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  • CPmmoCPmmo Member Posts: 309

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CPmmo

    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    Mythic has been that way since day one.  Mark Jacobs has always talked with a forked tongue, promise one thing do another.
    So many people get upset at Sony for NGE, yet Mythic self destroyed their game with an expansion all followed by numerous promises to fix said mess, all of course lies.  Finally after the game was in the throws of collapse they tried including classic servers.
    DAoC to this day probably has the most imbalanced pvp in any game.  They have far too many classes to even make an attempt at any kind of balance.
    Mark Jacobs and Smedley are two of a kind, never trust what either says to your detriment.

    Total lie.  DAoC had great PVP balance since it was never meant to be balanced 1vs1.  World of Warcraft is a lot less balanced then Dark Age of Camelot ever was. 

    Are you kidding? DAOC is infamous for its unbalanced classes, WoW is not.


    Warlocks, Overgeared Warriors, Stunlock Rogues...

     

    Those are imbalanced.  Especially in a game that focuses so much on 1vs1 combat and small group combat.  DAoC was designed to be group vs group combat.  Large scale war.  In large scale war any smaller imbalances are miniscule. 

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  • CPmmoCPmmo Member Posts: 309

    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Uraziel


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CPmmo

    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    Mythic has been that way since day one.  Mark Jacobs has always talked with a forked tongue, promise one thing do another.
    So many people get upset at Sony for NGE, yet Mythic self destroyed their game with an expansion all followed by numerous promises to fix said mess, all of course lies.  Finally after the game was in the throws of collapse they tried including classic servers.
    DAoC to this day probably has the most imbalanced pvp in any game.  They have far too many classes to even make an attempt at any kind of balance.
    Mark Jacobs and Smedley are two of a kind, never trust what either says to your detriment.

    Total lie.  DAoC had great PVP balance since it was never meant to be balanced 1vs1.  World of Warcraft is a lot less balanced then Dark Age of Camelot ever was. 

    Are you kidding? DAOC is infamous for its unbalanced classes, WoW is not.

     

    Are you kidding ? Do you actually PLAY WoW ? Do I need to show you the years of posts on their boards where they justify another nerf ( and more cry because they nerf ) ?

    Because heaven forbids)WoW developers actually work on balancing the classes, right?

    One of your more unbalanced responses Gameloading...no reason to let your total love for WOW  turn you into a troll.

     

     

    I never felt classes in DAOC were that unbalanced.... taken as a whole in the context of the game.... and Mythic did well in rebalancing when it was necessary....(never quite got the stealth classes right...but that's one reason why they won't have them in WAR)

    I played a lot of DAOC....and I met players of extreme skill in every class.  Can't think of a single one that didn't have great players who performed their role to an extraordinary level and helped their "team" win.

     

    QFT.

     

    Mythic did an excellent job with Balancing within the context of the game.  Where as World of Warcraft has had a lot of difficulty with balancing their few classes that both sides have.  Mythic had what 40+ classes?  With each realm having different classes.  I think Mythic has done a much better job with the balancing of DAoC then Blizzard has done in WoW. 

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  • UrazielUraziel Member Posts: 172

    @ Game, I'm sorry but you are simply wrong. I'm not quickly agitated by fanboying, but this is simply not true. Of course it's an attempt to balance, but the core of the classes in WoW, is simply not fit for balance. Fear for one. It's either useless, or useful, not both. Warriors,  medium blue/purple gear = useless, phat heavy epix gear, overpowered.

     

    Perhaps it's not in the classes, but in the gear, where WoWs weaknesses lie.

     

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  • CzzarreCzzarre Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,742

    I think the OP post can be sumed up in 1 line

    "I didnt get my Beta key...Waaaaaaaaaa"

    I mean , be serious...you are say your having a bad FIRST impression of Mythic, yet then you go on and list that you are a VETERAN subscriber to the newsletter, attend the mythic show AND applied to the beta. Sounds like youve been following mythic for a while

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  • iduumsiduums Member Posts: 205

    OP is annoyed because he didn't get his beta invite.  Going to those conventions guarantee you a spot, but does not guarantee which wave you will be in.

     

    Oh btw i'm in beta =0

  • Azure77Azure77 Member Posts: 355

        WoW's pvp was never balance :

     

        1st release - Warlock was broken in pvp , most skills didnt work well. The Age of the Shaman begun.

