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Why is there so much hype about this game??
ethion
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I mean it is neat that it is Conan but this is from the guys that did AO so I have plenty of fear about the quality of the game. And then we have this strange combat system that will involve hitting patterns of keys to do special combos.... Ultimately how long will it be till those get macroed.... Also it looks like it will be extremely positional based to hit things in that if you aren't close enough and facing the right direction you miss. Is anyone worried about how this will be effected by lag and stuff?!
Anyway I see lots of people thinking this is the next big thing but I'm not sure I'm seeing why??
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Actually AO is an excellent game, and broke alot of new ground in MMO gendre. As far as actually having to face your enemy and swing in a manner that hits it.... sounds good to me. As for macros... we'll have to see but one has to foresee that they would not let that happen. As to lag... that term is much misunderstood. Do you mean lag in the way your computer cant keep up with all the action, or do you mean net lag and positional accuracy because of bad pings?
Conan is one of the few IP's that are big enough to create a long running game from. Over 40 books and two decades of comics is alot to draw from, as opposed to say four books as in the case of LOTR. FC is also remaining true to the Conan property by making it gritty and lived in. Also by using adult themes as Howard did in his books.
The graphics in AOC are really amazing and the game will cater to both the PVE and PVP fans. These are just a few of the reasons that people are excited about AOC.
There is maybe hype on mmorpg.com site, but not at global. Most of computer magazines and sites are completly uninterested in AoC.
Even if you obviously dont know anything about this game, you mention main reasons why this game should be good = its from AO devs, new combat system, detailed Hyboria and true to lore, fun PvP and sieges.
Yes, it can be bad on release (every game could), but now it seems as the next big and interesting MMO game.
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Seems the combat system is the biggest change from the current big MMOs. Everything else seems interesting and solid. Next gen graphics. Personally, I'm looking forward to combat that takes both hands and constant attention, instead of leaning on auto-attacks. I just hope it's actually fun and not too tedious. I'm a little fatigued over the wait - but I'm still pretty excited about this title.
My concerns about lag are the positional elements. In a game with positional combat and range positional issues will be a big problem. It is a problem in other games sometimes when these elements aren't even as significant.
Macros are really keyboard macros or external programs. Stuff like 1123 - is a combo that takes x endurance and does some combo damage bonus. so you create a macro f1 that sends this sequence using a thirdparty keyboard macro or even better buy a gaming keyboard that does it for you completely outside the game....
As far as AO goes I played AO from beta and the game was completely bug ridden and lag ridden for at least the first year. I played it at launch which was a real challenge but as you say it had some innovative features. Then I tried it again a year after launch and it was still marginal... So I don't see how being the devs behind AO is a strong plus other than perhaps lessons learned but recent MMORPG releases by veteran game devs hasn't seemed to be all that good. Ie AC2, Vanguard, to name a couple...
Conan does have good material and the game might have good graphics but these are only important after playability and bug free performance issues are addressed. But again I'm maybe incorrectly under the perception that a lot of people see this game as the next big thing and there seems like there is a lot of excitement around it and I was just curious why.
There seems to be less for pretty much everything other then maybe war on the list of games coming out in the next year.
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Ethion
Then we have looked at totally different places, I've seen lots of big articles on this game in magazines and everyone seems really excited about AoC.
Myself was very intrested in 2 other upcoming games, but after I've beta-tested them I am deciding not to go for them at all, so hype is far from a guarantee for a good game. Still I think this game will be good and until proved otherwise I can only guess. Also looking forward to Warhammer & Chronicles..
OP, your concerns mirror my own. I was there for AO's beta and release so I can understand that certainly. The lag and server downtime were particularly horrid (I remember most people calling the game 'Anarchy Offline' back then, thats how bad the downtime was).
The lag and its effects on pvp is a huge issue that I've personally been waiting to be eased with decent footage. I've been looking for pvp sieges or even just a fair number of pvp players going at it, so that I can observe the lag and combat effects with several players on the screen at once. Funcom has not yet released anything with more than 3v3 players at once (and i think even then, they didn't all fight together against eachother at the same time, it was more trickled in with maybe 2v1-2v2.
