In AV you may see liek 25-30 people at a time other than the start.
Wow is an older game and WAr is goign to be harder on systems.
2gbs of ram is not alot at all 8 is alot , 2 is very little.
I atm use 1 gb of ram to play wow, it runs well, however, it would run better with 2 and hopefully you will want 3-4 gb of ram for WAR becuase that means its graphics are ok or there a ton of allies and enemies on your screen at once. Hipp hipp hooray for massive open world pvp.
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personally now days (especially with Vista) i never have less than 2 gb of ram. its so cheap and its good for increasing performance (when i first played WoW i was on 512mb Ram then i upped that to 2gb and cities never lagged again)
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Asus Striker Extreme WD 150G Raptor Drive (10,000rpm) 2.66 Dual Core CPU NVGA GeForce 8800Ultra (Maybe two in SLI) Thermaltake Toughpower 1000W PSU 8 (Yes 8!) Gigs of XMS2 Corsair DDR2 800 (PC26400) "why you need 8 gigs of Ram?"
I know it's overkill, but I want to make sure that if I have problems.. it's either my connection or the server. I have Cox Powerboost as well.. so I don't anticipate any problems.
Das, I'm not trying to be funny about this but if I were you, I would wait until the game specs were released and comments from the developers on if Warhammer's coding will support Quadcore processors "I'm hoping it will".
Currently, the only game that I am aware of that will take advantage of dx10 graphic cards and dual/quadcore processors is Age of Conan. If I were you, I would wait before spending all that money on a system of that magnitude "unless you know something the rest of us don't?".
I'm not just buying the system for WAR. But, I do anticipate that WAR will occupy the majority of my time. I wouldn't mind playing Crysys.. Bioshock, UT3.. games like that.. and I want to run them well. I want to run WAR at maximum settings as well, with many people on the screen at once.
I shouldn't need to upgrade for quite a while when I'm done as well. That is a deciding factor. So, it really doesn't have much to do with WAR's game specs.. I can pretty much tell you what they are anyways.. they'll probably be very comparable to LOTRO.
Plus, it would be nice to have my pc boot up in 5 seconds.. heh
LoL more money than common sence either that or mommy and daddy have more money and than common sence. In the end the thing that is going to suffer the most in a large scale battle is your video card if you do not have enough horsepower in your video card to render all those avatars, shade them ect you are going to get graphics lag, it has nothing to do with your connection and very little to do with the amount of RAM you have provided you have at least 1-2 gigs. That being said anyone that has been to a castle seige in Lineage 2 knows all about this kind of lag being that there are anywhere from 200 to 500+ people at a seige and with a 8800gts 640 i can run seiges at high settings and max draw distance (although not after the latest expansion that just came out they revamped the graphics engine) unless you are doing rendering or some other task that requires every bit of horsepower your machine has 2 ultras is retarted SLI and crossfire are both rediculous seeing that most games are not programmed to take advantage of SLI or Crossfire in the first place that and oyu are getting about a card and a half of processing power when it is programmed for it even at 16x on both slots. So when it comes to building a great gaming system Video card, RAM, Processor, in that order... and stay away from ATI not only do their drivers suck when is the last time you saw a game that was not optimized for an Nvidia card?
lol, you obviously do not understand the concept of virtual and physical memory.
Suggestion: Take an IT course at your local college.
I have a 127GB of ram. I need a new Video Card and i would like to upgrade my proc. Any ideas of waht would be suitable? Im not looking to spend more then a 100 dollors
Originally posted by TraceGaleIII I have a 127GB of ram. I need a new Video Card and i would like to upgrade my proc. Any ideas of waht would be suitable? Im not looking to spend more then a 100 dollors
127GB ram..? I hope you mean memory and not ram otherwise you must be haxxing.
Actually ...lol...I messed up i have 106g of disk space on my comp i have somewhere around the same number of beta ticks for WAR is ram (KB) about 50-70 higher.So computer is greatly in need of upgrading for the new gen MMO's. I would like to have 3gb just to be safe but ill settle for 2.
Was looking at some Vid cards and saw a few Nvidia cards for like 60 bucks but around where i live Nvidia cards are in the 100's and i have a athleon processor.
Hello, Since I can play mmorpg's like WoW on full graphical settings and newer ones like Lotro on a mixture of highest and some medium settings, I'm not thinking about upgrading my CPU or graphics card. However, I am concerned about 1 thing. The RvR. Does this mean that the battles will consist out of tons of players? Unlike a 10 vs 10 battleground in WoW for example. I'm guessing RAM is the most important thing is huge fights then? Will 1GB be enough? Don't mind tuning a few settings down, but I have some bad experiences with WoW's AV with 512 ram on my older pc Kon p.s i know i know, official req's are released yet
I'll be running the game on 2GB & the reason for this is i will feel comfortable that ill have smoother game play than running it on 1GB. Thats mt reason Pure & Simple .......