        2nd Major overhaul - Warlock still broken , Shadow Priest nerf .. The Age of the Paladin begins.

        3rd major overhaul - Warlocks mildly fixed , Shadow Priest adjusted , Holy  Priest badly nerfed.  Age of the Rogue begin.

     

        All classes are reset and revamp over the course of time.

     

              Burning Crusades - Rogue's stealth nerf , Warrior's Rage nerf , Warlock gets access to a new demon who is massively over powered. Hunter is massively overpower, a series of 3 shots stop all melee from getting near the hunter. Blood Elf massively overpower, Funny looking Blue things priest pretty much own.

     

            Horde still doesnt get Fear Ward , Horde priest speciality skills massive underpowered to the point of unlessness. Undead ability was massively nerf , Orc race traits massively overpowered.

  • DrenethDreneth Member Posts: 697

    Originally posted by Deathstiny


    ...So far I've been a big supporter of WAR and I still hope it will be a good game although after my first few experiences with Mythic my faith has been pretty shaken.
    I've never played DaoC as I've been a EQer since 1999 so WAR is my first time I'm dealing with Mythic...
    Mythic is owned by Electronic Arts... EA purchased them a few years ago.  Before EA took over, Mythic (in my opinion) was far more on the ball than now.

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  • CPmmoCPmmo Member Posts: 309
    Originally posted by Dreneth


     
    Originally posted by Deathstiny


    ...So far I've been a big supporter of WAR and I still hope it will be a good game although after my first few experiences with Mythic my faith has been pretty shaken.
    I've never played DaoC as I've been a EQer since 1999 so WAR is my first time I'm dealing with Mythic...
    Mythic is owned by Electronic Arts... EA purchased them a few years ago.  Before EA took over, Mythic (in my opinion) was far more on the ball than now.

     



    It didn't happen a few years ago.  EA just purchased Mythic, after Mythic began work on WAR.  That was June of 2006, so just over 1 year ago. 

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

     

    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Uraziel


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CPmmo

    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    Mythic has been that way since day one.  Mark Jacobs has always talked with a forked tongue, promise one thing do another.
    So many people get upset at Sony for NGE, yet Mythic self destroyed their game with an expansion all followed by numerous promises to fix said mess, all of course lies.  Finally after the game was in the throws of collapse they tried including classic servers.
    DAoC to this day probably has the most imbalanced pvp in any game.  They have far too many classes to even make an attempt at any kind of balance.
    Mark Jacobs and Smedley are two of a kind, never trust what either says to your detriment.

    Total lie.  DAoC had great PVP balance since it was never meant to be balanced 1vs1.  World of Warcraft is a lot less balanced then Dark Age of Camelot ever was. 

    Are you kidding? DAOC is infamous for its unbalanced classes, WoW is not.

     

    Are you kidding ? Do you actually PLAY WoW ? Do I need to show you the years of posts on their boards where they justify another nerf ( and more cry because they nerf ) ?

    Because heaven forbids)WoW developers actually work on balancing the classes, right?

    One of your more unbalanced responses Gameloading...no reason to let your total love for WOW  turn you into a troll.

     

     

    first,I suggest you look up what the word troll means before you throw it around. I was responding to a post, if that is trolling in your book then I guess you're trolling right about now.

    and 2, As I mentioned, DAOC is notorious for being unbalanced. I played a Necromancer and it was horrible to play. I have never played a class so weak as the Necromancer. thats not balance, far from it.

    But I forgot this is mmorpg.com, if you do not agree WoW = worst mmorpg ever and have the nerve to say anything bad about a game that is developed by the developers of WAR, then you're a troll.

    about the one complaining about equipment..erm, Duh? If you get a mage with good equipment, you'll be strong as well, and this goes for any class.

    And fear? fear has been nerfed already and it only lasts a few seconds now. It REALLY isn't that hard to beat a fear using character.

    There are even trinkets to remove fear for crying out loud.

    the problem is many people think "If I can't beat Class A, I'm underpowered and Class A is overpowered". Blizzard has repeatedly said that the classes are not build for 1 vs 1.

  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729

    Mythic is a badass MMO company, they just have shitty customer service.

