Fun to get a group a friends together and go train busting, or on PvP servers snare some cocky druid or bard trying to train some innocent levelers and watch them get trampled by their own trains.
yea try it before yo speend money on it it sucks.. honestly its a single player game with multi tacked on go play potbs(the open sea is nice tho) thats how bad the instancing is. wtf is happening to open worlds whats with all the god darn instancing and zones all of sudden it kills the mmo feel of it badly
In my own opinion i do not think instancing is all that bad...i mean i played EverQuest 1 for like 5 years, had no problem zoning...actually the game would suck with out it because you damn near could not drop aggro unless you were an FD class
I agree with you its a matter of choice. Also played the games you mention above and enjoyed them from start but its just no good endgame in those games, its more levels and new forever grinding in new dungeons. Those games becomes boring quite fast as i see it and feel it. Myself i prefer a dynamic player driven world like Darkfall before instances like in AoC. I want total freedom and i prefer to be involved in a game like Darkfall with all its amazing features. Just gotta hope they deliver what they promised.=)
And on the graphic issue, graphics isnt just about polygons, its also a matter of style. I prefer Darkfall style and hopefully the lower polygon counts will make the game run alot better then AoC in large epic battles and that you dont need the latest computer to perform well.
Look at these latest ingame screenies, just amazing how well the developed :
hehe sorry to be every other post but this thread has me interested.
I really like those Pictures of Darkfall...really shows how imaginative the creators are. My only problem is the 2D branches in the trees, otherwise ill be trying Darkfall out as well when and if it releases.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but current Darkfall graphics are at least 3-4 years behind the times and not getting updated anytime soon. Small team means they have to cut quality. You can't do a MMO today with 25-30 people, at least and not have decent graphics and features.
What you really need is a new set of eyeglasses. The only MMORPG game under development that can compete with Darkfall graphics is AoC. AoC have more polygons but i prefer Darkfall graphic style any day compared to AoC one. Love the dark, realistic and gothic style Darkfall delivers. Just awsome.
Imo you cannot have both top graphics and lagfree PvP outside an instance. If you like to PvP 20v20, it could work fine, if you want 200vs200 zoneless, it is impossible with the technology available.
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
Imo you cannot have both top graphics and lagfree PvP outside an instance. If you like to PvP 20v20, it could work fine, if you want 200vs200 zoneless, it is impossible with the technology available.
exactully why you think AOc is a pathed piss of crap
I'm not a big fan of Darkfall's graphics either, and think LOTRO and VG are MUCH better. With that said, graphics definately don't make the game - IMO LOTRO as a game is even worse than WOW, even though it look 1000 times better, and VG's PVP isn't anything to get excited about (although it does sh** all over LOTRO + WOW).
I do believe DF graphics are an improvement over WAR however, though definately not on par with AOC.
In the end, I am not interested in DF for it's graphics, hell, I'm still playing AC1, and along with UO believe these to still be the best games I have ever played.
Can you show me an ingame video of darkfall graphics?......maybe a fight scene or something?
ok just some guy doing his washing up then?
atm all you are doing is posting a picture of a "house" and saying.."man darkfall pawns AoC"
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
dont for get to make the AoC pics bigger by clicking on them. again no contest AoC wins hands down. darkfall is just not there yet, im not saying that it wont get there eventually but its not there now.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occure to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
Can you show me an ingame video of darkfall graphics?......maybe a fight scene or something? ok just some guy doing his washing up then? atm all you are doing is posting a picture of a "house" and saying.."man darkfall pawns AoC"
There loads of them on youtube for easy access. Many is older ones though. Last one was cities&locations. I suggest you download it though for better graphic quality. And understand that the ones you download isnt same quality either as the onscreen gameplay cause of its considerable video compression degradation. Heres a link to this latest video.