Flame & rant all you like. My older system ( 5 years old now ) which played WoW with 512 of corsair mem was not enough so i added another 512 to make a gig & it ran much better. Btw ram is just one part of your P.C there are the other main factors CPU, GC, Motherboard & PSU make sure you keep un cool
I think some of you guys are just in outer space, computer equipment snobs AND have no flipping clue about something other than IT; business. They won't release a game that requires more than 2 Gb to get moderate (ie., medium) performance merely because not a whole heck of a lot of systems come with more than that by release time. Any savvy business person knows to release a product that can be used on the computers that the consumers have NOW. You don't get second chances 6~12 months later when equipment pricing goes down. Look at WoW; it worked at nice settings on fairly common computer gamers' rigs when it was released. Yes, it is smart to have higher levels of detail for staying power, but it has to run pretty good with what they have now. If you have 1Gb, my guess is you will need to keep the settings down pretty low, but ultimately those huge sieges are gonna slow due to server load as well, no matter how many cool, color coded and glow-in-the-dark extra parts you have on your PC.
You can buy a desktop with a monitor and a 512 mb graphics card / 2 gb of ram and a 32 bit windows OS for around $800 these days. That being said, if you can't even afford that, you will be stuck playing games at 5-20 FPS like I do.
I think some of you guys are just in outer space, computer equipment snobs AND have no flipping clue about something other than IT; business. They won't release a game that requires more than 2 Gb to get moderate (ie., medium) performance merely because not a whole heck of a lot of systems come with more than that by release time. Any savvy business person knows to release a product that can be used on the computers that the consumers have NOW. You don't get second chances 6~12 months later when equipment pricing goes down. Look at WoW; it worked at nice settings on fairly common computer gamers' rigs when it was released. Yes, it is smart to have higher levels of detail for staying power, but it has to run pretty good with what they have now. If you have 1Gb, my guess is you will need to keep the settings down pretty low, but ultimately those huge sieges are gonna slow due to server load as well, no matter how many cool, color coded and glow-in-the-dark extra parts you have on your PC.
Why are people constantly using WoW as a gauge. WoW's graphic engine is like 7 years old. It was being developed back in 2000-2001. How in-the-name-of-the-easter-bunny can you think that you would need ANY graphic power to run that game, or even compare it to newer games (i.e. WAR). I think I could honestly run WoW from a cell phone.
I've been playin' games for years, even attended / competed in some gaming events (CPL, SMD, QuakeCon, etc), and let me tell you, you would WANT to have an advantage over others when it comes to performance, or at least not struggle. At those events, they normally give you top-end machines to use. With MMO's however, I find that more of ANYTHING (RAM, proc power, vid card memory) is always a bonus, it can't be BAD.
Hello, Since I can play mmorpg's like WoW on full graphical settings and newer ones like Lotro on a mixture of highest and some medium settings, I'm not thinking about upgrading my CPU or graphics card. However, I am concerned about 1 thing. The RvR. Does this mean that the battles will consist out of tons of players? Unlike a 10 vs 10 battleground in WoW for example. I'm guessing RAM is the most important thing is huge fights then? Will 1GB be enough? Don't mind tuning a few settings down, but I have some bad experiences with WoW's AV with 512 ram on my older pc Kon p.s i know i know, official req's are released yet
Depends on the RAM, if its DDR2 then I would say 1gig might be enough. However in this day and age I think 2gigs of DDR2 would be the way to go. It's not really that expensive check out Newegg.com and see what they are going for.
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I think some of you guys are just in outer space, computer equipment snobs AND have no flipping clue about something other than IT; business. They won't release a game that requires more than 2 Gb to get moderate (ie., medium) performance merely because not a whole heck of a lot of systems come with more than that by release time. Any savvy business person knows to release a product that can be used on the computers that the consumers have NOW. You don't get second chances 6~12 months later when equipment pricing goes down. Look at WoW; it worked at nice settings on fairly common computer gamers' rigs when it was released. Yes, it is smart to have higher levels of detail for staying power, but it has to run pretty good with what they have now. If you have 1Gb, my guess is you will need to keep the settings down pretty low, but ultimately those huge sieges are gonna slow due to server load as well, no matter how many cool, color coded and glow-in-the-dark extra parts you have on your PC.
Why are people constantly using WoW as a gauge. WoW's graphic engine is like 7 years old. It was being developed back in 2000-2001. How in-the-name-of-the-easter-bunny can you think that you would need ANY graphic power to run that game, or even compare it to newer games (i.e. WAR). I think I could honestly run WoW from a cell phone.
