There selling the game for 20 and the expansion for 40, so new players = 60 more than what they orignally made from the first coppies. Its natural for games to drop their price when they have expansions because what new player wants to shell out 80- 100 dollars to play a game? just a side note lol
Point taken. Atleast $10 or $20 for the orginal WOW. $40 for the expansion. That's atleast $50 plus a monthly fee of $14.95.
That's for a 8.1 mmo (According to thousands of players on this site as an average reflective score)
Now at www.direct2drive.com, you can get the latest offering of Asheron's Call which includes ALL of their expansions and almost 8 years of content for a mere $19.95. No tax. No driving to the store. And you can get an avg 8.2 mmo and an mmo which so many have made statements like "best mmo ever" and "best game out there" etc etc.
Yes, your average American would vote for GW Bush a third time IF only he could run and ruin again. Don't follow the mere numbers and masses. Look at the content of both games, look at all the "boring" type of reviews WoW has by players and all the "best game ever" type of statements in the Asherons Call reviews. Make an educated decision. Perhaps get a better game and save atleast $30 and a lower month fee of $12.95 with a game like Asherons Call.
...Just make a educated and intelligent decision is all that I ask. It's your money, sure. It's also your vote when you elect a president into office. Just don't mindlessly follow the masses is all that I ask. Is that really asking too much?
the post number do have a significant value to the ratings. Guild Wars: Factions only has 797 total votes with a rating of 8.3. What it means is while only about 600 of those people need to vote a perfect 10 in order to get the 8+ rating while WoW needs over 6,000 votes with a perfect 10 to get 8+ rating. not every one will say "hey im a fan of that game! im going to rate every thing 9 or 10 even the customer service even tho i waited over 3 hours to get a response."
Likewise, fewer people need to vote a perfect 1.0 in order to bring down the rating of Asheron's Call than would be needed to bring down the rating of World of Warcraft. What evidence do you have that the AC voters are less honest on the average than the WoW voters? How many votes does a game need in order to ensure an accurate rating?
Yes, a game with fewer votes has a larger margin of error, but it works both ways. WoW's rating is more accurate than AC's rating, but we don't know by how much, and we don't know whether AC's rating is too high, too low, or spot-on. Why do you assume that, because the rating may be less accurate, that it must be too high and not to low?
the post number do have a significant value to the ratings. Guild Wars: Factions only has 797 total votes with a rating of 8.3. What it means is while only about 600 of those people need to vote a perfect 10 in order to get the 8+ rating while WoW needs over 6,000 votes with a perfect 10 to get 8+ rating. not every one will say "hey im a fan of that game! im going to rate every thing 9 or 10 even the customer service even tho i waited over 3 hours to get a response."
If we were to see how good a game realy is in this world, let the subscription per person speak for its self. but on a more personal rating, a games worth is different for each person. this topic has got to be the most idiotic of all saying "the game i like is better then the most popular game in the world b/c less people vote for it on mmorpg.com but more of those people vote higher scores! WOOT! in your face!"
A MUCH more intelligent post and I'll even give you some respect this time.
However, you are STILL wrong about the WOW needs 6000+ "10" votes to get an 8+ stuff.
The ratings are made using a complex formula that weeds out all really low and all really high scores and makes them void completely. A person who votes a game with all 10s or who slams a game with all 0's is actually doing NOTHING for the overall average score as their formula tries to only average scores that resemble honest scoring and tries to weed out all insane fanboy and rabid "0" scoring of any game.
You are right.. however I think when you mention that for a really good rating of a particulat game, you should look at the subscription per person. With that, I assume that you mean let's look at the average subscription length of the typical player for a game. Tell me if I am wrong, but I think that is what you meant. I don't think you want to do that however if you are trying to defend WoW vs a game like Asheron's Call. I would be willing to bet a LOT that the average subscription length for Asherons Call would blow away the average subscription length for World of Warcraft.
I don't wanna "in your face" so much about AC beating out WoW in this sites ratings. I actually just think it's pretty ironic that such a low player base game these days with much inferior graphics and all is actually beating such a beast like WoW in the ratings dept. I don't believe that Blizzard deserves all the success it has gotten with WoW, but rather has stole the show with short term pizazz, and has gotten quite lucky actually. There are a LOT more deserving games then WoW and Asherons Call isn't the only one. Games like Saga of Ryzom and others have better games, more imagination, and more soul then WoW could ever have. They deserve a bigger piece of the mmo market then WoW has pigged out on. It's actually not all WoW just getting lucky. They made a solid game and deserve success, sure. However they have gotten way too much back for what they have offerered us as games in my opinion. A lot of that I credit to the crowd following and simple minded nature of your average Joe these days.
