I went to one of the main cities on 3 differant servers and they were all empty.
[I have not posted in such a long time, I notice the interface is different.]
(1) EQ 2 is alive and well.
(a) EQ 2 is more populated, on my server, than it is on my WoW server. [Yes. I play WoW, EQ 2, et. al.]
Shame though, this game seemed so much better then WoW.
(2) EQ 2 has more content, features, classes, and I would say "fun" than WoW.
(a) If you play, I am confident you will also include "community," inter alia, that are better in EQ 2.
I tried on 3 differant servers
(3) Did you try Antonia Bayle or Nagafen?
(a) I play on Antionia Bayle, and I assure you the community is more alive and fresh and new than any current WoW servers. [To my knowledge WoW has not released a new server since TBC, circa 6 months ago. However, EQ 2's Antonia Bayle feels fresh and new because of the masses of new players joining, many from WoW.]
I bought EQ2. I played around on that tutorial island and this game looks really awesome. But.....I went to one of the main cities on 3 differant servers and they were all empty. I think I saw maybe one person. The trade channel was empty. This isn't just one server, I tried on 3 differant servers and they were all empty. So I'm probably gonna cancel my account. Shame though, this game seemed so much better then WoW. So is EQ2 pretty much dead?
The 2 Euro English servers, (I cant talk about the german or french ones) are usually witha good population, easy to find groups but not crowed. EQ2 population is in a really good health.
I went to one of the main cities on 3 differant servers and they were all empty.
[I have not posted in such a long time, I notice the interface is different.]
(1) EQ 2 is alive and well.
(a) EQ 2 is more populated, on my server, than it is on my WoW server. [Yes. I play WoW, EQ 2, et. al.]
Shame though, this game seemed so much better then WoW.
(2) EQ 2 has more content, features, classes, and I would say "fun" than WoW.
(a) If you play, I am confident you will also include "community," inter alia, that are better in EQ 2.
I tried on 3 differant servers
(3) Did you try Antonia Bayle or Nagafen?
(a) I play on Antionia Bayle, and I assure you the community is more alive and fresh and new than any current WoW servers. [To my knowledge WoW has not released a new server since TBC, circa 6 months ago. However, EQ 2's Antonia Bayle feels fresh and new because of the masses of new players joining, many from WoW.]
any numbers to support this?
Numbers aren't really necessary. There are a rather significant number of low-very low population WoW servers because they have far more than they need. It isn't exactly a stretch to come to the conclusion that a game, although less populated, will be more densely packed because there are far fewer servers present.
An expansion or the number of expansions isn't really a good way to tell how a game is doing. I know EQ2 is doing more than "just fine", so don't take this the wrong way...
...but try talking to the people that bought the AC2 expansion pack about said packs being an indicator of a game's good health.
I was there when the whole AC2 Expansion thing happened. I played AC2 for over a year, then updates were reduced from monthly to bi-monthly. This was to allow dev time to work on the expansion. The expansion came out and it was a flop. It was poorly promoted/advertised and shortly after they announced AC2 would be no more. And I hit the cancel button on AC2 and decided not to purchase LotRO which I had been waiting for since it was Middle Earth Online. Sadly they continued to sell the expansion after the shutting down of the servers had been anounced. AC2 was never doing "just fine" having played both EQ2 recently (1 week ago) and AC2 for a year up till it was announced it was to close down. I can tell you there is no comparison at all. AC2 had 600 people at prime time on two servers. EQ2 has 22 servers or so and I'm sure they get at least 600 at prime time at least.
Well, you kind of missed the point.
My point was that judging a game's health solely on it's current expansion pack status and quantity isn't the most wise way of going about things. That's all. You analyzed my statement a bit too deeply.
But, you also discussing one expansion...vs...FOUR...AC2 is the worst example you could have used...
If EQ2 was doing so badly, would they be ready to release a fourth expansion? Why do that if they were dying? This is not your first expansion in hopes it will bring in more players...it is an expansion to continue growing players...there is a HUGE difference..
We can judge EQ2's health on this latest expansion also due to the fact that with expansion 3 (The FAE), Sony saw growth due to it's popularity...so, yes, we can gauge health here..