I've been playin' games for years, even attended / competed in some gaming events (CPL, SMD, QuakeCon, etc), and let me tell you, you would WANT to have an advantage over others when it comes to performance, or at least not struggle. At those events, they normally give you top-end machines to use. With MMO's however, I find that more of ANYTHING (RAM, proc power, vid card memory) is always a bonus, it can't be BAD.
From screenshots and videos we have seen, I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that Dwarfs/elves in War have a higher amount of polys then those in WoW.
From all the environment art, and characters in the game I've seen on screens from beta, I'd be surprised if you need anything more then a geforce 6 to run the game at max settings.
As per ram, 2 gigs on XP will suffice, on vista(32) cant have more then 3 anyhow.
300vs300 in DAOC really?! damn nice.
EA bought Mythic after Mythic got WAR license. EA wants WoW numbers, or close to that. Low specs are part of WoW's success as we all know.
I think some of you guys are just in outer space, computer equipment snobs AND have no flipping clue about something other than IT; business. They won't release a game that requires more than 2 Gb to get moderate (ie., medium) performance merely because not a whole heck of a lot of systems come with more than that by release time. Any savvy business person knows to release a product that can be used on the computers that the consumers have NOW. You don't get second chances 6~12 months later when equipment pricing goes down. Look at WoW; it worked at nice settings on fairly common computer gamers' rigs when it was released. Yes, it is smart to have higher levels of detail for staying power, but it has to run pretty good with what they have now. If you have 1Gb, my guess is you will need to keep the settings down pretty low, but ultimately those huge sieges are gonna slow due to server load as well, no matter how many cool, color coded and glow-in-the-dark extra parts you have on your PC.
Why are people constantly using WoW as a gauge. WoW's graphic engine is like 7 years old. It was being developed back in 2000-2001. How in-the-name-of-the-easter-bunny can you think that you would need ANY graphic power to run that game, or even compare it to newer games (i.e. WAR). I think I could honestly run WoW from a cell phone.
I've been playin' games for years, even attended / competed in some gaming events (CPL, SMD, QuakeCon, etc), and let me tell you, you would WANT to have an advantage over others when it comes to performance, or at least not struggle. At those events, they normally give you top-end machines to use. With MMO's however, I find that more of ANYTHING (RAM, proc power, vid card memory) is always a bonus, it can't be BAD.
From screenshots and videos we have seen, I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that Dwarfs/elves in War have a higher amount of polys then those in WoW.
From all the environment art, and characters in the game I've seen on screens from beta, I'd be surprised if you need anything more then a geforce 6 to run the game at max settings.
As per ram, 2 gigs on XP will suffice, on vista(32) cant have more then 3 anyhow.
300vs300 in DAOC really?! damn nice.
EA bought Mythic after Mythic got WAR license. EA wants WoW numbers, or close to that. Low specs are part of WoW's success as we all know.
Actually, the graphics engine has a dx10 core initiated for future release, so it will be dx9+, dx10; Which was stated to me at a convention. Make sure you don't confuse the old screenshots with the newer ones, the old screen's were before the revamp of the graphics engine, basically before EA took over. Anything that says pre-alpha or 1st stage beta in the videos/screenshots is not from the newer graphics engine.
If you've done your homework, WAR's multithreaded-mesh on the poly's are cleaner than WoW, much cleaner. I have seen it close up at the convention while people were playing. It's a hell of a lot smoother, even when structures or other things are caught on fire, it seems very 'fluid' like. The physics graphic-core environment alone is amazing, something that WoW doesn't even have within the game. All of these examples alone just solidify the fact that higher spec's are going to be 'recommended' at least. You may get by with 2GB of DDR RAM & a decent video card, however in larger battles (with hundreds of players which was also mentioned), you might feel the performance drop quite a bit.
And if you're using Vista (64bit), I can't even IMAGINE how people could be running with only 2GB of RAM anyway... Vista alone is a memory hog. If you have Windows XP then 2GB should be fine, your gonna have trouble really, when trying to run 4GB+ RAM on an XP 32bit system anyway, and yes you can't run more than 3GB of RAM on VIsta (32bit).
Yes low spec games do bring in larger crowds, this I understand believe me. However WAR has something that WoW could never deal with because Blizzard did not know how to fix/run the proper net-code: Open War PvP. Unlike WoW, WAR has large scale open PvP battles, they are not segregated PvP instances (although WAR will also have scenerios). So its not really the graphics that people should be completely worried about, as you've stated, but the amount of rendering that will have to take place during combat, and whether EA Mythic have setup a well designed net-code as well. All this in part, again, will depend on how much RAM you have (and the speed of your RAM), plus your video card(s) throughput. Those, in my opinion, will be your 2 biggest concerns for WAR and other future games I'm sure.
