The first 13 levels shows more than enough. It shows combat, quests, story, class development. It is a preview, not a play everything we have for free event. People will have a good idea of whether they want to play or not from those first 13 levels. If they can't get through 13 levels, and be wanting more, they wouldn't be subscribing if you let them play to 80.
It is a preview, and a stress test. What they are showing is fine for that.
lol -how naive are you ? U think even if ppl get to lvl 80 in open beta they wont buy the game ? Well... then it kinda proves a point doesn't it? Subscription remember ... longterm gameplay....
But hey - u fanboys will get your share of dissapointments for the endgame content Cause at this point there isn't any. So... game is "open beta" material for the first 13 lvls. Rest isn't up to the standard to go out to public. And there are 3 weeks to release.
Its sad to see ppl here defend a company that is trying to hide they are gonna be releasing not even half finished game. And the sadest part is that ppl like u are actually showing devs this is perfectly acceptable in the MMORPG genre.
BTW - Have you guys patched ur GTA4 yet with 1gb patch ? Ur morons.... u really are.
GTA hasn't been different or innovative since GTA3, not to mention its an adult game marketed to teens and kids because they have the short attention span needed to actually have fun carjacking npc's. Go back to Hello Kitty Island and stay the fuck out of this thread.
Edit: Also, what MMO game has ever released its end game content for an open beta?
lololololol - You do know that endgame content means right ? Its the e n d game. ATM Funcom is promising players something that they havn't in game. Will it even work ? Who knows... Noone has tested it...
Again - u prove the point of what MMO players are turning into. "Yes we are fine as long as the character can walk at launch ! "
Shut up - Realise that comments like this is affectig not just you but possibly millions of ppl that have to live with unfinished and buggy games at release. And that includes alot of titles that wont ever stand under half of what the devs "PROMISED" at start.
Man, all the people bitching and moaning saying Funcom won't drop NDA because they have something to hide, and now when Funcom drops it, they're nowhere to be seen. Amazing.
Amazing. NDA is still not lifted. Keep bitching.
We will hold the Closed Beta NDA for everyone but journalists until launch, but you are allowed to openly communicate about your experiences up to level 13,
The highlighted tells me expect some reviews from gaming websites the next few days.
It also tells me that "selected" sites will be allowed to make reviews - based on something diffrent than what the beta testers are going through. Probably those sites that have been invited for coffee with Funcom last 3 years and have made the nicest previews so far. Go go fanboys.
If the Go Go fanboys comment was directed at me, you read way to much into what I posted. I simply commented on the fact that the game will have reviews popping up in the next couple days. Biased or not.
It was not directed to you. It was directed to the journalist fanboys that funcom is now handpicking to make sure they will get the right outcome. Ofc it will be biased. Cause the unbiased reviwers will not even be allowed to test it.
The first 13 levels shows more than enough. It shows combat, quests, story, class development. It is a preview, not a play everything we have for free event. People will have a good idea of whether they want to play or not from those first 13 levels. If they can't get through 13 levels, and be wanting more, they wouldn't be subscribing if you let them play to 80.
It is a preview, and a stress test. What they are showing is fine for that.
lol -how naive are you ? U think even if ppl get to lvl 80 in open beta they wont buy the game ? Well... then it kinda proves a point doesn't it? Subscription remember ... longterm gameplay....
But hey - u fanboys will get your share of dissapointments for the endgame content Cause at this point there isn't any. So... game is "open beta" material for the first 13 lvls. Rest isn't up to the standard to go out to public. And there are 3 weeks to release.
Its sad to see ppl here defend a company that is trying to hide they are gonna be releasing not even half finished game. And the sadest part is that ppl like u are actually showing devs this is perfectly acceptable in the MMORPG genre.
BTW - Have you guys patched ur GTA4 yet with 1gb patch ? Ur morons.... u really are.
GTA hasn't been different or innovative since GTA3, not to mention its an adult game marketed to teens and kids because they have the short attention span needed to actually have fun carjacking npc's. Go back to Hello Kitty Island and stay the fuck out of this thread.
Edit: Also, what MMO game has ever released its end game content for an open beta?
lololololol - You do know that endgame content means right ? Its the e n d game. ATM Funcom is promising players something that they havn't in game. Will it even work ? Who knows... Noone has tested it...
Again - u prove the point of what MMO players are turning into. "Yes we are fine as long as the character can walk at launch ! "
Shut up - Realise that comments like this is affectig not just you but possibly millions of ppl that have to live with unfinished and buggy games at release. And that includes alot of titles that wont ever stand under half of what the devs "PROMISED" at start.
You, sir, need to be the one to...close your mouth.
You continue to jump on every AoC thread you can find to bash it with you presumptious thoughts which you like to present as facts.
Fact is: You have no idea what End-Game will be in the game when it is released. You have no idea how well it is tested. You have no idea how well it will be implemented. You don't even have an idea of what has been tested in Beta or not (and yes, I know that due to your seriously outdated supposed Beta-Info you keep spewing up).
And the best part about it? If someone calls you out on one of your blatant lies, you just step away, ignore that post and move on to the next thread or next topic to continue your bashing.
I am frankly tired of reading your posts and pointing out all the little tidbits of misinformation and doomsaying you weave into them, but on the other hand, I know that you will simply post some "lololol you faboi, naive etcetc" back at me, which coincidentally seems to be your only defense against people who post their own opinions as opposed to yours, but well, this had to get off my chest.
