god this is funny....i mean your talking about the fantasy genre that was pretty much created by Tolkien himself...Middle Earth was created WAYYYYY before ANY of the other RPGs were even thought of...as for WAR the MMO...from what i have seen the graphics, gameplay, even the PvP is nothing like WoW at all....it looks more enjoyable.
and yet you've got 61 hrs of WoW on your Xfire banner and who knows how many more? [sarcasm] wow, that's a great reason to flame! [end sarcasm]
The middle earth lore came before D&D, the middle earth RPG came after.
and tolkien didn't start the fantasy genre, he just started the kind that everyone is familiar with, or if you'd rather the one that everyone recognizes as fantasy..... Just to name a few fantasy authors: Jules Verne and H.P. Lovecraft... their fantasy came a good 50 - 75 years before tolkien became popular (I believe I read somewhere that he started on his first "Rings" novel somewhere in the mid 30's, but his books didn't become popular until the late 50's early 60's ... could be off by a few years as I wasn't around).... Anyways,just wanted to point out that everything has roots that are a lot more far reaching then people tend to want to think about...
And yes I believe chess was created as a teaching tools for tactics in warfare, though from what I've heard it get's it roots from china not arabia (but we're talking over a 1000 years back here (maybe a couple 1000 years) so again I could be wrong.. lol... I'm pretty sure I wasn't around then either..
I wonder if it will get annoying getting killed by someone over and over again simply because they have a better weapon and more time on their hands than you.
I wonder if it will get annoying getting killed by someone over and over again simply because they have a better weapon and more time on their hands than you.
hmm...i wonder if Carpe Diem and Black Moon Chronicles: Winds of War will be resurrected?
Originally posted by turnipz I wonder if it will get annoying getting killed by someone over and over again simply because they have a better weapon and more time on their hands than you.
Mythic is not Blizzard...WAR is not WOW. The goals for WAR are to create a PvP centric game where everyone has a chance to fight and a almost equal chance at winning depending on their skill. Mythic has state many times that they do not believe in 1/2/3 shot kills unless that person running around with 10% health. You won't be seeing any raid centric weapons making pvp fights in WAR lopsided as you do in the PVE centric WOW. I believe Mythic just has a wee bit more prior experience in the whole PVP/RVR area then most developers around and so I trust them.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Define skill, what would someone do different than someone else to make them more or less skilled. Would they spend more time looking at the math? Or perhaps get more lucky than the other guy? Explain it to me.
I wonder if it will get annoying getting killed by someone over and over again simply because they have a better weapon and more time on their hands than you.
Well that depends, do I explode when I die?
If you want skill, go play an FPS.
If you want strategy, go play an RTS.
If you want to feel better about your life, go play an MMO.
Warhammer Graphics and WoW Graphics = Similar, but who cares?!?
Fact of the matter is we all know Warhammer is kickass in a lot of aspects. I'm not exactly "for" kids and arrogant jerks who claim to know "what a GOOD MMO" really is gearing up to play and "dominate" this game but hell, it helps spread the joy that puts a smile on my face every time I hear a WAAAGH!
Besides, Thrall's a pussy, and Illiden ain't got $h*7 on ARCHAON
Warhammer is way more PVP oriented than Wow so the two games can't be compared to one another. Its going to be interesting to see if a heavily PVP oriented game will be able to have as large a fan base as a game more geared for PVE. Right now like it or not more people like PVE. But PVP may become more popular in the future if games like Warhammer are hits.
I understand why OP starts this topic. The 2 new screenshots reinforces the fact that WAR doesnt even look like WoW. Only to see how many actual did bother with seeing the shots.
Mythic has a great IP: Warhammer and owns a PvP-battle system, the RvR; so they are copying themselves, DaoC, and making a good Warhammer game at the same time. Not a WoW clone, WoW cloned Warhammer in every way they were able to.
About the Vikings: they were conquered by the Moors as norsemen were the inhabitants of 'Spain' by the times. They are our ancestors, but the fact is that they were under the Moors, and by the way, Spain didnt exist as a country, it was Hispania, a completely different entity, that they mismanaged strongly in the battlefield. 'Viking' is a profession, not an ethnic.