With the pricing of computer components these days, getting this type of an upgrade is not so unrealistic believe me.
Hello, my brother and I just got 4 of these free server computers from my brother's work place and I was thinking of turning these into a gamming machine. I wanted to know how good these are for gamming. Anyone know knows their stuff about computer would help me out very much with what these things can do.From what I can tell, I wont be able to put a sound card in it. It only has 1 pci slot.
motherboard: Super P4DLR
1pci slot: no video card yet
no sound
2 Processors: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (4 CPUs) - i think there both the same, not sure.
Memory: 3924MB RAM - not 100% sure its ddr. it could be sdr
Hopefully all this needs is a good video card. Can this machine run good with all settings set on high? Well, any help would be great. Thanx. Oh and if this is a good machine to run WAR on, what video card should I get?
Originally posted by yangj81 Hello, my brother and I just got 4 of these free server computers from my brother's work place and I was thinking of turning these into a gamming machine. I wanted to know how good these are for gamming. Anyone know knows their stuff about computer would help me out very much with what these things can do.From what I can tell, I wont be able to put a sound card in it. It only has 1 pci slot. motherboard: Super P4DLR 1pci slot: no video card yet no sound 2 Processors: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (4 CPUs) - i think there both the same, not sure. Memory: 3924MB RAM - not 100% sure its ddr. it could be sdr Hopefully all this needs is a good video card. Can this machine run good with all settings set on high? Well, any help would be great. Thanx. Oh and if this is a good machine to run WAR on, what video card should I get?
The only really good video card I know of is the Nvidia Geforce 8800gt serie, however to be able to run that you will need a good fan. Apart from that the computer seems pretty nice, but I'm not that good at computers.
Hello, my brother and I just got 4 of these free server computers from my brother's work place and I was thinking of turning these into a gamming machine. I wanted to know how good these are for gamming. Anyone know knows their stuff about computer would help me out very much with what these things can do.From what I can tell, I wont be able to put a sound card in it. It only has 1 pci slot.
motherboard: Super P4DLR
1pci slot: no video card yet
no sound
2 Processors: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (4 CPUs) - i think there both the same, not sure.
Memory: 3924MB RAM - not 100% sure its ddr. it could be sdr
Hopefully all this needs is a good video card. Can this machine run good with all settings set on high? Well, any help would be great. Thanx. Oh and if this is a good machine to run WAR on, what video card should I get?
The only really good video card I know of is the Nvidia Geforce 8800gt serie, however to be able to run that you will need a good fan. Apart from that the computer seems pretty nice, but I'm not that good at computers.
Uh.. you are right.. you aren't good with computers.
Is this a joke? I hope it is..
Here's my suggestion, and please take no offense. Buy a new one.
Most viable video cards are pci-express. And they have multiple slots.
That motherboard is beyond bad, intel xeon? 2.4? You can get a decent pentium 4 3.0 extremely cheap.. and a few gigs of ddr2 as well. Probably both for around 100 bucks if you shop around a little bit. I mean, the amount of memory you listed isn't even worth mentioning ever again. No sound, no video card, what kind of hard drive does it have? Does it even have XP? I'm betting it is running professional.
In short. That is NOT even close to a good gaming computer. In fact, mentioning those specs with the word computer is giving that word a bad name. Ok.. so now I'll try to help.
Parts are really cheap, but it seems like you'd be better off buying a computer at your local dell kiosk or Best Buy. You could get a decent computer for 300-500. It may not play games like you'd wish, but you could get by.
Look for something like, a new motherboard with pci-express slots, that can handle ddr2 memory and has the ability to run dual core cpu's. Make sure the motherboard matches the cpu type (Intel-AMD), like I mentioned, a single core 3.0 cpu would handle just fine. 2 gigs of ddr2 ram is very cheap. A decent sized hard drive.. 150-500gig shouldn't break the bank. Obviously, some sort of sound card would be a plus. A power supply that can deal with significant upgrades.. I'd say 600-700 will run any video card on the market and the rest of your stuff with ease. Video cards will be your money problem though.. if you want a really good one, it could run you up to 600 bucks, if you are content with a semi-decent card that will play most games on medium settings.. I can speak for geforce cards, because I own them.. I'd get nothing worse than a 7800 or better. The most popular ones are the 8800gtx's.. but they will bite a hole in your wallet.
It might of been said already but WAR is a very Instanced game.
