It only bothers me because you are calling me a fanboy. When I am anything but, I hate what they did to SWG, but im not going to blame the entire SOE staff, just the SWG team, as anything else is unrelated. That, and I play quite a few of the SOE games, and have not had an issue, and i have saved more money from the Pass than i care to think about, and still had tons of fun. I will be checking out this game now, where before i wouldn’t, as the PASS is my budget, ill still play planetside, will most likely play The agency, and still play the other games i play... You can’t beat the deal. There are far worse company’s with far worse CS staff,, however your acting like they killed your child.
I understand that you have not had issues with SOE. There are 336 complaints registered with the BBB against SOE in the last 36 months. Those are the people that took the time to file a complaint against SOE with the BBB, and that only covers the last 3 years. walmart.com has less complaints agaisnt them, and walmart is one of the worst companies in the world (topic for another forum).
People who are going to ignore the issues that DO exist, simply because they themselves have been lucky enough not to get hit with them, are going to catch flack when they defend the offending company. If you are happy with SOE, the station pass is a killer deal. But at what cost?
On top of the issues I have mentioned regarding SOE's, there is the who idea of SOE attempting to monopolize the MMO market by creating such a collection games that no independent publisher could compete. Look at how things are now. Sigil sold out, now Flying Labs is on the same path. Who is next? After SOE finishes eating PoTBS... who will they swallow next?
Are we going to be left with a choice between Blizzard or SOE for game publishers? This sort of thing is dangerous to the industry, and harmful for smaller studios trying to produce games.
336 filed, but not found to be valid complaints out of millions of subscribers = DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!1!One
I’m sure they do exist, like any CS serious in existence.......ever.
Yeah, lets go ahead and proclaim that SOE and Blizzard will be the only company’s out there, despite the 1000's of indi developers out there, and projects ETC... Doom I tell ya!
Just because Sigil was doomed by bad management and "The vision" no one wanted to play, doesn’t mean POTBS is going to have the same fate, it could, but nothing makes me think so, and I betaed and called out the demise of Vanguard. I do not smell that here.
The main difference between Sigil and FLS is that Sigil openly said they were releasing early because they ran out of money. That game tanked, and SOE took over and kept the game alive. Without SOE, the game would not be there.
Now, FLS moved the game BACK to make their game better and get a good distribution deal. They've always contended they are in excellent financial shape. Hell, I played Vanguard and didn't think it was all that bad of a game, but SoE didn't screw it up, that was all Sigil.
If this game tanks, even though it would be completly FLS's fault, SOE will be blamed as usual.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
Lol....you really need to go out a bit more..it's not the end of the world you know.
I get out plenty, don't worry about that.
No, it isn't the end of the world. It's just another example of a big company getting bigger, and doing everything it can to squeeze smaller companies out of the market. That isn't exactly what I consider to be good for the industry.
You can throw some more insults out of it makes you feel like a big kid though. lol
It wasn't intended as an insult.......it was to "show" that the topic you , and with you a lot of vets , are SO passionate about yet it's a game.Why the hell would i care if SOE would be one of the biggest companien in mmorpg-market.I am not afraid of microsoft so why should i be of SOE getting the better out of it.I played EQ2, Planetside and SWG....yes SWG from the first monthit was released.
Look at it this way....if POTBS fails you can say it's SOE's fault and you have some extra anti-SOE peops on your side...like some of the vanguard boys.If it doesn't...well you wouldn't know then since you won't by a SOE game.
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth 336 filed, but not found to be valid complaints out of millions of subscribers = DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!1!One I’m sure they do exist, like any CS serious in existence.......ever. Yeah, lets go ahead and proclaim that SOE and Blizzard will be the only company’s out there, despite the 1000's of indi developers out there, and projects ETC... Doom I tell ya! Just because Sigil was doomed by bad management and "The vision" no one wanted to play, doesn’t mean POTBS is going to have the same fate, it could, but nothing makes me think so, and I betaed and called out the demise of Vanguard. I do not smell that here.