8.2 overall rating vs 8.1 overall rating. I'm speaking ofcourse about Asherons Call's ratings on this site vs that of World of Warcraft. Now a difference of .1 isn't much you say. But it is actually quite an achievement for the old timer Asherons Call. World of Warcraft is barely 2 and half years old. Asheron's Call is now almost 8 years old. World of Warcraft represents the king of the money in the mmo market today, but is obviously not the king of the highest ratings by mmo players. Perhaps then, that is why World of Warcraft now has a retail pricetag of only $9.99 in several nationwide retail outlets, the latest being the huge chain of Target stores dropping its retail price to try and help move the WoW inventory. The players have spoken. Not in sales, but in ratings. Asherons Call has held very high ratings on almost every website since it's release in the fall of 1999. World of Warcraft is already starting to fall. Asherons Call boosts so many veteran players stating such statements as "Best mmo I've ever played", while so very many Wow players say quite the opposite and that it is very simple and repetitive, and slam it with "boring" remarks. Look at a few of the ratings reviews of both games. Just take a quick look. Look how quickly you'll notice many "best game ever" type of statements for Asherons Call... and how quickly you see a ton of "boring" remarks in the World of Warcraft reviews. These are players like you and I people. Players. And the players have spoken. Mass market appeal is great for the big bucks, but really bad for the real players who want real substance in their online game experience.
I'm not going to put much stock in a ranking system that has LOTRO and EQ2 as the top games /rolleyes
And you speak about this site's rating system as if the gods themselves check the ratings on a daily basis. These games only have a few thousand of votes, out of the hundreds of thousands, or in WoW's case, millions of players who are playing them. I could just as easily come here and say that WoW beat's Asherons Call on Gamespot's user ratings.
I'd say the millions of people still playing WoW speaks more than the few thousand of 'ratings' on a gaming site.
edit: also, I wouldn't doubt if retail stores are having trouble selling copies of WoW. Almost everyone has bought it already.
8.2 overall rating vs 8.1 overall rating. I'm speaking ofcourse about Asherons Call's ratings on this site vs that of World of Warcraft. Now a difference of .1 isn't much you say. But it is actually quite an achievement for the old timer Asherons Call. World of Warcraft is barely 2 and half years old. Asheron's Call is now almost 8 years old. World of Warcraft represents the king of the money in the mmo market today, but is obviously not the king of the highest ratings by mmo players. Perhaps then, that is why World of Warcraft now has a retail pricetag of only $9.99 in several nationwide retail outlets, the latest being the huge chain of Target stores dropping its retail price to try and help move the WoW inventory. The players have spoken. Not in sales, but in ratings. Asherons Call has held very high ratings on almost every website since it's release in the fall of 1999. World of Warcraft is already starting to fall. Asherons Call boosts so many veteran players stating such statements as "Best mmo I've ever played", while so very many Wow players say quite the opposite and that it is very simple and repetitive, and slam it with "boring" remarks. Look at a few of the ratings reviews of both games. Just take a quick look. Look how quickly you'll notice many "best game ever" type of statements for Asherons Call... and how quickly you see a ton of "boring" remarks in the World of Warcraft reviews. These are players like you and I people. Players. And the players have spoken. Mass market appeal is great for the big bucks, but really bad for the real players who want real substance in their online game experience.
Its interesting to look at, yes. AC was indeed the best MMO I have ever played. Its interesting to see that WoW, a later game, is actually worse yet at the same time has more players. Hands down the best MMO I ever played, but its too old to play now and I am hoping AOC can fix that gap.
This is the conundrum that we face today. The number one reason for WoW's sucess is the fact that Blizzard had a previous gaming community to build on (Warcraft) so the game only came out strong. That, combined with the easy game elements made the game a hit.
