It's really tough knowing that the game you've wasted 8 years following is really nothing more than a big steaming pile of horse shit waiting to fail.. isn't it Focker?
But don't worry. When 2008 comes and goes.. I promise not to laugh too hard when you're still playing Forumfall trying to convince everyone of how awesome darkfall is.
It's really tough knowing that the game you've wasted 8 years following is really nothing more than a big steaming pile of horse shit waiting to fail.. isn't it Focker? But don't worry. When 2008 comes and goes.. I promise not to laugh too hard when you're still playing Forumfall trying to convince everyone of how awesome darkfall is.
Not sure if you realise it yourself, but you trying to convince poeple harder that it will fail then I have seen anyone trying to convince us that the game is gonna rock. Only time will tell really,no-one can really know.
I think one point is overlooked in these threads when people discuss darkfall and throw in other games prep'ing for release.
IP or intellectual property, Darkfall doesnt have an IP. not like conan and even warhammer.
Conan is widely known outside of the gaming universe, specially by many whom grew up and read the comics or watched the movies. A growing number of those who arnt gamers are turning into them. that is going to boost conan numbers.
Warhammer, pen and paper, well known by any who play pen and paper RPGs, That in conjuction with a huge PR blitz is going to boost Warhammers numbers.
And we arnt talking about how good or bad gameplay is or isnt, same as graphics.
Having a large fanbase prior to releasing a game (see WoW which I will never play even tho im a blizzard fan) is a fairly safe proven method of getting numbers to play the game. Same applies to Conan and Warhammer. Both have fanbases that are sizable compared to many of the mmo's out there.
Do I think Darkfall will fail? cant really say, I havnt seen practically anything on it but that actually can hurt a game.
Will it be a booming success? Depends on how long it takes them to feed the public with information and how long to release it.
A big kicker that not everyone realizes is that the average gamer (casual and hardcore) rarely has the attention span to follow a game for years through developement.
The only exceptions to the above statement are companies like blizzard whom many know has never had any of their games fail. People follow their work waiting in anticipation for releases. Hell I followed Diablo 2 for ages waiting on it.
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Originally posted by elitexion them not showing us everything doesnt mean there lieing its pretty bad how much war and AOc have to Pr to get any kinda intersterst
I don't think that having monthly newsletters, updated websites accompanied with regular podcasts is pathetic by any means. I think that is the intelligent and obvious thing to do when you are trying to promote a game set to release soon. WAR and AoC are very well organized at this point and the betas are going well enough that both games will likely be released in 2008 without any major set backs.
I want DF to release just like you, but by no means are they competitive with the big namers like WAR and AoC that will likely gain some big numbers in this year. I hope that DF is still in the making, but if it is, it is a far way from release. You can bet your life on the fact that it won't be releasing in 2008.
The convertible bonds will be issued and redeemed at 100% of their principal amount..." So what your saying is since "Issued" doesnt mean sold than their giving away free money? I want be a part of that.
also i see you ignored that ... that means sold to me whats going to happen when your proven wrong in 2008?
Man, whoever compared the Dorkfall fanatics to religious zealots is about right...
Basically Adventuring is trying to produce money by selling bonds, those bonds are completely worthless UNLESS Adventurine makes money, they arn't giving away free money, they are taking free money and giving nothing.
Proven wrong in 2008?
like 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003?
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
You see, I'm fine with a debate about Darkfall's features and the whole Beta/Release subject, but when you make a thread just to exagerate and say how you hate the develepors (which you said in a later post in this thread), and how you hate the fans, is idiotic. It solved nothing. People are totally going to start agreeing with your opinions when you bash them. You should read Heerobya's Blog, 'How Not to Promote Your Game'. You're not promoting a game, but it is the same principles.
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Ammusing attempt at acheiving nothing. Thread adds Zero value to any discussion here other than making the OP look lets say ammusing, nice try nice FAIL (can't stop laughing what a hoot).
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Originally posted by elitexion them not showing us everything doesnt mean there lieing its pretty bad how much war and AOc have to Pr to get any kinda intersterst
I don't think that having monthly newsletters, updated websites accompanied with regular podcasts is pathetic by any means. I think that is the intelligent and obvious thing to do when you are trying to promote a game set to release soon. WAR and AoC are very well organized at this point and the betas are going well enough that both games will likely be released in 2008 without any major set backs.
