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Am I right there wont be any instant spells in WAR?
Kshahdoo
Member Posts: 553
If yes then, well, I very doubt there will be alotta pvpers who move from WoW to WAR... As to me that's for sure. I stopped to play WoW but I wont play any other game not having WoW pace and drive...
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So your deciding factor when looking at a new game is whether or not it will have instant cast spells? You can't wait 1 second or 2 seconds to do something? Have you been tested for ADD?
Good, that's your own problem.
This is not going to be WoW2 or Daoc2 with a lot of insta stuff.
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Yes, exactly. And yes, I can wait. It's my opponents who wont be able to - they just will kill me...
And the main problem (not for me but for Mythic) it's not only me who thinks the same way. Competition, you know. I dont think EA will be very happy if WAR will become another EverQuest with half a million subscribers...
Um... your enemy won't have instant spells either so he will have to wait.
In DAoC instant abilities couldn't instant kill people. I am not sure what you want out of this to be honest.
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Yes, exactly. And yes, I can wait. It's my opponents who wont be able to - they just will kill me...
And the main problem (not for me but for Mythic) it's not only me who thinks the same way. Competiotion you know. I dont think EA will be very happy if WAR will become another EverQuest with half a million subscribers...
Where do I even start? Um, that is the most idiodic deciding factor I have ever heard of (imo). I think that sums it up.
You are the only person I have seen on any of the boards who expresses this concern. Wouldn't it make sense then that they would also have to wait 1 or 2 seconds to cast their spell? I highly doubt that no instant cast spells would affect Mythics subscriptions to a game with this much hype behind it.
God forbid Mythic creates a game that is still holding its own 9 years after release. I mean, cmon what a failure that is. HUH? AM I RIGHT?
Stick with Warcraft my friend.
Yes, exactly. And yes, I can wait. It's my opponents who wont be able to - they just will kill me...
And the main problem (not for me but for Mythic) it's not only me who thinks the same way. Competition, you know. I dont think EA will be very happy if WAR will become another EverQuest with half a million subscribers...
Instant gratification. again.
Honestly, I'm glad for both you and EA Mythic for doing this. Serves to actually show skill and positioning for casting. Rather then a mage just being able to use instant spells to get away and do damage it will mean that some sort of planning and counter-measures will be in place to allow balance. And I'm glad you won't be coming over because spells in most fantasy settings weren't just something that can be instantaneously brought into existance...usually requiring at least a few seconds of chanting some incantation or drawing a mystic sign in the air. Fits in with the theme.
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DAoC was a crap. Casters couldnt cast while moving there...
That right there sums you up. DAOC was and probably still is the greatest pvp ever in an MMO.
I think I hear AV calling you!!!
As I said it's not my problem but Mythic. EA doesnt need another second level MMORPG. EA needs a WoW competitor. If WAR wont be able to compete WoW then, well, it will die. Like DAoC has already died...
Sounds good that WAR will not be about mages running into crowds of people spamming arcane explosion. Guess you need to stick with WoW if you prefer instant spamming over and over and over instead of tactics.
Take it easy man. A game can be fun without being WoW. A game can be profitable without having WoW suscriptions. You should try a game before forming your opinion, you never know what you will find in the next mmorpg.
In other hand, i think some guys in this thread are a little upset with WoW players, and WoW is just another game. Is not the devil, and WoW players are not demons.
If the boy is asking about instant spells, you can only explain how will War spells work, and why you think are better or worst than WoW ones. We can learn from other people opinions and explainations
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That right there sums you up. DAOC was and probably still is the greatest pvp ever in an MMO.
I think I hear AV calling you!!!
ROFL. Yes, best advice to OP is to stick to the game you're so content with. You're really hopping from point to point here not really making any valid arguments or supporting them with fact--just trying to start yet another tired old WAR vs. WoW slamfest.
Jesus... heaven forbid people make up their damn minds... they complain that WAR = WoW... omg.. but then people jump on and want it to copy SOME aspects of the game... good lord.