We've pretty much all went over why WoW fails as a game, so Im not going to go through with it. AC, at least in my opinion ( and apparently in many others) is on many levels superior to WoW. But, Making a post such as this on MMO.com forums is useless. Its futile, you're going to have tons of players post their comments like "millions of people play WoW and only a handful play AC" , "AC is way too hardcore for people" etc. Its futile.
Btw, to those who say that WoW has many more votes, yes thats true, but it has both people completly bashing the game and absolute fanboys, so numbers may or may not even out. Regardless, the ratings system on here is just that, the ratings system, and if Asherons call has a higher rating, than probably more people that play AC like AC. Its really a .1 difference though, and even though its small - it does show you how amazing AC really was and still is.
Regardless, the ratings system on here is just that, the ratings system, and if Asherons call has a higher rating, than probably more people that play AC like AC. Its really a .1 difference though, and even though its small - it does show you how amazing AC really was and still is.
Like I said, WoW has a higher user rating than AC on Gamespot. The world doesn't revolve around MMORPG.com.
edit: Higher user rating on IGN.com. I could keep checking other gaming sites, but I think I've made my point.
8.2 overall rating vs 8.1 overall rating. I'm speaking ofcourse about Asherons Call's ratings on this site vs that of World of Warcraft. Now a difference of .1 isn't much you say. But it is actually quite an achievement for the old timer Asherons Call. World of Warcraft is barely 2 and half years old. Asheron's Call is now almost 8 years old. World of Warcraft represents the king of the money in the mmo market today, but is obviously not the king of the highest ratings by mmo players. Perhaps then, that is why World of Warcraft now has a retail pricetag of only $9.99 in several nationwide retail outlets, the latest being the huge chain of Target stores dropping its retail price to try and help move the WoW inventory. The players have spoken. Not in sales, but in ratings. Asherons Call has held very high ratings on almost every website since it's release in the fall of 1999. World of Warcraft is already starting to fall. Asherons Call boosts so many veteran players stating such statements as "Best mmo I've ever played", while so very many Wow players say quite the opposite and that it is very simple and repetitive, and slam it with "boring" remarks. Look at a few of the ratings reviews of both games. Just take a quick look. Look how quickly you'll notice many "best game ever" type of statements for Asherons Call... and how quickly you see a ton of "boring" remarks in the World of Warcraft reviews. These are players like you and I people. Players. And the players have spoken. Mass market appeal is great for the big bucks, but really bad for the real players who want real substance in their online game experience.
Its interesting to look at, yes. AC was indeed the best MMO I have ever played. Its interesting to see that WoW, a later game, is actually worse yet at the same time has more players. Hands down the best MMO I ever played, but its too old to play now and I am hoping AOC can fix that gap.
This is the conundrum that we face today. The number one reason for WoW's sucess is the fact that Blizzard had a previous gaming community to build on (Warcraft) so the game only came out strong. That, combined with the easy game elements made the game a hit.
We've pretty much all went over why WoW fails as a game, so Im not going to go through with it. AC, at least in my opinion ( and apparently in many others) is on many levels superior to WoW. But, Making a post such as this on MMO.com forums is useless. Its futle, you're going to have tons of players post their comments like "millions of people play WoW and only a handful play AC" , "AC is way too hardcore for people" etc. Its futile.
Btw, to those who say that WoW has many more votes, yes thats true, but it has both people completly bashing the game and absolute fanboys, so numbers may or may not even out. Regardless, the ratings system on here is just that, the ratings system, and if Asherons call has a higher rating, than probably more people that play AC like AC. Its really a .1 difference though, and even though its small - it does show you how amazing AC really was and still is.
Very good points Ghost12...
That's really all I am trying to point out people. Let's not get in some HUGE debate on AC vs WoW. Especially since most of you who will be posting remarks will have never even played Asherons Call for 5 minutes.
Just look at that simple point. Look at how great or populat or whatever you think WOW is. And Asherons Call, a game released way back in 1999 is actually beating it's average rating. Look at what that says for a game like Asherons Call, regardless of what you think about WoW. Stop attacking me and Asherons Call for just a second and give Turbine and Asheron's Call a bow of respect for even the .1 higher rating it has over the much more recent and much higher polished game of World of Warcraft.
Give a little respect where respect is due. I honestly think Asherons Call deserves it. And so does Turbine. Turbine deserves it for keeping it going, for keeping it interesting to its devoted players for so many years against such fierce competition.