I want DF to release just like you, but by no means are they competitive with the big namers like WAR and AoC that will likely gain some big numbers in this year. I hope that DF is still in the making, but if it is, it is a far way from release. You can bet your life on the fact that it won't be releasing in 2008.
elitexion is spot on advertising and an ammount of effort on building hype can be good but in reality it's about priorities. Who says darkfall will release soon! Things may not be pathetic but they cost money it is all about priorities nothing more nothing less.
Put your'e own spin on this whatever makes you feel good, reality says there are logical reasons why they wouldn't be promoting at the moment... The main one is that they are not near enough to release in my oppinion but I wouln't like to judge. Lots of factors that most of us are unaware of. (Just let me laugh a little more at the OP and the DF haters for creating a mamoth thread out of nothing)
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(Just let me laugh a little more at the OP and the DF haters for creating a mamoth thread out of nothing)
Actually the thread IS about something. It's about Darkfalls complete lack of credibility and the fact that when people bring that up or point it out , the Darkfall fanatics either label them trolls or just banish them for being "non believers"..
(Just let me laugh a little more at the OP and the DF haters for creating a mamoth thread out of nothing)
Actually the thread IS about something. It's about Darkfalls complete lack of credibility and the fact that when people bring that up or point it out , the Darkfall fanatics either label them trolls or just banish them for being "non believers"..
so uh.. ya
In your opinion (This is just so funny it like entertainment central just a massive troll and flame fest from people who obviously just don't for some reason like DF)
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I think one point is overlooked in these threads when people discuss darkfall and throw in other games prep'ing for release. IP or intellectual property, Darkfall doesnt have an IP. not like conan and even warhammer. Conan is widely known outside of the gaming universe, specially by many whom grew up and read the comics or watched the movies. A growing number of those who arnt gamers are turning into them. that is going to boost conan numbers. Warhammer, pen and paper, well known by any who play pen and paper RPGs, That in conjuction with a huge PR blitz is going to boost Warhammers numbers. And we arnt talking about how good or bad gameplay is or isnt, same as graphics. Having a large fanbase prior to releasing a game (see WoW which I will never play even tho im a blizzard fan) is a fairly safe proven method of getting numbers to play the game. Same applies to Conan and Warhammer. Both have fanbases that are sizable compared to many of the mmo's out there. Do I think Darkfall will fail? cant really say, I havnt seen practically anything on it but that actually can hurt a game. Will it be a booming success? Depends on how long it takes them to feed the public with information and how long to release it. A big kicker that not everyone realizes is that the average gamer (casual and hardcore) rarely has the attention span to follow a game for years through developement.
The only exceptions to the above statement are companies like blizzard whom many know has never had any of their games fail. People follow their work waiting in anticipation for releases. Hell I followed Diablo 2 for ages waiting on it.
Nice post Sortan just one slight problem, when taking an existing IP you will have a player base true. But you will have a sesious limitation from an innovation and flexibility perspective. Also this is a sandbox game and you are not comparing like for like.
They will feed the public when they need to and have the collateral and release dates sorted, they obviously do not at the moment.
OH and AOC will more than likely fail badly I have a bad feeling, lots of money being thrown after a bad IP.
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yea aoc can be consider a 1 player game except for the pvp side of it lol to many instances like ive said before to much zoning >< btw its still dice rool with manuall targetting /attacking
I read every single one of these posts from the original to the one posted right before this one .. I laughed alot .. I mean alot .. this argument has gone from points of grammatical accuracy to beliefs almost religious in their faithfulness of whether this poor game is going to release or not ..
Killershiver you have to be the single most driven individual for the idea that this game is going to absolutely be completed on this whole website.
They should hire you as their PR guy for real .. hell the vatican should hire you to convert the chinese to catholocism. lol
and someone someplace in here posted that they thought someone else was getting paid to come here and flame this game or that ... i gotta know .. where do you apply for that job and what is the job title cause i can think of harder things to do for a living
gee honey what did you do today at work? - on nothing dear just logged onto some forums and called some 12 year olds dumb, man i'm not tired at all
lol
I do have to say it entertained me for at least 45 minutes reading all this hilariousness
and before anyone mentions my low post count .. yes i'm a lurker .. just check the account creation date .. i've been lurkin a long time .. i don't post too often because i only see the need to do so in order to try and help someone who has a legit question i can answer or put some insight into
lol
sides this place can be pretty entertaining just reading what all you die hards write
So where your credibility on that one? /shug i dont see it -_-
I don't need credibility to be a critic. I'am not trying to sell anything to anyone. But the people building Darkfall are... they're the ones who need credibility.. They have absolutely none and there's no one to blame for it but themselves (and some of their fans)
Now if the game actually goes into a playable public Beta this year , and has even HALF of what they say in-game and functioning perfectly then my hats off to them... but if I were betting... I wouldn't put a dollar on that actually happening.