There is older videos from Devs showing battles and gameplay. Graphics have improved ALOT since those were made which you can see on the newer screenies.=)
dont for get to make the AoC pics bigger by clicking on them. again no contest AoC wins hands down. darkfall is just not there yet, im not saying that it wont get there eventually but its not there now.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
dont for get to make the AoC pics bigger by clicking on them. again no contest AoC wins hands down. darkfall is just not there yet, im not saying that it wont get there eventually but its not there now.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
You cant really say that AoC will look bad on lower settings because we arnt really sure yet. And anyone who is cant tell us without breaking NDA. So its nearly impossible to say that Darkfall is superior since AoC runs well on high machines because it can also run well on mid range machines.
dont for get to make the AoC pics bigger by clicking on them. again no contest AoC wins hands down. darkfall is just not there yet, im not saying that it wont get there eventually but its not there now.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
the computer that i am buying for AoC costs 789.00 USD and i work at gamestop and make very little money im about as average as they come.
and AoC graphics > DF graphics = technical superiority
i don't have anything from DF that shows what the game play will be like so i cant make the decision on which game is better game play wise. also this thread isn't about that its about graphics and graphics alone
You cant really say that AoC will look bad on lower settings because we arnt really sure yet. And anyone who is cant tell us without breaking NDA. So its nearly impossible to say that Darkfall is superior since AoC runs well on high machines because it can also run well on mid range machines.
Will see. The higher polygon counts in AoC will make alot more lag on average computers then a low polygon graphic like Darkfalls. So i think the Darkfall playable graphic on average computers will be owning AoC graphic on same computer. What does it count that you can have supergraphic when most cant see it cause their computers cant handle it? And i think Darkfall won 4-0 on those screenies.
dont for get to make the AoC pics bigger by clicking on them. again no contest AoC wins hands down. darkfall is just not there yet, im not saying that it wont get there eventually but its not there now.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
the computer that i am buying for AoC costs 789.00 USD and i work at gamestop and make very little money im about as average as they come.
and AoC graphics > DF graphics = technical superiority
i don't have anything from DF that shows what the game play will be like so i cant make the decision on which game is better game play wise. also this thread isn't about that its about graphics and graphics alone
My last answer was all about graphics. I doubt very much youre computer will handle AoC epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time. And youre computer would have alot more chance handling that on a low polygon graphic game like Darkfall. Just imagine to make such genious graphics with such a low polygon count as Darkfall devs have succeded to do. Thats why i think they is way more technical superior. They have a chance making epic battles less lagable. See my point?
dont for get to make the AoC pics bigger by clicking on them. again no contest AoC wins hands down. darkfall is just not there yet, im not saying that it wont get there eventually but its not there now.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
the computer that i am buying for AoC costs 789.00 USD and i work at gamestop and make very little money im about as average as they come.
and AoC graphics > DF graphics = technical superiority
i don't have anything from DF that shows what the game play will be like so i cant make the decision on which game is better game play wise. also this thread isn't about that its about graphics and graphics alone
My last answer was all about graphics. I doubt very much youre computer will handle AoC epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time. And youre computer would have alot more chance handling that on a low polygon graphic game like Darkfall. Just imagine to make such genious graphics with such a low polygon count as Darkfall devs have succeded to do. Thats why i think they is way more technical superior. They have a chance making epic battles less lagable. See my point?
you dont have enough information to make those statements.
you dont know how AoC will run with anything at all and even if you did 80-90% of my average time ingame wont be having epic megabatles, it will be questing and the like which my 8800gt, 2 gigs of dual channel ram and my quad core procesor will handle just fine.
also, you dont really know how any thing will work in DF on a realistic level because you havent seen any thing worth talking about. i have seen all of the video/screenshots there are to see about this game and a list of all of the features that the game has to offer, but the game isnt close enough to any thing (beta, or launch) for me to tell if this game is worth my time.
yes it will do some innovative things and yes it very well beat the pants off of AoC
but i can't see how you are so gung ho about a game that's best points are rumors.
dont for get to make the AoC pics bigger by clicking on them. again no contest AoC wins hands down. darkfall is just not there yet, im not saying that it wont get there eventually but its not there now.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
the computer that i am buying for AoC costs 789.00 USD and i work at gamestop and make very little money im about as average as they come.
and AoC graphics > DF graphics = technical superiority
i don't have anything from DF that shows what the game play will be like so i cant make the decision on which game is better game play wise. also this thread isn't about that its about graphics and graphics alone
My last answer was all about graphics. I doubt very much youre computer will handle AoC epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time. And youre computer would have alot more chance handling that on a low polygon graphic game like Darkfall. Just imagine to make such genious graphics with such a low polygon count as Darkfall devs have succeded to do. Thats why i think they is way more technical superior. They have a chance making epic battles less lagable. See my point?
you dont have enough information to make those statements.
you dont know how AoC will run with anything at all and even if you did 80-90% of my average time ingame wont be having epic megabatles, it will be questing and the like which my 8800gt, 2 gigs of dual channel ram and my quad core procesor will handle just fine.
also, you dont really know how any thing will work in DF on a realistic level because you havent seen any thing worth talking about. i have seen all of the video/screenshots there are to see about this game and a list of all of the features that the game has to offer, but the game isnt close enough to any thing (beta, or launch) for me to tell if this game is worth my time.
yes it will do some innovative things and yes it very well beat the pants off of AoC
but i can't see how you are so gung ho about a game that's best points are rumors.
