Mhm, i acutally came here to inform myself about warhammer online. Pretty fun tho. How can people already review a game in a beta state? Thats kinda retarded. I hope both games will be great.
You cant win contests in absentia... atleast not this type of contest. Until Wowhammer gets into open beta, then theres no comparison.
Also, the open beta client is an older version for the closed beta (aoc). Maybe funcom is trying to throw the reviewers off track? It looks like crap in OB, but then when its released and people logon to find a smoothly running game..
yea its a bit objective, but its equal to battlekruses outlandish lies and was directed at him, considering he quick posting elsewhere and then here to hide. Misinformation is rampant here, and people are spreading it butter. OP has always disliked AoC. I think jealousy plays alot to do with the negativity.
...oh ..my god..you ... obviously missed the sarcasm...you were completley Not Objective and neither was He but you jus tkeep feeding the flames with your flesh and wondering why your burning.
THE OP hates both Games so why don't you take your lil Troll fanbois back to your forums and let the thread die like we've been trying to get it to do.
I'm not sure what anyone has to be jealous over considering the obviously Kick in the Pants that Funcom's giving itself. I have hopes that AoC will succeed but all of your fan's behavior as of late just proves my theory that a mature rated game = immature playerbase.
So sod off
Seriously SOD OFF and go protect your game in your Own Forums for pete's sake.
LOL just classic. . To say i doubt a mage will leave AOC etc is so fanboy it s not even funny. When WAR is released , AOC s subs will drop it s inevitable, alot of people are and will play AOC only because they re waiting for WAR, so stop with the AOC this WAR that crap
I won't even listen to a review that comes out in the first week of a MMO's release let alone during open beta. Beta is supposed to be about trying to make the game better, not tearing it down.
THE OP hates both Games so why don't you take your lil Troll fanbois back to your forums and let the thread die like we've been trying to get it to do. I'm not sure what anyone has to be jealous over considering the obviously Kick in the Pants that Funcom's giving itself. I have hopes that AoC will succeed but all of your fan's behavior as of late just proves my theory that a mature rated game = immature playerbase. So sod off Seriously SOD OFF and go protect your game in your Own Forums for pete's sake.
WoW , you are launching personal attacks at pretty much everyone at this point. try to stay on topic, and not just launch personal attacks on everyone
Im not here to bash WAR but if you think War will launch smooth you are kidding yourself. no MMO's launch smooth and I mean no MMO.
DAoC and WoW had smooth launches.
Hah.. haha.. hah... did you play WoW at launch? No, me either, because it barely ran at all. WoW had a horrible launch, don't kid yourself.
Actually, I played WoW during both stress tests and the launch. It ran perfectly the -entire- time.
yea i played the OB and 1st day of launch and had absolutly no problems if i remember correctly. I quit WoW a long time ago so def not a huge fan of it. The only problem on day 1 was my guild chose one of the most popular servers and there was some lag...but this was easily solved by choosing another server and wasnt a problem with the code.
This was just my experience though, cant speak for the rest of the world. I didnt frequent forums back then as much as i do now.
Now that AOC is in open beta, its getting pretty bad reviews. I found this quote from Keen's review pretty interesting "I’m going to be blunt. Funcom is lucky that WAR was delayed and Mythic should be kicking themselves that their game wasn’t ready in time to go against AoC. If these two games went head to head then AoC would have been obliterated and unless Funcom turns things around before Fall that’s precisely what will happen. Sorry if you disagree, but that is the truth of my opinion." You can see his whole review here It seems from that statement that he has played WAR. So has WAR already won this contest?
i think it's funny you base "your" opinion on the opinion of someone that proves over and over against to be bias and knows nothing. both these game will turn out good great is a matter of opinion as well
Now that AOC is in open beta, its getting pretty bad reviews. I found this quote from Keen's review pretty interesting "I’m going to be blunt. Funcom is lucky that WAR was delayed and Mythic should be kicking themselves that their game wasn’t ready in time to go against AoC. If these two games went head to head then AoC would have been obliterated and unless Funcom turns things around before Fall that’s precisely what will happen. Sorry if you disagree, but that is the truth of my opinion." You can see his whole review here It seems from that statement that he has played WAR. So has WAR already won this contest?
i think it's funny you base "your" opinion on the opinion of someone that proves over and over against to be bias and knows nothing. both these game will turn out good great is a matter of opinion as well
What is really funny is he say if WAR was ready, thats just it. Its not ready so how can you make this statement
Im not here to bash WAR but if you think War will launch smooth you are kidding yourself. no MMO's launch smooth and I mean no MMO.