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  • CPmmoCPmmo Member Posts: 309

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Uraziel


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CPmmo

    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    Mythic has been that way since day one.  Mark Jacobs has always talked with a forked tongue, promise one thing do another.
    So many people get upset at Sony for NGE, yet Mythic self destroyed their game with an expansion all followed by numerous promises to fix said mess, all of course lies.  Finally after the game was in the throws of collapse they tried including classic servers.
    DAoC to this day probably has the most imbalanced pvp in any game.  They have far too many classes to even make an attempt at any kind of balance.
    Mark Jacobs and Smedley are two of a kind, never trust what either says to your detriment.

    Total lie.  DAoC had great PVP balance since it was never meant to be balanced 1vs1.  World of Warcraft is a lot less balanced then Dark Age of Camelot ever was. 

    Are you kidding? DAOC is infamous for its unbalanced classes, WoW is not.

     

    Are you kidding ? Do you actually PLAY WoW ? Do I need to show you the years of posts on their boards where they justify another nerf ( and more cry because they nerf ) ?

    Because heaven forbids)WoW developers actually work on balancing the classes, right?

    One of your more unbalanced responses Gameloading...no reason to let your total love for WOW  turn you into a troll.

     

     

    first,I suggest you look up what the word troll means before you throw it around. I was responding to a post, if that is trolling in your book then I guess you're trolling right about now.

    and 2, As I mentioned, DAOC is notorious for being unbalanced

    But I forgot this is mmorpg.com, if you do not agree WoW = worst mmorpg ever and have the nerve to say anything bad about a game that is developed by the developers of WAR, then you're a troll.

    World of Warcraft is more notorious for being unbalanced, because more people complain about the imbalanced gear/classes in PVP on WoW then ever complained about DAoC. 

    Epic Geared Warriors (especially before the rage nerf) with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB. 

    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponents and even kill them after the warlock has already died.

    Rogues who are able to stunlock their opponent so that the other guy never gets a chance to control their character. 

    These are just some examples off the top of my head of imbalances in WoW.  They are all magnified by the significant gear differences when PVPing.  An extremely well geared person is worth 3-4 average geared individuals. 

    Those type of things never happened in DAoC.  Extremely well geared, well skilled, overpowered classes were killed by a realm's zerg.  Which always evened things up.  That was how the game was designed.  Not winning the fight?  Then bring more people.  

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  • DrenethDreneth Member Posts: 697

    Originally posted by CPmmo


    It didn't happen a few years ago.  EA just purchased Mythic, after Mythic began work on WAR.  That was June of 2006, so just over 1 year ago. 
    Thank you for the correction.  Either way... EA owns Mythic, and most of the current issues with Mythic titles are a result... in whole or in part.  Things certainly got worse when EA climbed the Mythic tree.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    okay, you're obviously biased and are unable to make a fair, unbiased post. because this:

    "

    Epic Geared Warriors (especially before the rage nerf) with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB. 

    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponents and even kill them after the warlock has already died.

    Rogues who are able to stunlock their opponent so that the other guy never gets a chance to control their character. "

    Is just downright incorrect. I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it to you because you're clearly biased.

    Epic geared warriors with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB? 15 people!? even 10 people!? Yeah, maybe if the other team was AFK.

    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponent? As I said, fear was nerfed long time ago and its impossible to keep using fear more than 3 times in a row. nevermind the fact that its possible to remove one by trinket, and every damage including every tick of DoT has a chance to remove fear.

     

    Rogue's who are able to stunlock to the points the opponent never gets a chance to control their character? Yeah on a character 20 levels below the rogue maybe.

  • CPmmoCPmmo Member Posts: 309

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
     
    first,I suggest you look up what the word troll means before you throw it around. I was responding to a post, if that is trolling in your book then I guess you're trolling right about now.
    and 2, As I mentioned, DAOC is notorious for being unbalanced. I played a Necromancer and it was horrible to play. I have never played a class so weak as the Necromancer. thats not balance, far from it.
    But I forgot this is mmorpg.com, if you do not agree WoW = worst mmorpg ever and have the nerve to say anything bad about a game that is developed by the developers of WAR, then you're a troll.
    about the one complaining about equipment..erm, Duh? If you get a mage with good equipment, you'll be strong as well, and this goes for any class.
    And fear? fear has been nerfed already and it only lasts a few seconds now. It REALLY isn't that hard to beat a fear using character.
    There are even trinkets to remove fear for crying out loud.
    the problem is many people think "If I can't beat Class A, I'm underpowered and Class A is overpowered". Blizzard has repeatedly said that the classes are not build for 1 vs 1.
    You base DAoC's balance on the Necromancer?  That is ridiculous the game was based on Group dynamics not on how well one class does. 