336 filed is a sizeable number considering most people are too lazy to go through the trouble. But continue with your goofy behavior, I am finding amusement in your childishness.
I really think you should tone down the mountain dew though... I think you're a tad over caffinated. It's been a while since I have seen someone take something way over the top the way you are... lol ...and you're telling me that I am overreacting... lmao
Why is there all this hating and flaming going around ? They allready pointed out that SOE has nothing to do with the development of the game at all. Sony Online Entertainment
• Billing
• Launcher
• Retail Distribution
• Localization
• Marketing
So please drop the hating, as you can see they have no influence of the game , their just good at handling money.
This is exactly what was said about Sigil & Vanguard when SOE got involved... now look at the situation.
Besides... SOE isn't exactly all that good at much of that.
IMHO You can't blame SOE for Vanguard, M$ are the ones who dropped the ball on that, without SOE coming along Vanguard probably would never have been released.
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth 336 filed, but not found to be valid complaints out of millions of subscribers = DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!1!One I’m sure they do exist, like any CS serious in existence.......ever. Yeah, lets go ahead and proclaim that SOE and Blizzard will be the only company’s out there, despite the 1000's of indi developers out there, and projects ETC... Doom I tell ya! Just because Sigil was doomed by bad management and "The vision" no one wanted to play, doesn’t mean POTBS is going to have the same fate, it could, but nothing makes me think so, and I betaed and called out the demise of Vanguard. I do not smell that here.
336 filed is a sizeable number considering most people are too lazy to go through the trouble. But continue with your goofy behavior, I am finding amusement in your childishness.
I really think you should tone down the mountain dew though... I think you're a tad over caffinated. It's been a while since I have seen someone take something way over the top the way you are... lol ...and you're telling me that I am overreacting... lmao
That would be called mocking. I am mocking your "Over the top" postings.
Look it up.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
It wasn't intended as an insult.......it was to "show" that the topic you , and with you a lot of vets , are SO passionate about yet it's a game.Why the hell would i care if SOE would be one of the biggest companien in mmorpg-market.I am not afraid of microsoft so why should i be of SOE getting the better out of it.I played EQ2, Planetside and SWG....yes SWG from the first monthit was released.
I apologize for the remark about insults then... I suppose I took it the way I did due to some of the idiots posting in this thread. I suppose my feelings on the subject are related to my feelings on corporate politics and behavior in general. I hate to see a large corporation make it difficult for smaller companies in any industry. It's usually only good for the larger company, while the customers are left with less innovation and quality.
Originally posted by flakes
Look at it this way....if POTBS fails you can say it's SOE's fault and you have some extra anti-SOE peops on your side...like some of the vanguard boys.If it doesn't...well you wouldn't know then since you won't by a SOE game.
PoTBS has already failed in my eyes. To play it, I would have to give money to SOE (indirectly as it may be), and I find that unacceptable. Some may disagree, and that's fine. But I would rather stick to my convictions rather than go through life being a hypocrite.
That would be called mocking. I am mocking your "Over the top" postings. Look it up.
I think I'll stick to my assertion that your being childish.
Mocking would be childish, yes.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
It wasn't intended as an insult.......it was to "show" that the topic you , and with you a lot of vets , are SO passionate about yet it's a game.Why the hell would i care if SOE would be one of the biggest companien in mmorpg-market.I am not afraid of microsoft so why should i be of SOE getting the better out of it.I played EQ2, Planetside and SWG....yes SWG from the first monthit was released.
I apologize for the remark about insults then... I suppose I took it the way I did due to some of the idiots posting in this thread. I suppose my feelings on the subject are related to my feelings on corporate politics and behavior in general. I hate to see a large corporation make it difficult for smaller companies in any industry. It's usually only good for the larger company, while the customers are left with less innovation and quality.
Originally posted by flakes
Look at it this way....if POTBS fails you can say it's SOE's fault and you have some extra anti-SOE peops on your side...like some of the vanguard boys.If it doesn't...well you wouldn't know then since you won't by a SOE game.