Enjoy your little rantings here. I for one will wait until the game is released and afterwards to point fingers. And ohhhhh, guess what, if FC does fail to deliver, I won't deny that. At least though, I will be basing my complaints on FACTS and not half-cooked assumptions.
We will hold the Closed Beta NDA for everyone but journalists until launch, but you are allowed to openly communicate about your experiences up to level 13. We still have many additions and improvements to the game prior to launch, as you will surely see by playing in the next couple of weeks. Even the early experience will improve greatly in the upcoming period, so we urge you to speak about it in public should you wish to.
The closed beta NDA, you know, the opinion of those who actually played the game and got to high enough levels to give objective reviews, will not be lifted until launch. Testers are, however, encouraged to talk about, and I'm paraphrasing here, the additions and greatly improved early experience in public. What can I say, Funcom sure knows how to keep the naysayers down. Obviously Vanguard taught everyone a lesson.
And since we can talk about it now, well, the first 13 (out of 80) levels feel like a very restrictive single player RPG and go by extremely fast (probably not news to anyone by now). If you have a computer that can run NASA flight simulations and directional melee combat, two or three set paths with pretty vegatation and cheesy cut scenes are enough to sell you on a game then you deserve to lose the 50 bucks. It's still better than those who are pre-ordering blindly though.
Call me a troll if you want, but I must say that I too used to be an AoC fanboi once, check my previous posts if you wish.
The first 13 levels shows more than enough. It shows combat, quests, story, class development. It is a preview, not a play everything we have for free event. People will have a good idea of whether they want to play or not from those first 13 levels. If they can't get through 13 levels, and be wanting more, they wouldn't be subscribing if you let them play to 80.
It is a preview, and a stress test. What they are showing is fine for that.
lol -how naive are you ? U think even if ppl get to lvl 80 in open beta they wont buy the game ? Well... then it kinda proves a point doesn't it? Subscription remember ... longterm gameplay....
But hey - u fanboys will get your share of dissapointments for the endgame content Cause at this point there isn't any. So... game is "open beta" material for the first 13 lvls. Rest isn't up to the standard to go out to public. And there are 3 weeks to release.
Its sad to see ppl here defend a company that is trying to hide they are gonna be releasing not even half finished game. And the sadest part is that ppl like u are actually showing devs this is perfectly acceptable in the MMORPG genre.
BTW - Have you guys patched ur GTA4 yet with 1gb patch ? Ur morons.... u really are.
GTA hasn't been different or innovative since GTA3, not to mention its an adult game marketed to teens and kids because they have the short attention span needed to actually have fun carjacking npc's. Go back to Hello Kitty Island and stay the fuck out of this thread.
Edit: Also, what MMO game has ever released its end game content for an open beta?
lololololol - You do know that endgame content means right ? Its the e n d game. ATM Funcom is promising players something that they havn't in game. Will it even work ? Who knows... Noone has tested it...
Again - u prove the point of what MMO players are turning into. "Yes we are fine as long as the character can walk at launch ! "
Shut up - Realise that comments like this is affectig not just you but possibly millions of ppl that have to live with unfinished and buggy games at release. And that includes alot of titles that wont ever stand under half of what the devs "PROMISED" at start.
First, with the closed beta NDA still enforced you can do nothing but speculate on whether it exists or can be tested.
Second, other than sieges and raids what else have they promised? PvP usually ends up being a focus of end game content other than raiding, and if you expect an MMO to have raid content available at launch then, you're retarded. The biggest dog on the market didn't even add Molten Core for 5 or 6 months after launch, people had a period of being bored with nothing to do other than an instance or two, and world pvp.
I played in the Lord of the Rings closed beta and nearly everything from 45 up wasn't in the game yet. It's not like people are pre-ordering because they're going to hit 80 in 2-3 days and be pissed that there isn't anything to do. Frankly games like WoW, LoTRO, and Everquest II tend to release content faster than your average player who isn't 40 and living in his mothers basement can keep up with. When I hit 70 the 2nd week of the BC exp, they had already announced the next pve and pvp patch and I hadn't stepped foot in Kara or Gruul, yet people on my server had cleared them already. I think people like you who bitch and moan about everything they can find are the real problem with the state of gaming in general.
To be fair the LOTRO open beta was limited to level 15 and that game had a very good launch. It needed some love at upper levels and such, but still a good example of how to release a game.
Hearing the NDA for above level 13 will not be lifted until release is a bit disturbing.
[quote]We will hold the Closed Beta NDA for everyone but journalists until launch, but you are allowed to openly communicate about your experiences up to level 13. We still have many additions and improvements to the game prior to launch, as you will surely see by playing in the next couple of weeks. Even the early experience will improve greatly in the upcoming period, so we urge you to speak about it in public should you wish to.[/quote]
The closed beta NDA, you know, those who actually played the game and got to high enough levels to give objective reviews, will not be lifted until launch. Testers are enouraged to talk about, and I'm paraphrasing here, the additions and greatly improved early experience in public. What can I say, Funcom sure knows how to shutdown the naysayers from their open beta. Obviously Vanguard taught everyone a lesson.
And since we can talk about it now, well, the first 13 (out of 80) levels feel like a very restrictive single player RPG and go by extremely fast. If you have a computer that can run NASA flight simulations and directional melee combat, two or three set paths with pretty vegatation and cheese cut scenes are enough to sell you on a game then you deserve to lose the 50 bucks. It's still better than those who are pre-ordering blindly though.
Call me a troll if you want, but I must say that I too used to be an AoC fanboi once, check my previous post if you wish.