DAoC and WoW had smooth launches.
Hah.. haha.. hah... did you play WoW at launch? No, me either, because it barely ran at all. WoW had a horrible launch, don't kid yourself.
Actually, I played WoW during both stress tests and the launch. It ran perfectly the -entire- time.
Same for the EU launch. Aside from some loot lag on the overloaded servers it was crispy smooth.
Also let's face reality here. WoW's "flop" launch as some people like to accredit it has 90% to do with overloaded servers and 10% to do with the state of the game. The state of the game as far as MMO's was concerned was polished to the extreme and ran smooth as silk with *very* few bugs. It's a "flop" release that every developer would want.
Anyone playing from Open Beta into release would have known this.
Viah Says: “I’m going to be blunt. Funcom is lucky that WAR was delayed and Mythic should be kicking themselves that their game wasn’t ready in time to go against AoC. If these two games went head to head then AoC would have been obliterated and unless Funcom turns things around before Fall that’s precisely what will happen. Sorry if you disagree, but that is the truth of my opinion.”
Dude if you would have played war closed beta and aoc closed beta you would acutally know that RIGHT NOW aoc>war. Back your opionion up with some arguments or just dont post them at all;). Also keep in mind that maybe they are reasons why warhammer got pushed back? -.-. All i can say is that the aoc closed beta client is far more advanced right now.
“BSOD - I had my first BSOD in 3 years lastnight. It happened while talking to a NPC. Suddenly my system locked up and a BSOD appeared. It mentioned something about my display driver which I assume means it crashed.”
Update your drivers. Most likely this is not a client problem.
Keen Says: @Viah: WAR will appeal to wider audience not only with their design but with their game’s system requirements. Funcom has a reputation for failure with AO. Mythic has a reputation for success with DAoC. That’s my argument to back my opinion that WAR would have obliterated AoC if they released at the same time. Now would you care to back your opinion of why AoC > War based on closed beta?
And my drivers, on every single ounce of hardware in my system, are 100% updated. It’s the clie
Viah Says: No surprise. War is nothing else than an inverted wow. And thats the problem, the gameplay is almost exactly the same, except its more choppy right now. Since war is still under NDA i can’t say much, except that you will get bored pretty fast. Atleast i got bored fast. War and wow are just to parallel and the features they implemented to further enchant their pvp system are not quite as good as they claim to be. Just take the wow battleground system add a few new global impact features on it and you acutally have war in the state it is RIGHT NOW. Atleast the pvp part of it.
Its also pretty hard to compare both games war and aoc. War is definitely more casual friendly. You will get almost everyhing shoved up your ass. You can join pvp battles easy, you fight for your faction, you don’t need a guild to succeed, every quest you complete does indeed help your faction to win the war. In wow you normaly don’t give much about the rest of the server, since you have x realm battlegrounds and usually a guild which raids. You simply don’t need to know anyone else. In war its different. Thanks to the rvr.
However the RvR system doesnt play out to well right now, since the lack of players within each faction. But it already gives you a nice preview of that the endgame might look like. Every player relys on everyone else , if the majority of your faction mates suck, there is nothing you can do about it. Several good guilds won’t do it alone. You depend too hard on everyone else. Which might be good for casuals, but its no fun at all for more serious gamers, its definitely not nice to lose on several lanes because the majority of players just can’t organize or just suck.
In aoc however you don’t fight for any faction, you only fight for your guild and this is much more appealing. Create a guild and see if you can make it to the top or fail. Create your battlekeep and try to keep it. Alliances, diplomancy both needs to be considered.