PoTBS has already failed in my eyes. To play it, I would have to give money to SOE (indirectly as it may be), and I find that unacceptable. Some may disagree, and that's fine. But I would rather stick to my convictions rather than go through life being a hypocrite.
Just so we are clear, beyond all the flames and fingerpointing, the soe haters versus the fanbois, there remains a single FACT.
Sony will ruin Pirates of the Burning Sea as they have ruined everything they have touched. In the mmo garden they represent the weeds, and not in a good way.
I have been following PotBS for a while now, maybe almost a year. I have high hopes for the game and I during the time I have been watching it, its only gotten better.
This news, of partnering with SOE, is good/bad news for me. I started playing MMO's 2+ years ago with WoW. I have only played Vanguard: soh in its beta stage. I'll be honest, I didn't like it and really didn't play more then 20 hours total. So I don't have any bad experiences with SOE (other then not liking one game). Apparently, many others do however. I know that PotBS needs a publisher for me to be able to play it and if the publisher would have been "Joe's Publishing and Stuff" company, this news would be all good.
I'll play PotBS, but like the guy everyone warns you about at a new job, I'm going to form my own opinion but not be blind sided if things go bad.
I am vastly dissapointed about SOE getting involved with Flying Lab's "Pirates of the Burning Sea". There was some cool and interesting things about the game which are now washed out by a company who's to process marketing and billing that was also a perputrator to Wire Fraud.
SOE = Wire Fraud.
Yes, SOE committed Wire Fraud. They knowlingly lied and stole from their existing customer base.; ie Committed Wire Fraud.
The bad thing? SOE did this to customers who had been paying annual subscriptions, ie Their Dedicated Subscribers and Fans.
SOE lies and steals from the consumer base. Do not be fooled, no one wants Pirates of the Burning Sea to fail, just SOE.
The best thing that can happen at this point is by reviewing a case history of CCP's experiance with EVE Online and what it took to get their product where it is today. Let's wish Flying Labs an equal amount of success, without SOE.
p.s SOE committed Wire Fraud from their fans and subscribers.
Just so we are clear, beyond all the flames and fingerpointing, the soe haters versus the fanbois, there remains a single FACT. Sony will ruin Pirates of the Burning Sea as they have ruined everything they have touched. In the mmo garden they represent the weeds, and not in a good way.
That’s not a fact, that’s an opinion, where do you kids go to school these days?.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
SOE are purpetrators of Wire Fraud. I am vastly dissapointed about SOE getting involved with Flying Lab's "Pirates of the Burning Sea". There was some cool and interesting things about the game which are now washed out by a company who's to process marketing and billing that was also a perputrator to Wire Fraud. SOE = Wire Fraud. Yes, SOE committed Wire Fraud. They knowlingly lied and stole from their existing customer base.; ie Committed Wire Fraud. The bad thing? SOE did this to customers who had been paying annual subscriptions, ie Their Dedicated Subscribers and Fans. SOE lies and steals from the consumer base. Do not be fooled, no one wants Pirates of the Burning Sea to fail, just SOE. The best thing that can happen at this point is by reviewing a case history of CCP's experiance with EVE Online and what it took to get their product where it is today. Let's wish Flying Labs an equal amount of success, without SOE. p.s SOE committed Wire Fraud from their fans and subscribers.
hahahahaha!
Please, where is the link to this news article?
PS: If you say it 20 times it becomes true?
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
All of you people moaning about how bad SoE customer service is should read the whole devlog. Guess who's handling that aspect, and it's not SoE.
Flying Lab Software
• Game Development
• Community
• Customer Support
• Server Operations
Sony Online Entertainment
• Billing
• Launcher
• Retail Distribution
• Localization
• Marketing
On a side note, I've used the SoE billing system for years without any issues. I played EQ1 for 5 or so, and I played a few others (EQ2, VG for a month. Infantry, oh how I miss thee).
Just so we are clear, beyond all the flames and fingerpointing, the soe haters versus the fanbois, there remains a single FACT. Sony will ruin Pirates of the Burning Sea as they have ruined everything they have touched. In the mmo garden they represent the weeds, and not in a good way.