Actually, with the right resolution and in game settings, world of warcraft doesn't look cartoony either. But then again, thats just playing around with the camera and capturing the right picture.
im confused by your post. are you saying warhammer looks like wow or doesnt look like it? anyways it does no matter what people say. the graphics, interface, even combat looks like wow. which is pretty sad since the previous rts games were brutal and bloody with awesome noncartoony graphics.
im confused by your post. are you saying warhammer looks like wow or doesnt look like it? anyways it does no matter what people say. the graphics, interface, even combat looks like wow. which is pretty sad since the previous rts games were brutal and bloody with awesome noncartoony graphics.
He's saying that some people claim WAR looks like WoW, and that those people are obviously smoking something funny. He gave the url to an image. You'd have to be nuts to confuse those graphics with WoW.
Tolkien should be SUED for copying WoW!! This is unacceptable and shameful! I mean, WTF, he basically has orcs, elves, and gnomes in his games If it wasn't for WoW, LOTR would never be where it's at today.
You are so right! Tolkien stole ALL of his ideas from Blizzard! Look at the similarities - it's obvious that Lord of the Rings is nothing but a WoW ripoff. The movie is a copy, the game is a copy, and I hear they're even turning the movies into a book! No doubt because Blizzard wrote books about WoW - everybody copies WoW.
Define skill, what would someone do different than someone else to make them more or less skilled. Would they spend more time looking at the math? Or perhaps get more lucky than the other guy? Explain it to me.
Im still waiting for the answer to this question, I might enjoy the pvp in this game if I can grasp what makes a good player.
Even though warhammer came out first, they look similar. War's graphics do look better than wow though. Personally, I don't really like the graphics in WoW or WAR. I still play WoW tho. I have to agree with the other poster who said he liked anime/manga style graphics. Too bad I don't like most of those MMOs.
Originally posted by turnipz equal chance at winning depending on their skill
Define skill, what would someone do different than someone else to make them more or less skilled. Would they spend more time looking at the math? Or perhaps get more lucky than the other guy? Explain it to me.
Im still waiting for the answer to this question, I might enjoy the pvp in this game if I can grasp what makes a good player.
This is very simple.
Knowing your class and class skills and how to use them as effectively as possible in combat be it solo or grouped. Knowing other classes just as well as your own and how to deal with them in relation to your own class in combat be it solo or grouped.
Being able to stay aware of your environment and understanding your role in a group of pvp players. Having a quick mind and reflexes to be able to deal with troublesome situations. Knowing when to fight and when to turn and run in order to regroup.
Need I go on and hold your hand some more?
Having "I WIN" PVE raid gear ala WoW does not amount to skill in PvP it just demonstrates a flawed itemization setup geared to favor PvE raiders at the expense of PVP players.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Tolkien should be SUED for copying WoW!! This is unacceptable and shameful! I mean, WTF, he basically has orcs, elves, and gnomes in his games If it wasn't for WoW, LOTR would never be where it's at today.
You are so right! Tolkien stole ALL of his ideas from Blizzard! Look at the similarities - it's obvious that Lord of the Rings is nothing but a WoW ripoff. The movie is a copy, the game is a copy, and I hear they're even turning the movies into a book! No doubt because Blizzard wrote books about WoW - everybody copies WoW.
uh oh.. I'm not going anywhere near Tolkien or his books anymore... I'm not supporting the undead...
Heck don't stop there Norse Mythology is the worse of them all, couldn't they come up with any think of there own? Their entire legends are just about copied from some of the best fantasy around, the gods creating a world called Middle-earth i mean who do they think their kidding? Sue the damn Barbarians!
Define skill, what would someone do different than someone else to make them more or less skilled. Would they spend more time looking at the math? Or perhaps get more lucky than the other guy? Explain it to me.
Im still waiting for the answer to this question, I might enjoy the pvp in this game if I can grasp what makes a good player.
This is very simple.
Knowing your class and class skills and how to use them as effectively as possible in combat be it solo or grouped. Knowing other classes just as well as your own and how to deal with them in relation to your own class in combat be it solo or grouped.
Being able to stay aware of your environment and understanding your role in a group of pvp players. Having a quick mind and reflexes to be able to deal with troublesome situations. Knowing when to fight and when to turn and run in order to regroup.
Need I go on and hold your hand some more?
Having "I WIN" PVE raid gear ala WoW does not amount to skill in PvP it just demonstrates a flawed itemization setup geared to favor PvE raiders at the expense of PVP players.
So basically after a few weeks of playing a child could do it, I just dont understand why you would base a game thats almost entirely pvp off this, how do people not get pissed at the game...
Also saying it takes quick thinking and reflex is rediculous, it takes slow reflexes and trial and error.