Cheers!
*sigh*
The statement wasn't even directed really at EQ2, it was mostly a general statement. And, yes, you can have plenty of expansions made with a declining player base, since the first one may not necessarily bring in the target amount of players.
UO after EA's takeover, for example. Then there's the late expansions for the original EQ.
The point I was trying to make was that a statement, taken by itself, that a game with 4 expansions must be doing just fine, is a bit misleading. That's all. Everyone is over-thinking my comment and taking it as a jab at the game. It wasn't. I was just pointing out a bit of interesting logic, that when taken by itself, can be quite misleading.
I simply used AC2 as an example because it was the most blatant and well-known failure of an expansion pack launch released.
You are stating examples of either long dead games (AC2) or a game SO old, that they have already made back their money and then some, that any release is just to thank the fans who stuck it out for so long..
But, you may be right...there may be a declining user base...but, the fact remains, each time an expansion for EQ2 is released, they also see growth again...based on statements from various sources (sales of boxes and scrips)...so yes, we can still gauge health, and growth on this fact...
We understand also, your not taking a jab at the game, but at my comment...so, as well, I will be able to enforce my claim based on that comment ...
If the game was "DEAD" as politely put here by the OP, then why release an expansion...but, I did not disagree to dying...But, really, why kill something that still brings in cash to SOE...
I left the game in jan 07, im coming back after my long futile escapade to find something better, this however is what i believe the issue may be.
people are active, they go out and do things, they dont wait around in the cities, not to mention different players hang around different parts of the cities. with the EoF, alot of people are using that area's city or cities i guess now. Since you didnt specify the city you tried starting out of, or the servers, no real evaluation of your problem can be given.This game is Sony's main mmo title, i doubt it will die unless by the hands of an EQ3(hypothetical concept, don't read into it).
as for the comment on blizzard releasing 1 expansion in the time it took sony to do 4, I know you were looking to point at quality, but come on, seriously. I used to work for Cendent Corp. who owned blizzard, they have always been slow about releasing anything. The company is not as old or well funded as Sony, just check its history. Don't get me wrong, Blizzard is an outstanding company, though i thought WoW was below their standards, but blizzard is in the midst of the older giants, and thus i won't claim that the one expansion took so long cause they were slackers.
People should realize that this isn't a game where all the population of the server stands sitting on their backsides in one of the 2 cities of the world. There are 4 major cities in Norrath and people only go there to either craft or visit the broker. Nobody spends their ingame time spaming channels with rubish and looking bored in the auction house, or the bank (several in each town in eq2), people only go to a city to do something.
Its an old and established community, tough many new players join every day, most popular areas are the new ones, Neriak and Kelethin, where its normal to find loads of people and lots on trial.
I don't think the population of 182k for EQ2 is accurate. If you would tell where you got the info I might believe it. As for running around and not seeing people, this may be true at some times of the day, but most of the servers are plenty stocked.
Someone twisted my arm and I went on WoW for a few days on a free trial (basically to appease him). It was 3 hours before I saw another name besides my friend. Every game after a while has that lull in the lower ranks. Thats why it's generally easier. The next day I got a lot of attention from the gold sellers inviting me to group so they could spam.
This sounds like a troll post by the OP. The game is fine and empty. Plenty of people are playing. THanks for the feedback, but you don't bring anything to the table
You gotta be kidding me
"This sounds like a troll post by the OP."
Yup, asking a question=troll post
"The game is fine and empty"
Nice typo
" Plenty of people are playing"
If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I went to 3 differant servers and the cities were empty. That's why I asked if there are people playing.
"THanks for the feedback, but you don't bring anything to the table"
Are you this retarded? Since when is a question feedback? since when is a question supposed to bring something to the "table"?
Can't add much more than what has been said already but to point out that, in some ways, EQ2 is simply a bit different than many MMORPG's out there. There is simply so much to do aside from questing for loot that you won't find people standing around the cities. There is no need to promote your auctions via spam ala WOW, although I have seen it done, due to the manner in which the broker is set up. There is really no need to congregate around the few mailboxs (again, ala WOW) because there are a bunch of them in the world.
