In response to just the customization bit, I dunno. What I like about CoX is how you're able to customize your entire character to the point where someone can recognise you when you're standing 2 blocks away. Being able to finely adjust your face is all well and good, but I haven't seen anything to rival CoX's ability to make a truly unique entire character with vastly different features and body shapes. Having half a million hairstyles and eyebrows doesn't really hold that much weight with me. I enjoy being able to choose drastically different legs, bodily proportions, any colour I want anywhere I want, and so on. I'm not trying to bash PW's customization here, it does look heaps better than most eastern mmo's, just that CoX still wins in my book just for the ability to change pretty much whatever you want.
CoX did a perfect job at this true
Actually, if Spore was a true MMO, that would in fact be a fun game in terms of customizations.
City of Heroes lost the crown for best customization? Kind of. Not really.
(Note: I've played CoH for a long time, I've only experienced Perfect world from youtube videos...) Its technologically superior to CoH. CoH's face/body sliders are simplistic compared to Perfect World...
However, what happens when you get in-game... All the newbies have the same 'starter' clothes. You don't get the 'cool' gear until you level up or raise enough money. (And can you change your avatar after creation?)
Another point is that in most MMOs, everyone in a particular level range looks the same, because they all wear the 'most effective' gear. I guess, Perfect world is a bit better in that respect because they have 'social wear'.
Anyway in CoH... - Apart from a few costume items (wings, rocket boots, capes etc.), you can look how you want at any level and without spending much money.
- You can wear what you want, without sacrificing effectiveness. ie. There's no stats vs. looks trade-off.
- It may not be as detailed, but there are a wider range of looks. Robot, ninja, pirate, S&M freak, business-man, rock star... (However, I do agree that Perfect world might well have a wider range of medieval looks.)
City of Heroes lost the crown for best customization?
Kind of. Not really. (Note: I've played CoH for a long time, I've only experienced Perfect world from youtube videos...)
Its technologically superior to CoH.
CoH's face/body sliders are simplistic compared to Perfect World...
However, what happens when you get in-game...
All the newbies have the same 'starter' clothes.
You don't get the 'cool' gear until you level up or raise enough money.
(And can you change your avatar after creation?) Yes you can. At the login screen, there is a modify button next to character select. You can completely change your toon, just as if you were creating it for the first time. You can do this for the first two days for each character. After that, you can visit the stylist/beautician ingame. Another point is that in most MMOs, everyone in a particular level range looks the same, because they all wear the 'most effective' gear.
I guess, Perfect world is a bit better in that respect because they have 'social wear'. There are different types of armor. Also, you can customize with dyes and such.
Anyway in CoH...
- Apart from a few costume items (wings, rocket boots, capes etc.), you can look how you want at any level and without spending much money. - You can wear what you want, without sacrificing effectiveness.
ie. There's no stats vs. looks trade-off. In perfect world, you can equip your armor and social clothes at the same time. Then choose what players see you wearing, therefore you get the looks of the social clothes, but with the benefits of your armor. Comes in handy for PvP, as someone has to think twice before ganking you, if they can't tell what kind of armor you have. - It may not be as detailed, but there are a wider range of looks.
Robot, ninja, pirate, S&M freak, business-man, rock star...
(However, I do agree that Perfect world might well have a wider range of medieval looks.)
Originally posted by M1sf1t It's still going to be a grinder. :P
FYI Perfect World has: - more than 5000 quests - huge open seamless world (with no zones chunking), populated on the ground, in the air and in the water - flying mounts and flying combat - territorial ownerships with territorial battles, player houses/estates & cities, guild estates (on the ground but also on floating islands in the airs) - great graphics with world particle effects (animated water foam on the coasts (http://www.w2i.com.cn/jietu/images/17.jpg), rainbows, birds, night&day system with weather effects,..) - many ground and air mounts and pets - WASD *and* point and click movements systems - etc...
Edit: you can play today on the Malaysian (closed beta but free to register) servers with the English patch (check the above wiki or the Perfect World Forum here).
Three questions...
1.) Do you get more XP from quests or from grouping and/or grinding off mobs ?
2.) What types of quests does it have for example "Kill X number of mobs" type of quests or are they as in depth and as well done as LOTRO and EQ2?
Lineage 2 has a large amount of quests but no one does them (aside form class quests) because you get so much more xp from grouping and grinding.
3.) Was it built around WASD movement ? In other words L2 has WASD and so does LOTRO. Guess which one implements it better? Answer = LOTRO
The rest is irrelevant IMHO.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Wow, some of you have horrible customization, was that intentional or you're just that bad?
I'll upload a pic of mine later.
EDIT: Here's a link to my album, it should be made public. I took some shots on lowest settings, and some on highest, and some without the blur/bloom effect, or whatever it is. My graphics card is really crappy (gforce fx 5600), so don't think these were taken with the latest cards.