    Equal equipment is not always possible for players so yes it is unbalanced.  Gear is too powerful in WoW to make for balanced PVP.

    Fear has been nerfed but that doesn't mean that it didn't run rampant for a long time and was extremely overpowered.

     

    Blizzard doesn't balanced based on group dynamics.  If they did then they would have complimentary classes and would leave it at that.  Instead they create one imbalance to the next.  By trying to nerf and buff classes to bring them up to par with other classes based on whines.  How about Druids?  For awhile there they were replacing Warriors for tanking and Rogues for DPS.  They could do more then either.  Fury Warriors who could out DPS rogues yet could switch to a sword and board and tank at the touch of a button. 

    World of Warcraft is extremely unbalanced, and will be until they do away with the gear disparity between an average player and the "uber raider".

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059

     

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Uraziel


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CPmmo

    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    Mythic has been that way since day one.  Mark Jacobs has always talked with a forked tongue, promise one thing do another.
    So many people get upset at Sony for NGE, yet Mythic self destroyed their game with an expansion all followed by numerous promises to fix said mess, all of course lies.  Finally after the game was in the throws of collapse they tried including classic servers.
    DAoC to this day probably has the most imbalanced pvp in any game.  They have far too many classes to even make an attempt at any kind of balance.
    Mark Jacobs and Smedley are two of a kind, never trust what either says to your detriment.

    Total lie.  DAoC had great PVP balance since it was never meant to be balanced 1vs1.  World of Warcraft is a lot less balanced then Dark Age of Camelot ever was. 

    Are you kidding? DAOC is infamous for its unbalanced classes, WoW is not.

     

    Are you kidding ? Do you actually PLAY WoW ? Do I need to show you the years of posts on their boards where they justify another nerf ( and more cry because they nerf ) ?

    Because heaven forbids)WoW developers actually work on balancing the classes, right?

    One of your more unbalanced responses Gameloading...no reason to let your total love for WOW  turn you into a troll.

     

     

    first,I suggest you look up what the word troll means before you throw it around. I was responding to a post, if that is trolling in your book then I guess you're trolling right about now.

    and 2, As I mentioned, DAOC is notorious for being unbalanced. I played a Necromancer and it was horrible to play. I have never played a class so weak as the Necromancer. thats not balance, far from it.

    But I forgot this is mmorpg.com, if you do not agree WoW = worst mmorpg ever and have the nerve to say anything bad about a game that is developed by the developers of WAR, then you're a troll.

    about the one complaining about equipment..erm, Duh? If you get a mage with good equipment, you'll be strong as well, and this goes for any class.

    And fear? fear has been nerfed already and it only lasts a few seconds now. It REALLY isn't that hard to beat a fear using character.

    There are even trinkets to remove fear for crying out loud.



    Its all in the way you say it Gameloading..... you like to post in an inflammatory manner, which makes anyone a troll in my book.

     

     

    Also, the back and forth, unfounded statements.... someone says.. "WOW has unbalanced PVP, and DAOC doesn't"  and you reply, "DAOC is 'infamous' for unbalanced PVP" (sez you) but neither person is really right. 

    For the record, there never has been, there never will be a MMORPG game created that won't have people 'claiming' that the classes are unbalanced...all the more reason to develop games on skill systems rather than class systems...but that's an argument for another thread.

    As I mentioned, I've never seen a class in either game that couldn't destroy other players if played correctly by skilled players.

    And turning your own words against you... I forgot that this is Gameloading, if you think there's anything wrong in anyway with WOW than you must be a troll and your opinion isn't worth of being posted on the forums.