Its rvr against gvg. Casual versus more dedicated players. It really is. Most aoc players i have met are really motivated, they show ambitions, they want to prove themselves as a good guild or players. While in war i miss this feeling since its rvr, you have to think on a much larger scale. The personal impact on the outcome of the war is rather small, regardless if you play like a young god or not, it won’t matter. It reminds me of the wow attitude if you join a regular game of av. Everyone WANTS to win but only a handful of players do acutally play the way that you might win the game. Which is a shame. Back to aoc.
My conclusion:
I haven’t played the open beta from aoc yet, since i have access to the closed client, i can’t compare both. All i can say is that i experienced few to no problems with the closed beta client. Of course there are bugs, its a beta overall, but at the current state of both games i judge the aoc beta to be more polished and fun. But i think war will be a larger success since it aims for the casual players.
In the end only time will tell. Both games have great potential. AoC is not really a game for casuals, while war is. Its not easy to compare both.
Interesting comment from the blog: Viah Says: “I’m going to be blunt. Funcom is lucky that WAR was delayed and Mythic should be kicking themselves that their game wasn’t ready in time to go against AoC. If these two games went head to head then AoC would have been obliterated and unless Funcom turns things around before Fall that’s precisely what will happen. Sorry if you disagree, but that is the truth of my opinion.” Dude if you would have played war closed beta and aoc closed beta you would acutally know that RIGHT NOW aoc>war. Back your opionion up with some arguments or just dont post them at all;). Also keep in mind that maybe they are reasons why warhammer got pushed back? -.-. All i can say is that the aoc closed beta client is far more advanced right now. “BSOD - I had my first BSOD in 3 years lastnight. It happened while talking to a NPC. Suddenly my system locked up and a BSOD appeared. It mentioned something about my display driver which I assume means it crashed.” Update your drivers. Most likely this is not a client problem. Keen Says: @Viah: WAR will appeal to wider audience not only with their design but with their game’s system requirements. Funcom has a reputation for failure with AO. Mythic has a reputation for success with DAoC. That’s my argument to back my opinion that WAR would have obliterated AoC if they released at the same time. Now would you care to back your opinion of why AoC > War based on closed beta? And my drivers, on every single ounce of hardware in my system, are 100% updated. It’s the clie Viah Says: No surprise. War is nothing else than an inverted wow. And thats the problem, the gameplay is almost exactly the same, except its more choppy right now. Since war is still under NDA i can’t say much, except that you will get bored pretty fast. Atleast i got bored fast. War and wow are just to parallel and the features they implemented to further enchant their pvp system are not quite as good as they claim to be. Just take the wow battleground system add a few new global impact features on it and you acutally have war in the state it is RIGHT NOW. Atleast the pvp part of it. Its also pretty hard to compare both games war and aoc. War is definitely more casual friendly. You will get almost everyhing shoved up your ass. You can join pvp battles easy, you fight for your faction, you don’t need a guild to succeed, every quest you complete does indeed help your faction to win the war. In wow you normaly don’t give much about the rest of the server, since you have x realm battlegrounds and usually a guild which raids. You simply don’t need to know anyone else. In war its different. Thanks to the rvr. However the RvR system doesnt play out to well right now, since the lack of players within each faction. But it already gives you a nice preview of that the endgame might look like. Every player relys on everyone else , if the majority of your faction mates suck, there is nothing you can do about it. Several good guilds won’t do it alone. You depend too hard on everyone else. Which might be good for casuals, but its no fun at all for more serious gamers, its definitely not nice to lose on several lanes because the majority of players just can’t organize or just suck. In aoc however you don’t fight for any faction, you only fight for your guild and this is much more appealing. Create a guild and see if you can make it to the top or fail. Create your battlekeep and try to keep it. Alliances, diplomancy both needs to be considered. Its rvr against gvg. Casual versus more dedicated players. It really is. Most aoc players i have met are really motivated, they show ambitions, they want to prove themselves as a good guild or players. While in war i miss this feeling since its rvr, you have to think on a much larger scale. The personal impact on the outcome of the war is rather small, regardless if you play like a young god or not, it won’t matter. It reminds me of the wow attitude if you join a regular game of av. Everyone WANTS to win but only a handful of players do acutally play the way that you might win the game. Which is a shame. Back to aoc. My conclusion: I haven’t played the open beta from aoc yet, since i have access to the closed client, i can’t compare both. All i can say is that i experienced few to no problems with the closed beta client. Of course there are bugs, its a beta overall, but at the current state of both games i judge the aoc beta to be more polished and fun. But i think war will be a larger success since it aims for the casual players. In the end only time will tell. Both games have great potential. AoC is not really a game for casuals, while war is. Its not easy to compare both.
