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How can any one hate the new WoW xpac?!?!
Melendu
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Watching the trailer its like playing a micheal jackson thriller MMO. normal walking with his girlfriend them bam they get surrounded by undead and the guy turns undead and joins the undead while command them. Those the girl in the WoW trailer dies early 
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there you have it......
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Probably because people are tired of it. Then there are the people that just got done leveling all their characters to 70, worked for gear, now it means nothing again. That kind of stuff can begin to make even the hardcore have back pains. Then there is the competitive arena scene where they just want to play organized arena matches and are getting tired of the side grinds, constantly having to level new classes, then gear them to stay ahead of the curve when a class gets nerfed or a new "team build of the month" comes around.
Don't fret though, the expansion will be large and very populated. I just think a lot of negativity is coming from players that are just getting tired of it. This is not counting the mmorpg community that hates on the game either.
I do not know.
I mean, we had expansions in all games.
Did we had whiners complain that, hey! the new Diablo 2 expansion add a new Act!!! now all my weapons are bad cause in the new act there is better?"
Did we had EVE traders start complaining cause there are new ships around? oh! and the rigs! you could not have rigs before! and you need to salvage stuff for it! We are doomed?
What about EQ? or eq2? ALL games have expansions that ADD content, usually more powerful than what existed previously... all content will imply that you have to play it... you know? it is supposed to be fun and hell if Outlands wasn't much much better designed than Azeroth! If Northrend is to Outlands, what Outlands is to Azeroth, woah! I'm there!
So, no, I do not get this whining cause we get more content and who cares about your epixxx. You will get new stuff.
THe ONLY bad thing is that all those awesome dungeons, like Molten core, Naxxaren, onyxia and now Black temple and so on, get made obsolete. Blizzard has to do something for those, that content should not go to waste!
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Maybe because all the features, save the higher level cap and haircuts, were promised shortly after release (how about in BETA!). Now everyone has to buck up...
Its mostly Blizzard hate and envy, WoW was not the game for them and as a result it cannot possibly be a good game so WoW having millions of subs kind of confuses them and they go off in rants exaggerating things to try and make the game look bad.
Most are just sad MMO-less players blaming WoW for the fall of their game. And hoping and praying a future MMO will kill WoW (which will not happen). And if a future game does smash WoW they will hate on that because it popular and cool do hate on the big boy.
I like it. I am going to get it a week after its released. With the addition of Siege Weapons and destructible buildings, its a step in the right direction.
pathetic attempt at bait
(also...highhorsealert 
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WoW is not a rubbish game... I just think we could expect more from a company like blizz when it comes to the next expansion, I dont think BC was rubbish either but is sure wasnt _all that_. And the similarities are there for sure, but lets hope for the best ofc. What would be the point of hoping for a WoW fail when like you say I dont even play it
WoW xpac = http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=879021&fr=&cache=1 ??
pathetic attempt at bait
(also...highhorsealert 
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But its true
I hate it because I still havent heard the words ''casual friendly (except for leveling itself)'', ''no more reputation grind'', ''you dont need to invest 20 hours a week to actually be able to get loot in raids''.
The day they fix rep grinds and do something about the ''cant live with it, cant live without it'' DKP system is the day I'll come back to WoW.
i don't think i hate the xpac so much as i hate what its going to do to the rest of the game. Now TBC will be put away on the shelf just like Azeroth was. I'm quitting WoW for the time being seeing as there is no point in playing anymore until the xpac comes out
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End of thread!
Seriously most of you should have stopped posting after this guy, he summed it up PERFECTLY!
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
wrath of lich king?
Hmm, you play EVE? You should know the difference then.
New content that "adds" to the player experience w/o totally replacing their previously hard earned effort should be the goal of Blizzard and all MMO's actually.
Sure, EVE added those things, but those skills you trained so hard to get (not) are all still useful. Missile bombardment 5 is just as needed as it was when the game first came out, because the new skills added on required you to have them as pre-requisites.