So, if every WoW player on this site voted 1 across the board for AC, what would that prove? That AC is worse than Dark and Light? That would then be definitive proof that AC is the worse game ever made, right?
Of course, the WoW haters haven't voted against WoW and driven it's score down.
And it will be news when Blizzard has to give away WoW and TBC not because they have discounted a 2 year old game.
And no, I don't play WoW. I just find the negativity directed at it amusing, it's not that bad of game. It has it strengths and weaknesses, just like every other game out there.
That's great! At least you can find WoW at Target, where millions of people shop and might stop and say, "hey there's that warcraft game that I've heard about... and it's ONLY 10 BUCKS!"
I'm not going to put much stock in a ranking system that has LOTRO and EQ2 as the top games /rolleyes
Why not? Because you personally disagree? What makes your opinion more valid than that of anyone else?
Because if you look at the general consensus from dozens of the top video game sites, in both their professional and user ratings, you won't find LOTRO and EQ2 at the top of the MMORPG list. Those games just aren't good enough to be at the top.
I would be willing to bet a LOT that the average subscription length for Asherons Call would blow away the average subscription length for World of Warcraft.
I dont think you understand the popularity of you game. AC only has 10k Subscribers (could be more or less since its based off of 2006).
I hope you can see how unrealistic that AC could beat WoW with a 1 per person subscriber.
Count up the ratings on all the gamesites in the world and I bet WoW get's a higher average rating than Asheron's Call. Yet it proves nothing. Now what does Asheron's Call have on WoW? An extra .1 average from MMORPG.com? Good for them.
I bet Turbine would trade it's .1 rating for WoW's popularity and subscriptions. You know why? because the .1 rating is POINTLESS. 1,000 people think Asheron's Call is a 8.2 game. That's hardly enough definitve proof to warrant a post like this. Especially since 8 million people think enough of WoW to keep paying for it. That same thing can't be said for AC.
I would be willing to bet a LOT that the average subscription length for Asherons Call would blow away the average subscription length for World of Warcraft.
I dont think you understand the popularity of you game. AC only has 10k Subscribers (could be more or less since its based off of 2006).
I hope you can see how unrealistic that AC could beat WoW with a 1 per person subscriber.
Hes talking about the average amount of time that a subscription stays with AC - compared to WoW. Meaning that the average person stays a certain length in one game compared to the other.
Meaning that AC beats out WoW by a landslide. Fans that are playing have stayed since release - but that isnt totally fair considering WoW came out like 5 years later.
Keep your chin up. I'm sure that out of the 300 or so people that bother to read this post, at least one of 'em may look at some screenshots of AC1. And then it will be all worth it. Enjoy your game of rampant cheating and unattended combat macros.
Oh, and yeah... I actually played the game for 2 months. I would never recommend it to anyone.
I would be willing to bet a LOT that the average subscription length for Asherons Call would blow away the average subscription length for World of Warcraft.
I dont think you understand the popularity of you game. AC only has 10k Subscribers (could be more or less since its based off of 2006).
I hope you can see how unrealistic that AC could beat WoW with a 1 per person subscriber.
Hes talking about the average amount of time that a subscription stays with AC - compared to WoW. Meaning that the average person stays a certain length in one game compared to the other.
Meaning that AC beats out WoW by a landslide. Fans that are playing have stayed since release - but that isnt totally fair considering WoW came out like 5 years later.
Your right, i miss read it. and again your right about how unfair it is to compare it like that.
It still never ceases to amaze me how people will line up to bash someone for saying something bad about a lame game like WOW, yes blizzard "claims" to have over 8 million subscribers, and we all know thats BS, thay have had 8 million+ subscribe at one time or another total , wich includes 14 day free trials ( that counts for almost 3 million of these 8) endless amounts of friends try for free accounts, and tons that used the 30 days and never played again,so when you brag about your "Almighty' game please know the complete facts before you boast" its the best" because its not and never will be .........................................Yeah fan boys and girls flame away , and yes i was once a WOW player but got bored of the Simplicity of it , as for AC , it was a great game in its time but when the player base dwindled to less than 500 on at any 1 time it lost its greatness, wich revolved around its PvP.