I think its a very qualified guess that a game with hi polygons like AoC will need a better computer to run the hi end graphics, or?
You wonder why im gung ho about a game thats best points are rumors? I seen all videos on Darkfall, even the fanmade ones which many is very good. I recommend this one though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiIY8tg2qBs . Read all info about the game there is to be known since 2001. Youre in for a surprice according Darkfall beta. If you follow the game closely and read what the developers inform us about you would be as "gung ho" as i am. There is info to be read about Darkfall where all features is in, the graphics is as good as AoC, and you know what, devs already informed us the game is very close done. They is just gonna take that final decision whether to selfpublish or not. So you see, Darkfall is very close to beta if you trust in what the devs is informing us.
Overall, we have a near complete implementation of the game, speaking of the technology and our feature list. A few things that are not implemented yet but in the works are some clan controls, the environment system, and some AI optimizations. The Darkfall AI resembles Quake bots in the Darkfall context of course. They are not the stupid predictable AI you meet in most MMOs, waiting around to meet their fate. They challenge the player and help train him since they behave like someone's controlling them. A new tabbed message system is also being implemented where you can move and arrange your tabs anywhere and any way you like. It's full of cool features like for example you can drag and drop items in there to show someone their stats, or you can arrange for your kill messages to pop up FPS style in the middle of your screen etc.
We're running the game through proper QA testing at the moment, and doing full optimizations to make sure everything will run smoothly even when demands on the game are high.
Content of course is demanding a lot of our attention, and at the moment we're building and placing infrastructure like roads, towers etc, still adding quests, and art assets for these are continually being made. Sounds are being added to everything and more effects on spells and wherever else they're needed. [/QUOTE]
So you see, beta isnt that far away at all. My guess is beta before fall 2008 and if all goes well a release end 2008 or early 2009.
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Originally posted by Aragon100 So you see, beta isnt that far away at all. My guess is beta before fall 2008 and if all goes well a release end 2008 or early 2009.
Beta tests are generally run for a couple of years before release. WAR isn't even going to be released before the near end of 2008, and that game has been in heavy development and beta testing for quite some time now.
Darkfall fans have been touting this game for years, and all the while the rest of the sane (if it can be so called) MMO community have been playing and enjoying other games without having to compare them to some fictitious nonsense that will finally have all the features that people have been clamoring for in an MMORPG.
So go ahead, compare Darkfall graphics to AoC graphics and argue about poly count and make unsupported claims about how AoC's battles will be laggy. At least at the end of the day, AoC fans will have a game to play.
Originally posted by Aragon100 So you see, beta isnt that far away at all. My guess is beta before fall 2008 and if all goes well a release end 2008 or early 2009.
Beta tests are generally run for a couple of years before release. WAR isn't even going to be released before the near end of 2008, and that game has been in heavy development and beta testing for quite some time now.
Darkfall fans have been touting this game for years, and all the while the rest of the sane (if it can be so called) MMO community have been playing and enjoying other games without having to compare them to some fictitious nonsense that will finally have all the features that people have been clamoring for in an MMORPG.
So go ahead, compare Darkfall graphics to AoC graphics and argue about poly count and make unsupported claims about how AoC's battles will be laggy. At least at the end of the day, AoC fans will have a game to play.
you know why they have to test 1 or 2 years because they go to beta with hardly any of the features in, so they are still putting features in. Well the testers are retesting system that keep breaking after each new patch to add something else so its rinse and repeat. darkfall Q/A team is doing this before hand so all darkfall will need is ballancing and stable stress testing. Hoping nothing major goes wrong its better to start beta with a release ready game then a game thats still has like 1/4 of its features this is why 2005 darkfall beta was cancelled because it woulda hurt the game more than it would helped at that point in time so instead of paying for server to host people and run the beta. all there time is concentrated on making darkfall not pring not beta testing getting the game ready tog oto beta so yea they have been telling the truth 2-3 years ago it was ready for beta but it probly would have been with out many features in and it would hurt the game more than it woulda help get that throw your thick heads
quote from taso
*"We want the beta to be almost finished before we show it to the world." so yea i bet you beta will be starting here sooner than most people think.