Interesting comment from the blog: Viah Says: “I’m going to be blunt. Funcom is lucky that WAR was delayed and Mythic should be kicking themselves that their game wasn’t ready in time to go against AoC. If these two games went head to head then AoC would have been obliterated and unless Funcom turns things around before Fall that’s precisely what will happen. Sorry if you disagree, but that is the truth of my opinion.” Dude if you would have played war closed beta and aoc closed beta you would acutally know that RIGHT NOW aoc>war. Back your opionion up with some arguments or just dont post them at all;). Also keep in mind that maybe they are reasons why warhammer got pushed back? -.-. All i can say is that the aoc closed beta client is far more advanced right now. “BSOD - I had my first BSOD in 3 years lastnight. It happened while talking to a NPC. Suddenly my system locked up and a BSOD appeared. It mentioned something about my display driver which I assume means it crashed.” Update your drivers. Most likely this is not a client problem. Keen Says: @Viah: WAR will appeal to wider audience not only with their design but with their game’s system requirements. Funcom has a reputation for failure with AO. Mythic has a reputation for success with DAoC. That’s my argument to back my opinion that WAR would have obliterated AoC if they released at the same time. Now would you care to back your opinion of why AoC > War based on closed beta? And my drivers, on every single ounce of hardware in my system, are 100% updated. It’s the clie Viah Says: No surprise. War is nothing else than an inverted wow. And thats the problem, the gameplay is almost exactly the same, except its more choppy right now. Since war is still under NDA i can’t say much, except that you will get bored pretty fast. Atleast i got bored fast. War and wow are just to parallel and the features they implemented to further enchant their pvp system are not quite as good as they claim to be. Just take the wow battleground system add a few new global impact features on it and you acutally have war in the state it is RIGHT NOW. Atleast the pvp part of it. Its also pretty hard to compare both games war and aoc. War is definitely more casual friendly. You will get almost everyhing shoved up your ass. You can join pvp battles easy, you fight for your faction, you don’t need a guild to succeed, every quest you complete does indeed help your faction to win the war. In wow you normaly don’t give much about the rest of the server, since you have x realm battlegrounds and usually a guild which raids. You simply don’t need to know anyone else. In war its different. Thanks to the rvr. However the RvR system doesnt play out to well right now, since the lack of players within each faction. But it already gives you a nice preview of that the endgame might look like. Every player relys on everyone else , if the majority of your faction mates suck, there is nothing you can do about it. Several good guilds won’t do it alone. You depend too hard on everyone else. Which might be good for casuals, but its no fun at all for more serious gamers, its definitely not nice to lose on several lanes because the majority of players just can’t organize or just suck. In aoc however you don’t fight for any faction, you only fight for your guild and this is much more appealing. Create a guild and see if you can make it to the top or fail. Create your battlekeep and try to keep it. Alliances, diplomancy both needs to be considered. Its rvr against gvg. Casual versus more dedicated players. It really is. Most aoc players i have met are really motivated, they show ambitions, they want to prove themselves as a good guild or players. While in war i miss this feeling since its rvr, you have to think on a much larger scale. The personal impact on the outcome of the war is rather small, regardless if you play like a young god or not, it won’t matter. It reminds me of the wow attitude if you join a regular game of av. Everyone WANTS to win but only a handful of players do acutally play the way that you might win the game. Which is a shame. Back to aoc. My conclusion: I haven’t played the open beta from aoc yet, since i have access to the closed client, i can’t compare both. All i can say is that i experienced few to no problems with the closed beta client. Of course there are bugs, its a beta overall, but at the current state of both games i judge the aoc beta to be more polished and fun. But i think war will be a larger success since it aims for the casual players. In the end only time will tell. Both games have great potential. AoC is not really a game for casuals, while war is. Its not easy to compare both.