That's too bad. I personally enjoyed the first 13 Levels quite immensely. Yes, the first 5 Levels are pathed more or less, though at the time I was too busy enjoying the scenery to care (which might change with the number of characters to start).
Still, once in Tortage I can't agree with you anymore. Even in Beta I often enough found people to group with, particularly when it came to the calssical "overfilled-newbie" Zone situations where everyone and their mother was waiting for the same mob to spawn and with the amount of quests available it was hard to feel...err, packed in.
Then again, that might be personal preference. I enjoyed the story-telling style and the gameplay rather a lot, but as I have said repeatedly over the past, I don't think AoC will be for everyone in that regard. Doesn#t have to be either.
But hey, everyone's got games they will enjoy and others they won't, so there's not surprise.
To be fair the LOTRO open beta was limited to level 15 and that game had a very good launch. It needed some love at upper levels and such, but still a good example of how to release a game.
Hearing the NDA for above level 13 will not be lifted until release is a bit disturbing.
Aye I remember that as well. It is suspicious not to release the NDA for beyond 13, but I have noticed a pattern of tight locking from a lot of publishers for various games. I remember being psyched to play Smackdown vs. Raw 2008(I like fighting, shut up) and hearing about all the features and then finding them to be completely horrible when it came to execution. Another example I have is CoD 4, I remember hearing tidbits and playing the xbox beta and thinking it would be a niche game for tactical clans, but I was wrong about that by a huge margin. Publishers and developers are hiding the good and bad of their games in order to create hype, panic, and conversation, forcing impulse buys that may or may not be regretted.
To be fair the LOTRO open beta was limited to level 15 and that game had a very good launch. It needed some love at upper levels and such, but still a good example of how to release a game.
Hearing the NDA for above level 13 will not be lifted until release is a bit disturbing.
15 lvls of 50
13 lvls of 80
15 lvls in LOTRO got you into all diffrent starting areas of the game and the next after.
13 lvls in AOC will get you to.. the only starting area and thats it. Its all you get.
Like someone already said - LVLs 1-13 wont get any more linear than this
The first 13 levels shows more than enough. It shows combat, quests, story, class development. It is a preview, not a play everything we have for free event. People will have a good idea of whether they want to play or not from those first 13 levels.If they can't get through 13 levels,and be wanting more,they wouldn't be subscribing if you let them play to 80.
It is a preview, and a stress test. What they are showing is fine for that.
lol -how naive are you ? U think even if ppl get to lvl 80 in open beta they wont buy the game ?
Compare your highlighted dull-witted response to my highlighted section of my post ( which I used dual highlighters to emphasize my sentence structure for you ). If you can either not comprehend what I say before you quote me, or intentionally plan to twist my shit around when you quote me, then don't quote me.
There is no conspirency theory going on from me. Its just a fact that is staring everyone in the face. We all know it. Would any company hold back on content that can sell the game ? Nope. So there you have it. Only lvl 1-13 can sell AOC atm. Rest is up to the Fanboy journalists to spin.
No gamers want Vanguard again - We are seeing exactly the same pattern happening with AOC that happened with Vanguard. Testers are not only testing the game for devs - they are also testing it for the thousands or millions of players that are counting on them to let them know if game is something diffrent than the devs and media is making of it.
Players will hopefully make their own judgment based on abit more than what Funcom is saying. Cause if you want to learn about the history of Funcom and their MMOs then look at AO and u soon find out that FC has not much to do with players. Its all buisness.
The first 13 levels shows more than enough. It shows combat, quests, story, class development. It is a preview, not a play everything we have for free event. People will have a good idea of whether they want to play or not from those first 13 levels.If they can't get through 13 levels,and be wanting more,they wouldn't be subscribing if you let them play to 80.
It is a preview, and a stress test. What they are showing is fine for that.
lol -how naive are you ? U think even if ppl get to lvl 80 in open beta they wont buy the game ?
Compare your highlighted dull-witted response to my highlighted section of my post ( which I used dual highlighters to emphasize my sentence structure for you ). If you can either not comprehend what I say before you quote me, or intentionally plan to twist my shit around when you quote me, then don't quote me.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
Open beta = Stress Test They're just making things easier for themselves so things run smoother by the launch date. Too many people think beta means "preview". On that note, the whole point of beta testing is to find the problems and bugs so they can fix them.
Thought I'd quote myself ^ ^
Here's an excerpt from the email sent out by funcom to open beta testers
"First of all, remember that you are playing a beta version of Age of Conan, where we on purpose are stressing our servers to simulate a hectic launch environment. This means that you may experience technical issues as you start playing.
Simulating launch is what final stress testing is all about, but we will monitor all of this closely to make your experience as good as possible."
I swear there's more idiots that post on these forums then any other. My god!
Originally posted by Alan0n It was not directed to you. It was directed to the journalist fanboys that funcom is now handpicking to make sure they will get the right outcome. Ofc it will be biased. Cause the unbiased reviwers will not even be allowed to test it.
OK, I'm gonna stop you right there.
First of all, as one of the members of the press who is playing the beta and will be writing on it in future, I want to just let you know how odd your statement is. Press are generally invited into nearly every beta for nearly every game. More often than not, we're allowed to write about the games before the NDA is lifted for the general public. This isn't unusual. In fact, it's our job.
There are no conditions to our beta access and no requirements on what we write or even if we write at all. I'm not saying that people aren't going to say positive things. I don't know about you, but I am open to the possibility that this game is actually a good one, maybe even at higher levels. I honestly can't speak to that at this point as I've only played to level 9 so far. I have honestly enjoyed what I've seen and haven't had a single issue.