As for the game itself, i only got to lvl 5 and spent hours just exploring. I only tried it out because i'm not playing any MMO game right now, it's actually an ok game too, not really the typical asian grindfest either. My biggest complaint was using WASD movement alongside with point and click, i couldn't figure how to disable it, but maybe i missed that option somewhere.
It actually reminds me more of the typical western MMOs like WoW, EQ, etc. Same old kill this, kill that quests so far.
I say give it a shot if you're not playing any MMO right now, it's free to play anyway.
while it is decent face customization city of heroes is overall still about 1000% better at the least.
Not being a CoH fanboy. But when it comes to head customization... it's really not alltogether that important. You RARELY see your characters face when your playing(cameras behind you most of the time). And skin color is really nothing new(the other animal race looks LOL). So your face will look different(most people will go for a more average face or a over the top rediculous face) and generlaly it would look -fairly- similar. From the videos the things that truely set characters apart were the hair and skin color. Otherwise it wasn't that different.
In coh you design your entire your characters outfit to be how you want, i've seen everything from clowns, to zombies, to doctors, to tights wearers, to military uniforms, to demons to robots... to vikings, to rockers, to bikers, to waiters, to school outfits, to ninjas, to "furrys", to anime ripoffs, to bart simpson lookalikes.
In coh when you see someone you can recognize them by their outfit. You'll be seeing your friends repeatedly and you'll be able to recognize them instantly(unless they change their costume 5 times a day and spend millions of inf). Whereas in other mmorpgs you'll see someone and then recognize their name, but you will look at their head and not really notice a difference(that is if they aren't even wearing a helmet!)
CoH is just undisputed atm for customization
-edit and god, the monsters in this game are just stupid looking i could never stand playing it with how many horrible creatures are in it.
You can't really call it the "best customization" just because they let the sliders go out so far that it looks stupid. If coh wanted they could let you stretch their sliders and create the same things but they don't because they want you to have at least partially the shape of a real human being.
Wow, some of you have horrible customization, was that intentional or you're just that bad? I'll upload a pic of mine later.
It was a joke, and there is a lot more to the customization then just sliders, try actually playing the game. Yea the game is bizzarre, but you can't deny the fact that you can change every last little detail about your face and a lot about your body.
Its refereshing and fun as hell!
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
Originally posted by BigMango Originally posted by Elgareth Lol, you call that customization? The curse of sliders: Myriads of options, but in the end, all chars look the same anyway (unless you spend ten minutes in extreme zoom-in to spot the different Lip angles ) You won't spot any difference apart from different Hairstyle/Colour and maybe Eye Makeup in normal playing, so that is absolutely useless Customization. (Besides of that, the Customization Menu is horrible. 3 eye styles only without scrolling? Guild Wars had the best Customization UI I've seen so far. Instantly presents all the Options you have without any scrolling, and when you change for example the Skin Colour, the little Images for Hairstyles all have the altered Skin colour as well)
The standard teenage forum troll, has never tried the game but knows everything about it and just enjoys coming into a forum to bash a game. Guild Wars.. hah, yes I own and have played it (left at lvl17 because I was looking for an MMORPG, not a limited zoning multi player game (it is polished though). It is so much more limited compared to Perfect World.
Chronicles of Spellborn ..way more customization..way..way.way..
while it is decent face customization city of heroes is overall still about 1000% better at the least. -No way! Definately not. Not being a CoH fanboy. -Yes, you are. But when it comes to head customization... it's really not alltogether that important. -In your opinion. You RARELY see your characters face when your playing(cameras behind you most of the time). And skin color is really nothing new(the other animal race looks LOL). So your face will look different(most people will go for a more average face or a over the top rediculous face) and generlaly it would look -fairly- similar. From the videos the things that truely set characters apart were the hair and skin color. Otherwise it wasn't that different. -What's wrong with animals? -CoH doesn't even come close to the face & head customization in Perfect World. Did you forget to hit the Advance section or what? CoH body customization definately wins out though, but not as exaggerated as some make it out to be. In coh you design your entire your characters outfit to be how you want, i've seen everything from clowns, to zombies, to doctors, to tights wearers, to military uniforms, to demons to robots... to vikings, to rockers, to bikers, to waiters, to school outfits, to ninjas, to "furrys", to anime ripoffs, to bart simpson lookalikes. -If Perfect World is gear based, your gear will replace your newbie outfits anyway. it wouldn't make sense for them to design this type of system. In coh when you see someone you can recognize them by their outfit. You'll be seeing your friends repeatedly and you'll be able to recognize them instantly(unless they change their costume 5 times a day and spend millions of inf). Whereas in other mmorpgs you'll see someone and then recognize their name, but you will look at their head and not really notice a difference(that is if they aren't even wearing a helmet!) -Does gear replace costumes in CoH or what's the deal there? I see you commented on people changing costumes 5 times a day? So is everyone stuck with the same look even if you get new gear? I know in Perfect World you can re-customize your character anytime you want, just have to log out and go to character screen. CoH is just undisputed atm for customization -In your opinion.
