fit the theme Why a zulu type MMO? How about WoW where all the human buildings where changed etc and you can only play black type characters same gameplay etc.
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Sorry but, i would find it odd to play a Zulu MMO and be able to play a white guy... it just wouldnt fit the themeWhy a zulu type MMO? How about WoW where all the human buildings where changed etc and you can only play black type characters same gameplay etc.
Because the LORE wasnt create that way, when they made the first warcraft they maybe didnt thought that far ahead, and most of the fantasy games are taken from early europe myth, ppl from europe are pretty light skinned, i bet african lored games have a lot more dark nuances to them, since the LORE and the THEME fits, but most games have dark skinned characters anyway, look at the orcs and dark elves of L2, the night elves are not really white are they? even green ppl is represented in WoW (lol)... Guildwars got loads of diferent skin colors, the only games who dont have much of a choice are those based on already existing lore that are based on celtic/european legends.
dude i dont know whatcha thinking. I may be white, but I know for a fact, i have nothing to be guilty about because i never oppressed or enslaved anyone lol. so that number 2 can go out the window as far as i am concerned. but I dont deny there isnt any racism, there is. but blacks are just as racist as whites nowadays. they have no right to be racist anymore than a white person has.
I personally think racism degrades everyones emotional stability, and keeps us from progressing as a civilized society. its a shame it actually happens and continues, but its the unfortunate reality of our world. just got to keep ya head up and keep truckin'
despite VSOH being a crappy game, i did appreciate the "ethnic diversity" of the character pallete that you had to choose from. heck you even had the option of creating what seemed to be a "arab" looking character which is based from Qalia continent. that I will give them major brownie points on.
and as far as russia winning the war, thats debateable. they didnt defeat the nazis single handely. In their country? yeah they did. did america win the war hands down? no, i think everyone had equal take in taking down the nazis. However Americans did make the most direct push for germany itself with Normandy, operation market garden(failed offensive known as hells highway),operation paperclip, operation herring, operation hurricane, and numerous other battles on the ground and in the sky that weakened or otherwise crippled the Nazi machine its own territory.
what russia did very well was protect its own country from nazi invasion and used it climate and geography to its advantage to weaken the nazi regime during its invasion, alot of the rules, and tactics that worked for the nazis in western europe didnt translate well in cold russia climate and geography. so ill give them credit for that.
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ok so your saying that all black people need to start in an arican type place and asians need to start in an asian type place? and this isnt racist to you? why cant someone no matter what color they are start where they want to? whats wrong with that? also whats wrong with a black guy makin a white guy? what if he wants to do that?
my point is this is pointless. anything you say in here can be said to have something to do with bein racist. so lets just forget all of this and move on.
Honestly would you really like it if every MMO only had black humans in a african like setting and the only skin change you can do is a lighter black person?
Sorry but, i would find it odd to play a Zulu MMO and be able to play a white guy... it just wouldnt fit the themeWhy a zulu type MMO? How about WoW where all the human buildings where changed etc and you can only play black type characters same gameplay etc.
Its a video game in another world, these people go ALL around the earth and back and the only people they ever find are light and dark skinned whites? I dunno man i just dont KNOW. Yes there needs to be a more diverse human selection in MMOS even if they are playable atleast make them there.Because the LORE wasnt create that way, when they made the first warcraft they maybe didnt thought that far ahead, and most of the fantasy games are taken from early europe myth, ppl from europe are pretty light skinned, i bet african lored games have a lot more dark nuances to them, since the LORE and the THEME fits, but most games have dark skinned characters anyway, look at the orcs and dark elves of L2, the night elves are not really white are they? even green ppl is represented in WoW (lol)... Guildwars got loads of diferent skin colors, the only games who dont have much of a choice are those based on already existing lore that are based on celtic/european legends.
So you are saying that white/black isnt just a matter of skin? what features would u like to include? diferenciation leads to racism... that's how it starts.... (and the games u mention, some arent out, others u havent checked and i can prove it.... cough L2 cough...)
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
Something other then a white looking guy with dark paint slapped on him and called a black guy. Guildwars is my explanation because if you want to know what features i want besides skin color once again look at guildwars, the different hairstyles the physcial features etc. I dont care about the enviorment or the surroundings but they actually make ethnic types look really good and diversed from once another.This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
Something other then a white looking guy with dark paint slapped on him and called a black guy. Guildwars is my explanation because if you want to know what features i want besides skin color once again look at guildwars, the different hairstyles the physcial features etc. I dont care about the enviorment or the surroundings but they actually make ethnic types look really good and diversed from once another.So, when i ask for a further explanation i get the same one.... i guess that closes the debate... when the OP doesnt know what he wants, who will....
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
Something other then a white looking guy with dark paint slapped on him and called a black guy. Guildwars is my explanation because if you want to know what features i want besides skin color once again look at guildwars, the different hairstyles the physcial features etc. I dont care about the enviorment or the surroundings but they actually make ethnic types look really good and diversed from once another.So, when i ask for a further explanation i get the same one.... i guess that closes the debate... when the OP doesnt know what he wants, who will....
I just told you what i wanted diversity in mmos like vanguard and guildwars has, what more do you want me to say, i said i would love it if more games had the physcial looks etc like the blacks and asians in guildwars do in other games besides the slap the paint on the white looking guy.WoW had the same thing as guildwars different looking human ethnic races. It was changed before beta. Like i said what more do you want me to say. Guildwars black people and asians are the closest looking to the real life races.
This explaination doesnt make the cut for me, sorry but you will have to explain what features beside skin color should black skinned people have to be considered black in your opinion, since u are the original poster....
Something other then a white looking guy with dark paint slapped on him and called a black guy. Guildwars is my explanation because if you want to know what features i want besides skin color once again look at guildwars, the different hairstyles the physcial features etc. I dont care about the enviorment or the surroundings but they actually make ethnic types look really good and diversed from once another.So, when i ask for a further explanation i get the same one.... i guess that closes the debate... when the OP doesnt know what he wants, who will....
I just told you what i wanted diversity in mmos like vanguard and guildwars has, what more do you want me to say, i said i would love it if more games had the physcial looks etc like the blacks and asians in guildwars do in other games besides the slap the paint on the white looking guy.WoW had the same thing as guildwars different looking human ethnic races. It was changed before beta. Like i said what more do you want me to say. Guildwars black people and asians are the closest looking to the real life races.
What you aren't understanding is that these games aren't based on REAL Life Races. Guild Wars has different ethnic races because their LORE has them. Same thing with Vanguard. Their LORE has different ethnic races.
Games like LOTRO and WAR do not have LORE that has an asian or an african theme. So why would they have characters that look like that. You can't just include them just because. It has to fit into the world the creator made. In these cases LOTRO has to fit into the world that Tolkien created and WAR will need to fit into the world that Games Workshop created. Neither of these worlds have diversity in the human characters. Their human characters are based on Anglo-Saxon Europeans.
Would you get upset if a movie was made all about vikings and their were no african looking people as vikings? No of course not because that would be rediculous. The object is to make the game as close to the LORE and THEME of the world you are basing it on.
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