I can tell you this: If I were to come in here and tell you that it was awesome, without giving it the once-over it deserves, THEN I would be biased. Likewise, if I came in here without knowedge of the rest of the game and told you that it sucks, that would also be biased...
The point I'm making is that just because you don't agree with someone's opinion of a game doesn't make the press member who wrote it "biased".
No one's telling you not to have your own opinion. If you disagree with what I or any other game writer has to say, then great. That's your call. Just remember, not every game is for every person and you may not like a game that other enjoy. It doesn't make you wrong and it doesn't make them wrong. Free will is a wonderful thing.
The first 13 levels shows more than enough. It shows combat, quests, story, class development. It is a preview, not a play everything we have for free event. People will have a good idea of whether they want to play or not from those first 13 levels.If they can't get through 13 levels,and be wanting more,they wouldn't be subscribing if you let them play to 80.
It is a preview, and a stress test. What they are showing is fine for that.
lol -how naive are you ? U think even if ppl get to lvl 80 in open beta they wont buy the game ?
Compare your highlighted dull-witted response to my highlighted section of my post ( which I used dual highlighters to emphasize my sentence structure for you ). If you can either not comprehend what I say before you quote me, or intentionally plan to twist my shit around when you quote me, then don't quote me.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
I see I have to spell this out in baby steps for you. Please try to stay focused and follow along.
If you play the first 13 levels and you say to yourself "Wow, I like this and I want to play more!", then you can either pre-order based on that feeling OR you can say " I really like this game so far, but I'll wait 'til I know the rest is just as good." So, where exactly are you getting misled, fucked around, or duped?
If you play the first 13 levels or less, and you say " Man, this sucks. I don't even want to continue.", then what the fuck is getting to play to 40-50-60-70-80 going to do for you?
Do you comprehend what I'm getting at, now? Because I can't make it any damn simpler.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
Again - excuse me if I'm worng but the testers are paying for testing the game anyway ? Funcom had no say in Fileplanet getting the "package" ?
This is the new future of "open" betas. You pay for it - You download 13 gbs and then you play content that lasts for about 3-4 hours. But they - it is making money out of nothing so you think devs or gaming sites care ?
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
Again - excuse me if I'm worng but the testers are paying for testing the game anyway ? Funcom had no say in Fileplanet getting the "package" ?
This is the new future of "open" betas. You pay for it - You download 13 gbs and then you play content that lasts for about 3-4 hours. But they - it is making money out of nothing so you think devs or gaming sites care ?
Again, do you see what he's doing? He's completely ignoring Stradden's post prior to this and pounces on the one thing he -feels- secure about.
And you -are- wrong. Many of the people from FilePlanet testing AoC are not paying to test the game. They are paying to have a FilePlanet account. Which comes with many more things than just this beta and things these people are probably using and have been using for as long as they have been subscribed.
Everyone who simply paid to get into the beta...that's their decision, is it not? Stop making it look like FC twisted their arms to sign up. Particularly when there's now the SECOND contest to win -FREEEEE- Beta spots here on MMORPG.com alone.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
Again - excuse me if I'm worng but the testers are paying for testing the game anyway ? Funcom had no say in Fileplanet getting the "package" ?
This is the new future of "open" betas. You pay for it - You download 13 gbs and then you play content that lasts for about 3-4 hours. But they - it is making money out of nothing so you think devs or gaming sites care ?
As I said before >> Open Beta = Stress Test
The whole point of it is to simulate game launch to monitor things like server load etc.. Fileplanet has a pretty large sub base and is a perfect candidate for handling something like this. Another way to look at it is that this allows Funcom to devote more of it's resources working/polishing the game before the launch date. Jeez....
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
You dont think Funcom worked out a deal with fileplanet to get the keys for beta they are giving out? Nothing is free, im sure fileplanet gave a small donation to Funcom in the hopes they would sell a bunch of new accounts for poeple that wanted to dessperately try the game. Now I have no idea how good AoC is as Im not playing it and dont really plan to play it. The fact that the game is due out in a few weeks and they are keeping up the NDA still to me shows the game is unfinished and not worth buying at release. Think of Wow if you could only post about the first 13 levels out of 70 then the game would be completly different than it ends up. First off the first 13 levels can be reached in one day of playing easily. Second there would be no mention of problems that occur at higher end, arena grinding, raiding issues, not enough 5 man content etc. Here we have Aoc a game that is supposed to promise a ton of features from what they have been telling poeple for the last year or so and now we find out they wont allow anyone to see them until after the game is released. If I hear from poeple I know that the game is really fun past lvls 1-13.... then I will consider buying it. But for now it sounds like they are trying to hard to hide things.
The first 13 levels shows more than enough. It shows combat, quests, story, class development. It is a preview, not a play everything we have for free event. People will have a good idea of whether they want to play or not from those first 13 levels.If they can't get through 13 levels,and be wanting more,they wouldn't be subscribing if you let them play to 80.
It is a preview, and a stress test. What they are showing is fine for that.
lol -how naive are you ? U think even if ppl get to lvl 80 in open beta they wont buy the game ?
Compare your highlighted dull-witted response to my highlighted section of my post ( which I used dual highlighters to emphasize my sentence structure for you ). If you can either not comprehend what I say before you quote me, or intentionally plan to twist my shit around when you quote me, then don't quote me.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
I see I have to spell this out in baby steps for you. Please try to stay focused and follow along.