-edit and god, the monsters in this game are just stupid looking i could never stand playing it with how many horrible creatures are in it. -How long did you play? I explored for hours and was only level 5, and saw a lot of different varieties over the whole map. Some actually looked great, but some of them did look lame. You can't really call it the "best customization" just because they let the sliders go out so far that it looks stupid. If coh wanted they could let you stretch their sliders and create the same things but they don't because they want you to have at least partially the shape of a real human being. -I'm pretty sure the majority of players won't go to extremes like that, i've only seen 2 characters ingame that intentionally did it like that. And why wouldn't CoH have something like that? Not all superheroes resemble humans.Why would they limit you like that?
It's mostly changing small facial features, like the shape of the characters eyes, which is barely noticeable while you're playing the game, and especially if you get a helmet or something.
- huge open seamless world (with no zones chunking), populated on the ground, in the air and in the water
- flying mounts and flying combat
- territorial ownerships with territorial battles, player houses/estates & cities, guild estates (on the ground but also on floating islands in the airs)
- great graphics with world particle effects (animated water foam on the coasts (http://www.w2i.com.cn/jietu/images/17.jpg), rainbows, birds, night&day system with weather effects,..)
Edit: you can play today on the Malaysian (closed beta but free to register) servers with the English patch (check the above wiki or the Perfect World Forum here).
Three questions...
1.) Do you get more XP from quests or from grouping and/or grinding off mobs ?
You get much more exp from quests. You simply do not just grind on monsters in this game.
2.) What types of quests does it have for example "Kill X number of mobs" type of quests or are they as in depth and as well done as LOTRO and EQ2?
I'm not far enough in the game to comment.
Lineage 2 has a large amount of quests but no one does them (aside form class quests) because you get so much more xp from grouping and grinding.
3.) Was it built around WASD movement ? In other words L2 has WASD and so does LOTRO. Guess which one implements it better? Answer = LOTRO
WASD is implemented quite well. They did a very nice job of it. Yes, it seems it was built around WASD movement seeing as with point and click you can get snared up on NPCs. Also you can jump pretty high with the space bar. Very nice controls.
The rest is irrelevant IMHO.
Now, for me... I played CoX on a trial. Personally I didn't like the customization as it mostly revolved around men in tights. Could I make some strong bad ass guy? Not easily. So no... For my PW has much better customization.
while it is decent face customization city of heroes is overall still about 1000% better at the least. -No way! Definately not. Yes it is, theres more to customization then just faces Not being a CoH fanboy. -Yes, you are. And your a PW fanboy But when it comes to head customization... it's really not alltogether that important. -In your opinion. In a sane persons opinion, okay i'm exaggerating here, but the thing is your face has to be purposefully looked at my someone. You RARELY see your characters face when your playing(cameras behind you most of the time). And skin color is really nothing new(the other animal race looks LOL). So your face will look different(most people will go for a more average face or a over the top rediculous face) and generlaly it would look -fairly- similar. From the videos the things that truely set characters apart were the hair and skin color. Otherwise it wasn't that different. -What's wrong with animals? Nothing, i just find their body shape horrible, i hate the beasties in coh too -CoH doesn't even come close to the face & head customization in Perfect World. Did you forget to hit the Advance section or what? CoH body customization definately wins out though, but not as exaggerated as some make it out to be. Didn't i mention that in my post? And yes it is as exaggerated as people make it out to be. I have played coh for over 19 months, and i still have yet to see anyone with the exact same costume as someone else. Ever. I have seen people with similar ones, mainly just the ones who use normal clothes. In coh you design your entire your characters outfit to be how you want, i've seen everything from clowns, to zombies, to doctors, to tights wearers, to military uniforms, to demons to robots... to vikings, to rockers, to bikers, to waiters, to school outfits, to ninjas, to "furrys", to anime ripoffs, to bart simpson lookalikes. -If Perfect World is gear based, your gear will replace your newbie outfits anyway. it wouldn't make sense for them to design this type of system. Did i say perfect world should? I'm merely stating how customizable coh is for your character. not just your head In coh when you see someone you can recognize them by their outfit. You'll be seeing your friends repeatedly and you'll be able to recognize them instantly(unless they change their costume 5 times a day and spend millions of inf). Whereas in other mmorpgs you'll see someone and then recognize their name, but you will look at their head and not really notice a difference(that is if they aren't even wearing a helmet!) -Does gear replace costumes in CoH or what's the deal there? I see you commented on people changing costumes 5 times a day? So is everyone stuck with the same look even if you get new gear? I know in Perfect World you can re-customize your character anytime you want, just have to log out and go to character screen. It's similar in coh, you can go to a tailor and change your costumes, you also get a total of 5 costume slots per character(which are all changeable). There is NO GEAR in coh, you can enhance your powers to simulate gears