also quote fromt he interviewer in 2006
*Although the game draws much inspiration from Ultima Online and Shadowbane, unlike both of those MMOs, they don't plan on releasing it until they are content that it's a finished product.They are making the game that they have always wanted to play and they will not compromise. They know they're catering to a niche market and they're content doing so. And if they don't get a publisher, they are prepared to self-publish to see this vision become a reality.*
right there prove it will release no matter what when who the hell knows there stubbern
If the game is basically done, then there's no point in even doing a beta test at all. Might as well just release it over the summer and smoke WAR before it even has a chance.
I remember hearing about a game when I was in high school called "Dawn". They had forums, a beta sign-up, screen shots, videos, everything. The whole thing turned out to be a hoax in the end.
Ever since then, I've never believed in a game's chances of being released until I see a release date and the ability to pre-order a game from either EBgames or Amazon.com
If Darkfall turns out to be real, then it will smoke everything out there, assuming it delivers on all its promises.
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Haha! you know it!
Fun to get a group a friends together and go train busting, or on PvP servers snare some cocky druid or bard trying to train some innocent levelers and watch them get trampled by their own trains.
In my own opinion i do not think instancing is all that bad...i mean i played EverQuest 1 for like 5 years, had no problem zoning...actually the game would suck with out it because you damn near could not drop aggro unless you were an FD class
I agree with you its a matter of choice. Also played the games you mention above and enjoyed them from start but its just no good endgame in those games, its more levels and new forever grinding in new dungeons. Those games becomes boring quite fast as i see it and feel it. Myself i prefer a dynamic player driven world like Darkfall before instances like in AoC. I want total freedom and i prefer to be involved in a game like Darkfall with all its amazing features. Just gotta hope they deliver what they promised.=)
And on the graphic issue, graphics isnt just about polygons, its also a matter of style. I prefer Darkfall style and hopefully the lower polygon counts will make the game run alot better then AoC in large epic battles and that you dont need the latest computer to perform well.
Look at these latest ingame screenies, just amazing how well the developed :
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_07?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_04?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_07?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mahirim_10?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mahirim_02?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/alfar_07?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mahirim_05?full=1
Just some of the new screenies we got yesterday.=)
Some comparison btw 2006 and 2008 screenies: Elf town screenies-
2006- http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/javaw_2006_11_01_04_07_13_0?full=1
2008- http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_01?full=1
Its like a new game graphic wise.=)
hehe sorry to be every other post but this thread has me interested.
I really like those Pictures of Darkfall...really shows how imaginative the creators are. My only problem is the 2D branches in the trees, otherwise ill be trying Darkfall out as well when and if it releases.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but current Darkfall graphics are at least 3-4 years behind the times and not getting updated anytime soon.
Small team means they have to cut quality. You can't do a MMO today with 25-30 people, at least and not have decent graphics and features.
What you really need is a new set of eyeglasses. The only MMORPG game under development that can compete with Darkfall graphics is AoC. AoC have more polygons but i prefer Darkfall graphic style any day compared to AoC one. Love the dark, realistic and gothic style Darkfall delivers. Just awsome.
Imo you cannot have both top graphics and lagfree PvP outside an instance. If you like to PvP 20v20, it could work fine, if you want 200vs200 zoneless, it is impossible with the technology available.
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exactully why you think AOc is a pathed piss of crap
I'm not a big fan of Darkfall's graphics either, and think LOTRO and VG are MUCH better. With that said, graphics definately don't make the game - IMO LOTRO as a game is even worse than WOW, even though it look 1000 times better, and VG's PVP isn't anything to get excited about (although it does sh** all over LOTRO + WOW).
I do believe DF graphics are an improvement over WAR however, though definately not on par with AOC.