My suggestion is to start a new character. Try a fae (one of the new races where people are still experimenting with) and give some of the servers suggested a try. Even on my server (Lucan - not the most populated) I can find people to talk to, group with, interact with and enjoy. Look for a good guild, there are many advertising for members. Just hanging around the city is not going to provide you with an idea of what the game has to offer.
The game is massive, and many players are in 1) instanced dungeons, 2) instanced homes, and 3) instanced guild halls. People can participate in the broker while in their homes, and they can also develop their profession skills while in a home.
The community is remarkably vibrant, helpful, and friendly. It is also incredibly healthful considering how 1) large the world is and 2) how many are in instances. I know people that spend the most part of the day in their home developing trade skills. As I said, my EQ 2 server is more healthful, friendly, populated, and out-going than my WoW server. [I am going to cancel WoW again; every time I sign-up I regret it in a day.]
----- WoW and fast food = commercial successes. I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
Well anyone have the subscription numbers for EQ2?
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
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Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
I think that is outstanding. I do not need to play a game with 5 million Asians (so many play WoW because it is grindy and the system requirements are so low) to consider it a "healthful population."
I do not speak Mandarin Chinese. I sold my WoW account to a Thai. I do not speak Thai, but I know many represent a substantial portion of that population.
You have so many bots and gold-sellers in WoW that I wonder how many are flesh-and-blood Americans. [here is a flesh-and-blood American but he does not play: he uses "bots" www.youtube.com/watch
----- WoW and fast food = commercial successes. I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
I think that is outstanding. I do not need to play a game with 5 million Asians (so many play WoW because it is grindy and the system requirements are so low) to consider it a "healthful population."
I do not speak Mandarin Chinese. I sold my WoW account to a Thai. I do not speak Thai, but I know many represent a substantial portion of that population.
You have so many bots and gold-sellers in WoW that I wonder how many are flesh-and-blood Americans. [here is a flesh-and-blood American but he does not play: he uses "bots" www.youtube.com/watch
Im not saying its a bad thing, im just pointing out that EQ2 has had it top , and its now slowly on its way down, cuz it had have dubbel the size of subs.
Playing:World of Warcraft. Played:Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies. Tried:Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
"This sounds like a troll post by the OP." Yup, asking a question=troll post "The game is fine and empty" Nice typo " Plenty of people are playing" If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I went to 3 differant servers and the cities were empty. That's why I asked if there are people playing.
You don’t yet have access to the chat channels most people use and EQ2 cities are not like WoW where the is a single AH people need to go and 20 other people get naked /dance and go AFK in front of it. Just because population patterns are not the same as in WoW doesn’t mean no one is there.
Well anyone have the subscription numbers for EQ2?
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also...
Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has...
Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard)
You don’t yet have access to the chat channels most people use and EQ2 cities are not like WoW where the is a single AH people need to go and 20 other people get naked /dance and go AFK in front of it. Just because population patterns are not the same as in WoW doesn’t mean no one is there.
All run-ons aside, this poster is correct. The population patterns are different than I was used to as well. I started out with NOone in the zone with me. At level 20, I am begining to see more and more people as I am able to move freely across more zones. Give it some time, and enjoy some of the low level quests you can knock out for quick exp. You will be in the mix of things in no time...
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The main cities are not the best places to get a feel for the population. I still reside in my starter apartment in Willow Wood, so other than picking up writs on occasion, I have no reason to go to the city. And even Willow Wood I only return to at the end of my play time to put items up for sale.
Explore and enjoy the world and you'll start running into the other players. Also, the upcoming expansion would be a great time to start a new character as there will likely be many others trying out the new Sarnak race and area. Have fun!
Well anyone have the subscription numbers for EQ2?
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also...
Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has...
Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard)
Well anyone have the subscription numbers for EQ2?
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also...
Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has...
Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard)
Cheers!
I'd doubt it even had that tbh.
It's healthy. What's wrong again? People saying EQ2 is dying, slowing down, etc, have NOTHING to back it up.
EQ2 is actually gaining people all the time. People don't quit EQ2. LOTRO, WoW and VG players are joining. Wait for Kunark, even more people will play.