effects, but you never put on items for visual effects(unless you count special powers but those are rare and don't count for your costume). Your clothes IS you, thats why the customization is better. I'm sorry you can't see it, but it's true, OVERALL you have more freedom with coh's customization, more options more individuality. CoH is just undisputed atm for customization -In your opinion. Fraid not, it's a fact, if i call a orc a orc, yet you say it's just my opinion, it's really a zombie. It doesn't change the fact of the situation it still is a orc -edit and god, the monsters in this game are just stupid looking i could never stand playing it with how many horrible creatures are in it. -How long did you play? I explored for hours and was only level 5, and saw a lot of different varieties over the whole map. Some actually looked great, but some of them did look lame. Not very long at all, i didn't really like the game, but i don't like alot of games. Yes there are alot of options, but ask yourself this, did you run up and look at everyone to see how they did their face, would you notice if weren't purposely looking at them? I only did for the "extremes" i rarely even look a second glance at people with normal faces, because they still looked like any generic fantasy character You can't really call it the "best customization" just because they let the sliders go out so far that it looks stupid. If coh wanted they could let you stretch their sliders and create the same things but they don't because they want you to have at least partially the shape of a real human being. -I'm pretty sure the majority of players won't go to extremes like that, i've only seen 2 characters ingame that intentionally did it like that. And why wouldn't CoH have something like that? Not all superheroes resemble humans.Why would they limit you like that? You can create original faces and there are option for supernatural faces, and you can look like aliens. As well as a beast/robot/lizard, but you still are limited to being humanoid, you are given human characters as your base, not aliens, and they made the sliders to give you options of creating a human face, for your human head. While it is true that all super heroes don't fully resemble humans, they are almost allways either monsters or are generally humanoid in shape, and you can simulate that... some of the things in pw... well those are weird even for aliens =P
also you can check the screenshots i've uploaded here http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v153/Bladin/City Of Heroes/?start=0 note those have been since i first started coh and im not proud of all the screenshots nor am i proud of all the costumes. But they bring memories so i keep them
After 1 minute, I hardly notice any change, only tiny facial details.
They are not even in the same league. But I guess that comparing to the best is just normal. CoV/CoH are simply amazing, this game you show me look like EQ2, nothing really special about it customisation-wise.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
After 1 minute, I hardly notice any change, only tiny facial details.
They are not even in the same league. But I guess that comparing to the best is just normal. CoV/CoH are simply amazing, this game you show me look like EQ2, nothing really special about it customisation-wise.
I don't really like repeating myself, but watch the 2nd video, you can change more then just the facial details, you can even change breast size. the OP only contains one part of the video that focuses only on the face *sigh*
About City of Heroes Vs Perfect World, Keep in mind that making customization for Perfect World is much more difficult. City of Heroes uses a comic book super hero setting, there are no restrictions. Perfect World is restricted to high fantasy.
next, there is actually armor in Perfect World, unlike in CoH where your always stuck in a costume.
After 1 minute, I hardly notice any change, only tiny facial details.
They are not even in the same league. But I guess that comparing to the best is just normal. CoV/CoH are simply amazing, this game you show me look like EQ2, nothing really special about it customisation-wise.
I don't really like repeating myself, but watch the 2nd video, you can change more then just the facial details, you can even change breast size. the OP only contains one part of the video that focuses only on the face *sigh*
About City of Heroes Vs Perfect World, Keep in mind that making customization for Perfect World is much more difficult. City of Heroes uses a comic book super hero setting, there are no restrictions. Perfect World is restricted to high fantasy.
next, there is actually armor in Perfect World, unlike in CoH where your always stuck in a costume.
Well technically there are armors in CoH, and it's rather easy to make a knight look alike. And i wouldn't really consider it being "stuck" in the costumes, since it's more like "you get to be in one". But i agree otherwise, it would def be harder for a fantasy game to have as high of customization.
I just logged into the chinese version, and yes, you can change the size of your head, torso, legs, waist as well. You can create an oversized, steroid using warrior if you like.
A) No, any game which only lets you fiddle with the face and only in minor ways is not going to take any crowns for customization. What's extra-sad is the character-model looks GODAWFUL, a terrible low-poly thing with a chest that appears to at precisely 45 degrees and possibly made of sheet metal. I hate to say this, because it disgusts me, but in this case, the customization really does seem to "polishing a turd". No matter how much you fiddle with the bimbo's face, her body is still going to look idiotic. Not to mention that despite all the options, the dead expression on her face makes her look personality-free and like she has an IQ of about 70. Just the way some gamers like to think of women, I'm sure, but, really... yuck.
