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Im a little confused about the SWG dissin

So having bought and played the game the first day it came out, i quit after about 1 month or 2. The game was just way too glitchy and my computer couldnt handle the graphics, but I never had any real complaints, it really offered a lot as far as MMOs go.

So I re-installed the game about 2 weeks ago (since I have a station pass) and started playing with a friend. We have just been zoomin through tons of well put together missions, going into outer space and doing pretty cool space combat and all kinds of fun stuff, joining the imperials was really fun to because all over the place with NPCs and players it feels like the rebels vs. the imperials...really gets you into that "we are fighting over the galaxy mood"

All over the place I see really really cool pets, tons of cool mounts, and really amazing player run cities...tons of planets with lots and lots of area on each, and a lot more.

As I would prefer a skill based game over lvl based, SWG is quite good right now and im glad im playing again, lots of fun and it really offers a lot MMO wise......so I would say to anyone wanting to try out the new game to give it a go! im glad I did

I play all ghame

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  • EkibiogamiEkibiogami Member UncommonPosts: 2,154

    Good for you, Dont let the SOE hatters Ruin your fun damnit....

    I Tryed SWG Post NGE. Couldent stand it. But if it fits your ticket than Please Enjoy it.

    Im Tired of all the SOE haters Running in to every fourm/Post saying soe is the Devil.

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  • SlangerSlanger Member UncommonPosts: 280

    SOE is the DEVIL!!! How dare you enjoy your self in one of their games... If you enjoy it whoot! Good for you! I played from launch and tried it about a month ago and it I simply could not get into it with all the jedi's running around. But if is what you're looking for;

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  • infrared1infrared1 Member UncommonPosts: 440

    I'm also glad to hear you are enjoying youself in the game. Unfortunately I can't anymore. The well of content has run dry and theres not enough going on to keep me playing. I hate SoE for what they did to the game but that doesn't mean you do. If you are having fun and ejoying it, thats all that matters. I do however feel that you should keep in mind SOME of the things vets discuss, and be causious.

  • pluzoidpluzoid Member Posts: 152

    This game is a mess, always has been, always will be, there lags ridiculous, bugs galorie after 3 years in the running. They got rid of the best system for a VERY poorly implemented version of WoW.

    SOE is the type of company that would only keep swg going because the "name" might draw poor fans in.

    The game's dead, and rightly deserves it, I just wish those idiots at Lucrasarts would pass over the licience to a company  that care more about game intergreting rather than money.

    All game companies wanna make money, doesnt mean they have to produce this slop!

  • DreadlichDreadlich Member UncommonPosts: 597

    Don't worry about it. If you're having fun, then leave these forums and never look back. Their hatred is beyond reason at this point. Just enjoy the game and forget about anything said here.

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  • Player_420Player_420 Member Posts: 686

    for sure...see im just a pretty hardcore player, and having played lots and lots and lots of MMOs this game is pretty fun. If the content runs dry then I can switch, but at least SWGoffers a lot more then most.

    I play all ghame

  • Player_420Player_420 Member Posts: 686

    Also its a really good deal....I have my station pass and just basically got the gamefor free. Just downloaded, and I have expansions and full access which isnt bad. Its a good semi-free deal

    I play all ghame

  • Player_420Player_420 Member Posts: 686

    ahh and 1 more thing....

    Just to think about, I remember getting to roll a jedi was almost impossible before, and I liked that idea....but one of the cool things about start wars is jedis...and I gotta admit they are fun to play in this game, fun fast paced.....

    But if people want this KOTR MMO (which prolly wont happen) so bad...I just have one little thought. In KOTR dont you think there would be even more Jedis running around? And also how will it really work when KOTR is essentially a single player RPG, the style of KOTR is not rly MMO style and I dont think they would take the risk of trying to translate it.

    Would I buy the KOTR MMO? Hell yeah, but I think Bethesdas 300mil MMO will be better! lol not dissing either one, just something to think about

    I play all ghame

  • miffywiffymiffywiffy Member Posts: 245

    Well Jedi wern't in the game 1 or 2 months after launch.

  • DreadlichDreadlich Member UncommonPosts: 597
    Originally posted by Player_420


    ahh and 1 more thing....
    Just to think about, I remember getting to roll a jedi was almost impossible before, and I liked that idea....but one of the cool things about start wars is jedis...and I gotta admit they are fun to play in this game, fun fast paced.....
    But if people want this KOTR MMO (which prolly wont happen) so bad...I just have one little thought. In KOTR dont you think there would be even more Jedis running around? And also how will it really work when KOTR is essentially a single player RPG, the style of KOTR is not rly MMO style and I dont think they would take the risk of trying to translate it.
    Would I buy the KOTR MMO? Hell yeah, but I think Bethesdas 300mil MMO will be better! lol not dissing either one, just something to think about

    Doesn't really hold water...   WoW came from an RTS. At least KOTOR is in roughly the same genre. And LOTRO was a book.