City seige's are not huge they are instance, for example, the start of the city capture will be smashing the gates, this is done in Instances, 24v24 per instance, so if 240 players want to participate then 5 instances of the "city gates" are created... the points between these instances are added together to dictate when the gates fall, then its onto another 24v24 instance and so on.
In the begining mythic wanted non instanced city sieges but they have since changed this long ago (no big announcment ofc)... to any 1 who has played DAoC you will know why, you either have a laggy 100v100 or a smooth 24v24.
so onto the topic, 1GB will be fine, the only time it might become an issue is in open PvP, but if you have run WoW 40v40 Battle ground or 40man raids you be fine. and yes WAR will be scaleable.. they are going after the WoW player base so it will need to be.
My feeling is you never want to die in pvp, when its your system fault. That is just demoralizing, I am planning to go out and get an additional 1 gig stick before release to bring my system to 2 gigs.
I see many of you bringing up this nonsense that WAR is going to be only about Instances. Obviously, you haven't been paying attention to the latest RvR news as of late December. They are now putting much more focus into Open World PvP. It will now have equal weight to the instanced stuff. I predict that Open World PvP will only grow in importance (thank god). Who wants yet another WoW clone?
Originally posted by Kon85 Hello, Since I can play mmorpg's like WoW on full graphical settings and newer ones like Lotro on a mixture of highest and some medium settings, I'm not thinking about upgrading my CPU or graphics card. However, I am concerned about 1 thing. The RvR. Does this mean that the battles will consist out of tons of players? Unlike a 10 vs 10 battleground in WoW for example. I'm guessing RAM is the most important thing is huge fights then? Will 1GB be enough? Don't mind tuning a few settings down, but I have some bad experiences with WoW's AV with 512 ram on my older pc Kon p.s i know i know, official req's are released yet
Post your PC stats. It's hard to say not knowing what processor you have, what vid card you have. Chances are you will really want more than 1gb of RAM, but it's really impossible to say without knowing what your system specs are.
It might of been said already but WAR is a very Instanced game. City seige's are not huge they are instance, for example, the start of the city capture will be smashing the gates, this is done in Instances, 24v24 per instance, so if 240 players want to participate then 5 instances of the "city gates" are created... the points between these instances are added together to dictate when the gates fall, then its onto another 24v24 instance and so on. In the begining mythic wanted non instanced city sieges but they have since changed this long ago (no big announcment ofc)... to any 1 who has played DAoC you will know why, you either have a laggy 100v100 or a smooth 24v24. so onto the topic, 1GB will be fine, the only time it might become an issue is in open PvP, but if you have run WoW 40v40 Battle ground or 40man raids you be fine. and yes WAR will be scaleable.. they are going after the WoW player base so it will need to be.
Either you just broke the NDA, meaning.. you're just about to get kicked out of beta.. or you don't have a clue what you're talking about..
Nowhere in any of the FAQ's, video blogs, podcasts or dev videos have they mentioned anything involving 24vs24. You get the number 24 from the maximum allowable battlegroup size, which I believe is made up of four, six man parties. In recent dev videos they have talked about having "hundreds" of players in a city siege area at a time, and successfully pulling it off. They never mentioned anything about a max of 24 people. That wouldn't make any sense at all, how would you control who took that part of the city over if there were 50 instances with varied results? There have been no mention of anything that you've said..
Now, you might be confusing this with an instanced battleground. They will have player capped BG's.. but I'm almost 100% positive that city sieges play out completely different. There are several 'zones' inside the city that can spread players apart.. but no capped limit.
Where do people get this stuff?
Not only that.. but if WoW can pull off 40v40 in close proximity and have little lag with a HORRIBLE net-code.. I have no doubt that with a decent chunk of RAM, that you could be in larger than 50v50 battles without much performance drop in WAR.
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First, RAM is so freaking cheap...just get 2GB.
The biggest bottleneck will be the GPU depending on how many characters are in your screen. 8800GT will be excellent.
CPU..well C2D 1.6 GHz and above will work, mostly the server is taking care of the AI and "Dogs of War".
I guess the hardware requirement are somewhere between WoW and LoTR.
2 gb , why . . . . easy.
In AV you may see liek 25-30 people at a time other than the start.
Wow is an older game and WAr is goign to be harder on systems.
2gbs of ram is not alot at all 8 is alot , 2 is very little.