I have been playing the game for some time now. Have you played it?
Dude, maybe you should first try the game out and then come back judging with such a limited mind. Compared to all the other mmorpgs, there is nothing wrong with how the Perfect World characters look (and in many other mmorpgs they look much worse).
I.ex: >imho< the Perfect World characters look better than the plastic looking toons in games like EQ2 or Vanguard.
I care why? I was asked to look at a video and told that the game shown had better customization than CoH. In the video, it clearly does not.
I've now seen the second video too. Whilst an improvement, it still does not have superior customization to CoH. There's no sane way to argue otherwise. I am not going to play a poorly-made Chinese WoW clone just to find out exactly HOW right I am in saying it has inferior customization to CoH, because the videos show it pretty clearly.
There's nothing wrong with how the Perfect World characters look? By god, sir, THERE IS! They're horrible horrible sub-anime trash. Fiddling with the body sliders only allows you to make them look like badly-made sub-anime trash. You may not like the "plastic" characters of EQ2, guess what, neither do I, but that doesn't make these anything but TERRIBLE models. AWFUL.
Unless you're a serious, hardcore, anime fanboi, this is clearly not the game for you.
Edit - Just to be very clear, I do NOT like "anime"-style characters in my MMORPGs or CRPGs. I'm not saying you're a "bad person" if you do, but you do have specialized tastes, if so, and it's unreasonable to expect everyone else to share them. This sub-anime style of art is essentially a lazy, cliched form of art, to my mind, and whilst some people love cliches and don't want anything challenging or original (which WoW's models are, if nothing else) or realistic, that doesn't mean I have to. Sub-anime is the visual equivalent of Walker, Texas Ranger (note: not all anime is this - most Japanese anime isn't - it's this trashy "wannabe" anime style that bothers me).
A) No, any game which only lets you fiddle with the face and only in minor ways is not going to take any crowns for customization. What's extra-sad is the character-model looks GODAWFUL, a terrible low-poly thing with a chest that appears to at precisely 45 degrees and possibly made of sheet metal. I hate to say this, because it disgusts me, but in this case, the customization really does seem to "polishing a turd". No matter how much you fiddle with the bimbo's face, her body is still going to look idiotic. Not to mention that despite all the options, the dead expression on her face makes her look personality-free and like she has an IQ of about 70. Just the way some gamers like to think of women, I'm sure, but, really... yuck.
I have been playing the game for some time now. Have you played it?
Dude, maybe you should first try the game out and then come back judging with such a limited mind. Compared to all the other mmorpgs, there is nothing wrong with how the Perfect World characters look (and in many other mmorpgs they look much worse).
I.ex: >imho< the Perfect World characters look better than the plastic looking toons in games like EQ2 or Vanguard.
I care why? I was asked to look at a video and told that the game shown had better customization than CoH. In the video, it clearly does not.
I've now seen the second video too. Whilst an improvement, it still does not have superior customization to CoH. There's no sane way to argue otherwise. I am not going to play a poorly-made Chinese WoW clone just to find out exactly HOW right I am in saying it has inferior customization to CoH, because the videos show it pretty clearly.
There's nothing wrong with how the Perfect World characters look? By god, sir, THERE IS! They're horrible horrible sub-anime trash. Fiddling with the body sliders only allows you to make them look like badly-made sub-anime trash. You may not like the "plastic" characters of EQ2, guess what, neither do I, but that doesn't make these anything but TERRIBLE models. AWFUL.
Unless you're a serious, hardcore, anime fanboi, this is clearly not the game for you.
Edit - Just to be very clear, I do NOT like "anime"-style characters in my MMORPGs or CRPGs. I'm not saying you're a "bad person" if you do, but you do have specialized tastes, if so, and it's unreasonable to expect everyone else to share them. This sub-anime style of art is essentially a lazy, cliched form of art, to my mind, and whilst some people love cliches and don't want anything challenging or original (which WoW's models are, if nothing else) or realistic, that doesn't mean I have to. Sub-anime is the visual equivalent of Walker, Texas Ranger (note: not all anime is this - most Japanese anime isn't - it's this trashy "wannabe" anime style that bothers me).
Ruiny, you did NOT play the game, lets just leave it at that. For your information, NEITHER of the two videos show the entire customization, there are many, many more customization options, So NO, the video does NOT show it "pretty clearly". I just logged in and spend over 15 minutes just adjusting my character, but then I gave up. There are just so many things to change that creating a character takes forever. In fact, you can even upload a photo of yourself, and your character will look like that, similar to TES4: Oblivion. So now its a poorly - made Chinese WoW? Unless you played it, you're making a pointless assumption based on absolutely nothing.
p.s. Perfect World is not anime styled. Games like Ragnarok Online and Tricksters, those are anime/manga styled games.