In the end, I am not interested in DF for it's graphics, hell, I'm still playing AC1, and along with UO believe these to still be the best games I have ever played.
good pvp >> graphics
Can you show me an ingame video of darkfall graphics?......maybe a fight scene or something?
ok just some guy doing his washing up then?
atm all you are doing is posting a picture of a "house" and saying.."man darkfall pawns AoC"
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
df: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/javaw_2006_11_27_20_52_02_91
vs
community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_9.jpg
no contest AoC wins
lets try one more
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/javaw_2006_11_20_01_18_42_0
vs
AOC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_2.jpg
dont for get to make the AoC pics bigger by clicking on them.
again no contest AoC wins hands down.
darkfall is just not there yet, im not saying that it wont get there eventually but its not there now.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occure to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
Darkfall 2008 screenies -
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08?full=1
There loads of them on youtube for easy access. Many is older ones though. Last one was cities&locations. I suggest you download it though for better graphic quality. And understand that the ones you download isnt same quality either as the onscreen gameplay cause of its considerable video compression degradation. Heres a link to this latest video.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=50282
There is older videos from Devs showing battles and gameplay. Graphics have improved ALOT since those were made which you can see on the newer screenies.=)
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
Darkfall 2008 screenies -
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08?full=1
ok then lets use thoseDF :www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_13-v01.jpg
i'll let others judge because i am biased
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/02_acheroniangate.jpg
round 3
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/female_hox_big.jpg
and the final round.
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_2.jpg
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
Darkfall 2008 screenies -
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08?full=1
ok then lets use thoseDF :www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_13-v01.jpg
i'll let others judge because i am biased
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/02_acheroniangate.jpg
round 3
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/female_hox_big.jpg
and the final round.
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_2.jpg
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
You cant really say that AoC will look bad on lower settings because we arnt really sure yet. And anyone who is cant tell us without breaking NDA. So its nearly impossible to say that Darkfall is superior since AoC runs well on high machines because it can also run well on mid range machines.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
Darkfall 2008 screenies -
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08?full=1
ok then lets use thoseDF :www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_13-v01.jpg
i'll let others judge because i am biased
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/02_acheroniangate.jpg
round 3
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/female_hox_big.jpg
and the final round.
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_2.jpg
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
the computer that i am buying for AoC costs 789.00 USD and i work at gamestop and make very little money im about as average as they come.and AoC graphics > DF graphics = technical superiority
i don't have anything from DF that shows what the game play will be like so i cant make the decision on which game is better game play wise. also this thread isn't about that its about graphics and graphics alone
Will see. The higher polygon counts in AoC will make alot more lag on average computers then a low polygon graphic like Darkfalls. So i think the Darkfall playable graphic on average computers will be owning AoC graphic on same computer. What does it count that you can have supergraphic when most cant see it cause their computers cant handle it? And i think Darkfall won 4-0 on those screenies.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
Darkfall 2008 screenies -
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08?full=1
ok then lets use thoseDF :www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_13-v01.jpg
i'll let others judge because i am biased
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/02_acheroniangate.jpg
round 3
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/female_hox_big.jpg
and the final round.
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_2.jpg
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
the computer that i am buying for AoC costs 789.00 USD and i work at gamestop and make very little money im about as average as they come.and AoC graphics > DF graphics = technical superiority
i don't have anything from DF that shows what the game play will be like so i cant make the decision on which game is better game play wise. also this thread isn't about that its about graphics and graphics alone
My last answer was all about graphics. I doubt very much youre computer will handle AoC epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time. And youre computer would have alot more chance handling that on a low polygon graphic game like Darkfall. Just imagine to make such genious graphics with such a low polygon count as Darkfall devs have succeded to do. Thats why i think they is way more technical superior. They have a chance making epic battles less lagable. See my point?
I can't believe there are 7 pages on this subject.
AoC is a real game. That pretty much ends it all right there.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
Darkfall 2008 screenies -
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08?full=1
ok then lets use thoseDF :www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_13-v01.jpg
i'll let others judge because i am biased
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/02_acheroniangate.jpg
round 3
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/female_hox_big.jpg
and the final round.