hmm yeah how can you say AoC closed beta is more advanced than WARs ...i mena AoC is it "open" beta as we speak while WARs is still closed...+ with WAR being months away and AoC comming in 16 days you think AoC should be more along....its common sence
Sorry guys but I can't understand why everyone is flaming each other.Some will like one game and others will like other games.In a recent video Jeff Hickman made an interesting statement as he acknowledged that WoW has widened the market and now "We" he meant AoC,WAR,LOTRO,EvE and the guys from 38 Studios want a part of this market.If youtake the 10 millions who purchased WoW and the 5 millions who purchased GW and if we add L2 and FFXI it makes a lot of players out there.
Both Games will have their ups and downs and I want both to succeed simply because it's not a good thing to have only one company and one product monopolising a market
/Peace
In the land of Predators,the lion does not fear the jackals...
Only in the hearts and minds of rabid WAR fanbois ( ' :
As others have said, it's not a zero sum contest and it shouldn't be made out that way. The games can co-exist among the different demographics and even within them because the games cater to some different play styles (as well as offering different adventures.)
Only in the hearts and minds of rabid WAR fanbois ( ' : As others have said, it's not a zero sum contest and it shouldn't be made out that way. The games can co-exist among the different demographics and even within them because the games cater to some different play styles (as well as offering different adventures.)
were not the ones who started this fight...disgruntled AoC fans started this thread so back off therain. Honestly those of us that have been active in the WAR forum except for a few that shall remain unnamed have left AoC's Forums relatively alone or atleast tried to be positive.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Only in the hearts and minds of rabid WAR fanbois ( ' : As others have said, it's not a zero sum contest and it shouldn't be made out that way. The games can co-exist among the different demographics and even within them because the games cater to some different play styles (as well as offering different adventures.)
were not the ones who started this fight...disgruntled AoC fans started this thread so back off therain. Honestly those of us that have been active in the WAR forum except for a few that shall remain unnamed have left AoC's Forums relatively alone or atleast tried to be positive.
He's right almost all the drama is from AoC people. WAR people have always been pretty laid back and into their game. Half the attackers attack both games...
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by ProfRed
Originally posted by elvenangel
Originally posted by therain93
Only in the hearts and minds of rabid WAR fanbois ( ' : As others have said, it's not a zero sum contest and it shouldn't be made out that way. The games can co-exist among the different demographics and even within them because the games cater to some different play styles (as well as offering different adventures.)
were not the ones who started this fight...disgruntled AoC fans started this thread so back off therain. Honestly those of us that have been active in the WAR forum except for a few that shall remain unnamed have left AoC's Forums relatively alone or atleast tried to be positive.
He's right almost all the drama is from AoC people. WAR people have always been pretty laid back and into their game. Half the attackers attack both games...
I disagree, people like Battlekruse and Ghoul have never had an interest in AoC, not only them but people like Page they all post flamebait all over the place to get a rise from both sides. As soon as AoC was getting 100k hits a week here at mmorpg.com we see a rise in the number of posts like this where people have to flame the game from a distance or spread misinformation. Same can be said of people relatively new to following AoC who think its right to come here and flame up the war fans. The fact is long standing forum members have better nit picking at AoC for a long time, but only post praise for warhammer, they just stepped it up a notch due to the publicity the game is getting now.
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Mhm, i acutally came here to inform myself about warhammer online. Pretty fun tho. How can people already review a game in a beta state? Thats kinda retarded. I hope both games will be great.
You cant win contests in absentia... atleast not this type of contest. Until Wowhammer gets into open beta, then theres no comparison.
Also, the open beta client is an older version for the closed beta (aoc). Maybe funcom is trying to throw the reviewers off track? It looks like crap in OB, but then when its released and people logon to find a smoothly running game..
...oh ..my god..you ... obviously missed the sarcasm...you were completley Not Objective and neither was He but you jus tkeep feeding the flames with your flesh and wondering why your burning.