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  • LaterisLateris Member UncommonPosts: 1,847

    Ok you sound like a SOE worker bee-hmmm maybe Pex?

  • oronisioronisi Member Posts: 284

    Originally posted by Player_420


    So having bought and played the game the first day it came out, i quit after about 1 month or 2. The game was just way too glitchy and my computer couldnt handle the graphics, but I never had any real complaints, it really offered a lot as far as MMOs go.
    So I re-installed the game about 2 weeks ago (since I have a station pass) and started playing with a friend. We have just been zoomin through tons of well put together missions, going into outer space and doing pretty cool space combat and all kinds of fun stuff, joining the imperials was really fun to because all over the place with NPCs and players it feels like the rebels vs. the imperials...really gets you into that "we are fighting over the galaxy mood"
    All over the place I see really really cool pets, tons of cool mounts, and really amazing player run cities...tons of planets with lots and lots of area on each, and a lot more.
    As I would prefer a skill based game over lvl based, SWG is quite good right now and im glad im playing again, lots of fun and it really offers a lot MMO wise......so I would say to anyone wanting to try out the new game to give it a go! im glad I did
    What you have to realize is that SWG was completely rebuilt....or at least, rebuilt.  It's not really complete.  They redid the starting character experience, so you are currently playing the best part of the game.  They made that first 30 or so levels fun.  The problem is, there is only one quest line for all characters with no deviations or side quests.  Also, it ends after about 30 levels, so then you are SOL.

    But I do have to hand it to the SWG dev team and the NGE....the newb experience is much improved over the pre-cu newb experience.  Too bad you are only a newb for a little bit.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    Originally posted by Player_420


    So having bought and played the game the first day it came out, i quit after about 1 month or 2. The game was just way too glitchy and my computer couldnt handle the graphics, but I never had any real complaints, it really offered a lot as far as MMOs go.
    So I re-installed the game about 2 weeks ago (since I have a station pass) and started playing with a friend. We have just been zoomin through tons of well put together missions, going into outer space and doing pretty cool space combat and all kinds of fun stuff, joining the imperials was really fun to because all over the place with NPCs and players it feels like the rebels vs. the imperials...really gets you into that "we are fighting over the galaxy mood"
    All over the place I see really really cool pets, tons of cool mounts, and really amazing player run cities...tons of planets with lots and lots of area on each, and a lot more.
    As I would prefer a skill based game over lvl based, SWG is quite good right now and im glad im playing again, lots of fun and it really offers a lot MMO wise......so I would say to anyone wanting to try out the new game to give it a go! im glad I did

    I will make it simple. You don’t understand the "Dissin" because you didn’t invest countless hours, and ETC.. over a three year period just to have the entire system yanked out from under you with no warning.

     A lot of people enjoyed the original game...Bugs can be fixed, systems can be tweaked.

    They blaringly through out the very people that took tem to any measure of success they did enjoy...all for a new player base.

     

     

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  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    Player_420,

    I'm a little confused about your post. The title suggests that you're inquiring why there is "dissin", yet your post does not go into any details or asks why there are people upset about the current direction of SWG.

    Perhaps a better title for your post would be "My Advertisment for SWG".

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    Originally posted by Suvroc


    Player_420,
    I'm a little confused about your post. The title suggests that you're inquiring why there is "dissin", yet your post does not go into any details or asks why there are people upset about the current direction of SWG.
    Perhaps a better title for your post would be "My Advertisment for SWG".

    This is the same guy that things Vanguard can do no wrong, and LOTRO is a failure. FYI.

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  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth


     
    Originally posted by Suvroc


    Player_420,
    I'm a little confused about your post. The title suggests that you're inquiring why there is "dissin", yet your post does not go into any details or asks why there are people upset about the current direction of SWG.
    Perhaps a better title for your post would be "My Advertisment for SWG".

     

    This is the same guy that things Vanguard can do no wrong, and LOTRO is a failure. FYI.

    Well, the name Player_420 explains everything then.  : )

  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118

    I was sure this had to be a necro post from the depths of  some 2004 archive.  Imagine my shock and amusement to look up and see the date.   Different strokes and all that, I guess...  

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  • Player_420Player_420 Member Posts: 686

    hmm so endgame sucks? well if it does ill let ya know, im at lvl 35 right now so dont worry..im rpetty harsh on a game if the endgame sucks (think my LOTRO post)

    at least this game has nice player cities, pets, nice vehicles, space combat ect.

    I play all ghame

  • Player_420Player_420 Member Posts: 686

    Mr Blood I have admitted time and time again that Vanguard has serious problems, enough of that plz

    I play all ghame

  • ekicekic Member Posts: 163

    Glad you're having fun Player    I have seen a bunch of old timers come back the past few months and they are having a great time as well ;)

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  • skulyskuly Member UncommonPosts: 140

     

    Originally posted by Slanger


    SOE is the DEVIL!!! How dare you enjoy your self in one of their games... If you enjoy it whoot! Good for you! I played from launch and tried it about a month ago and it I simply could not get into it with all the jedi's running around. But if is what you're looking for;

    I know alot of people post all over the net about how they hate SOE but i'm pretty sure this is the first time i have no the net.... i've had SOE sucks discussions in  real life with my friends but i don't think i have said anything online about it.