I still hold out hope that they will either release that footage before release or that people will try to push them a little bit more for it. It would be a bit of a gamble right now to shell out the cash when such a major aspect of mmorpgs (multiple players on screen) remains hidden from public view.
Imo LAG will kill this game. Also outside this and a few other forums this game is unheard of. The conan name counts for nothing. Most people have never heard of the conan books/comics and maybe a few saw the swarzznegger films. Not that a big IP is enough to make it a big hit, LOTR is a much bigger ip and that game's out look isn't so hot.
Then we have looked at totally different places, I've seen lots of big articles on this game in magazines and everyone seems really excited about AoC.
Myself was very intrested in 2 other upcoming games, but after I've beta-tested them I am deciding not to go for them at all, so hype is far from a guarantee for a good game. Still I think this game will be good and until proved otherwise I can only guess. Also looking forward to Warhammer & Chronicles..
Thats because you are living in Sweden (same Country as Funcom has it base of operation), so it only naturel it got a good PR from there. But it hardly mention in either Danish or some of the Germany gaming magazines. But they mostly only write about either World of Warcraft or Warhammer Online. But if you care, maybe you good mention of the of swedish magazines with the articles.
Then we have looked at totally different places, I've seen lots of big articles on this game in magazines and everyone seems really excited about AoC.
Myself was very intrested in 2 other upcoming games, but after I've beta-tested them I am deciding not to go for them at all, so hype is far from a guarantee for a good game. Still I think this game will be good and until proved otherwise I can only guess. Also looking forward to Warhammer & Chronicles..
Thats because you are living in Sweden (same Country as Funcom has it base of operation), so it only naturel it got a good PR from there. But it hardly mention in either Danish or some of the Germany gaming magazines. But they mostly only write about either World of Warcraft or Warhammer Online. But if you care, maybe you good mention of the of swedish magazines with the articles.
Battlekruse for someone involved in a job such as you say you do and how you follow and put shit on Funcom all the time, you of all people should know they are based out of Norway. Not Sweden. In Germany, where the GC was held, the awards were given out by the German Press and hence AoC one best at show (twice) quite an achievement considering how many people are interested in warhammer in that country! There was a recent press article which stated that AoC costs so far more money than Norways most expensive film! I wouldn't expect that the Danish subs to be that massive to be honest.
Warcry Network, Game Trailers, G4, Gamespot, Gamespy, IGN all have followed AoC quite well. UK magazine have had hands on time with AoC too, in N America same can be said for PC Gamer magazine. A Japanese gaming media outfit recently uploaded several video media of the game from GC and Dragon*Con too.
The Hype is just deserved in my opinion, same for all the games on the list here at this site.
I guess when you really look around and open your eyes for information its not hard to find.
EDIT* - To the OP as your a staunch defender of Vanguard and seeing your posts in defence of that game in the past, maybe some of what you say could be applied here too, such as "let them finish the game first?"
If you ever play a game on PS2 called "Magna Carta" that is what this combat system is, rediculous -- dont waste your time installing this game
Hey have you ever played Age of Conan??
NO?
Well try when its out and when your 17+ then, until then propose your concern in a proper way if you want to be taken seriously.
I don't see how you can compare it with that game.
Is there a game this guy likes? Check his history. Every post is in a different forum. About a different game to which he is an "expert."
I guess we will just use the process of elimination.
I'm not sure I'd go overboard characterizing me as a defender of vanguard. I still play vanguard some but in my opinion there was a lot of hype around vanguard and that was a disaster. I'm just looking at another game in a similar vein and wondering why? Vanguard and Tabala Rosa have some hype behind them cause they are being done by "experienced" developers with a solid success in their backgrounds. But AoC only has AO in it's background which in my opinion is a black mark....