That’s not a fact, that’s an opinion, where do you kids go to school these days?.
Well, that does indeed suck. I thought I had finally found a game that would drag me away from eve online.... I did however vow to myself never to subscribe to anything affiliated with SOE and furthermore never to buy another sony product... and to dissuade others from doing so. This game had so much going for it as well.. It's a damn shame.
To those who have grown tired of SOE hate: I believe most of us who do not interact with SOE do it on a moral basis, not one of logic. They make fine products at times, improve some, and f**k others up. My experience with them does stem from SWG, and no, no matter how good, great and wonderful this game may turn out to be, and regardless if SOE becomes the savior of the MMO industry or not, I WILL NOT give them a goddamn dime. End of story.
So much for that. It's not so much that they've had a more well known company publish...its that its SOE and as an ex-SWG player I'm morally obligated not to touch anything they're even remotely involved in with a ten parsec pole.
All of you people moaning about how bad SoE customer service is should read the whole devlog. Guess who's handling that aspect, and it's not SoE.
Flying Lab Software
• Game Development
• Community
• Customer Support
• Server Operations Sony Online Entertainment
• Billing
• Launcher
• Retail Distribution
• Localization
• Marketing
On a side note, I've used the SoE billing system for years without any issues. I played EQ1 for 5 or so, and I played a few others (EQ2, VG for a month. Infantry, oh how I miss thee).
If you followed Vanguard you would notice that this press release reads exactly like the first one for Vanguard. I had no idea this game was in this much trouble. I was wondering why the delayed release, now we know why. This game is done.
Well.. This is how it started with Vanguard. First Sony handled the billing. Now you hear about Sony holding a meeting out in the parking lot with Sigil, firing off most of the Sigil staff. SOE is taking over the MMORPG's for the worst. I fear it is all down hill from here, my friends.
_____________________________ E&B (Wikings of the North) - DAC - EQ 2 - EVE (DANIS)- WOW (Azur Order)- LotRO - And have been waiting for PotBS for 5 years
A game-industry friend just leaked some info to me:
SOE plans to merge PoBS and VG servers as both games contain ships and sailing. Coastal cities like Khal will be able to go into contention if people grind enough faction, and become Faction PVP zones (normally all servers will be PVE). It has been revealed that Pirates are the mystery fourth race coming to Telon. Once things have settled down with the server merge, Sony will roll out a so-called New Game Experience to enhance play.
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I understand that you have not had issues with SOE. There are 336 complaints registered with the BBB against SOE in the last 36 months. Those are the people that took the time to file a complaint against SOE with the BBB, and that only covers the last 3 years. walmart.com has less complaints agaisnt them, and walmart is one of the worst companies in the world (topic for another forum).People who are going to ignore the issues that DO exist, simply because they themselves have been lucky enough not to get hit with them, are going to catch flack when they defend the offending company. If you are happy with SOE, the station pass is a killer deal. But at what cost?
On top of the issues I have mentioned regarding SOE's, there is the who idea of SOE attempting to monopolize the MMO market by creating such a collection games that no independent publisher could compete. Look at how things are now. Sigil sold out, now Flying Labs is on the same path. Who is next? After SOE finishes eating PoTBS... who will they swallow next?
Are we going to be left with a choice between Blizzard or SOE for game publishers? This sort of thing is dangerous to the industry, and harmful for smaller studios trying to produce games.
336 filed, but not found to be valid complaints out of millions of subscribers = DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!1!One
I’m sure they do exist, like any CS serious in existence.......ever.
Yeah, lets go ahead and proclaim that SOE and Blizzard will be the only company’s out there, despite the 1000's of indi developers out there, and projects ETC... Doom I tell ya!
Just because Sigil was doomed by bad management and "The vision" no one wanted to play, doesn’t mean POTBS is going to have the same fate, it could, but nothing makes me think so, and I betaed and called out the demise of Vanguard. I do not smell that here.
The main difference between Sigil and FLS is that Sigil openly said they were releasing early because they ran out of money. That game tanked, and SOE took over and kept the game alive. Without SOE, the game would not be there.