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CoX did a perfect job at this true
Actually, if Spore was a true MMO, that would in fact be a fun game in terms of customizations.
yeah Spore looks awesome
City of Heroes lost the crown for best customization?
Kind of. Not really.
(Note: I've played CoH for a long time, I've only experienced Perfect world from youtube videos...)
Its technologically superior to CoH.
CoH's face/body sliders are simplistic compared to Perfect World...
However, what happens when you get in-game...
All the newbies have the same 'starter' clothes.
You don't get the 'cool' gear until you level up or raise enough money.
(And can you change your avatar after creation?)
Another point is that in most MMOs, everyone in a particular level range looks the same, because they all wear the 'most effective' gear.
I guess, Perfect world is a bit better in that respect because they have 'social wear'.
Anyway in CoH...
- Apart from a few costume items (wings, rocket boots, capes etc.), you can look how you want at any level and without spending much money.
- You can wear what you want, without sacrificing effectiveness.
ie. There's no stats vs. looks trade-off.
- It may not be as detailed, but there are a wider range of looks.
Robot, ninja, pirate, S&M freak, business-man, rock star...
(However, I do agree that Perfect world might well have a wider range of medieval looks.)
This looks very interesting indeed. So let me see if I have this correct, we can play on the Malaysian server or Vietnamese server on the 18th?
lol, neither... you can play the Malaysian-Chinese version now w/100% English patch, or you can wait for the Malaysian-English to get released.
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
How to play Perfect World in english
Currently messing with - Requiem Online
My PW freak...
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Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
How to play Perfect World in english
Currently messing with - Requiem Online
The curse of sliders. If that's the price to pay, no, sorry, I'd rather stick with "Choose one of 25 Faces"
Three questions...
1.) Do you get more XP from quests or from grouping and/or grinding off mobs ?
2.) What types of quests does it have for example "Kill X number of mobs" type of quests or are they as in depth and as well done as LOTRO and EQ2?
Lineage 2 has a large amount of quests but no one does them (aside form class quests) because you get so much more xp from grouping and grinding.
3.) Was it built around WASD movement ? In other words L2 has WASD and so does LOTRO. Guess which one implements it better? Answer = LOTRO
The rest is irrelevant IMHO.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
Wow, some of you have horrible customization, was that intentional or you're just that bad?
I'll upload a pic of mine later.
EDIT: Here's a link to my album, it should be made public. I took some shots on lowest settings, and some on highest, and some without the blur/bloom effect, or whatever it is. My graphics card is really crappy (gforce fx 5600), so don't think these were taken with the latest cards.
As for the game itself, i only got to lvl 5 and spent hours just exploring. I only tried it out because i'm not playing any MMO game right now, it's actually an ok game too, not really the typical asian grindfest either. My biggest complaint was using WASD movement alongside with point and click, i couldn't figure how to disable it, but maybe i missed that option somewhere.
It actually reminds me more of the typical western MMOs like WoW, EQ, etc. Same old kill this, kill that quests so far.
I say give it a shot if you're not playing any MMO right now, it's free to play anyway.
It's still going to be a grinder. :P
If by western standards, ya pretty much. Nothing like the typical Asian grindfest though.
while it is decent face customization city of heroes is overall still about 1000% better at the least.
Not being a CoH fanboy. But when it comes to head customization... it's really not alltogether that important. You RARELY see your characters face when your playing(cameras behind you most of the time). And skin color is really nothing new(the other animal race looks LOL). So your face will look different(most people will go for a more average face or a over the top rediculous face) and generlaly it would look -fairly- similar. From the videos the things that truely set characters apart were the hair and skin color. Otherwise it wasn't that different.
In coh you design your entire your characters outfit to be how you want, i've seen everything from clowns, to zombies, to doctors, to tights wearers, to military uniforms, to demons to robots... to vikings, to rockers, to bikers, to waiters, to school outfits, to ninjas, to "furrys", to anime ripoffs, to bart simpson lookalikes.
In coh when you see someone you can recognize them by their outfit. You'll be seeing your friends repeatedly and you'll be able to recognize them instantly(unless they change their costume 5 times a day and spend millions of inf). Whereas in other mmorpgs you'll see someone and then recognize their name, but you will look at their head and not really notice a difference(that is if they aren't even wearing a helmet!)
CoH is just undisputed atm for customization
-edit and god, the monsters in this game are just stupid looking i could never stand playing it with how many horrible creatures are in it.
You can't really call it the "best customization" just because they let the sliders go out so far that it looks stupid. If coh wanted they could let you stretch their sliders and create the same things but they don't because they want you to have at least partially the shape of a real human being.
It was a joke, and there is a lot more to the customization then just sliders, try actually playing the game. Yea the game is bizzarre, but you can't deny the fact that you can change every last little detail about your face and a lot about your body.