I atm use 1 gb of ram to play wow, it runs well, however, it would run better with 2 and hopefully you will want 3-4 gb of ram for WAR becuase that means its graphics are ok or there a ton of allies and enemies on your screen at once. Hipp hipp hooray for massive open world pvp.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
personally now days (especially with Vista) i never have less than 2 gb of ram. its so cheap and its good for increasing performance (when i first played WoW i was on 512mb Ram then i upped that to 2gb and cities never lagged again)
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Das, I'm not trying to be funny about this but if I were you, I would wait until the game specs were released and comments from the developers on if Warhammer's coding will support Quadcore processors "I'm hoping it will".Currently, the only game that I am aware of that will take advantage of dx10 graphic cards and dual/quadcore processors is Age of Conan. If I were you, I would wait before spending all that money on a system of that magnitude "unless you know something the rest of us don't?".
I'm not just buying the system for WAR. But, I do anticipate that WAR will occupy the majority of my time. I wouldn't mind playing Crysys.. Bioshock, UT3.. games like that.. and I want to run them well. I want to run WAR at maximum settings as well, with many people on the screen at once.
I shouldn't need to upgrade for quite a while when I'm done as well. That is a deciding factor. So, it really doesn't have much to do with WAR's game specs.. I can pretty much tell you what they are anyways.. they'll probably be very comparable to LOTRO.
Plus, it would be nice to have my pc boot up in 5 seconds.. heh
its 2008.
2gb of ram is anywhere as low as $35 .. and you can get even better brands for the $80 range.
lol, you obviously do not understand the concept of virtual and physical memory.
Suggestion: Take an IT course at your local college.
If you already are in that field then..
Suggestion: Start looking for another job.
I have a 127GB of ram. I need a new Video Card and i would like to upgrade my proc. Any ideas of waht would be suitable? Im not looking to spend more then a 100 dollors
127GB ram..? I hope you mean memory and not ram otherwise you must be haxxing.
Actually ...lol...I messed up i have 106g of disk space on my comp i have somewhere around the same number of beta ticks for WAR is ram (KB) about 50-70 higher.So computer is greatly in need of upgrading for the new gen MMO's. I would like to have 3gb just to be safe but ill settle for 2.
Was looking at some Vid cards and saw a few Nvidia cards for like 60 bucks but around where i live Nvidia cards are in the 100's and i have a athleon processor.
Flame & rant all you like. My older system ( 5 years old now ) which played WoW with 512 of corsair mem was not enough so i added another 512 to make a gig & it ran much better. Btw ram is just one part of your P.C there are the other main factors CPU, GC, Motherboard & PSU make sure you keep un cool
How much RAM?
Well that depends on how big the keep door is.
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I'm sad that no one got my RvR reference joke, oh well maybe next time. 
I think some of you guys are just in outer space, computer equipment snobs AND have no flipping clue about something other than IT; business. They won't release a game that requires more than 2 Gb to get moderate (ie., medium) performance merely because not a whole heck of a lot of systems come with more than that by release time. Any savvy business person knows to release a product that can be used on the computers that the consumers have NOW. You don't get second chances 6~12 months later when equipment pricing goes down. Look at WoW; it worked at nice settings on fairly common computer gamers' rigs when it was released. Yes, it is smart to have higher levels of detail for staying power, but it has to run pretty good with what they have now. If you have 1Gb, my guess is you will need to keep the settings down pretty low, but ultimately those huge sieges are gonna slow due to server load as well, no matter how many cool, color coded and glow-in-the-dark extra parts you have on your PC.
You can buy a desktop with a monitor and a 512 mb graphics card / 2 gb of ram and a 32 bit windows OS for around $800 these days. That being said, if you can't even afford that, you will be stuck playing games at 5-20 FPS like I do.
Why are people constantly using WoW as a gauge. WoW's graphic engine is like 7 years old. It was being developed back in 2000-2001. How in-the-name-of-the-easter-bunny can you think that you would need ANY graphic power to run that game, or even compare it to newer games (i.e. WAR). I think I could honestly run WoW from a cell phone.
I've been playin' games for years, even attended / competed in some gaming events (CPL, SMD, QuakeCon, etc), and let me tell you, you would WANT to have an advantage over others when it comes to performance, or at least not struggle. At those events, they normally give you top-end machines to use. With MMO's however, I find that more of ANYTHING (RAM, proc power, vid card memory) is always a bonus, it can't be BAD.
Depends on the RAM, if its DDR2 then I would say 1gig might be enough. However in this day and age I think 2gigs of DDR2 would be the way to go. It's not really that expensive check out Newegg.com and see what they are going for.
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Why are people constantly using WoW as a gauge. WoW's graphic engine is like 7 years old. It was being developed back in 2000-2001. How in-the-name-of-the-easter-bunny can you think that you would need ANY graphic power to run that game, or even compare it to newer games (i.e. WAR). I think I could honestly run WoW from a cell phone.