Meh, the ratings given out by sites really dont count. The game is in its early stages and really isnt fleshed out until a year later. And alot of the time it is pretty much based on the techinical aspects of the game rather than the fun factor. The fun factor is different for EVERYONE and thats why personal reviews that have ratings on them fall flat.
How can anyone take the ratings on this site seriously? Especially when people go out of their way to make extra accounts to vote down or up games they themselves do not like? It's sad really but it shows that ratings on this site aren't a credible tool to use when judging a game when they can be so easily be manipulated by those with an agenda.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
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There selling the game for 20 and the expansion for 40, so new players = 60 more than what they orignally made from the first coppies. Its natural for games to drop their price when they have expansions because what new player wants to shell out 80- 100 dollars to play a game? just a side note lol
Point taken. Atleast $10 or $20 for the orginal WOW. $40 for the expansion. That's atleast $50 plus a monthly fee of $14.95.That's for a 8.1 mmo (According to thousands of players on this site as an average reflective score)
Now at www.direct2drive.com, you can get the latest offering of Asheron's Call which includes ALL of their expansions and almost 8 years of content for a mere $19.95. No tax. No driving to the store. And you can get an avg 8.2 mmo and an mmo which so many have made statements like "best mmo ever" and "best game out there" etc etc.
Yes, your average American would vote for GW Bush a third time IF only he could run and ruin again. Don't follow the mere numbers and masses. Look at the content of both games, look at all the "boring" type of reviews WoW has by players and all the "best game ever" type of statements in the Asherons Call reviews. Make an educated decision. Perhaps get a better game and save atleast $30 and a lower month fee of $12.95 with a game like Asherons Call.
...Just make a educated and intelligent decision is all that I ask. It's your money, sure. It's also your vote when you elect a president into office. Just don't mindlessly follow the masses is all that I ask. Is that really asking too much?
Hehe.
Perception is Reality.
Hehe.
yeah i thought that was funny too. thats like saying "sales dont count, free rating do!"
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Likewise, fewer people need to vote a perfect 1.0 in order to bring down the rating of Asheron's Call than would be needed to bring down the rating of World of Warcraft. What evidence do you have that the AC voters are less honest on the average than the WoW voters? How many votes does a game need in order to ensure an accurate rating?
Yes, a game with fewer votes has a larger margin of error, but it works both ways. WoW's rating is more accurate than AC's rating, but we don't know by how much, and we don't know whether AC's rating is too high, too low, or spot-on. Why do you assume that, because the rating may be less accurate, that it must be too high and not to low?
However, you are STILL wrong about the WOW needs 6000+ "10" votes to get an 8+ stuff.
The ratings are made using a complex formula that weeds out all really low and all really high scores and makes them void completely. A person who votes a game with all 10s or who slams a game with all 0's is actually doing NOTHING for the overall average score as their formula tries to only average scores that resemble honest scoring and tries to weed out all insane fanboy and rabid "0" scoring of any game.
You are right.. however I think when you mention that for a really good rating of a particulat game, you should look at the subscription per person. With that, I assume that you mean let's look at the average subscription length of the typical player for a game. Tell me if I am wrong, but I think that is what you meant. I don't think you want to do that however if you are trying to defend WoW vs a game like Asheron's Call. I would be willing to bet a LOT that the average subscription length for Asherons Call would blow away the average subscription length for World of Warcraft.
I don't wanna "in your face" so much about AC beating out WoW in this sites ratings. I actually just think it's pretty ironic that such a low player base game these days with much inferior graphics and all is actually beating such a beast like WoW in the ratings dept. I don't believe that Blizzard deserves all the success it has gotten with WoW, but rather has stole the show with short term pizazz, and has gotten quite lucky actually. There are a LOT more deserving games then WoW and Asherons Call isn't the only one. Games like Saga of Ryzom and others have better games, more imagination, and more soul then WoW could ever have. They deserve a bigger piece of the mmo market then WoW has pigged out on. It's actually not all WoW just getting lucky. They made a solid game and deserve success, sure. However they have gotten way too much back for what they have offerered us as games in my opinion. A lot of that I credit to the crowd following and simple minded nature of your average Joe these days.
I'm not going to put much stock in a ranking system that has LOTRO and EQ2 as the top games /rolleyes
And you speak about this site's rating system as if the gods themselves check the ratings on a daily basis. These games only have a few thousand of votes, out of the hundreds of thousands, or in WoW's case, millions of players who are playing them. I could just as easily come here and say that WoW beat's Asherons Call on Gamespot's user ratings.