Its refereshing and fun as hell!
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
How to play Perfect World in english
Currently messing with - Requiem Online
The standard teenage forum troll, has never tried the game but knows everything about it and just enjoys coming into a forum to bash a game.
Guild Wars.. hah, yes I own and have played it (left at lvl17 because I was looking for an MMORPG, not a limited zoning multi player game (it is polished though). It is so much more limited compared to Perfect World.
Chronicles of Spellborn ..way more customization..way..way.way..
It's mostly changing small facial features, like the shape of the characters eyes, which is barely noticeable while you're playing the game, and especially if you get a helmet or something.
CoH remains the king of customization.
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FYI Perfect World has:
- more than 5000 quests
- huge open seamless world (with no zones chunking), populated on the ground, in the air and in the water
- flying mounts and flying combat
- territorial ownerships with territorial battles, player houses/estates & cities, guild estates (on the ground but also on floating islands in the airs)
- great graphics with world particle effects (animated water foam on the coasts (http://www.w2i.com.cn/jietu/images/17.jpg), rainbows, birds, night&day system with weather effects,..)
- many ground and air mounts and pets
- WASD *and* point and click movements systems
- etc...
Screenshots: http://wiki.perfectworld.cc/Screenshots.ashx
Videos: http://wiki.perfectworld.cc/Movies.ashx
Features: http://wiki.perfectworld.cc/Features.ashx
Wiki: http://wiki.perfectworld.cc/
Community site: http://www.perfectworld.cc/
Perfect World International - Release info
Edit: you can play today on the Malaysian (closed beta but free to register) servers with the English patch (check the above wiki or the Perfect World Forum here).
Three questions...
1.) Do you get more XP from quests or from grouping and/or grinding off mobs ?
You get much more exp from quests. You simply do not just grind on monsters in this game.
2.) What types of quests does it have for example "Kill X number of mobs" type of quests or are they as in depth and as well done as LOTRO and EQ2?
I'm not far enough in the game to comment.
Lineage 2 has a large amount of quests but no one does them (aside form class quests) because you get so much more xp from grouping and grinding.
3.) Was it built around WASD movement ? In other words L2 has WASD and so does LOTRO. Guess which one implements it better? Answer = LOTRO
WASD is implemented quite well. They did a very nice job of it. Yes, it seems it was built around WASD movement seeing as with point and click you can get snared up on NPCs. Also you can jump pretty high with the space bar. Very nice controls.
The rest is irrelevant IMHO.
Now, for me... I played CoX on a trial. Personally I didn't like the customization as it mostly revolved around men in tights. Could I make some strong bad ass guy? Not easily. So no... For my PW has much better customization.
here are some random screenshots of coh.
www.armchairempire.com/images/Reviews/pc/city-heroes/city-heroes-014.jpg
http://www.thecentralnexus.com/Group1.jpg
http://www.juegaenred.com/imagenes/foto_city_of_heroes.jpg
http://tokash.photosite.com/~photos/tn/331_1024.ts1083569567576.jpg
http://www.mmorpg-world.net/bg/City%20of%20Heroes/images/CityofHeroes1.jpg
http://elreyart.com/blog/CityofHeroes.jpg
http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/win_city_of_heroes/coh2.jpg
http://www.thewoti.com/common/main_page.jpg
and i'll insert some of my chars here
also you can check the screenshots i've uploaded here http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v153/Bladin/City Of Heroes/?start=0 note those have been since i first started coh and im not proud of all the screenshots nor am i proud of all the costumes. But they bring memories so i keep them
This is ridiculous. Guys admit it... CoH does have better customization.
That being said I just prefer PW customization. Why? Because in CoH I pretty much have to be a guy wearing tights. IMO
From what GL said, I thought this game would have potential. I then saw a SS of a dude riding a tiger riding a giant eagle. No thanks
LOL, not at all.
After 1 minute, I hardly notice any change, only tiny facial details.
They are not even in the same league. But I guess that comparing to the best is just normal. CoV/CoH are simply amazing, this game you show me look like EQ2, nothing really special about it customisation-wise.
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I don't really like repeating myself, but watch the 2nd video, you can change more then just the facial details, you can even change breast size. the OP only contains one part of the video that focuses only on the face *sigh*
About City of Heroes Vs Perfect World, Keep in mind that making customization for Perfect World is much more difficult. City of Heroes uses a comic book super hero setting, there are no restrictions. Perfect World is restricted to high fantasy.
next, there is actually armor in Perfect World, unlike in CoH where your always stuck in a costume.