     

     

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  • CPmmoCPmmo Member Posts: 309

    Originally posted by Gameloading


    okay, you're obviously biased and are unable to make a fair, unbiased post. because this:
    "
    Epic Geared Warriors (especially before the rage nerf) with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB. 
    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponents and even kill them after the warlock has already died.
    Rogues who are able to stunlock their opponent so that the other guy never gets a chance to control their character. "
    Is just downright incorrect. I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it to you because you're clearly biased.
    Epic geared warriors with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB? 15 people!? even 10 people!? Yeah, maybe if the other team was AFK.
    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponent? As I said, fear was nerfed long time ago and its impossible to keep using fear more than 3 times in a row. nevermind the fact that its possible to remove one by trinket, and every damage including every tick of DoT has a chance to remove fear.
     
    Rogue's who are able to stunlock to the points the opponent never gets a chance to control their character? Yeah on a character 20 levels below the rogue maybe.
    Do you even play World of Warcraft and have a character at the level cap?  There have been plenty of videos of Warriors wiping out whole PUGs n AB and WSG.  Yes 10-15 people all dead by a duo. 

    As I said in my other post yes Warlock fear has now been nerfed, but it ran rampant for a long time. 

    Rogues can stunlock still, not as well as they used to be, but a well played rogue can keep their opponent totally incapable of controlling their own character and not someone 20 levels lower. 

    You are the one biased Gameloading.  Anytime anyone makes a disparaging remark you call them biased.  Wow I guess no one can have an unbiased thing to say about World of Warcraft in your eyes unless it is praise.  You want to see biased take a look in the mirror.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Uraziel


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CPmmo

    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    Mythic has been that way since day one.  Mark Jacobs has always talked with a forked tongue, promise one thing do another.
    So many people get upset at Sony for NGE, yet Mythic self destroyed their game with an expansion all followed by numerous promises to fix said mess, all of course lies.  Finally after the game was in the throws of collapse they tried including classic servers.
    DAoC to this day probably has the most imbalanced pvp in any game.  They have far too many classes to even make an attempt at any kind of balance.
    Mark Jacobs and Smedley are two of a kind, never trust what either says to your detriment.

    Total lie.  DAoC had great PVP balance since it was never meant to be balanced 1vs1.  World of Warcraft is a lot less balanced then Dark Age of Camelot ever was. 

    Are you kidding? DAOC is infamous for its unbalanced classes, WoW is not.

     

    Are you kidding ? Do you actually PLAY WoW ? Do I need to show you the years of posts on their boards where they justify another nerf ( and more cry because they nerf ) ?

    Because heaven forbids)WoW developers actually work on balancing the classes, right?

    One of your more unbalanced responses Gameloading...no reason to let your total love for WOW  turn you into a troll.

     

     

    first,I suggest you look up what the word troll means before you throw it around. I was responding to a post, if that is trolling in your book then I guess you're trolling right about now.

    and 2, As I mentioned, DAOC is notorious for being unbalanced. I played a Necromancer and it was horrible to play. I have never played a class so weak as the Necromancer. thats not balance, far from it.

    But I forgot this is mmorpg.com, if you do not agree WoW = worst mmorpg ever and have the nerve to say anything bad about a game that is developed by the developers of WAR, then you're a troll.

    about the one complaining about equipment..erm, Duh? If you get a mage with good equipment, you'll be strong as well, and this goes for any class.

    And fear? fear has been nerfed already and it only lasts a few seconds now. It REALLY isn't that hard to beat a fear using character.

    There are even trinkets to remove fear for crying out loud.



    Its all in the way you say it Gameloading..... you like to post in an inflammatory manner, which makes anyone a troll in my book.

     ah, guess we all start using our very own definition of words.

     

    Also, the back and forth, unfounded statements.... someone says.. "WOW has unbalanced PVP, and DAOC doesn't"  and you reply, "DAOC is 'infamous' for unbalanced PVP" (sez you) but neither person is really right. 

    For the record, there never has been, there never will be a MMORPG game created that won't have people 'claiming' that the classes are unbalanced...all the more reason to develop games on skill systems rather than class systems...but that's an argument for another thread.

    As I mentioned, I've never seen a class in either game that couldn't destroy other players if played correctly by skilled players.

    And turning your own words against you... I forgot that this is Gameloading, if you think there's anything wrong in anyway with WOW than you must be a troll and your opinion isn't worth of being posted on the forums.

     No, not really.