Back on vanguard, just for the record in my opinion the game was released way too early but in spite of that has more breadth and potential then any game. Course none of that does you any good at all if the game is too laggy to play, crashes constantly, and while being broad is also broadly incomplete. It still saddens me to see what a mess came of vanguard and I'm still kinda hopeful that in 6 months or a year they can relaunch the game as it should have been from the beginning. I think the failure was Richard Garrot while being a great vision person isn't a good manager...
Anyway thats my opinion on vanguard. That said it is improving consistently and like eq2 will probably get there in time.
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Ethion
It's CONAN hehe, well known brand looks fancy, I really am not sure about the depoth of game play here someone more involved in the game could better answer this question? I am sure a number of people will enjoy this.. not one for me
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As far as i understand combat system from videos and write up, it works like this:
1. You target a mob. Whether you will be auto facing the mob independently from the movements (which will make things easier), or will have to do it manually (could be a pain) i don't know, but really hope the first.
2. Hit him with one of the 5 attacks. Depending where the hit ended, arm, torso, little roundel in the middle of the screen lights up. So you have like 1 sec to hit the highlighted key. If you don't nothing happens, you just executed single attack. If you do, than next key lights up, so you have to hit it too and so on. In this way combo gets executed. Fatality and stuff.
I don't see how any macros can do anything here.
Also ranged toons will not have 5 attack keys, more like 3 or 2, don't remember.
As far as i understand combat system from videos and write up, it works like this:
1. You target a mob. Whether you will be auto facing the mob independently from the movements (which will make things easier), or will have to do it manually (could be a pain) i don't know, but really hope the first.
2. Hit him with one of the 5 attacks. Depending where the hit ended, arm, torso, little roundel in the middle of the screen lights up. So you have like 1 sec to hit the highlighted key. If you don't nothing happens, you just executed single attack. If you do, than next key lights up, so you have to hit it too and so on. In this way combo gets executed. Fatality and stuff.
I don't see how any macros can do anything here.
Also ranged toons will not have 5 attack keys, more like 3 or 2, don't remember.
3 directional attack for caster and range when using melee I believe, with most spells coming way of cone shaped directional usage, or manually steering you AoE spell for example. Not locking on with auto target and having your AoE spell follow the target in the last example. Rangers having an additional "Sniper" mode.
there is no auto target as we commonly see, but there is a soft "tab" target to assist. Combat still provides a level of skill to use, more so that the point, click, hotkey for skill from the looks of it.
As for macroing, and G15 usage, there has been plenty of talk on the official forums.
vbmenu_register("postmenu_961882", true);
Yes we all had g-15s but used it mostly for data entry macros.
Just adding some to your comments.
One reason I'm so hyped for AoC, is because Funcom also made Dreamfall. The Longest Journey, and Dreamfall are two of the best adventure games I've ever played and they have amazing stories and rich settings. I've played almost every major MMO so far, and I think that Age of Conan will suit my tastes more than anything else in development. Until the BioWare secret MMO is revealed! I've never played Anarchy Online, but if they put as much passion into this as they did into Dreamfall, I know it will be great.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZ-SGljHik
Let me help you in on something, the WoW target system is not a funny thing. And there YOU can have macroes. The whole targeting system supports the idea.
In AOC you have to aim. You can step out of the way of a attack......wich mean that a macro is pretty useless.
Noone care how much your macro character cuts the air in front of him/her.
imo aoc has a lot of things to live up too and its not showing me enough actual proof to make me think there going to live up to all the hype... least with WAR we have seen some of the awsoneness....that and i like the WAR world better then the AoC one..
Good luck, I hope War isnt pushed back again, they need all the time they can, especially without all the classes been shown, just like AoC does. But I'd take AoC's awesomeness over war's anyday
Considering that Conan has been around for more than 70 years and was created by the father of Sword and Sorcery, theres no surprise at all why this game has so much hype. Conan is the biggest and the best fantasy hero of all time imo.
With the crowds flocking to WAR and leaving AOC behind, one can only hope AOC makes a smooth release in an attempt to win back some people!