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also... Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has... Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard) Cheers!
I'd doubt it even had that tbh.
It's healthy. What's wrong again? People saying EQ2 is dying, slowing down, etc, have NOTHING to back it up.
EQ2 is actually gaining people all the time. People don't quit EQ2. LOTRO, WoW and VG players are joining. Wait for Kunark, even more people will play.
Ok...seems this is the closest you will get for numbers...
So 182k...(this is based off of box sales and private data gathered...which is not perfect...as SOE does not release these)
100k is a profitable MMO...
What is interesting is the fluctuations also...note how last year (when EoF was released) an upsurge of users took place..
But, then over the summer, we see a slowdown of users...including a big dip in April...which seems to coincide with the release of a new MMO (can we say LOTRO)....but, then notice an upswing near the end...must be people leaving some MMO's and getting ready for the RoK expansion...
Well anyone have the subscription numbers for EQ2?
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also...
Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has...
Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard)
Cheers!
I'd doubt it even had that tbh.
It's healthy. What's wrong again? People saying EQ2 is dying, slowing down, etc, have NOTHING to back it up.
EQ2 is actually gaining people all the time. People don't quit EQ2. LOTRO, WoW and VG players are joining. Wait for Kunark, even more people will play.
Youve proved my point perfectly,as i knew you or openedge1 would.
Of course I have no idea what the numbers are.Youve immediately shot me down and accused me of having nothing to back it up with,and then went on to say "eq2 is gaining people all the time" "lotro,wow and vanguard players are joining". Can you back this up?Perhaps show us the numbers of eq2 gaining all the time as you put it?
Actually with the recent pushbacks of AoC, WAR and cancellation of Gods and Heroes, EQ2 is sitting prety for a resurgence with this new expansion coming in November.
Youve proved my point perfectly,as i knew you or openedge1 would.
Of course I have no idea what the numbers are.Youve immediately shot me down and accused me of having nothing to back it up with,and then went on to say "eq2 is gaining people all the time" "lotro,wow and vanguard players are joining". Can you back this up?Perhaps show us the numbers of eq2 gaining all the time as you put it?
Oops...guess you missed my last post as you were writing this...
Note the chart above...again no one has the numbers...but this is a good reflection of how the numbers go. I of course never said the game is successful...but, based on the chat channels, the forums (with many people asking questions about the mechanics of the game) and now the above charts...the game does ebb and flow...like any game should...
People get bored...go play something else, then come back...or people play a boring game (there are a few of those out now) and need something more, they come and join...
The expansion next month should also bring old players back...and new ones who have fond memories of the Kunark expansion from EQ1....
Also, I have not "shot you down"...but, just provided data...which I always try to do..I do not want to say anything unless I have something to back it up...and usually I will do it in more than one inane sentence...
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[I have not posted in such a long time, I notice the interface is different.]
(1) EQ 2 is alive and well.
(a) EQ 2 is more populated, on my server, than it is on my WoW server. [Yes. I play WoW, EQ 2, et. al.]
Shame though, this game seemed so much better then WoW.
(2) EQ 2 has more content, features, classes, and I would say "fun" than WoW.
(a) If you play, I am confident you will also include "community," inter alia, that are better in EQ 2.
I tried on 3 differant servers
(3) Did you try Antonia Bayle or Nagafen?
(a) I play on Antionia Bayle, and I assure you the community is more alive and fresh and new than any current WoW servers. [To my knowledge WoW has not released a new server since TBC, circa 6 months ago. However, EQ 2's Antonia Bayle feels fresh and new because of the masses of new players joining, many from WoW.]
any numbers to support this?
The 2 Euro English servers, (I cant talk about the german or french ones) are usually witha good population, easy to find groups but not crowed. EQ2 population is in a really good health.
[I have not posted in such a long time, I notice the interface is different.]
(1) EQ 2 is alive and well.
(a) EQ 2 is more populated, on my server, than it is on my WoW server. [Yes. I play WoW, EQ 2, et. al.]
Shame though, this game seemed so much better then WoW.
(2) EQ 2 has more content, features, classes, and I would say "fun" than WoW.