WAR WILL NOT BE WORLD OF WARCRAFT... end of story.
The only merit I can bring to this is that in WoW... which War will NOT be... (see above).. I played a mage... and if all you could ever do was stand and cast.. you'd lose a butt ton of survivability.. cause contrary to popular belief... you could not run around and kill people with instant casts.. but you could get a warrior in combat before he charged you and 2 shot you. So, maybe the OP is talking about something like that.. but theres like a million ways to get around that .. that aren't instant cast spells.
It's obvious you never were a pvp guru in WoW. I got 11, 12 and 13 rank warriors in WoW and never had any problems with mages spamming instants. These were all those instants that made WoW so unique and attractive. And popular too. I'd say no pvp freak like me will play any other type of game after trying WoW. So WAR wont have us. And it's about millions players i'd say...
That right there sums you up. DAOC was and probably still is the greatest pvp ever in an MMO.
I think I hear AV calling you!!!
Totally agree
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
Hehe, man, you can throw a look at a modern MMO market and see there are no any big numbers of subscribers out of WoW. WAR must attract WoW players to be successful - that's the main Mythic problem...
It's obvious you never were a pvp guru in WoW. I got 11, 12 and 13 rank warriors in WoW and never had any problems with mages spamming instants. These were all those instants that made WoW so unique and attractive. And popular too. I'd say no pvp freak like me will play any other type of game after trying WoW. So WAR wont have us. And it's about millions players i'd say...
Omg good, just go and play wow.Daoc has instas too, but why they make wow unique and not daoc?
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
It's obvious you never were a pvp guru in WoW. I got 11, 12 and 13 rank warriors in WoW and never had any problems with mages spamming instants. These were all those instants that made WoW so unique and attractive. And popular too. I'd say no pvp freak like me will play any other type of game after trying WoW. So WAR wont have us. And it's about millions players i'd say...
Real PVPers play fps games not mmorpgs for pvp action.
Well, man just tell me how good you were in wow pvp and then... well, it will answer all questions
Really? That's mythic's main problem? To attract players from the WoW fanboi base because they have none of their own? And here all this time I thought for the past 25 years Warhammer had it's own fanbase. My bad man. I guess WoW just dominates with yet another thing over WAR in terms of not only having "Superior" PvP and "Superior" graphics but also a superior fan base because we all know how much longer WoW has had a fanbase over WAR don't we?
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Hate to break it to you but games like Legends of Mir 2 have far more subscribers than WoW.
And actually, WAR will most likely take a small percentage of players from about 50 different games, so again incorrect.
On another note, WoW Pvp rankings in no way have anything to do with skill so I don't know why you would use that argument for anything. It was just another grind implemented by Blizzard.
Man, OP... your trying to legitimize your claim by flaunting your WoW pvp skills.... sad
Just don't play War if you think it needs Instant cast spells... I don't think anyone here is trying convince you that you should play this game.. but rather that your just an idiot.
PS - LOL at DAoC had instants.. but WoW is the one that was Unique for it... SO TRUE...
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OP is afraid that WAR won't have any easymode classes like the warlock. Don't worry dude. These are the same people who made DAoC. There will be easymode classes, and one will be introduced every other expansion.
What's the big deal?
Even Warcraft's limited amount of instant-cast spells are fairly weak against an opponent of equal standing that knows how to play. Where did you read that there will be no instant cast spells anyway? I haven't read that bit of information yet (not that it will effect my choice to play this game.)
For the sake of balance (of which I have also heard other game developers discuss the same topic including Blizzard) you can't give ranged DPS an over abundance of instant abilities unless they are equally balanced with ways for melee classes to root those players or other such things.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate movement in my PVP but I will never agree with instant ability ranged classes... melee has to have a way to fight those classes and casting times are the way to allow that balance. Kiting people to death is lame and lacks both imagination and skill.