As for rigs, they added a new dimension to the game, you could trick out your ships even more, and salvaging became a great way for new players to make money, not veterans. (Vets save all their salvage and build rigs, while newer players sell rig parts for big cash.....they bought me my first drake a month ago) Point is, nothing was lost because of it.
EVE added the new Drone Space region..... yet the original regions are all still quite full of players, so the expansion took nothing away from the game...just added more territory to accommodate the recent new players to the game.
WOW raiders work very hard (or at least spend a lot of hours working for it) for their gear (as does anyone else who does tons of PVP arena fighting or faction grinding) and so its much more disheartening to see it all tossed away by a 10 level expansion (another issue EVE does not have).
Yet, as was mentioned, this is the dynamic that many players will accept, and they'll line up to buy the expansion.. (course, only here in the US.... people in China probably get another free ride)
WOW is what it is.... over time, more and more people will begin to tire of the endless level tiers and they'll move on to other games
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hows this for a reason.. im pretty sure the "hero" classes were supposed to be in with launch.. now they release one? and for both sides? what about the dwarf one(dont remember what it was called) but will that be horde too? kinda kills the point of having 2 sides doesnt it, if they are boht the same? and as for content, its been said already, but ill repeat. its not adding, its replacing. more raid dungeons people will never step foot in again. good call by one of the guys up the list, that has multiple 70s. might as well stop playing till the xpac comes out, because everything they do between now and then will be for nothing. I dont know about the people who think TBC lands were a step up from azeroth, but personally, i found the new lands lacking.. 1-60 wasnt a grind to me, but 60-64 sucked the life out of me. i dont see why this next one wil lbe any better. And it seems like this new land should have came out before outlands.. after all, those demon suckers are the ones that made the lich king, arent they? doesnt make any sense that there will be stronger mobs on azeroth that we just never noticed before.. but at least they are putting a snowy place to the north this time
I suppose what im getting at is i expected a whole lot more from blizzard. they've always been known for doing a superb job, but i think they are just getting lazy.. they could have made 2 hero classes easy enough, or found a way to not antiquate everyones epics, or shut down the old raids. with the amount of money they bring in, they should be doing better.
I thank the good forces in the world everyday that I quit. Once again all your work is made completely worthless and come 80 your entire raid progress is reset. WOW is unique in the world of MMOs when it comes to making all your past accomplishment worthless. Expand outwards not upwards. Look at AO, 3 expansions later, classic AO raids are still just as common as Sector 42 raids or Battlestations. Tarasque a mob 6 years old still gets raided EVERYDAY, the loot he drops is still just as coveted as it was 6 years ago. Enjoy chasing your carrot.
Exactly, the more I play other games the more I see why other games copied so much from AO... It was truely a ground breaking game and did things the right way.
To bad Blizzard decided not to copy other aspects or ideas from AO, or maybe people would not be bashing this horrible xp. Seriosly I haven't played this game for a whole year and I hate this xp, I cannot imagine what all the people that grinded since then are thinking right now.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
My main complaint about WoW is that they basically have taken the guise of reality out of their MMO. Now, I do realize that fantasy MMO's aren't real in the sense that there are mythical creatures and lots of magic involved. However, crafting is the foundation of building economy in WoW, or any other MMO for the matter.
Blizzard has decided that crafting should be nerfed. Nerfed? How do you "nerf" crafting? You take away high level crafting from the general public. What? Yes, think about it. High level crafting from levels 300 and up have been taken away from the general public. A crafter can only craft weapons and armors of high levels only for him/herself. A crafter can NOT craft for the general public. Not one high level item may be placed into auction house for purchase. Why? Really, give me the main reason why Blizzard decided crafting should be nerfed down to only a personal necessity? Additionally, high level mats may only be found in certain places and can NOT be farmed solo. Huh? Yes, you guessed it. Blizzard wants us to experience the one thing they consider to be their main selling base, the dungeon.