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_2.jpg
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
the computer that i am buying for AoC costs 789.00 USD and i work at gamestop and make very little money im about as average as they come.and AoC graphics > DF graphics = technical superiority
i don't have anything from DF that shows what the game play will be like so i cant make the decision on which game is better game play wise. also this thread isn't about that its about graphics and graphics alone
My last answer was all about graphics. I doubt very much youre computer will handle AoC epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time. And youre computer would have alot more chance handling that on a low polygon graphic game like Darkfall. Just imagine to make such genious graphics with such a low polygon count as Darkfall devs have succeded to do. Thats why i think they is way more technical superior. They have a chance making epic battles less lagable. See my point?
you dont have enough information to make those statements.you dont know how AoC will run with anything at all and even if you did 80-90% of my average time ingame wont be having epic megabatles, it will be questing and the like which my 8800gt, 2 gigs of dual channel ram and my quad core procesor will handle just fine.
also, you dont really know how any thing will work in DF on a realistic level because you havent seen any thing worth talking about. i have seen all of the video/screenshots there are to see about this game and a list of all of the features that the game has to offer, but the game isnt close enough to any thing (beta, or launch) for me to tell if this game is worth my time.
yes it will do some innovative things and yes it very well beat the pants off of AoC
but i can't see how you are so gung ho about a game that's best points are rumors.
Why did you take 2 Darkfall screenies from 2006 when there is like 70 from 2008? And graphics is not only about polygon counts, its also about graphic style and there Darkfall owns AoC in my eyes. When i see Darkfall screenies i wanna jump right in and play, that feeling never occur to me when i see AoC ones. Darkfall ones look so much more alive and the athmosphere is just better. Darkfall graphic style owns AoC.
Darkfall 2008 screenies -
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02?full=1
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08?full=1
ok then lets use thoseDF :www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_13-v01.jpg
i'll let others judge because i am biased
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/mirdain_06
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/02_acheroniangate.jpg
round 3
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_02
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/female_hox_big.jpg
and the final round.
DF: www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_08
vs
AoC: community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/ageofconan_gdc_2.jpg
i am not saying that darkfall is a bad game its definitely getting a lot better that it was and my be closer to coming out but from a purely physical standpoint it is technically inferior to AoC for now anyway.
So you mean AoC is technical superior cause they make graphics that will be unplayable on hi settings for the common player? Aye that sure is superiority.=) The normal player with an average computer will have to set down the available graphics to very poor quality if he ever gonna be able to play it. And not to mention the epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time, imagine the lag in a game like AoC with that hi of a polygon counts.
Darkfall on the other hand have very low polygon counts so id say Darkfall is the smarter ones here with superior technology.
And remember, good gameplay is more important then graphics. And gameplay is always better with less lag.
the computer that i am buying for AoC costs 789.00 USD and i work at gamestop and make very little money im about as average as they come.and AoC graphics > DF graphics = technical superiority
i don't have anything from DF that shows what the game play will be like so i cant make the decision on which game is better game play wise. also this thread isn't about that its about graphics and graphics alone
My last answer was all about graphics. I doubt very much youre computer will handle AoC epic battles with hundreds of players on screen at same time. And youre computer would have alot more chance handling that on a low polygon graphic game like Darkfall. Just imagine to make such genious graphics with such a low polygon count as Darkfall devs have succeded to do. Thats why i think they is way more technical superior. They have a chance making epic battles less lagable. See my point?
you dont have enough information to make those statements.you dont know how AoC will run with anything at all and even if you did 80-90% of my average time ingame wont be having epic megabatles, it will be questing and the like which my 8800gt, 2 gigs of dual channel ram and my quad core procesor will handle just fine.
also, you dont really know how any thing will work in DF on a realistic level because you havent seen any thing worth talking about. i have seen all of the video/screenshots there are to see about this game and a list of all of the features that the game has to offer, but the game isnt close enough to any thing (beta, or launch) for me to tell if this game is worth my time.
yes it will do some innovative things and yes it very well beat the pants off of AoC
but i can't see how you are so gung ho about a game that's best points are rumors.
I think its a very qualified guess that a game with hi polygons like AoC will need a better computer to run the hi end graphics, or?
You wonder why im gung ho about a game thats best points are rumors? I seen all videos on Darkfall, even the fanmade ones which many is very good. I recommend this one though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiIY8tg2qBs . Read all info about the game there is to be known since 2001. Youre in for a surprice according Darkfall beta. If you follow the game closely and read what the developers inform us about you would be as "gung ho" as i am. There is info to be read about Darkfall where all features is in, the graphics is as good as AoC, and you know what, devs already informed us the game is very close done. They is just gonna take that final decision whether to selfpublish or not. So you see, Darkfall is very close to beta if you trust in what the devs is informing us.
