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Everything about this game is much better than anything I've played MMO wise. It's really a shame it had all of those launch issues. However, something is bothering me about it. If I do all the work to get to level 50, are they going to close it down?
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If this is the best you've ever played, you need to get out and play more games.
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Vanguard is a very good game, had it been released in it's current state it would have done much better.
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No, this game will not close down anytime soon. There is enough of a fanbase to keep it going. Whether or not there will be anything more than one or two game updates per year (i.e. an expansion) remains to be seen.
Currently playing: No MMOs. They all suck.
I'd wager since SWG is still running and has a dev team Vanguard will be around for a while too and probably continue to get new content.
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Sad but true.
If the OP meant fantasy based MMOs, well, I'd have to agree with the OP.
Currently playing: No MMOs. They all suck.
I did mean fantasy based. I think EVE-online is the best MMO of all time, imo. I have three accounts in eve. But the Vanguard diplomacy system is just awesome. I love the crafting, too.
you need to play more MMOs...or better ones
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Originally posted by varrius (the OP)you need to play more MMOs...or better ones
I did mean fantasy based. I think EVE-online is the best MMO of all time, imo. I have three accounts in eve. But the Vanguard diplomacy system is just awesome. I love the crafting, too.
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As usual, you didn't bother to read the entire thread, the OP already acknowledged that he likes another game more.
Just jumping on the trolling bandwagon for just about everything these days....Do you even play MMOs? Do you have anything positive to say about any of them? Everywhere I see your post its just doom and gloom about them.
Peggle is a fine game you know. I don't believe they have forums to troll however....
this game is my number two favorite mmo I have ever played after EVE. I read tons of bad stuff about it but was intrigued by it enough to drop 20 bucks on it to give it a try and have been pleasantly surprised. I have played in no particular order
UO, Lineage, Lineage 2, WOW, Everquest, Everquest 2, SWG, Tabula Rasa, FF XI, COX/COV, LOTRO, Second Life, AO, Planetside, Maple Story, DAoC, Darkeden, Dofus, D&D Online, Dungeon Runners, Fury, Knight Online, Mabinogi(Beta), PotBS (beta), Requiem: Bloodymare(Beta), RF online and so forth.
and yes I have no life.
this is however only my opinion and I'm sure everyone knows what they say about opinions.
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I've played many MMORPGs and I have had this much fun since the early days of EQ1. The populations are on the rise, the game is much improved and there seems to be much more planned for this game. So I very much doubt it will be shut down.
Ive just bought it, after 2 yrs of wow i need something new.
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Played: Most current and extinct MMO's - 18 Years in....
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I guess vanguard is the only mmo you played,or you must be on some realy potent stuff,wich will probably kill you in the next few days.
I guess vanguard is the only mmo you played,or you must be on some realy potent stuff,wich will probably kill you in the next few days.
Ok, Kyleran, Enigma, airstrike and finally terranah.
What games is appropriate to think is fun?
As according to you if someone is liking something you guys don't, they are "stupid".
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
I guess vanguard is the only mmo you played,or you must be on some realy potent stuff,wich will probably kill you in the next few days.
Ok, Kyleran, Enigma and now airstrike.
What games is appropriate to think is fun?
As according to you if someone is liking something you guys don't, they are "stupid".
Plus if they have even played Vanguard they have probably not played it since the horrible launch so they have no idea what the game is like now.
Maybe they should make a Vanguard Refugees forum so these guys have somewhere to spout their anger and lack of actual information. It is working pretty good for the SWG guys.
It is ok if you hate Vanguard, but its also ok that other dont.
I guess vanguard is the only mmo you played,or you must be on some realy potent stuff,wich will probably kill you in the next few days.
Ok, Kyleran, Enigma and now airstrike.
What games is appropriate to think is fun?
As according to you if someone is liking something you guys don't, they are "stupid".
Plus if they have even played Vanguard they have probably not played it since the horrible launch so they have no idea what the game is like now.
Maybe they should make a Vanguard Refugees forum so these guys have somewhere to spout their anger and lack of actual information. It is working pretty good for the SWG guys.