I've been playin' games for years, even attended / competed in some gaming events (CPL, SMD, QuakeCon, etc), and let me tell you, you would WANT to have an advantage over others when it comes to performance, or at least not struggle. At those events, they normally give you top-end machines to use. With MMO's however, I find that more of ANYTHING (RAM, proc power, vid card memory) is always a bonus, it can't be BAD.
From screenshots and videos we have seen, I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that Dwarfs/elves in War have a higher amount of polys then those in WoW.From all the environment art, and characters in the game I've seen on screens from beta, I'd be surprised if you need anything more then a geforce 6 to run the game at max settings.
As per ram, 2 gigs on XP will suffice, on vista(32) cant have more then 3 anyhow.
300vs300 in DAOC really?! damn nice.
EA bought Mythic after Mythic got WAR license. EA wants WoW numbers, or close to that. Low specs are part of WoW's success as we all know.
Why are people constantly using WoW as a gauge. WoW's graphic engine is like 7 years old. It was being developed back in 2000-2001. How in-the-name-of-the-easter-bunny can you think that you would need ANY graphic power to run that game, or even compare it to newer games (i.e. WAR). I think I could honestly run WoW from a cell phone.
I've been playin' games for years, even attended / competed in some gaming events (CPL, SMD, QuakeCon, etc), and let me tell you, you would WANT to have an advantage over others when it comes to performance, or at least not struggle. At those events, they normally give you top-end machines to use. With MMO's however, I find that more of ANYTHING (RAM, proc power, vid card memory) is always a bonus, it can't be BAD.
From screenshots and videos we have seen, I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that Dwarfs/elves in War have a higher amount of polys then those in WoW.From all the environment art, and characters in the game I've seen on screens from beta, I'd be surprised if you need anything more then a geforce 6 to run the game at max settings.
As per ram, 2 gigs on XP will suffice, on vista(32) cant have more then 3 anyhow.
300vs300 in DAOC really?! damn nice.
EA bought Mythic after Mythic got WAR license. EA wants WoW numbers, or close to that. Low specs are part of WoW's success as we all know.
Actually, the graphics engine has a dx10 core initiated for future release, so it will be dx9+, dx10; Which was stated to me at a convention. Make sure you don't confuse the old screenshots with the newer ones, the old screen's were before the revamp of the graphics engine, basically before EA took over. Anything that says pre-alpha or 1st stage beta in the videos/screenshots is not from the newer graphics engine.
If you've done your homework, WAR's multithreaded-mesh on the poly's are cleaner than WoW, much cleaner. I have seen it close up at the convention while people were playing. It's a hell of a lot smoother, even when structures or other things are caught on fire, it seems very 'fluid' like. The physics graphic-core environment alone is amazing, something that WoW doesn't even have within the game. All of these examples alone just solidify the fact that higher spec's are going to be 'recommended' at least. You may get by with 2GB of DDR RAM & a decent video card, however in larger battles (with hundreds of players which was also mentioned), you might feel the performance drop quite a bit.
And if you're using Vista (64bit), I can't even IMAGINE how people could be running with only 2GB of RAM anyway... Vista alone is a memory hog. If you have Windows XP then 2GB should be fine, your gonna have trouble really, when trying to run 4GB+ RAM on an XP 32bit system anyway, and yes you can't run more than 3GB of RAM on VIsta (32bit).
Yes low spec games do bring in larger crowds, this I understand believe me. However WAR has something that WoW could never deal with because Blizzard did not know how to fix/run the proper net-code: Open War PvP. Unlike WoW, WAR has large scale open PvP battles, they are not segregated PvP instances (although WAR will also have scenerios). So its not really the graphics that people should be completely worried about, as you've stated, but the amount of rendering that will have to take place during combat, and whether EA Mythic have setup a well designed net-code as well. All this in part, again, will depend on how much RAM you have (and the speed of your RAM), plus your video card(s) throughput. Those, in my opinion, will be your 2 biggest concerns for WAR and other future games I'm sure.
With the pricing of computer components these days, getting this type of an upgrade is not so unrealistic believe me.
Hello, my brother and I just got 4 of these free server computers from my brother's work place and I was thinking of turning these into a gamming machine. I wanted to know how good these are for gamming. Anyone know knows their stuff about computer would help me out very much with what these things can do.From what I can tell, I wont be able to put a sound card in it. It only has 1 pci slot.
motherboard: Super P4DLR
1pci slot: no video card yet
no sound
2 Processors: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (4 CPUs) - i think there both the same, not sure.
Memory: 3924MB RAM - not 100% sure its ddr. it could be sdr
Hopefully all this needs is a good video card. Can this machine run good with all settings set on high? Well, any help would be great. Thanx. Oh and if this is a good machine to run WAR on, what video card should I get?