     

     

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

     

    Originally posted by CPmmo


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading


    okay, you're obviously biased and are unable to make a fair, unbiased post. because this:
    "
    Epic Geared Warriors (especially before the rage nerf) with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB. 
    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponents and even kill them after the warlock has already died.
    Rogues who are able to stunlock their opponent so that the other guy never gets a chance to control their character. "
    Is just downright incorrect. I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it to you because you're clearly biased.
    Epic geared warriors with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB? 15 people!? even 10 people!? Yeah, maybe if the other team was AFK.
    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponent? As I said, fear was nerfed long time ago and its impossible to keep using fear more than 3 times in a row. nevermind the fact that its possible to remove one by trinket, and every damage including every tick of DoT has a chance to remove fear.
     
    Rogue's who are able to stunlock to the points the opponent never gets a chance to control their character? Yeah on a character 20 levels below the rogue maybe.
    Do you even play World of Warcraft and have a character at the level cap?  There have been plenty of videos of Warriors wiping out whole PUGs n AB and WSG.  Yes 10-15 people all dead by a duo. 

     

    As I said in my other post yes Warlock fear has now been nerfed, but it ran rampant for a long time. 

    Rogues can stunlock still, not as well as they used to be, but a well played rogue can keep their opponent totally incapable of controlling their own character and not someone 20 levels lower. 

    You are the one biased Gameloading.  Anytime anyone makes a disparaging remark you call them biased.  Wow I guess no one can have an unbiased thing to say about World of Warcraft in your eyes unless it is praise.  You want to see biased take a look in the mirror.

    Do I currently play WoW? No. Do I have a character at the level cap? Yes.

     

    And no, Rogues can't stunlock any longer. I have played a rogue for a long time and even perfectly timing your cooldowns its not possible to stunlock any longer.

    And no I don't call anyone who maikes a disparaging remark biased, thats bullshit.

    saying WoW is one of the most unbalanced MMORPG's is just downright incorrect, WoW is even praised of its class balances in some of its reviews. and look at your signature, You feel a need to put a game down in your signature. and you're trying to tell me you're unbiased?

     

    we're bringind this thread off - topic, if you want to further discuss this, open a new thread in the WoW or DAOC section.

  • CPmmoCPmmo Member Posts: 309

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by CPmmo


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading


    okay, you're obviously biased and are unable to make a fair, unbiased post. because this:
    "
    Epic Geared Warriors (especially before the rage nerf) with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB. 
    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponents and even kill them after the warlock has already died.
    Rogues who are able to stunlock their opponent so that the other guy never gets a chance to control their character. "
    Is just downright incorrect. I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it to you because you're clearly biased.
    Epic geared warriors with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB? 15 people!? even 10 people!? Yeah, maybe if the other team was AFK.
    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponent? As I said, fear was nerfed long time ago and its impossible to keep using fear more than 3 times in a row. nevermind the fact that its possible to remove one by trinket, and every damage including every tick of DoT has a chance to remove fear.
     
    Rogue's who are able to stunlock to the points the opponent never gets a chance to control their character? Yeah on a character 20 levels below the rogue maybe.
    Do you even play World of Warcraft and have a character at the level cap?  There have been plenty of videos of Warriors wiping out whole PUGs n AB and WSG.  Yes 10-15 people all dead by a duo. 

     

    As I said in my other post yes Warlock fear has now been nerfed, but it ran rampant for a long time. 

    Rogues can stunlock still, not as well as they used to be, but a well played rogue can keep their opponent totally incapable of controlling their own character and not someone 20 levels lower. 

    You are the one biased Gameloading.  Anytime anyone makes a disparaging remark you call them biased.  Wow I guess no one can have an unbiased thing to say about World of Warcraft in your eyes unless it is praise.  You want to see biased take a look in the mirror.

    Do I currently play WoW? No. Do I have a character at the level cap? Yes.

     

    And no, Rogues can't stunlock any longer. I have played a rogue for a long time and even perfectly timing your cooldowns its not possible to stunlock any longer.

    And no I don't call anyone who maikes a disparaging remark biased, thats bullshit.

    saying WoW is one of the most unbalanced MMORPG's is just downright incorrect. and look at your signature, You feel a need to put a game down in your signature. and you're trying to tell me you're unbiased?