It is ok if you hate Vanguard, but its also ok that other dont.
Good idea.
Even in the vanguard official forums people are stating how much Vanguard has improved.
http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=30047
http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=30641
My reason for leaving the game was the silly pvp. Granted its really a pve game with pvp duct taped to it as an after thought, but thats also affected the population on the pvp server. It washard to want to stick around when there are few people to kill, er I mean group with...
Vanguard is vastly improved, there isn't a whole lot to hate about the game now, but some people will always see this game as it was at release.
It's worth checking out (again).
I doubt EVERYTHING about this game is much better than anything else.
1)It's low on endgame content.
2)Diplomacy is pretty useless. It's not really incorporated into the world.
3)Some think crafting is useless since, named item drops have had their item level increased by 10!
4)Hitching
5)Character models are shit.
6)On screen character performance is shit.
7)Some animations are horrible.
8)Plenty enough bugs and broken quests.
9)Default UI is clunky and ugly.
10)Font is horrible.
11)Helmets are mostly ugly.
12)Normal mapping can sometimes make the world look unreal and ugly.
13)Normal mapping is needed to keep mountains from looking like shit.
14)Clothing and textures are underwhelming.
FYI: I've been joining the game on and off since May07. I just recently canceled my account, and waiting for GU6 at least this time.
1)It's low on endgame content.
2)Diplomacy is pretty useless. It's not really incorporated into the world.
3)Some think crafting is useless since, named item drops have had their item level increased by 10!
4)Hitching
5)Character models are shit.
6)On screen character performance is shit.
7)Some animations are horrible.
8)Plenty enough bugs and broken quests.
9)Default UI is clunky and ugly.
10)Font is horrible.
11)Helmets are mostly ugly.
12)Normal mapping can sometimes make the world look unreal and ugly.
13)Normal mapping is needed to keep mountains from looking like shit.
14)Clothing and textures are underwhelming.
FYI: I've been joining the game on and off since May07. I just recently canceled my account, and waiting for GU6 at least this time. I think almost everything you've listed here is due to be fixed or changed, isn't it?
I imagine by GU6 from your last comment.
I think almost everything you've listed here is due to be fixed or changed, isn't it?
I just have to comment on this, that if it's a year old game and is has this many major faults that are due to be changed. Then shouldn't we all agree that there is something seriously wrong with this game.
I don't mean now that Vanguard wouldn't also have it's good sides, as it has also much good in it. It just would deserve a larger dedicated team to support and upgrade it, so that it could really be fixed and some time become a good game.
As it is I don't think it can be considered good, it has its fans just because there isn't any similar and good game available.
this thread makes me miss my Raki Ranger. Vanguard did annoy me a lot with bugs and crappy performance, but I miss the game world and my characters for sure.
Thats possible but many of the points on that list are subjective based on personal taste. I think many games look and play like garbage but thats my opinion.
So out of that 14 point list 3 maybe 4 are actually technically valid the rest are based on opinion and individual taste attempting to be passed off as fact.
What turns me off Vanguard;
Saying that I will try the trial when/if its released but till then Vanguard is off my MMO radar.
The current owners of Vanguard, have a different idea about the direction the game should take. They are the owners, thats their right.
I used to pay them to play. I stopped paying them, because that direction looked and smelled an awful lot like a sewage filled stagnant cesspool to me. That is my right.
It's not worth checking out. (ever)
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1. If someone cares for graphics so much that it decides about what game he's playing, he should play egoshooters and not roleplaying games.
2. I cant help people that arent impressed with Vanguards art and graphics. For me, its much more than I ever asked for. The viewing distances you can have in this game are simply amazing. And the various races have been matched beautifully, for example, the halfling houses are done exactly right.
3. People who want visually perfect combat should play, guess what, damn egoshooters. Combat in Vanguard is simply superb; I keep wondering how I will ever be able to stand a game without these combat features. I frankly dont even have time to check the combat animations, because I have so much else to do.
4. Sorry, but I dont care for animal races.