If you play the first 13 levels and you say to yourself "Wow, I like this and I want to play more!", then you can either pre-order based on that feeling OR you can say " I really like this game so far, but I'll wait 'til I know the rest is just as good." So, where exactly are you getting misled, fucked around, or duped?
If you play the first 13 levels or less, and you say " Man, this sucks. I don't even want to continue.", then what the fuck is getting to play to 40-50-60-70-80 going to do for you?
Do you comprehend what I'm getting at, now? Because I can't make it any damn simpler.
Now u focus - really really hard and read the next few words over and over and over again till you get it.
Playing 40-50-60-70 -80 does alot. Not just for me - but for 100 of thousands of ppl that are thinking of buyijng this game. It shows that the game is ready for launch. That its the same finished product as GTA 4 was when it released few days ago.
But you really dont get it do you ? If players like the first 13 lvls and want to play more... they can't. The question is why ? Is it cause the 13+ lvls will reduce the likelyhood of the player buying the game ? Alot of ppl think so - And Im pretty sure the closed beta testers would confirm that at this point in time. 3 weeks before release. 3 weeks of a game that has been in prodution for 5 years.... was just in need for abit of "polish" this time last year - and can only show off 13 lvls for 50k paying "open" beta testers. Yes - sound really promising.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.
I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
You dont think Funcom worked out a deal with fileplanet to get the keys for beta they are giving out? Nothing is free, im sure fileplanet gave a small donation to Funcom in the hopes they would sell a bunch of new accounts for poeple that wanted to dessperately try the game. Now I have no idea how good AoC is as Im not playing it and dont really plan to play it. The fact that the game is due out in a few weeks and they are keeping up the NDA still to me shows the game is unfinished and not worth buying at release. Think of Wow if you could only post about the first 13 levels out of 70 then the game would be completly different than it ends up. First off the first 13 levels can be reached in one day of playing easily. Second there would be no mention of problems that occur at higher end, arena grinding, raiding issues, not enough 5 man content etc. Here we have Aoc a game that is supposed to promise a ton of features from what they have been telling poeple for the last year or so and now we find out they wont allow anyone to see them until after the game is released. If I hear from poeple I know that the game is really fun past lvls 1-13.... then I will consider buying it. But for now it sounds like they are trying to hard to hide things.
Funny that you bring up WoW.
You know...the game that didn't even have Molten Core when released? No Battlegrounds OR Arena's? Which had promised Housing in the first few content patches and never delievered?
Funny how people still enjoyed that game, eh? Even with horrible Server crashes all throughout the first month. So bad that they had to give out weeks worth of free play to the people to appease them. Loot-bug anyone? How long did it take them to fix it? Oh hey...could you even PLAY the first day? I think it took me about 12 hours to even create an account.
Stop pulling out WoW as a great launch with feature complete. Because it wasn't.
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But hey - u fanboys will get your share of dissapointments for the endgame content
Cause at this point there isn't any. So... game is "open beta" material for the first 13 lvls. Rest isn't up to the standard to go out to public. And there are 3 weeks to release.
Its sad to see ppl here defend a company that is trying to hide they are gonna be releasing not even half finished game. And the sadest part is that ppl like u are actually showing devs this is perfectly acceptable in the MMORPG genre.
BTW - Have you guys patched ur GTA4 yet with 1gb patch ? Ur morons.... u really are.
GTA hasn't been different or innovative since GTA3, not to mention its an adult game marketed to teens and kids because they have the short attention span needed to actually have fun carjacking npc's. Go back to Hello Kitty Island and stay the fuck out of this thread.
Edit: Also, what MMO game has ever released its end game content for an open beta?
lololololol - You do know that endgame content means right ? Its the e n d game. ATM Funcom is promising players something that they havn't in game. Will it even work ? Who knows... Noone has tested it...Again - u prove the point of what MMO players are turning into. "Yes we are fine as long as the character can walk at launch ! "
Shut up - Realise that comments like this is affectig not just you but possibly millions of ppl that have to live with unfinished and buggy games at release. And that includes alot of titles that wont ever stand under half of what the devs "PROMISED" at start.
Amazing. NDA is still not lifted. Keep bitching.
We will hold the Closed Beta NDA for everyone but journalists until launch, but you are allowed to openly communicate about your experiences up to level 13,
The highlighted tells me expect some reviews from gaming websites the next few days.
It also tells me that "selected" sites will be allowed to make reviews - based on something diffrent than what the beta testers are going through. Probably those sites that have been invited for coffee with Funcom last 3 years and have made the nicest previews so far. Go go fanboys.If the Go Go fanboys comment was directed at me, you read way to much into what I posted. I simply commented on the fact that the game will have reviews popping up in the next couple days. Biased or not.
It was not directed to you. It was directed to the journalist fanboys that funcom is now handpicking to make sure they will get the right outcome. Ofc it will be biased. Cause the unbiased reviwers will not even be allowed to test it.
But hey - u fanboys will get your share of dissapointments for the endgame content
Cause at this point there isn't any. So... game is "open beta" material for the first 13 lvls. Rest isn't up to the standard to go out to public. And there are 3 weeks to release.
Its sad to see ppl here defend a company that is trying to hide they are gonna be releasing not even half finished game. And the sadest part is that ppl like u are actually showing devs this is perfectly acceptable in the MMORPG genre.
BTW - Have you guys patched ur GTA4 yet with 1gb patch ? Ur morons.... u really are.
GTA hasn't been different or innovative since GTA3, not to mention its an adult game marketed to teens and kids because they have the short attention span needed to actually have fun carjacking npc's. Go back to Hello Kitty Island and stay the fuck out of this thread.