The only really good video card I know of is the Nvidia Geforce 8800gt serie, however to be able to run that you will need a good fan. Apart from that the computer seems pretty nice, but I'm not that good at computers.
The only really good video card I know of is the Nvidia Geforce 8800gt serie, however to be able to run that you will need a good fan. Apart from that the computer seems pretty nice, but I'm not that good at computers.
Uh.. you are right.. you aren't good with computers.
Is this a joke? I hope it is..
Here's my suggestion, and please take no offense. Buy a new one.
Most viable video cards are pci-express. And they have multiple slots.
That motherboard is beyond bad, intel xeon? 2.4? You can get a decent pentium 4 3.0 extremely cheap.. and a few gigs of ddr2 as well. Probably both for around 100 bucks if you shop around a little bit. I mean, the amount of memory you listed isn't even worth mentioning ever again. No sound, no video card, what kind of hard drive does it have? Does it even have XP? I'm betting it is running professional.
In short. That is NOT even close to a good gaming computer. In fact, mentioning those specs with the word computer is giving that word a bad name. Ok.. so now I'll try to help.
Parts are really cheap, but it seems like you'd be better off buying a computer at your local dell kiosk or Best Buy. You could get a decent computer for 300-500. It may not play games like you'd wish, but you could get by.
Look for something like, a new motherboard with pci-express slots, that can handle ddr2 memory and has the ability to run dual core cpu's. Make sure the motherboard matches the cpu type (Intel-AMD), like I mentioned, a single core 3.0 cpu would handle just fine. 2 gigs of ddr2 ram is very cheap. A decent sized hard drive.. 150-500gig shouldn't break the bank. Obviously, some sort of sound card would be a plus. A power supply that can deal with significant upgrades.. I'd say 600-700 will run any video card on the market and the rest of your stuff with ease. Video cards will be your money problem though.. if you want a really good one, it could run you up to 600 bucks, if you are content with a semi-decent card that will play most games on medium settings.. I can speak for geforce cards, because I own them.. I'd get nothing worse than a 7800 or better. The most popular ones are the 8800gtx's.. but they will bite a hole in your wallet.
I hope some of that helps..
It might of been said already but WAR is a very Instanced game.
City seige's are not huge they are instance, for example, the start of the city capture will be smashing the gates, this is done in Instances, 24v24 per instance, so if 240 players want to participate then 5 instances of the "city gates" are created... the points between these instances are added together to dictate when the gates fall, then its onto another 24v24 instance and so on.
In the begining mythic wanted non instanced city sieges but they have since changed this long ago (no big announcment ofc)... to any 1 who has played DAoC you will know why, you either have a laggy 100v100 or a smooth 24v24.
so onto the topic, 1GB will be fine, the only time it might become an issue is in open PvP, but if you have run WoW 40v40 Battle ground or 40man raids you be fine. and yes WAR will be scaleable.. they are going after the WoW player base so it will need to be.
My feeling is you never want to die in pvp, when its your system fault. That is just demoralizing, I am planning to go out and get an additional 1 gig stick before release to bring my system to 2 gigs.
I see many of you bringing up this nonsense that WAR is going to be only about Instances. Obviously, you haven't been paying attention to the latest RvR news as of late December. They are now putting much more focus into Open World PvP. It will now have equal weight to the instanced stuff. I predict that Open World PvP will only grow in importance (thank god). Who wants yet another WoW clone?
Post your PC stats. It's hard to say not knowing what processor you have, what vid card you have. Chances are you will really want more than 1gb of RAM, but it's really impossible to say without knowing what your system specs are.
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Either you just broke the NDA, meaning.. you're just about to get kicked out of beta.. or you don't have a clue what you're talking about..
Nowhere in any of the FAQ's, video blogs, podcasts or dev videos have they mentioned anything involving 24vs24. You get the number 24 from the maximum allowable battlegroup size, which I believe is made up of four, six man parties. In recent dev videos they have talked about having "hundreds" of players in a city siege area at a time, and successfully pulling it off. They never mentioned anything about a max of 24 people. That wouldn't make any sense at all, how would you control who took that part of the city over if there were 50 instances with varied results? There have been no mention of anything that you've said..
Now, you might be confusing this with an instanced battleground. They will have player capped BG's.. but I'm almost 100% positive that city sieges play out completely different. There are several 'zones' inside the city that can spread players apart.. but no capped limit.
Where do people get this stuff?
Not only that.. but if WoW can pull off 40v40 in close proximity and have little lag with a HORRIBLE net-code.. I have no doubt that with a decent chunk of RAM, that you could be in larger than 50v50 battles without much performance drop in WAR.