    Well last week when I was playing it was still possible to stunlock with a rogue.  Using all of your cooldowns it was possible including blind. 

     

    You consistently call anyone out that has a disparaging remark about WoW, Asian MMOs, and the PS3.  If someone says something wrong about any of them you call them biased and you claim that their opinion doesn't matter. 

    Saying WoW is one of the most unbalanced MMOs is not incorrect.  Hundreds and Hundreds of thousands of fans (if not millions) would agree based on the number of complaint posts on their forums about this class or that class.  If people percieve it to be unbalanced then it is. 

    I state my opinion on a Video Game it doesn't make me biased.  I never said that World of Warcraft was a bad game.  I said in my signature that if it wasn't a Blizzard game and it wasn't a Warcraft game that it would of never been as commercially successful.  It isn't the gameplay that has gotten Blizzard so many subscriptions.  It isn't the lore, the gear, the classes, etc.  It is the machine that is Blizzard and Warcraft.  One of the most successful Developers of video games period takes one of their most successful video games of all time and turns it into an MMO and then combines it with massive shelf space in stores, massive advertising, and their built in battle.net fan base and of course it was going ot be huge.  But none of that is due to how good a game World of Warcraft is.  If it had been made by Turbine or SOE, it would of been  moderate success  300K-500K at best.  That is just a fact of the marketplace.  Image matters more then substance. 

    War Beta Tester

  • 0k210k21 Member Posts: 866

    Bethesda, 2K Games and Bioware are the only companies I really respect in the industry apart from another one I plan on working with next year, I pretty much trust no other company other than them for now, why? Games are no longer about fun in most games developers eyes, they're about money.

    Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

     

    Originally posted by CPmmo


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by CPmmo


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading


    okay, you're obviously biased and are unable to make a fair, unbiased post. because this:
    "
    Epic Geared Warriors (especially before the rage nerf) with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB. 
    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponents and even kill them after the warlock has already died.
    Rogues who are able to stunlock their opponent so that the other guy never gets a chance to control their character. "
    Is just downright incorrect. I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it to you because you're clearly biased.
    Epic geared warriors with a healer could wipe out a whole team in WSG or AB? 15 people!? even 10 people!? Yeah, maybe if the other team was AFK.
    Warlocks who are able to constantly fear their opponent? As I said, fear was nerfed long time ago and its impossible to keep using fear more than 3 times in a row. nevermind the fact that its possible to remove one by trinket, and every damage including every tick of DoT has a chance to remove fear.
     
    Rogue's who are able to stunlock to the points the opponent never gets a chance to control their character? Yeah on a character 20 levels below the rogue maybe.
    Do you even play World of Warcraft and have a character at the level cap?  There have been plenty of videos of Warriors wiping out whole PUGs n AB and WSG.  Yes 10-15 people all dead by a duo. 

     

    As I said in my other post yes Warlock fear has now been nerfed, but it ran rampant for a long time. 

    Rogues can stunlock still, not as well as they used to be, but a well played rogue can keep their opponent totally incapable of controlling their own character and not someone 20 levels lower. 

    You are the one biased Gameloading.  Anytime anyone makes a disparaging remark you call them biased.  Wow I guess no one can have an unbiased thing to say about World of Warcraft in your eyes unless it is praise.  You want to see biased take a look in the mirror.

    Do I currently play WoW? No. Do I have a character at the level cap? Yes.

     

    And no, Rogues can't stunlock any longer. I have played a rogue for a long time and even perfectly timing your cooldowns its not possible to stunlock any longer.

    And no I don't call anyone who maikes a disparaging remark biased, thats bullshit.

    saying WoW is one of the most unbalanced MMORPG's is just downright incorrect. and look at your signature, You feel a need to put a game down in your signature. and you're trying to tell me you're unbiased?


    Well last week when I was playing it was still possible to stunlock with a rogue.  Using all of your cooldowns it was possible including blind. 

     

     

    You consistently call anyone out that has a disparaging remark about WoW, Asian MMOs, and the PS3.  If someone says something wrong about any of them you call them biased and you claim that their opinion doesn't matter. 

    No I don't, and it would be apreciated if you stopped posting this rediculous nonsense. "Omg, Gameloading says someone is biased here, and he does it again here! He must be saying that everytime someone posts something like that!" if you would have actually read more than 5 of my posts you would have known that it's bullshit.