Edit: Also, what MMO game has ever released its end game content for an open beta?
lololololol - You do know that endgame content means right ? Its the e n d game. ATM Funcom is promising players something that they havn't in game. Will it even work ? Who knows... Noone has tested it...Again - u prove the point of what MMO players are turning into. "Yes we are fine as long as the character can walk at launch ! "
Shut up - Realise that comments like this is affectig not just you but possibly millions of ppl that have to live with unfinished and buggy games at release. And that includes alot of titles that wont ever stand under half of what the devs "PROMISED" at start.
You, sir, need to be the one to...close your mouth.You continue to jump on every AoC thread you can find to bash it with you presumptious thoughts which you like to present as facts.
Fact is: You have no idea what End-Game will be in the game when it is released. You have no idea how well it is tested. You have no idea how well it will be implemented. You don't even have an idea of what has been tested in Beta or not (and yes, I know that due to your seriously outdated supposed Beta-Info you keep spewing up).
And the best part about it? If someone calls you out on one of your blatant lies, you just step away, ignore that post and move on to the next thread or next topic to continue your bashing.
I am frankly tired of reading your posts and pointing out all the little tidbits of misinformation and doomsaying you weave into them, but on the other hand, I know that you will simply post some "lololol you faboi, naive etcetc" back at me, which coincidentally seems to be your only defense against people who post their own opinions as opposed to yours, but well, this had to get off my chest.
Enjoy your little rantings here. I for one will wait until the game is released and afterwards to point fingers. And ohhhhh, guess what, if FC does fail to deliver, I won't deny that. At least though, I will be basing my complaints on FACTS and not half-cooked assumptions.
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The closed beta NDA, you know, the opinion of those who actually played the game and got to high enough levels to give objective reviews, will not be lifted until launch. Testers are, however, encouraged to talk about, and I'm paraphrasing here, the additions and greatly improved early experience in public. What can I say, Funcom sure knows how to keep the naysayers down. Obviously Vanguard taught everyone a lesson.
And since we can talk about it now, well, the first 13 (out of 80) levels feel like a very restrictive single player RPG and go by extremely fast (probably not news to anyone by now). If you have a computer that can run NASA flight simulations and directional melee combat, two or three set paths with pretty vegatation and cheesy cut scenes are enough to sell you on a game then you deserve to lose the 50 bucks. It's still better than those who are pre-ordering blindly though.
Call me a troll if you want, but I must say that I too used to be an AoC fanboi once, check my previous posts if you wish.
But hey - u fanboys will get your share of dissapointments for the endgame content
Cause at this point there isn't any. So... game is "open beta" material for the first 13 lvls. Rest isn't up to the standard to go out to public. And there are 3 weeks to release.
Its sad to see ppl here defend a company that is trying to hide they are gonna be releasing not even half finished game. And the sadest part is that ppl like u are actually showing devs this is perfectly acceptable in the MMORPG genre.
BTW - Have you guys patched ur GTA4 yet with 1gb patch ? Ur morons.... u really are.
GTA hasn't been different or innovative since GTA3, not to mention its an adult game marketed to teens and kids because they have the short attention span needed to actually have fun carjacking npc's. Go back to Hello Kitty Island and stay the fuck out of this thread.
Edit: Also, what MMO game has ever released its end game content for an open beta?
lololololol - You do know that endgame content means right ? Its the e n d game. ATM Funcom is promising players something that they havn't in game. Will it even work ? Who knows... Noone has tested it...Again - u prove the point of what MMO players are turning into. "Yes we are fine as long as the character can walk at launch ! "
Shut up - Realise that comments like this is affectig not just you but possibly millions of ppl that have to live with unfinished and buggy games at release. And that includes alot of titles that wont ever stand under half of what the devs "PROMISED" at start.
First, with the closed beta NDA still enforced you can do nothing but speculate on whether it exists or can be tested.Second, other than sieges and raids what else have they promised? PvP usually ends up being a focus of end game content other than raiding, and if you expect an MMO to have raid content available at launch then, you're retarded. The biggest dog on the market didn't even add Molten Core for 5 or 6 months after launch, people had a period of being bored with nothing to do other than an instance or two, and world pvp.
I played in the Lord of the Rings closed beta and nearly everything from 45 up wasn't in the game yet. It's not like people are pre-ordering because they're going to hit 80 in 2-3 days and be pissed that there isn't anything to do. Frankly games like WoW, LoTRO, and Everquest II tend to release content faster than your average player who isn't 40 and living in his mothers basement can keep up with. When I hit 70 the 2nd week of the BC exp, they had already announced the next pve and pvp patch and I hadn't stepped foot in Kara or Gruul, yet people on my server had cleared them already. I think people like you who bitch and moan about everything they can find are the real problem with the state of gaming in general.
To be fair the LOTRO open beta was limited to level 15 and that game had a very good launch. It needed some love at upper levels and such, but still a good example of how to release a game.
Hearing the NDA for above level 13 will not be lifted until release is a bit disturbing.
Still, once in Tortage I can't agree with you anymore. Even in Beta I often enough found people to group with, particularly when it came to the calssical "overfilled-newbie" Zone situations where everyone and their mother was waiting for the same mob to spawn and with the amount of quests available it was hard to feel...err, packed in.
Then again, that might be personal preference. I enjoyed the story-telling style and the gameplay rather a lot, but as I have said repeatedly over the past, I don't think AoC will be for everyone in that regard. Doesn#t have to be either.