I'd say the millions of people still playing WoW speaks more than the few thousand of 'ratings' on a gaming site.
edit: also, I wouldn't doubt if retail stores are having trouble selling copies of WoW. Almost everyone has bought it already.
Here's some more worthless ratings for you:
From Gamerankings.com
Asheron's Call - 81.6%, Asheron's Call: Dark Majesty - 78.4%, Asheron's Call: Throne of Destiny - 58.5%
Asheron's Call Average - 72.83%
Ok, now let's see what WoW got, which you tout as being worse
World of Warcraft - 91.8%, World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade - 90.6%
World of Warcraft Average - 91.2%
Well, look there, WoW is rated a lot better.
Its interesting to look at, yes. AC was indeed the best MMO I have ever played. Its interesting to see that WoW, a later game, is actually worse yet at the same time has more players. Hands down the best MMO I ever played, but its too old to play now and I am hoping AOC can fix that gap.
This is the conundrum that we face today. The number one reason for WoW's sucess is the fact that Blizzard had a previous gaming community to build on (Warcraft) so the game only came out strong. That, combined with the easy game elements made the game a hit.
We've pretty much all went over why WoW fails as a game, so Im not going to go through with it. AC, at least in my opinion ( and apparently in many others) is on many levels superior to WoW. But, Making a post such as this on MMO.com forums is useless. Its futile, you're going to have tons of players post their comments like "millions of people play WoW and only a handful play AC" , "AC is way too hardcore for people" etc. Its futile.
Btw, to those who say that WoW has many more votes, yes thats true, but it has both people completly bashing the game and absolute fanboys, so numbers may or may not even out. Regardless, the ratings system on here is just that, the ratings system, and if Asherons call has a higher rating, than probably more people that play AC like AC. Its really a .1 difference though, and even though its small - it does show you how amazing AC really was and still is.
Like I said, WoW has a higher user rating than AC on Gamespot. The world doesn't revolve around MMORPG.com.
edit: Higher user rating on IGN.com. I could keep checking other gaming sites, but I think I've made my point.
This is the conundrum that we face today. The number one reason for WoW's sucess is the fact that Blizzard had a previous gaming community to build on (Warcraft) so the game only came out strong. That, combined with the easy game elements made the game a hit.
We've pretty much all went over why WoW fails as a game, so Im not going to go through with it. AC, at least in my opinion ( and apparently in many others) is on many levels superior to WoW. But, Making a post such as this on MMO.com forums is useless. Its futle, you're going to have tons of players post their comments like "millions of people play WoW and only a handful play AC" , "AC is way too hardcore for people" etc. Its futile.
Btw, to those who say that WoW has many more votes, yes thats true, but it has both people completly bashing the game and absolute fanboys, so numbers may or may not even out. Regardless, the ratings system on here is just that, the ratings system, and if Asherons call has a higher rating, than probably more people that play AC like AC. Its really a .1 difference though, and even though its small - it does show you how amazing AC really was and still is.
Very good points Ghost12...
That's really all I am trying to point out people. Let's not get in some HUGE debate on AC vs WoW. Especially since most of you who will be posting remarks will have never even played Asherons Call for 5 minutes.
Just look at that simple point. Look at how great or populat or whatever you think WOW is. And Asherons Call, a game released way back in 1999 is actually beating it's average rating. Look at what that says for a game like Asherons Call, regardless of what you think about WoW. Stop attacking me and Asherons Call for just a second and give Turbine and Asheron's Call a bow of respect for even the .1 higher rating it has over the much more recent and much higher polished game of World of Warcraft.
Give a little respect where respect is due. I honestly think Asherons Call deserves it. And so does Turbine. Turbine deserves it for keeping it going, for keeping it interesting to its devoted players for so many years against such fierce competition.
{Applaud to Turbine...}
So, if every WoW player on this site voted 1 across the board for AC, what would that prove? That AC is worse than Dark and Light? That would then be definitive proof that AC is the worse game ever made, right?
Of course, the WoW haters haven't voted against WoW and driven it's score down.
And it will be news when Blizzard has to give away WoW and TBC not because they have discounted a 2 year old game.