Now, FLS moved the game BACK to make their game better and get a good distribution deal. They've always contended they are in excellent financial shape. Hell, I played Vanguard and didn't think it was all that bad of a game, but SoE didn't screw it up, that was all Sigil.
If this game tanks, even though it would be completly FLS's fault, SOE will be blamed as usual.
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"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
No, it isn't the end of the world. It's just another example of a big company getting bigger, and doing everything it can to squeeze smaller companies out of the market. That isn't exactly what I consider to be good for the industry.
You can throw some more insults out of it makes you feel like a big kid though. lol
It wasn't intended as an insult.......it was to "show" that the topic you , and with you a lot of vets , are SO passionate about yet it's a game.Why the hell would i care if SOE would be one of the biggest companien in mmorpg-market.I am not afraid of microsoft so why should i be of SOE getting the better out of it.I played EQ2, Planetside and SWG....yes SWG from the first monthit was released.Look at it this way....if POTBS fails you can say it's SOE's fault and you have some extra anti-SOE peops on your side...like some of the vanguard boys.If it doesn't...well you wouldn't know then since you won't by a SOE game.
336 filed is a sizeable number considering most people are too lazy to go through the trouble. But continue with your goofy behavior, I am finding amusement in your childishness.
I really think you should tone down the mountain dew though... I think you're a tad over caffinated. It's been a while since I have seen someone take something way over the top the way you are... lol ...and you're telling me that I am overreacting... lmao
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This is exactly what was said about Sigil & Vanguard when SOE got involved... now look at the situation.
Besides... SOE isn't exactly all that good at much of that.
IMHO You can't blame SOE for Vanguard, M$ are the ones who dropped the ball on that, without SOE coming along Vanguard probably would never have been released.
336 filed is a sizeable number considering most people are too lazy to go through the trouble. But continue with your goofy behavior, I am finding amusement in your childishness.
I really think you should tone down the mountain dew though... I think you're a tad over caffinated. It's been a while since I have seen someone take something way over the top the way you are... lol ...and you're telling me that I am overreacting... lmao
That would be called mocking. I am mocking your "Over the top" postings.
Look it up.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
... damm ... and another one bites the dust
I apologize for the remark about insults then... I suppose I took it the way I did due to some of the idiots posting in this thread. I suppose my feelings on the subject are related to my feelings on corporate politics and behavior in general. I hate to see a large corporation make it difficult for smaller companies in any industry. It's usually only good for the larger company, while the customers are left with less innovation and quality.
PoTBS has already failed in my eyes. To play it, I would have to give money to SOE (indirectly as it may be), and I find that unacceptable. Some may disagree, and that's fine. But I would rather stick to my convictions rather than go through life being a hypocrite.
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I think I'll stick to my assertion that your being childish.
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I think I'll stick to my assertion that your being childish.
Mocking would be childish, yes.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
I apologize for the remark about insults then... I suppose I took it the way I did due to some of the idiots posting in this thread. I suppose my feelings on the subject are related to my feelings on corporate politics and behavior in general. I hate to see a large corporation make it difficult for smaller companies in any industry. It's usually only good for the larger company, while the customers are left with less innovation and quality.
PoTBS has already failed in my eyes. To play it, I would have to give money to SOE (indirectly as it may be), and I find that unacceptable. Some may disagree, and that's fine. But I would rather stick to my convictions rather than go through life being a hypocrite.
nvm not even worth a comment
Just so we are clear, beyond all the flames and fingerpointing, the soe haters versus the fanbois, there remains a single FACT.
Sony will ruin Pirates of the Burning Sea as they have ruined everything they have touched. In the mmo garden they represent the weeds, and not in a good way.
I have been following PotBS for a while now, maybe almost a year. I have high hopes for the game and I during the time I have been watching it, its only gotten better.
This news, of partnering with SOE, is good/bad news for me. I started playing MMO's 2+ years ago with WoW. I have only played Vanguard: soh in its beta stage. I'll be honest, I didn't like it and really didn't play more then 20 hours total. So I don't have any bad experiences with SOE (other then not liking one game). Apparently, many others do however. I know that PotBS needs a publisher for me to be able to play it and if the publisher would have been "Joe's Publishing and Stuff" company, this news would be all good.