But hey, everyone's got games they will enjoy and others they won't, so there's not surprise.
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Aye I remember that as well. It is suspicious not to release the NDA for beyond 13, but I have noticed a pattern of tight locking from a lot of publishers for various games. I remember being psyched to play Smackdown vs. Raw 2008(I like fighting, shut up) and hearing about all the features and then finding them to be completely horrible when it came to execution. Another example I have is CoD 4, I remember hearing tidbits and playing the xbox beta and thinking it would be a niche game for tactical clans, but I was wrong about that by a huge margin. Publishers and developers are hiding the good and bad of their games in order to create hype, panic, and conversation, forcing impulse buys that may or may not be regretted.
AoC is not for everyone, that's for sure.
13 lvls of 80
15 lvls in LOTRO got you into all diffrent starting areas of the game and the next after.
13 lvls in AOC will get you to.. the only starting area and thats it. Its all you get.
Like someone already said - LVLs 1-13 wont get any more linear than this
Compare your highlighted dull-witted response to my highlighted section of my post ( which I used dual highlighters to emphasize my sentence structure for you ). If you can either not comprehend what I say before you quote me, or intentionally plan to twist my shit around when you quote me, then don't quote me.
Open beta with NDA still in effect for all level 13+ content
Open beta with a very low level cap
Open beta that is restricted to only 50K Fileplanet subscribers
I'm still going to buy the game and try it myself but if that doesn't set off alarm bells then you're either;
a) Not a MMORPG beta testing vet
b) A diehard AoC fanboi
This stuff is not even remotely normal for open betas
There is no conspirency theory going on from me. Its just a fact that is staring everyone in the face. We all know it. Would any company hold back on content that can sell the game ? Nope. So there you have it. Only lvl 1-13 can sell AOC atm. Rest is up to the Fanboy journalists to spin.
No gamers want Vanguard again - We are seeing exactly the same pattern happening with AOC that happened with Vanguard. Testers are not only testing the game for devs - they are also testing it for the thousands or millions of players that are counting on them to let them know if game is something diffrent than the devs and media is making of it.
Players will hopefully make their own judgment based on abit more than what Funcom is saying. Cause if you want to learn about the history of Funcom and their MMOs then look at AO and u soon find out that FC has not much to do with players. Its all buisness.
Compare your highlighted dull-witted response to my highlighted section of my post ( which I used dual highlighters to emphasize my sentence structure for you ). If you can either not comprehend what I say before you quote me, or intentionally plan to twist my shit around when you quote me, then don't quote me.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
Thought I'd quote myself ^ ^
Here's an excerpt from the email sent out by funcom to open beta testers
"First of all, remember that you are playing a beta version of Age of Conan, where we on purpose are stressing our servers to simulate a hectic launch environment. This means that you may experience technical issues as you start playing.
Simulating launch is what final stress testing is all about, but we will monitor all of this closely to make your experience as good as possible."
I swear there's more idiots that post on these forums then any other. My god!
First of all, as one of the members of the press who is playing the beta and will be writing on it in future, I want to just let you know how odd your statement is. Press are generally invited into nearly every beta for nearly every game. More often than not, we're allowed to write about the games before the NDA is lifted for the general public. This isn't unusual. In fact, it's our job.
There are no conditions to our beta access and no requirements on what we write or even if we write at all. I'm not saying that people aren't going to say positive things. I don't know about you, but I am open to the possibility that this game is actually a good one, maybe even at higher levels. I honestly can't speak to that at this point as I've only played to level 9 so far. I have honestly enjoyed what I've seen and haven't had a single issue.
I can tell you this: If I were to come in here and tell you that it was awesome, without giving it the once-over it deserves, THEN I would be biased. Likewise, if I came in here without knowedge of the rest of the game and told you that it sucks, that would also be biased...
The point I'm making is that just because you don't agree with someone's opinion of a game doesn't make the press member who wrote it "biased".
No one's telling you not to have your own opinion. If you disagree with what I or any other game writer has to say, then great. That's your call. Just remember, not every game is for every person and you may not like a game that other enjoy. It doesn't make you wrong and it doesn't make them wrong. Free will is a wonderful thing.
Cheers,
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Compare your highlighted dull-witted response to my highlighted section of my post ( which I used dual highlighters to emphasize my sentence structure for you ). If you can either not comprehend what I say before you quote me, or intentionally plan to twist my shit around when you quote me, then don't quote me.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
I see I have to spell this out in baby steps for you. Please try to stay focused and follow along.If you play the first 13 levels and you say to yourself "Wow, I like this and I want to play more!", then you can either pre-order based on that feeling OR you can say " I really like this game so far, but I'll wait 'til I know the rest is just as good." So, where exactly are you getting misled, fucked around, or duped?
If you play the first 13 levels or less, and you say " Man, this sucks. I don't even want to continue.", then what the fuck is getting to play to 40-50-60-70-80 going to do for you?
Do you comprehend what I'm getting at, now? Because I can't make it any damn simpler.
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
Again - excuse me if I'm worng but the testers are paying for testing the game anyway ? Funcom had no say in Fileplanet getting the "package" ?
This is the new future of "open" betas. You pay for it - You download 13 gbs and then you play content that lasts for about 3-4 hours. But they - it is making money out of nothing so you think devs or gaming sites care ?
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
Again - excuse me if I'm worng but the testers are paying for testing the game anyway ? Funcom had no say in Fileplanet getting the "package" ?
This is the new future of "open" betas. You pay for it - You download 13 gbs and then you play content that lasts for about 3-4 hours. But they - it is making money out of nothing so you think devs or gaming sites care ?