    About your signature, I was pointing out that I think its sad that you even feel a need to put that in your signature and clearly shows that you are simply biased towards WoW, its that simple.

    I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore. You're trying to portray me as someone who calls everyone who disagrees with me and claim that their opinion doesn't matter. I think thats just pathetic.

  • CPmmoCPmmo Member Posts: 309

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    No I don't, and it would be apreciated if you stopped posting this rediculous nonsense. "Omg, Gameloading says someone is biased here, and he does it again here! He must be saying that everytime someone posts something like that!" if you would have actually read more than 5 of my posts you would have known that it's bullshit.
    About your signature, I was pointing out that I think its sad that you even feel a need to put that in your signature and clearly shows that you are simply biased towards WoW, its that simple.
    I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore. You're trying to portray me as someone who calls everyone who disagrees with me and claim that their opinion doesn't matter. I think thats just pathetic.
    In just some of hte recent threads I have read that you were in you called one guy biased towards PC games.  You called another guy biased against Asian MMO games and now you call me biased against WoW.  I actually have an active WoW account so how am I biased against WoW? 

    My signature once again is stating my belief that it wouldn't of had 9million+ subscribers if it wasn't made by Blizzard and wasn't based on the Warcraft franchise.  If Blizzard had made a Lost Vikings MMO and it was the exact same game it wouldn't have as many Subscribers.  Just like if Blizzard had outsourced a WoW mmo game to someone else, like Cryptic, Mythic, Turbine, etc it wouldn't have had as many subscribers.  That isn't showing biased against the game it is being a realist about the marketplace.  It takes more then a good game idea to make a good game.    It takes proper implementation, proper marketing, proper brand recognition, etc in order to pull off something as successful as World of Warcraft. 

     

     

    War Beta Tester

  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130

     

    Originally posted by Ozmodan
    So many people get upset at Sony for NGE, yet Mythic self destroyed their game with an expansion all followed by numerous promises to fix said mess, all of course lies.  Finally after the game was in the throws of collapse they tried including classic servers.
     



    Hell name one Developer that didnt destroy thier MMORPG with some freaking silly arse expansion, patch, addition, etc.  Go ahead I dare ya.

    Tiss the nature of this Genre sadly, utimately the thing that is responsible for the downfall of a MMO is not always its competition, its usually the very same people that made it.. Tell me how much sense that makes?....

     

    Anyways OP only thing I would really be upset about is the promise of a Beta key, people like you earned and deserve one, attending a game convention usual comes from the real die hard MMO fans. You would think they would try to put their best foot forward for peopel like you, but the thing I have learned (and continue to learn) is that people generally are STUPID.. So things that make sense are hardly ever done in this world.

     

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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • SymoneSymone Member Posts: 277

    Originally posted by xenogias


    Regardless of who they ship with, if they wont ship to a country there is a reason for it. Its as simple as that. If you dont like it thats your choice.  For your beta, have you checked your status. They hardly ever email someone telling them they got accepted. Best to just keep checking your status. As for the invite itself they may have been lieing or may not have. I work with a huge multi billion dollars database and unless you have worked with something so large, you have no idea how easy it is to misplace information. I have never had dealing with Mythic before through there online store or games so I am definitly not a fanboi.....yet.
     
    To the poster who said canadian money is worth more than american. Whats your point? No canada is not a third world country but the value of your dollar means jack squat. If everything was so peachy dandy in canada, why arent all the illegal aliens heading for canadas border instead of americas? I have nothing against Canada at all, but to try and argue your point with the value of a dollar is moronic at best.

     

     

    No, they are just lazy... stop pretending you know what you are talking about. You don't

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  • WARCRYtmWARCRYtm Member Posts: 875

    People forguet things so fast.

    Buff Bots never one bot was baned, mithic incoraged buff boting. After people started to play with 2 accounts mitic updated DAoC to have 2 accounts runing on one pc, wen you buy DR expantion it comes with a 2nd account so you can BB.

    Unbalance, armsman, no one plays it, it isnt good in pvp nither pve.(few to none mely classes can pvp)

    Bad expantions ToA(this one was so bad that mithic had to do classic servers without it) Darkness rising (were you can get to level 50 doing the same 3 quests over and over)

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