People like to say "they don't owe anyone anything". Well I say that if you are trying to cultivate a public community using the project you are building as the base for that community , (which they are seeing as they have public forums up) then you do OWE people something.. especially when many of those followers are out building websites to help promote your project to the public which later you benefit from by making $$$$$.
I don't see the Darkfall devs telling people to NOT help promote the game..
Nobody likes to be strung along for 7 years getting fed promises that never seem to materialize... That's why this game actually has enemies. Because many people feel used , cheated , and lied to by the people building it.
i haven't posted about darkfall in about 4 months, just checking up on DFs progress, well well surprise surprise no Beta '07....heh. But dont worry Beta will be early '08, they have a special offer, beta keys will ship with collectors editions of Duke Nukem Forever, get your pre-orders today! Anyways, seriously. We cant call it "vapour-ware", we have to wait till Adventurine cancels the project, the DF believers are getting technical and taking exact meaning of your words. They have nothing to show for the game, so whats the best form of defense?, attack! e.g DF Hater: "DF is a piece of crap." DF Fan Boy: "No technically a 'piece of crap' is excrement. Furthermore you refer to 'piece of ', Darkfall is neither part of a whole, or connecting to other 'pieces'. OWNDIZZLED DF4TW YO."
Thats exactly how it goes down.
Well tbh im starting to think sometimes that the dev team working on DF is incompetent, they managed to screw up the coding for DE as well when they worked on that ( Dragon Empires ) a game that got given up bout 2 years ago or something like that.
and before anyone mentions my low post count .. yes i'm a lurker .. just check the account creation date .. i've been lurkin a long time .. i don't post too often because i only see the need to do so in order to try and help someone who has a legit question i can answer or put some insight into
lol
sides this place can be pretty entertaining just reading what all you die hards write
I'm in the same boat....and this has been the most entertaining read on here since that whole EVE/CCP cheating fiasco....thanks!
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Aww, Howi. Did you forget to change your name back to SLI before you responded?
It's really tough knowing that the game you've wasted 8 years following is really nothing more than a big steaming pile of horse shit waiting to fail.. isn't it Focker?
But don't worry. When 2008 comes and goes.. I promise not to laugh too hard when you're still playing Forumfall trying to convince everyone of how awesome darkfall is.
Not sure if you realise it yourself, but you trying to convince poeple harder that it will fail then I have seen anyone trying to convince us that the game is gonna rock. Only time will tell really,no-one can really know.
I think one point is overlooked in these threads when people discuss darkfall and throw in other games prep'ing for release.
IP or intellectual property, Darkfall doesnt have an IP. not like conan and even warhammer.
Conan is widely known outside of the gaming universe, specially by many whom grew up and read the comics or watched the movies. A growing number of those who arnt gamers are turning into them. that is going to boost conan numbers.
Warhammer, pen and paper, well known by any who play pen and paper RPGs, That in conjuction with a huge PR blitz is going to boost Warhammers numbers.
And we arnt talking about how good or bad gameplay is or isnt, same as graphics.
Having a large fanbase prior to releasing a game (see WoW which I will never play even tho im a blizzard fan) is a fairly safe proven method of getting numbers to play the game. Same applies to Conan and Warhammer. Both have fanbases that are sizable compared to many of the mmo's out there.
Do I think Darkfall will fail? cant really say, I havnt seen practically anything on it but that actually can hurt a game.
Will it be a booming success? Depends on how long it takes them to feed the public with information and how long to release it.
A big kicker that not everyone realizes is that the average gamer (casual and hardcore) rarely has the attention span to follow a game for years through developement.
The only exceptions to the above statement are companies like blizzard whom many know has never had any of their games fail. People follow their work waiting in anticipation for releases. Hell I followed Diablo 2 for ages waiting on it.
Playing: Not much actively.
Games played: to many to list, been playing MMO's since 2001
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I want DF to release just like you, but by no means are they competitive with the big namers like WAR and AoC that will likely gain some big numbers in this year. I hope that DF is still in the making, but if it is, it is a far way from release. You can bet your life on the fact that it won't be releasing in 2008.
Basically Adventuring is trying to produce money by selling bonds, those bonds are completely worthless UNLESS Adventurine makes money, they arn't giving away free money, they are taking free money and giving nothing.