     

    Personally i didn't like SWG before NGE... but before NGE i did play off and on I never played it hardcore 24/7 like i used to play Anarchy-online but  i found it a fun game to play casually.

    So I'm not extremely agnry about NGE because it took something awsome and turned it into shyt but more that it took something ok and turned it into shyt.

    What really upsets me is how SOE/Lucas arts say they are dedicated to SWG and care about the game.

    But they didn't stand by SWG they destroyed it and started over. Detroying it and starting over isn't standing by your product.



    If the game servers stay up as the population goes lower and lower will show that SOE will stand by what i like to call SWG2 I think they are willing to stick it out till the end and thats what upsets me why couldn't they just keep trying to improve what they had instead of destorying it and making a new game. When you make a game you are supposed to stand by the game and try to improve it,,,, totaly changing a game is not sticking by the game.. SOE basicaly gave up on SWG and remade it into what it is now SWG should be called SWG2.

    I don't trust SOE as a company now i don't care if i am missing out on a good product or not.. because if i get into any game they make and spend alot of time playing whats to stop them from totally changing the game a year or two down the line.... I have stuck with Anarchy-online for years now and while they do make changes (which all mmorpg's should do) to me they haven't completely changed the game into something else the core of the game is the same. So i keep going back to AO.

    I don't play wow i tried it but never really liked it, but i have heard people say they game has changed alot since TBC I don't know much about that but i'm sure it's not as big a change as the metamorphosis of what SWG is now. The only reason i even play SWG was because of the skill system i feel that was a big part of the game.. taking that away and disabling alot of other things isn't adding to or building on core gameplay like what other mmorpg developers do to improve their game.

    Even if i had liked NGE i can assure you i still would of backed away from SOE.

    Maybe it's just me but if your best friend totally screws you over big time, do you stand by him and just hope he doesn't do it again or do you tell him you screwed me over big time i can't trust you anymore and part ways"

    I can't support SOE/Lucas Art alowing "NGE" (New Game(yes) Enhancement (I wouldn't use that word)).

    So i can't support them at the very least they could of freaking kept pre-nge or even pre-cu and just had seperate devleoprs for game improvments to both the NGE game and Original.

    SOE is the DEVIL!!!


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  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    cool.  How long have you been playing it so far and how much longer do you think it can keep you interested?

    The majority of the dissent rises from the plethora of bold faced lies told by SOE, then there's the Wire Fraud committed on behlaf of the NGE; issued massive refunds to circumvent chages. 

    SOE is a terrible company who has no care for it's paying subscribers. 

    As a consumer, I expect to be treated with respect and dignity.  If I return to a place of business as a loyal customer I expect to be shown respect with a commitment to expand upon the products of interest.  SOE does not possess this.  The corporations only responsibility is to generate additional revenue at any expense, hence the NGE and the action of Wire Fraud. 

    If anyone doubts the case of SOE committing Wirefraud all you'll have to do is read the definition of it and re-examine the nge-incident:

    "intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both."

    also: "It is not necessary that the Government prove all of the details concerning the precise nature and purpose of the scheme; or that the material transmitted by wire was itself false or fraudulent; or that the alleged scheme actually succeeded in defrauding anyone; or that the use of interstate wire communications facilities was intended as the specific or exclusive means of accomplishing the alleged fraud."

  • GutboyGutboy Member Posts: 630

    Thats a whole lot of hate over 1 ingame item that caused the uproar, the "tamers neckless". The one item in that expansion that was "removed from game".

    So how is your lawsuit going now, I am sure in the last 2 years there has been some progress, ROFL.

  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088

    Current SWG with the newest chapters offers the most complete set of features of any actual MMO imo. Complex crafting (compared with other games anyway), quests for the ppl that like them, playercities, great implemented housing system, spacecombat, awesome petsystem ....and incredibly bugged pve combatmechanics.

    I just hate PVE in that game. The amount of features would get a 9 of me, but PVE combat mechanics a 4. Still get the shivers thinking about the 'cant see target' msges in spikey terrain when a mob sets a foot behind a pebble. Grrrr. That and the poor collision detection are the last things you would like to experience in so-called hybrid fps combatmechanics. Not to mention mob warping towards your character and even stand inside of you! All 4 of them! *shivers* Need a drink..

  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    Originally posted by Gutboy


    Thats a whole lot of hate over 1 ingame item that caused the uproar, the "tamers neckless". The one item in that expansion that was "removed from game".
    So how is your lawsuit going now, I am sure in the last 2 years there has been some progress, ROFL.
    You must be the target audience of the nge.  Sorry you're unable to comprehend the jest of the issue. 

    Any other appropriate responce to Gutboy would end up being a flame. 

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