From 11th of januari 2008 http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/2796-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-21-Summary-Status : [QUOTE] Tasos Flambouras :
Overall, we have a near complete implementation of the game, speaking of the technology and our feature list. A few things that are not implemented yet but in the works are some clan controls, the environment system, and some AI optimizations. The Darkfall AI resembles Quake bots in the Darkfall context of course. They are not the stupid predictable AI you meet in most MMOs, waiting around to meet their fate. They challenge the player and help train him since they behave like someone's controlling them. A new tabbed message system is also being implemented where you can move and arrange your tabs anywhere and any way you like. It's full of cool features like for example you can drag and drop items in there to show someone their stats, or you can arrange for your kill messages to pop up FPS style in the middle of your screen etc.
We're running the game through proper QA testing at the moment, and doing full optimizations to make sure everything will run smoothly even when demands on the game are high.
Content of course is demanding a lot of our attention, and at the moment we're building and placing infrastructure like roads, towers etc, still adding quests, and art assets for these are continually being made. Sounds are being added to everything and more effects on spells and wherever else they're needed. [/QUOTE]
So you see, beta isnt that far away at all. My guess is beta before fall 2008 and if all goes well a release end 2008 or early 2009.
May I suggest you get one of these.. HATS FOR YOUR JUNK
Beta tests are generally run for a couple of years before release. WAR isn't even going to be released before the near end of 2008, and that game has been in heavy development and beta testing for quite some time now.
Darkfall fans have been touting this game for years, and all the while the rest of the sane (if it can be so called) MMO community have been playing and enjoying other games without having to compare them to some fictitious nonsense that will finally have all the features that people have been clamoring for in an MMORPG.
So go ahead, compare Darkfall graphics to AoC graphics and argue about poly count and make unsupported claims about how AoC's battles will be laggy. At least at the end of the day, AoC fans will have a game to play.
Beta tests are generally run for a couple of years before release. WAR isn't even going to be released before the near end of 2008, and that game has been in heavy development and beta testing for quite some time now.
Darkfall fans have been touting this game for years, and all the while the rest of the sane (if it can be so called) MMO community have been playing and enjoying other games without having to compare them to some fictitious nonsense that will finally have all the features that people have been clamoring for in an MMORPG.
So go ahead, compare Darkfall graphics to AoC graphics and argue about poly count and make unsupported claims about how AoC's battles will be laggy. At least at the end of the day, AoC fans will have a game to play.
you know why they have to test 1 or 2 years because they go to beta with hardly any of the features in, so they are still putting features in. Well the testers are retesting system that keep breaking after each new patch to add something else so its rinse and repeat. darkfall Q/A team is doing this before hand so all darkfall will need is ballancing and stable stress testing. Hoping nothing major goes wrong its better to start beta with a release ready game then a game thats still has like 1/4 of its features this is why 2005 darkfall beta was cancelled because it woulda hurt the game more than it would helped at that point in time so instead of paying for server to host people and run the beta. all there time is concentrated on making darkfall not pring not beta testing getting the game ready tog oto beta so yea they have been telling the truth 2-3 years ago it was ready for beta but it probly would have been with out many features in and it would hurt the game more than it woulda help get that throw your thick heads
quote from taso
*"We want the beta to be almost finished before we show it to the world." so yea i bet you beta will be starting here sooner than most people think.
also quote fromt he interviewer in 2006
*Although the game draws much inspiration from Ultima Online and Shadowbane, unlike both of those MMOs, they don't plan on releasing it until they are content that it's a finished product.They are making the game that they have always wanted to play and they will not compromise. They know they're catering to a niche market and they're content doing so. And if they don't get a publisher, they are prepared to self-publish to see this vision become a reality.*
right there prove it will release no matter what when who the hell knows there stubbern
If the game is basically done, then there's no point in even doing a beta test at all. Might as well just release it over the summer and smoke WAR before it even has a chance.
I remember hearing about a game when I was in high school called "Dawn". They had forums, a beta sign-up, screen shots, videos, everything. The whole thing turned out to be a hoax in the end.
Ever since then, I've never believed in a game's chances of being released until I see a release date and the ability to pre-order a game from either EBgames or Amazon.com
If Darkfall turns out to be real, then it will smoke everything out there, assuming it delivers on all its promises.