(a) If you play, I am confident you will also include "community," inter alia, that are better in EQ 2.
I tried on 3 differant servers
(3) Did you try Antonia Bayle or Nagafen?
(a) I play on Antionia Bayle, and I assure you the community is more alive and fresh and new than any current WoW servers. [To my knowledge WoW has not released a new server since TBC, circa 6 months ago. However, EQ 2's Antonia Bayle feels fresh and new because of the masses of new players joining, many from WoW.]
any numbers to support this?
Numbers aren't really necessary. There are a rather significant number of low-very low population WoW servers because they have far more than they need. It isn't exactly a stretch to come to the conclusion that a game, although less populated, will be more densely packed because there are far fewer servers present.
I was there when the whole AC2 Expansion thing happened. I played AC2 for over a year, then updates were reduced from monthly to bi-monthly. This was to allow dev time to work on the expansion. The expansion came out and it was a flop. It was poorly promoted/advertised and shortly after they announced AC2 would be no more. And I hit the cancel button on AC2 and decided not to purchase LotRO which I had been waiting for since it was Middle Earth Online. Sadly they continued to sell the expansion after the shutting down of the servers had been anounced. AC2 was never doing "just fine" having played both EQ2 recently (1 week ago) and AC2 for a year up till it was announced it was to close down. I can tell you there is no comparison at all. AC2 had 600 people at prime time on two servers. EQ2 has 22 servers or so and I'm sure they get at least 600 at prime time at least.
Well, you kind of missed the point.
My point was that judging a game's health solely on it's current expansion pack status and quantity isn't the most wise way of going about things. That's all. You analyzed my statement a bit too deeply.
But, you also discussing one expansion...vs...FOUR...AC2 is the worst example you could have used...
If EQ2 was doing so badly, would they be ready to release a fourth expansion? Why do that if they were dying? This is not your first expansion in hopes it will bring in more players...it is an expansion to continue growing players...there is a HUGE difference..
We can judge EQ2's health on this latest expansion also due to the fact that with expansion 3 (The FAE), Sony saw growth due to it's popularity...so, yes, we can gauge health here..
Cheers!
You are stating examples of either long dead games (AC2) or a game SO old, that they have already made back their money and then some, that any release is just to thank the fans who stuck it out for so long..*sigh*
The statement wasn't even directed really at EQ2, it was mostly a general statement. And, yes, you can have plenty of expansions made with a declining player base, since the first one may not necessarily bring in the target amount of players.
UO after EA's takeover, for example. Then there's the late expansions for the original EQ.
The point I was trying to make was that a statement, taken by itself, that a game with 4 expansions must be doing just fine, is a bit misleading. That's all. Everyone is over-thinking my comment and taking it as a jab at the game. It wasn't. I was just pointing out a bit of interesting logic, that when taken by itself, can be quite misleading.
I simply used AC2 as an example because it was the most blatant and well-known failure of an expansion pack launch released.
But, you may be right...there may be a declining user base...but, the fact remains, each time an expansion for EQ2 is released, they also see growth again...based on statements from various sources (sales of boxes and scrips)...so yes, we can still gauge health, and growth on this fact...
We understand also, your not taking a jab at the game, but at my comment...so, as well, I will be able to enforce my claim based on that comment ...
If the game was "DEAD" as politely put here by the OP, then why release an expansion...but, I did not disagree to dying...But, really, why kill something that still brings in cash to SOE...
Cheers!
I left the game in jan 07, im coming back after my long futile escapade to find something better, this however is what i believe the issue may be.
people are active, they go out and do things, they dont wait around in the cities, not to mention different players hang around different parts of the cities. with the EoF, alot of people are using that area's city or cities i guess now. Since you didnt specify the city you tried starting out of, or the servers, no real evaluation of your problem can be given.This game is Sony's main mmo title, i doubt it will die unless by the hands of an EQ3(hypothetical concept, don't read into it).
as for the comment on blizzard releasing 1 expansion in the time it took sony to do 4, I know you were looking to point at quality, but come on, seriously. I used to work for Cendent Corp. who owned blizzard, they have always been slow about releasing anything. The company is not as old or well funded as Sony, just check its history. Don't get me wrong, Blizzard is an outstanding company, though i thought WoW was below their standards, but blizzard is in the midst of the older giants, and thus i won't claim that the one expansion took so long cause they were slackers.