I don't really like repeating myself, but watch the 2nd video, you can change more then just the facial details, you can even change breast size. the OP only contains one part of the video that focuses only on the face *sigh*
About City of Heroes Vs Perfect World, Keep in mind that making customization for Perfect World is much more difficult. City of Heroes uses a comic book super hero setting, there are no restrictions. Perfect World is restricted to high fantasy.
next, there is actually armor in Perfect World, unlike in CoH where your always stuck in a costume.
Well technically there are armors in CoH, and it's rather easy to make a knight look alike. And i wouldn't really consider it being "stuck" in the costumes, since it's more like "you get to be in one". But i agree otherwise, it would def be harder for a fantasy game to have as high of customization.
I just logged into the chinese version, and yes, you can change the size of your head, torso, legs, waist as well. You can create an oversized, steroid using warrior if you like.
I have been playing the game for some time now. Have you played it?
Dude, maybe you should first try the game out and then come back judging with such a limited mind. Compared to all the other mmorpgs, there is nothing wrong with how the Perfect World characters look (and in many other mmorpgs they look much worse).
I.ex: >imho< the Perfect World characters look better than the plastic looking toons in games like EQ2 or Vanguard.
I care why? I was asked to look at a video and told that the game shown had better customization than CoH. In the video, it clearly does not.
I've now seen the second video too. Whilst an improvement, it still does not have superior customization to CoH. There's no sane way to argue otherwise. I am not going to play a poorly-made Chinese WoW clone just to find out exactly HOW right I am in saying it has inferior customization to CoH, because the videos show it pretty clearly.
There's nothing wrong with how the Perfect World characters look? By god, sir, THERE IS! They're horrible horrible sub-anime trash. Fiddling with the body sliders only allows you to make them look like badly-made sub-anime trash. You may not like the "plastic" characters of EQ2, guess what, neither do I, but that doesn't make these anything but TERRIBLE models. AWFUL.
Unless you're a serious, hardcore, anime fanboi, this is clearly not the game for you.
Edit - Just to be very clear, I do NOT like "anime"-style characters in my MMORPGs or CRPGs. I'm not saying you're a "bad person" if you do, but you do have specialized tastes, if so, and it's unreasonable to expect everyone else to share them. This sub-anime style of art is essentially a lazy, cliched form of art, to my mind, and whilst some people love cliches and don't want anything challenging or original (which WoW's models are, if nothing else) or realistic, that doesn't mean I have to. Sub-anime is the visual equivalent of Walker, Texas Ranger (note: not all anime is this - most Japanese anime isn't - it's this trashy "wannabe" anime style that bothers me).
I have been playing the game for some time now. Have you played it?
Dude, maybe you should first try the game out and then come back judging with such a limited mind. Compared to all the other mmorpgs, there is nothing wrong with how the Perfect World characters look (and in many other mmorpgs they look much worse).
I.ex: >imho< the Perfect World characters look better than the plastic looking toons in games like EQ2 or Vanguard.
I care why? I was asked to look at a video and told that the game shown had better customization than CoH. In the video, it clearly does not.
I've now seen the second video too. Whilst an improvement, it still does not have superior customization to CoH. There's no sane way to argue otherwise. I am not going to play a poorly-made Chinese WoW clone just to find out exactly HOW right I am in saying it has inferior customization to CoH, because the videos show it pretty clearly.
There's nothing wrong with how the Perfect World characters look? By god, sir, THERE IS! They're horrible horrible sub-anime trash. Fiddling with the body sliders only allows you to make them look like badly-made sub-anime trash. You may not like the "plastic" characters of EQ2, guess what, neither do I, but that doesn't make these anything but TERRIBLE models. AWFUL.
Unless you're a serious, hardcore, anime fanboi, this is clearly not the game for you.
Edit - Just to be very clear, I do NOT like "anime"-style characters in my MMORPGs or CRPGs. I'm not saying you're a "bad person" if you do, but you do have specialized tastes, if so, and it's unreasonable to expect everyone else to share them. This sub-anime style of art is essentially a lazy, cliched form of art, to my mind, and whilst some people love cliches and don't want anything challenging or original (which WoW's models are, if nothing else) or realistic, that doesn't mean I have to. Sub-anime is the visual equivalent of Walker, Texas Ranger (note: not all anime is this - most Japanese anime isn't - it's this trashy "wannabe" anime style that bothers me).
Ruiny, you did NOT play the game, lets just leave it at that. For your information, NEITHER of the two videos show the entire customization, there are many, many more customization options, So NO, the video does NOT show it "pretty clearly". I just logged in and spend over 15 minutes just adjusting my character, but then I gave up. There are just so many things to change that creating a character takes forever. In fact, you can even upload a photo of yourself, and your character will look like that, similar to TES4: Oblivion. So now its a poorly - made Chinese WoW? Unless you played it, you're making a pointless assumption based on absolutely nothing.
p.s. Perfect World is not anime styled. Games like Ragnarok Online and Tricksters, those are anime/manga styled games.