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Lets start with this. What on earth makes you think that the military(Which is part of the government) will allow them to show what they do for them? Hmm? According to this: http://www.epicos.com/epicos/portal/media-type/html/role/user/page/default.psml/js_panename/Business+Directory+Article+View?articleid=11489&showfull=false they do work in related to Aerospace & Defense. Now its your word up against theirs.
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What the hell are you talking about? That website is just a public listing of companies that offer services related to a certain industry.
Yes its services in the Aerospace & Defense industry. They work for military projects and now what would fall under that category?
http://www.epicos.com/epicos/portal/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default.psml/js_panename/SubscribeNow
Anyone can list their company there. Just because a company is listed there doesn't mean they did work for anyone.
It's just a big database of thousands of companies offering services.
I can list a company there if I wanted too offering services. Does that mean I actually did work for anyone?? sure doesn't.
Yet it doesnt mean they didnt either. They said they did some work for the government and here is a site where greece is listed as country who uses this. Apparently there is more to registering your company from what they said as I was reading but the specific process I'm unsure about.
"Access to Epicos.com can be obtained only through membership. If you wish to become a member, you will have to apply by filling-in the information contained in the form.
Your application will be processed and further membership details will be sent to you by e-mail.
The information submitted to the site will be treated as strictly confidential.
Please read our Privacy Policy."
Go ahed wiz kid: list "lancehead1 SA"
in epicos.com and you will have me convinced 4evaaaaaa.
Wrong. Anyone can get listed even for free. They take your credit card number after filling out the first form if you want a detailed listing. Pay the fee you get listed in the database just like anyone else. Or theres a free option...
It's just a big generic get listed in our database site and you might get work. The site is nothing special. There are no special prerequisites to getting listed.
"I would like to be listed in the Epicos A&D Business Directory. How can I do that and what is the charge?
A basic listing is free of charge. You also have the option of creating a detailed business profile that is priced between 700-1400 EUR depending on the level of detail."
Unfortuneatly lance all that says is that you can pay for a premium or get a basic(free) listing. It says nothing about automatically being listed. Like I said they have some sort of process but the specficis I'm not sure.
There is no special process or prerequisite to being listed. If there was then they would outline what it is there.
or if you can't
STFU
I think they're looking for people with skills that aren't too common. They want a senior Java programmer. Why the hell would you want a Java programmer for an MMORPG? Jeez, that's a hell of a useless language for 3D game development, not to mention how slow it goes for just about everything else.
But hey, it's their design. If they can get Java to do something amazing, more power to them.
I still can't help but wonder why they aren't using C# instead.
I think they're looking for people with skills that aren't too common. They want a senior Java programmer. Why the hell would you want a Java programmer for an MMORPG? Jeez, that's a hell of a useless language for 3D game development, not to mention how slow it goes for just about everything else.
But hey, it's their design. If they can get Java to do something amazing, more power to them.
I still can't help but wonder why they aren't using C# instead.
Well I don't believe C++ and C# would work well together and from what i've heard Java isnt as useless as you state. I mean I hear that C# is praticly useless for game development.
Haha lance made an account to talk smack about Darkfall. Someone is feeling threatened.
hi i did a quick search on google and look what i found
http://www.asdsource.com/source_detail_small/2882/Aventurine_SA.htm
it clearly lists
Aventurine S.A.
Company information
C4iS, GIS, HelNav Wargames Center, software and related services.
So there u go. Also they recently got a loan for 27.5 million so i dont think there doing to bad financially
it clearly lists
MMORPG Technologies
Company information
We offer High-Tech solutions to Government organisations in the fields of Aerospace , Military and Homeland security.
Products & Services
-Aircraft parts (Aviation)
-Command and Control Systems and Components (C4I) (Defence)
-General Aviation (Aviation)
-Simulators (Aviation)
http://www.asdsource.com/source_detail_sm.asp?ID=10976
contact me. i'll build you a space shuttle for real cheap! We also have a special on our new Anti Asteroid Defence system purchased by the Grand Sultan of Mongolia.
Hey my company now does work in the Aerospace, Space, Defence, Aviation industries too just like Aventurine! I mean thats 100% proof right?
You can list a company as offering / doing anything you want on the internet. Just because you found some listing somewhere on the net on some public database directory doesn't mean jack shit.
and no they didn't get a loan for 27 million.. they tried putting up convertible bonds for sale.. probably to try and raise money for their sinking tub..
amazing how many gullible people there are on the internet. some of you peoples seriously need a wake up call.
I'll admit that you were right about that ad but if they aren't working for the military why would they go to a convention for national defence to exhibit if they had nothing to show?
http://defendoryinternational.gr/list_2006.htm
Why did they show up at the E3 Expo show in 2006 and not display anything there?
They just stood around an empty booth with a Darkfall poster hanging behind them.
What makes you think that they didn't do the same thing there?
You will trick and deceive anyone to justify your hate on Darkfall!!
You used to be a genuine DF troll, but now you became a registered liar and a criminal by posting false information on a commercial database.
I'm sure that ASD people have your ID and they will probably go after you for this attempt to discredit their site and this forum.
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You are not that smart now…Are you? You stepped into a trap and you are proud about that!!
Well done lance!!! I’m sure that ASD people will contact you for that space shuttle of yours- and you know that you don’t want to mesh with defense people…
"WoW and EQ2 aren't as appreciated as they could be"
- I think 10 million+ people between the two is appreciation enough
"FIRST start off building amazing looking cinematic trailers that take months and months to finish then by the time they get to the actual game they clearly just don't have enough time to get it the way the want"
- Actually, most companies have an entire department of CG people devoted to creating this trailers that really don't have much to do with the actual game itself, Adventurine probably doesn't have a CG person honestly
"As for other 'MMORPGs they dont' even have half of the features that are being promised by Adventurine"
- Have you learned anything from the history of MMORPGs? No game has been released with all the features "promised at release", Darkfall will be no different, ESPECIALLY because they have such a small team
"Heck they're not even skill based or twitch based so why the heck is everyone who is playing the mainstream crap going to come here?"
-I agree, why the heck will anyone playing mainstream titles come to Darkfall? I mean, twitch based / skill based games have done SO well in comparison to class based non-twitch titles... *cough*
"The arguements from the vaporware trolls are really starting to lack here."
- Did you read what you wrote?
there lacking because it the same crap rehashed over and over again
I'd actually just put that elitexion but then the trolls just go ahead and ignore it, it's a lot harder for them to try and reply with one line of text to an entire load of paragraphs without making themselves look like idiots, don't people ever think that the reason 8 million or so players aren't playing the game just because theirs nothing else to play or that they're staying because of their friends rather than actually liking the game itself? I think we should wait and see what happens when some real MMORPGs come out before we start bragging about a tiny percentage of the human population being on one game.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Which would mean in fact that they did show something there as well if were going by your logic. Now if you don't think so come up with a logical excuse.
give it up Questionable...
Nothing to say against this? Perhaps even you see it now as reluctant as you may be.
See what? That they showed some lone darkfall fanboy something in a Hotel room while completely missing the entire point of going to a PUBLIC EXPO SHOW?
Keep grasping for those straws... or you can always come over to the side of reason for a change...
If you consider that the side of reason than I believe you should really consider what "reason" is if you believe that E3=Nation-wide convention of National Defense of Land, Sea, and Air because that is your reason and I would hope no one would think something along the lines of that.