People should realize that this isn't a game where all the population of the server stands sitting on their backsides in one of the 2 cities of the world. There are 4 major cities in Norrath and people only go there to either craft or visit the broker. Nobody spends their ingame time spaming channels with rubish and looking bored in the auction house, or the bank (several in each town in eq2), people only go to a city to do something.
Its an old and established community, tough many new players join every day, most popular areas are the new ones, Neriak and Kelethin, where its normal to find loads of people and lots on trial.
The population of EQ2 is rather large, keep in mind the different zones, and majority of the playerbase is mid to high level by this point...
Also, it has a bunch of major cities, the game is far far far from dead.
I don't think the population of 182k for EQ2 is accurate. If you would tell where you got the info I might believe it. As for running around and not seeing people, this may be true at some times of the day, but most of the servers are plenty stocked.
Someone twisted my arm and I went on WoW for a few days on a free trial (basically to appease him). It was 3 hours before I saw another name besides my friend. Every game after a while has that lull in the lower ranks. Thats why it's generally easier. The next day I got a lot of attention from the gold sellers inviting me to group so they could spam.
"This sounds like a troll post by the OP."
Yup, asking a question=troll post
"The game is fine and empty"
Nice typo
" Plenty of people are playing"
If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I went to 3 differant servers and the cities were empty. That's why I asked if there are people playing.
"THanks for the feedback, but you don't bring anything to the table"
Are you this retarded? Since when is a question feedback? since when is a question supposed to bring something to the "table"?
You're the troll here.
edited my post. And whatever dude
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Can't add much more than what has been said already but to point out that, in some ways, EQ2 is simply a bit different than many MMORPG's out there. There is simply so much to do aside from questing for loot that you won't find people standing around the cities. There is no need to promote your auctions via spam ala WOW, although I have seen it done, due to the manner in which the broker is set up. There is really no need to congregate around the few mailboxs (again, ala WOW) because there are a bunch of them in the world.
My suggestion is to start a new character. Try a fae (one of the new races where people are still experimenting with) and give some of the servers suggested a try. Even on my server (Lucan - not the most populated) I can find people to talk to, group with, interact with and enjoy. Look for a good guild, there are many advertising for members. Just hanging around the city is not going to provide you with an idea of what the game has to offer.
Sometimes, ya get back what ya put in.
Good luck and enjoy the game!
Great point.
[Prise].
The game is massive, and many players are in 1) instanced dungeons, 2) instanced homes, and 3) instanced guild halls. People can participate in the broker while in their homes, and they can also develop their profession skills while in a home.
The community is remarkably vibrant, helpful, and friendly. It is also incredibly healthful considering how 1) large the world is and 2) how many are in instances. I know people that spend the most part of the day in their home developing trade skills. As I said, my EQ 2 server is more healthful, friendly, populated, and out-going than my WoW server. [I am going to cancel WoW again; every time I sign-up I regret it in a day.]
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
I think that is outstanding. I do not need to play a game with 5 million Asians (so many play WoW because it is grindy and the system requirements are so low) to consider it a "healthful population."
I do not speak Mandarin Chinese. I sold my WoW account to a Thai. I do not speak Thai, but I know many represent a substantial portion of that population.
You have so many bots and gold-sellers in WoW that I wonder how many are flesh-and-blood Americans. [here is a flesh-and-blood American but he does not play: he uses "bots" www.youtube.com/watch
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
I think that is outstanding. I do not need to play a game with 5 million Asians (so many play WoW because it is grindy and the system requirements are so low) to consider it a "healthful population."
I do not speak Mandarin Chinese. I sold my WoW account to a Thai. I do not speak Thai, but I know many represent a substantial portion of that population.