And no, I don't play WoW. I just find the negativity directed at it amusing, it's not that bad of game. It has it strengths and weaknesses, just like every other game out there.
Why not? Because you personally disagree? What makes your opinion more valid than that of anyone else?
That's great! At least you can find WoW at Target, where millions of people shop and might stop and say, "hey there's that warcraft game that I've heard about... and it's ONLY 10 BUCKS!"
The rating on this site mean sooo much.
Why not? Because you personally disagree? What makes your opinion more valid than that of anyone else?
Because if you look at the general consensus from dozens of the top video game sites, in both their professional and user ratings, you won't find LOTRO and EQ2 at the top of the MMORPG list. Those games just aren't good enough to be at the top.
I hope you can see how unrealistic that AC could beat WoW with a 1 per person subscriber.
Source: http://mmorpgchart.com/
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To Kill or Be Killed?
Count up the ratings on all the gamesites in the world and I bet WoW get's a higher average rating than Asheron's Call. Yet it proves nothing. Now what does Asheron's Call have on WoW? An extra .1 average from MMORPG.com? Good for them.
I bet Turbine would trade it's .1 rating for WoW's popularity and subscriptions. You know why? because the .1 rating is POINTLESS. 1,000 people think Asheron's Call is a 8.2 game. That's hardly enough definitve proof to warrant a post like this. Especially since 8 million people think enough of WoW to keep paying for it. That same thing can't be said for AC.
I hope you can see how unrealistic that AC could beat WoW with a 1 per person subscriber.
Source: http://mmorpgchart.com/
You didnt read his post, Dark Mage.
Hes talking about the average amount of time that a subscription stays with AC - compared to WoW. Meaning that the average person stays a certain length in one game compared to the other.
Meaning that AC beats out WoW by a landslide. Fans that are playing have stayed since release - but that isnt totally fair considering WoW came out like 5 years later.
Radlin,
Keep your chin up. I'm sure that out of the 300 or so people that bother to read this post, at least one of 'em may look at some screenshots of AC1. And then it will be all worth it. Enjoy your game of rampant cheating and unattended combat macros.
Oh, and yeah... I actually played the game for 2 months. I would never recommend it to anyone.
Perception is Reality.
www.gamerankings.com:
World of Warcraft - PC:
Avg Ratio: 92% Based On 71 Media Outlets
Asheron's Call - PC
Avg Ratio: 82% Based On 28 Media Outlets
OMG YOURE RIGHT
I hope you can see how unrealistic that AC could beat WoW with a 1 per person subscriber.
Source: http://mmorpgchart.com/
You didnt read his post, Dark Mage.
Hes talking about the average amount of time that a subscription stays with AC - compared to WoW. Meaning that the average person stays a certain length in one game compared to the other.
Meaning that AC beats out WoW by a landslide. Fans that are playing have stayed since release - but that isnt totally fair considering WoW came out like 5 years later.
Your right, i miss read it. and again your right about how unfair it is to compare it like that.
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To Kill or Be Killed?
It still never ceases to amaze me how people will line up to bash someone for saying something bad about a lame game like WOW, yes blizzard "claims" to have over 8 million subscribers, and we all know thats BS, thay have had 8 million+ subscribe at one time or another total , wich includes 14 day free trials ( that counts for almost 3 million of these 8) endless amounts of friends try for free accounts, and tons that used the 30 days and never played again,so when you brag about your "Almighty' game please know the complete facts before you boast" its the best" because its not and never will be .........................................Yeah fan boys and girls flame away , and yes i was once a WOW player but got bored of the Simplicity of it , as for AC , it was a great game in its time but when the player base dwindled to less than 500 on at any 1 time it lost its greatness, wich revolved around its PvP.
Meh, the ratings given out by sites really dont count. The game is in its early stages and really isnt fleshed out until a year later. And alot of the time it is pretty much based on the techinical aspects of the game rather than the fun factor. The fun factor is different for EVERYONE and thats why personal reviews that have ratings on them fall flat.
On what do you base that statement? Is that what those websites told you to believe?
How can anyone take the ratings on this site seriously? Especially when people go out of their way to make extra accounts to vote down or up games they themselves do not like? It's sad really but it shows that ratings on this site aren't a credible tool to use when judging a game when they can be so easily be manipulated by those with an agenda.
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