I'll play PotBS, but like the guy everyone warns you about at a new job, I'm going to form my own opinion but not be blind sided if things go bad.
SOE are purpetrators of Wire Fraud.
I am vastly dissapointed about SOE getting involved with Flying Lab's "Pirates of the Burning Sea". There was some cool and interesting things about the game which are now washed out by a company who's to process marketing and billing that was also a perputrator to Wire Fraud.
SOE = Wire Fraud.
Yes, SOE committed Wire Fraud. They knowlingly lied and stole from their existing customer base.; ie Committed Wire Fraud.
The bad thing? SOE did this to customers who had been paying annual subscriptions, ie Their Dedicated Subscribers and Fans.
SOE lies and steals from the consumer base. Do not be fooled, no one wants Pirates of the Burning Sea to fail, just SOE.
The best thing that can happen at this point is by reviewing a case history of CCP's experiance with EVE Online and what it took to get their product where it is today. Let's wish Flying Labs an equal amount of success, without SOE.
p.s SOE committed Wire Fraud from their fans and subscribers.
That’s not a fact, that’s an opinion, where do you kids go to school these days?.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
hahahahaha!
Please, where is the link to this news article?
PS: If you say it 20 times it becomes true?
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
All of you people moaning about how bad SoE customer service is should read the whole devlog. Guess who's handling that aspect, and it's not SoE.
Flying Lab Software
• Game Development
• Community
• Customer Support
• Server Operations
Sony Online Entertainment
• Billing
• Launcher
• Retail Distribution
• Localization
• Marketing
On a side note, I've used the SoE billing system for years without any issues. I played EQ1 for 5 or so, and I played a few others (EQ2, VG for a month. Infantry, oh how I miss thee).
-Josc
I was going to try this game out.
Ah well.
Boo hoohooo what a buch of cry babys how about you all make a game and market it your self.
That’s not a fact, that’s an opinion, where do you kids go to school these days?.
No it's a fact. SOE ruins stuff.
Well, that does indeed suck. I thought I had finally found a game that would drag me away from eve online.... I did however vow to myself never to subscribe to anything affiliated with SOE and furthermore never to buy another sony product... and to dissuade others from doing so. This game had so much going for it as well.. It's a damn shame.
To those who have grown tired of SOE hate: I believe most of us who do not interact with SOE do it on a moral basis, not one of logic. They make fine products at times, improve some, and f**k others up. My experience with them does stem from SWG, and no, no matter how good, great and wonderful this game may turn out to be, and regardless if SOE becomes the savior of the MMO industry or not, I WILL NOT give them a goddamn dime. End of story.
Damn shame.
So much for that. It's not so much that they've had a more well known company publish...its that its SOE and as an ex-SWG player I'm morally obligated not to touch anything they're even remotely involved in with a ten parsec pole.
If you followed Vanguard you would notice that this press release reads exactly like the first one for Vanguard. I had no idea this game was in this much trouble. I was wondering why the delayed release, now we know why. This game is done.
Well.. This is how it started with Vanguard. First Sony handled the billing. Now you hear about Sony holding a meeting out in the parking lot with Sigil, firing off most of the Sigil staff. SOE is taking over the MMORPG's for the worst. I fear it is all down hill from here, my friends.
Well, I just want to play the game!
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E&B (Wikings of the North) - DAC - EQ 2 - EVE (DANIS)- WOW (Azur Order)- LotRO -
And have been waiting for PotBS for 5 years
A game-industry friend just leaked some info to me:
SOE plans to merge PoBS and VG servers as both games contain ships and sailing. Coastal cities like Khal will be able to go into contention if people grind enough faction, and become Faction PVP zones (normally all servers will be PVE). It has been revealed that Pirates are the mystery fourth race coming to Telon. Once things have settled down with the server merge, Sony will roll out a so-called New Game Experience to enhance play.