You have so many bots and gold-sellers in WoW that I wonder how many are flesh-and-blood Americans. [here is a flesh-and-blood American but he does not play: he uses "bots" www.youtube.com/watch
Im not saying its a bad thing, im just pointing out that EQ2 has had it top , and its now slowly on its way down, cuz it had have dubbel the size of subs.
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also...
Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has...
Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard)
Cheers!
EQ2 dead ? LOL. Last night i played and ALL the servers but the trading one we're RED full.
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The main cities are not the best places to get a feel for the population. I still reside in my starter apartment in Willow Wood, so other than picking up writs on occasion, I have no reason to go to the city. And even Willow Wood I only return to at the end of my play time to put items up for sale.
Explore and enjoy the world and you'll start running into the other players. Also, the upcoming expansion would be a great time to start a new character as there will likely be many others trying out the new Sarnak race and area. Have fun!
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also...
Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has...
Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard)
Cheers!
I'd doubt it even had that tbh.
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also...
Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has...
Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard)
Cheers!
I'd doubt it even had that tbh.
It's healthy. What's wrong again? People saying EQ2 is dying, slowing down, etc, have NOTHING to back it up.EQ2 is actually gaining people all the time. People don't quit EQ2. LOTRO, WoW and VG players are joining. Wait for Kunark, even more people will play.
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I'd doubt it even had that tbh.
It's healthy. What's wrong again? People saying EQ2 is dying, slowing down, etc, have NOTHING to back it up.EQ2 is actually gaining people all the time. People don't quit EQ2. LOTRO, WoW and VG players are joining. Wait for Kunark, even more people will play.
Ok...seems this is the closest you will get for numbers...http://mmogdata.voig.com/
So 182k...(this is based off of box sales and private data gathered...which is not perfect...as SOE does not release these)
100k is a profitable MMO...
What is interesting is the fluctuations also...note how last year (when EoF was released) an upsurge of users took place..
But, then over the summer, we see a slowdown of users...including a big dip in April...which seems to coincide with the release of a new MMO (can we say LOTRO)....but, then notice an upswing near the end...must be people leaving some MMO's and getting ready for the RoK expansion...
This game is gonna get real busy real soon!
Cheers!
Estimates place EQ2 at approximately 182k subs as of March '07.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that EQ2 is absolutely massive as a world, and in addition to that; many players are at the level cap by now, so the higher level areas are probably populated.
Try playing on a medium or heavy load server, as suggested earlier.
Thats correct subs are around 190k, wich is not as great as it has been...
Yea..I can pull numbers out of my butt also...
Please show me where you read there are 190k subs for EQ2...just like there are 800k subs for LOTRO...some wild supposition from many people to how many subs any game has...
Really...lets see the real scoop..I want it written...and not by the company that is in question (i.e: Turbine...SOE...Blizzard)
Cheers!
I'd doubt it even had that tbh.
It's healthy. What's wrong again? People saying EQ2 is dying, slowing down, etc, have NOTHING to back it up.EQ2 is actually gaining people all the time. People don't quit EQ2. LOTRO, WoW and VG players are joining. Wait for Kunark, even more people will play.
Youve proved my point perfectly,as i knew you or openedge1 would.
Of course I have no idea what the numbers are.Youve immediately shot me down and accused me of having nothing to back it up with,and then went on to say "eq2 is gaining people all the time" "lotro,wow and vanguard players are joining". Can you back this up?Perhaps show us the numbers of eq2 gaining all the time as you put it?
Actually with the recent pushbacks of AoC, WAR and cancellation of Gods and Heroes, EQ2 is sitting prety for a resurgence with this new expansion coming in November.
Note the chart above...again no one has the numbers...but this is a good reflection of how the numbers go. I of course never said the game is successful...but, based on the chat channels, the forums (with many people asking questions about the mechanics of the game) and now the above charts...the game does ebb and flow...like any game should...
People get bored...go play something else, then come back...or people play a boring game (there are a few of those out now) and need something more, they come and join...
The expansion next month should also bring old players back...and new ones who have fond memories of the Kunark expansion from EQ1....
Also, I have not "shot you down"...but, just provided data...which I always try to do..I do not want to say anything unless I have something to back it up...and usually I will do it in more than one inane sentence...
So, go read and enjoy..
Cheers!