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The middle earth lore came before D&D, the middle earth RPG came after.
and tolkien didn't start the fantasy genre, he just started the kind that everyone is familiar with, or if you'd rather the one that everyone recognizes as fantasy..... Just to name a few fantasy authors: Jules Verne and H.P. Lovecraft... their fantasy came a good 50 - 75 years before tolkien became popular (I believe I read somewhere that he started on his first "Rings" novel somewhere in the mid 30's, but his books didn't become popular until the late 50's early 60's ... could be off by a few years as I wasn't around).... Anyways,just wanted to point out that everything has roots that are a lot more far reaching then people tend to want to think about...
And yes I believe chess was created as a teaching tools for tactics in warfare, though from what I've heard it get's it roots from china not arabia (but we're talking over a 1000 years back here (maybe a couple 1000 years) so again I could be wrong.. lol... I'm pretty sure I wasn't around then either..
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Mythic is not Blizzard...WAR is not WOW. The goals for WAR are to create a PvP centric game where everyone has a chance to fight and a almost equal chance at winning depending on their skill. Mythic has state many times that they do not believe in 1/2/3 shot kills unless that person running around with 10% health. You won't be seeing any raid centric weapons making pvp fights in WAR lopsided as you do in the PVE centric WOW. I believe Mythic just has a wee bit more prior experience in the whole PVP/RVR area then most developers around and so I trust them.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
Define skill, what would someone do different than someone else to make them more or less skilled. Would they spend more time looking at the math? Or perhaps get more lucky than the other guy? Explain it to me.
If you want skill, go play an FPS.
If you want strategy, go play an RTS.
If you want to feel better about your life, go play an MMO.
Warhammer Graphics and WoW Graphics = Similar, but who cares?!?
Fact of the matter is we all know Warhammer is kickass in a lot of aspects. I'm not exactly "for" kids and arrogant jerks who claim to know "what a GOOD MMO" really is gearing up to play and "dominate" this game but hell, it helps spread the joy that puts a smile on my face every time I hear a WAAAGH!
Besides, Thrall's a pussy, and Illiden ain't got $h*7 on ARCHAON
Warhammer is way more PVP oriented than Wow so the two games can't be compared to one another. Its going to be interesting to see if a heavily PVP oriented game will be able to have as large a fan base as a game more geared for PVE. Right now like it or not more people like PVE. But PVP may become more popular in the future if games like Warhammer are hits.
Mythic has a great IP: Warhammer and owns a PvP-battle system, the RvR; so they are copying themselves, DaoC, and making a good Warhammer game at the same time. Not a WoW clone, WoW cloned Warhammer in every way they were able to.
About the Vikings: they were conquered by the Moors as norsemen were the inhabitants of 'Spain' by the times. They are our ancestors, but the fact is that they were under the Moors, and by the way, Spain didnt exist as a country, it was Hispania, a completely different entity, that they mismanaged strongly in the battlefield. 'Viking' is a profession, not an ethnic.
It is a question of fangs.
Actually, with the right resolution and in game settings, world of warcraft doesn't look cartoony either. But then again, thats just playing around with the camera and capturing the right picture.
Tolkien should be SUED for copying WoW!! This is unacceptable and shameful! I mean, WTF, he basically has orcs, elves, and gnomes in his games
If it wasn't for WoW, LOTR would never be where it's at today.
Im still waiting for the answer to this question, I might enjoy the pvp in this game if I can grasp what makes a good player.
This is very simple.
Knowing your class and class skills and how to use them as effectively as possible in combat be it solo or grouped. Knowing other classes just as well as your own and how to deal with them in relation to your own class in combat be it solo or grouped.
Being able to stay aware of your environment and understanding your role in a group of pvp players. Having a quick mind and reflexes to be able to deal with troublesome situations. Knowing when to fight and when to turn and run in order to regroup.
Need I go on and hold your hand some more?
Having "I WIN" PVE raid gear ala WoW does not amount to skill in PvP it just demonstrates a flawed itemization setup geared to favor PvE raiders at the expense of PVP players.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
uh oh.. I'm not going anywhere near Tolkien or his books anymore... I'm not supporting the undead...
So basically after a few weeks of playing a child could do it, I just dont understand why you would base a game thats almost entirely pvp off this, how do people not get pissed at the game...
Also saying it takes quick thinking and reflex is rediculous, it takes slow reflexes and trial and error.
Pong came before WoW
WOW COPIED PONG!!!!