Again, do you see what he's doing? He's completely ignoring Stradden's post prior to this and pounces on the one thing he -feels- secure about.And you -are- wrong. Many of the people from FilePlanet testing AoC are not paying to test the game. They are paying to have a FilePlanet account. Which comes with many more things than just this beta and things these people are probably using and have been using for as long as they have been subscribed.
Everyone who simply paid to get into the beta...that's their decision, is it not? Stop making it look like FC twisted their arms to sign up. Particularly when there's now the SECOND contest to win -FREEEEE- Beta spots here on MMORPG.com alone.
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Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
Again - excuse me if I'm worng but the testers are paying for testing the game anyway ? Funcom had no say in Fileplanet getting the "package" ?
This is the new future of "open" betas. You pay for it - You download 13 gbs and then you play content that lasts for about 3-4 hours. But they - it is making money out of nothing so you think devs or gaming sites care ?
As I said before >> Open Beta = Stress Test
The whole point of it is to simulate game launch to monitor things like server load etc.. Fileplanet has a pretty large sub base and is a perfect candidate for handling something like this. Another way to look at it is that this allows Funcom to devote more of it's resources working/polishing the game before the launch date. Jeez....
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
You dont think Funcom worked out a deal with fileplanet to get the keys for beta they are giving out? Nothing is free, im sure fileplanet gave a small donation to Funcom in the hopes they would sell a bunch of new accounts for poeple that wanted to dessperately try the game. Now I have no idea how good AoC is as Im not playing it and dont really plan to play it. The fact that the game is due out in a few weeks and they are keeping up the NDA still to me shows the game is unfinished and not worth buying at release. Think of Wow if you could only post about the first 13 levels out of 70 then the game would be completly different than it ends up. First off the first 13 levels can be reached in one day of playing easily. Second there would be no mention of problems that occur at higher end, arena grinding, raiding issues, not enough 5 man content etc. Here we have Aoc a game that is supposed to promise a ton of features from what they have been telling poeple for the last year or so and now we find out they wont allow anyone to see them until after the game is released. If I hear from poeple I know that the game is really fun past lvls 1-13.... then I will consider buying it. But for now it sounds like they are trying to hard to hide things.
Compare your highlighted dull-witted response to my highlighted section of my post ( which I used dual highlighters to emphasize my sentence structure for you ). If you can either not comprehend what I say before you quote me, or intentionally plan to twist my shit around when you quote me, then don't quote me.
You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl And.. its not a trial client. U get it ? Its a scam from start to finish.I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast. The more I saw the more I liked it. And.. you know what... Blizzard had nothing to hide.
I see I have to spell this out in baby steps for you. Please try to stay focused and follow along.If you play the first 13 levels and you say to yourself "Wow, I like this and I want to play more!", then you can either pre-order based on that feeling OR you can say " I really like this game so far, but I'll wait 'til I know the rest is just as good." So, where exactly are you getting misled, fucked around, or duped?
If you play the first 13 levels or less, and you say " Man, this sucks. I don't even want to continue.", then what the fuck is getting to play to 40-50-60-70-80 going to do for you?
Do you comprehend what I'm getting at, now? Because I can't make it any damn simpler.
Now u focus - really really hard and read the next few words over and over and over again till you get it.Playing 40-50-60-70 -80 does alot. Not just for me - but for 100 of thousands of ppl that are thinking of buyijng this game. It shows that the game is ready for launch. That its the same finished product as GTA 4 was when it released few days ago.
But you really dont get it do you ? If players like the first 13 lvls and want to play more... they can't. The question is why ? Is it cause the 13+ lvls will reduce the likelyhood of the player buying the game ? Alot of ppl think so - And Im pretty sure the closed beta testers would confirm that at this point in time. 3 weeks before release. 3 weeks of a game that has been in prodution for 5 years.... was just in need for abit of "polish" this time last year - and can only show off 13 lvls for 50k paying "open" beta testers. Yes - sound really promising.
Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...
You dont think Funcom worked out a deal with fileplanet to get the keys for beta they are giving out? Nothing is free, im sure fileplanet gave a small donation to Funcom in the hopes they would sell a bunch of new accounts for poeple that wanted to dessperately try the game. Now I have no idea how good AoC is as Im not playing it and dont really plan to play it. The fact that the game is due out in a few weeks and they are keeping up the NDA still to me shows the game is unfinished and not worth buying at release. Think of Wow if you could only post about the first 13 levels out of 70 then the game would be completly different than it ends up. First off the first 13 levels can be reached in one day of playing easily. Second there would be no mention of problems that occur at higher end, arena grinding, raiding issues, not enough 5 man content etc. Here we have Aoc a game that is supposed to promise a ton of features from what they have been telling poeple for the last year or so and now we find out they wont allow anyone to see them until after the game is released. If I hear from poeple I know that the game is really fun past lvls 1-13.... then I will consider buying it. But for now it sounds like they are trying to hard to hide things.
Funny that you bring up WoW.You know...the game that didn't even have Molten Core when released? No Battlegrounds OR Arena's? Which had promised Housing in the first few content patches and never delievered?
Funny how people still enjoyed that game, eh? Even with horrible Server crashes all throughout the first month. So bad that they had to give out weeks worth of free play to the people to appease them. Loot-bug anyone? How long did it take them to fix it? Oh hey...could you even PLAY the first day? I think it took me about 12 hours to even create an account.
Stop pulling out WoW as a great launch with feature complete. Because it wasn't.
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