Proven wrong in 2008?
like 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003?
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
Go back drooling your Age of Capture the flag PvE grind. kthxbai.
You see, I'm fine with a debate about Darkfall's features and the whole Beta/Release subject, but when you make a thread just to exagerate and say how you hate the develepors (which you said in a later post in this thread), and how you hate the fans, is idiotic. It solved nothing. People are totally going to start agreeing with your opinions when you bash them. You should read Heerobya's Blog, 'How Not to Promote Your Game'. You're not promoting a game, but it is the same principles.
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Darkfall Clan
Ammusing attempt at acheiving nothing. Thread adds Zero value to any discussion here other than making the OP look lets say ammusing, nice try nice FAIL (can't stop laughing what a hoot).
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
I want DF to release just like you, but by no means are they competitive with the big namers like WAR and AoC that will likely gain some big numbers in this year. I hope that DF is still in the making, but if it is, it is a far way from release. You can bet your life on the fact that it won't be releasing in 2008.
elitexion is spot on advertising and an ammount of effort on building hype can be good but in reality it's about priorities. Who says darkfall will release soon! Things may not be pathetic but they cost money it is all about priorities nothing more nothing less.Put your'e own spin on this whatever makes you feel good, reality says there are logical reasons why they wouldn't be promoting at the moment... The main one is that they are not near enough to release in my oppinion but I wouln't like to judge. Lots of factors that most of us are unaware of. (Just let me laugh a little more at the OP and the DF haters for creating a mamoth thread out of nothing)
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
so uh.. ya
So where your credibility on that one? /shug i dont see it -_-
so uh.. ya
In your opinion (This is just so funny it like entertainment central just a massive troll and flame fest from people who obviously just don't for some reason like DF)
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
They will feed the public when they need to and have the collateral and release dates sorted, they obviously do not at the moment.
OH and AOC will more than likely fail badly I have a bad feeling, lots of money being thrown after a bad IP.
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
yea aoc can be consider a 1 player game except for the pvp side of it lol to many instances like ive said before to much zoning >< btw its still dice rool with manuall targetting /attacking
I gotta tell you all
I read every single one of these posts from the original to the one posted right before this one .. I laughed alot .. I mean alot .. this argument has gone from points of grammatical accuracy to beliefs almost religious in their faithfulness of whether this poor game is going to release or not ..
Killershiver you have to be the single most driven individual for the idea that this game is going to absolutely be completed on this whole website.
They should hire you as their PR guy for real .. hell the vatican should hire you to convert the chinese to catholocism. lol
and someone someplace in here posted that they thought someone else was getting paid to come here and flame this game or that ... i gotta know .. where do you apply for that job and what is the job title cause i can think of harder things to do for a living
gee honey what did you do today at work? - on nothing dear just logged onto some forums and called some 12 year olds dumb, man i'm not tired at all
lol
I do have to say it entertained me for at least 45 minutes reading all this hilariousness
and before anyone mentions my low post count .. yes i'm a lurker .. just check the account creation date .. i've been lurkin a long time .. i don't post too often because i only see the need to do so in order to try and help someone who has a legit question i can answer or put some insight into
lol
sides this place can be pretty entertaining just reading what all you die hards write
I don't need credibility to be a critic. I'am not trying to sell anything to anyone. But the people building Darkfall are... they're the ones who need credibility.. They have absolutely none and there's no one to blame for it but themselves (and some of their fans)
Now if the game actually goes into a playable public Beta this year , and has even HALF of what they say in-game and functioning perfectly then my hats off to them... but if I were betting... I wouldn't put a dollar on that actually happening.
People like to say "they don't owe anyone anything". Well I say that if you are trying to cultivate a public community using the project you are building as the base for that community , (which they are seeing as they have public forums up) then you do OWE people something.. especially when many of those followers are out building websites to help promote your project to the public which later you benefit from by making $$$$$.
I don't see the Darkfall devs telling people to NOT help promote the game..
Nobody likes to be strung along for 7 years getting fed promises that never seem to materialize... That's why this game actually has enemies. Because many people feel used , cheated , and lied to by the people building it.
Well tbh im starting to think sometimes that the dev team working on DF is incompetent, they managed to screw up the coding for DE as well when they worked on that ( Dragon Empires ) a game that got given up bout 2 years ago or something like that.
List of SOE lies
I'm in the same boat....and this has been the most entertaining read on here since that whole EVE/CCP cheating fiasco....thanks!
die hards follow just this game i follow alot of games so does most fo us
i have back ups and thats all that matters