For me, this is a frustration. You'd think that an MMO would open up for a myriad ways for leveling and experiencing the pleasure of the game. When you push everything towards one and only one format, you narrow the creativity of the game. Thus, it's a "one trick pony". Crafters are forced to hunt for items crucial for making high level armors and weapons in the raiding dungeons. So, just like the ol' days of the raiding guilds, that's what we have now. Nothing has really changed. Nothing is really new. Same old log in punch your "time card" and go to work in that raid dungeon. Drudgery, boredom waiting for 20 people to assemble for the raid and all that crap to decide who gets the drop. Yeah, 9 million people love and play this game, but only for a set period of time. There is high turn over. Unlike many games subscriptions tend to be a bit more steady. That means when you loose several thousand sunscribers, there are normally about that many that come into game.
Well, certainly will be interesting reading how many folks out don't really feel crafting is all that important in World of Warcraft. Hopefully, I will see a few though, that feel the same frustration I feel. You work your freakin' butt off to make the highest level of your craft, and then BOOM, Blizzard waves the nerfing wand and all you do now is for you and only you. What exactly is wrong with being able to sell what you craft? It is my understanding you can craft and sell just about everything you create in EverQuest 2. EQ2ers, please fill me in as to the importance of crafting in your game. What are we afraid of Blizz? Crafters would certainly be able to help out those guilds that are raiding. But, I guess, crafting just isn't all that it's cracked up to be after level 300, huh?
/bows sadly
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Just gimme some truth
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"With the addition of Siege Weapons and destructible buildings, its a step in the right direction."
WoW is the most original MMO i've ever seen created. Everyone always copies from WoW. Warhammer Online is a pure rip-off of WoW...
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Wait DAOC has had destructible buildings (keeps) and seige weapons in their game for 6 years. They must have known blizzard was going to be releasing WoW 6 years in the future. They stole their secrets and created the game 6 years before blizzard could release WoW. Yes thats the answer!! everyone copies wow!
"How can any one hate the new WoW xpac?!?!"
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Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Blizzard didnt ruin the game till TBC came out, but yet they managed to add new content, new raid dungeons and expand the lore just fine without ruining the game prior to all of this. Blizzard went from a player-friendly game (aside from the 50hour raids), to making it so you had to hardcore grind just to experience further content.
Perfect example: The Black Citadel
The grind to get the rep to get into the heroic dungeon is insane, the dungeon is harder then Naxx by like 50 (very few guilds completed Naxx prior to TBC), you have to then clear this dungeon to get the key to even be allowed into The Black Citadel, (which is 100x's harder then Naxx) then clear everything through that within a weeks time span...
You tell me whats wrong with this picture.
Keep in mind that only a few guilds throughout the entire game have made it to the Black Citadel, and we're expecting the new xpac in what? Q1, Q2 08'?
Hardly enough time to get everyone their raid gear who raids in a guild and to push through all the dungeons at the same time.
"And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."
Yeah, I think that's why a ton of people got burnt on this title so quickly. I also think its funny when people whine about expansions because their gear will be obselete. Isn't the point of an MMORPG is that the game is constantly evolving? If you reached a plateau, you'd move on to another game. The key is creating expansions that do feel like an evolution, rather than a reworking of tired concepts and continued timesinks in the form of rep grinding and revisiting the same old crap over and over again.
maybe ppl are sick of having to pay to play WoW while 7 mill of asian get to play for free including the xpac?
In the U.S., even if you're not swimming in cash, paying approximately 50 cents a day for entertainment is not a lot to ask for. Whatever Blizzard works out with their Asian providers is probably appropriate to keep them competitive in those nations where the average income is only a fraction of what we make here. I'm sure they make up for subscription rates in other ways (remember their advertising partnership with Coke in China a couple years back?)