THE OP hates both Games so why don't you take your lil Troll fanbois back to your forums and let the thread die like we've been trying to get it to do.
I'm not sure what anyone has to be jealous over considering the obviously Kick in the Pants that Funcom's giving itself. I have hopes that AoC will succeed but all of your fan's behavior as of late just proves my theory that a mature rated game = immature playerbase.
So sod off
Seriously SOD OFF and go protect your game in your Own Forums for pete's sake.
LOL just classic. . To say i doubt a mage will leave AOC etc is so fanboy it s not even funny. When WAR is released , AOC s subs will drop it s inevitable, alot of people are and will play AOC only because they re waiting for WAR, so stop with the AOC this WAR that crap
Gotta love it how the OP avoided the review completely.
I still disagree regarding a fair few bits when it comes to the review, but still. Lol.
I stopped reading the review when I saw the words Open Beta... >.>
DAoC and WoW had smooth launches.
Hah.. haha.. hah... did you play WoW at launch? No, me either, because it barely ran at all. WoW had a horrible launch, don't kid yourself.
I won't even listen to a review that comes out in the first week of a MMO's release let alone during open beta. Beta is supposed to be about trying to make the game better, not tearing it down.
Games I've Played: WoW, FFXI, SWG, CoH, EVE Online
Games I'm Waiting for: WAR, Stargate Worlds
WoW , you are launching personal attacks at pretty much everyone at this point. try to stay on topic, and not just launch personal attacks on everyone
The wow comparison trolls are already extinct play aoc beta b4 you speak, I have and its a complete joke.
War has nothing to fear from aoc.
WAR and AoC are not even out yet how can one beat the other. this WAR, AoC thing has gotten way stupid.
DAoC and WoW had smooth launches.
Hah.. haha.. hah... did you play WoW at launch? No, me either, because it barely ran at all. WoW had a horrible launch, don't kid yourself.
Actually, I played WoW during both stress tests and the launch. It ran perfectly the -entire- time.
DAoC and WoW had smooth launches.
Hah.. haha.. hah... did you play WoW at launch? No, me either, because it barely ran at all. WoW had a horrible launch, don't kid yourself.
Actually, I played WoW during both stress tests and the launch. It ran perfectly the -entire- time.
yea i played the OB and 1st day of launch and had absolutly no problems if i remember correctly. I quit WoW a long time ago so def not a huge fan of it. The only problem on day 1 was my guild chose one of the most popular servers and there was some lag...but this was easily solved by choosing another server and wasnt a problem with the code.
This was just my experience though, cant speak for the rest of the world. I didnt frequent forums back then as much as i do now.
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i think it's funny you base "your" opinion on the opinion of someone that proves over and over against to be bias and knows nothing. both these game will turn out good great is a matter of opinion as well
i think it's funny you base "your" opinion on the opinion of someone that proves over and over against to be bias and knows nothing. both these game will turn out good great is a matter of opinion as well
What is really funny is he say if WAR was ready, thats just it. Its not ready so how can you make this statement
DAoC and WoW had smooth launches.
Hah.. haha.. hah... did you play WoW at launch? No, me either, because it barely ran at all. WoW had a horrible launch, don't kid yourself.
Actually, I played WoW during both stress tests and the launch. It ran perfectly the -entire- time.
Same for the EU launch. Aside from some loot lag on the overloaded servers it was crispy smooth.
Also let's face reality here. WoW's "flop" launch as some people like to accredit it has 90% to do with overloaded servers and 10% to do with the state of the game. The state of the game as far as MMO's was concerned was polished to the extreme and ran smooth as silk with *very* few bugs. It's a "flop" release that every developer would want.
Anyone playing from Open Beta into release would have known this.
Interesting comment from the blog:
Viah Says: “I’m going to be blunt. Funcom is lucky that WAR was delayed and Mythic should be kicking themselves that their game wasn’t ready in time to go against AoC. If these two games went head to head then AoC would have been obliterated and unless Funcom turns things around before Fall that’s precisely what will happen. Sorry if you disagree, but that is the truth of my opinion.”
Dude if you would have played war closed beta and aoc closed beta you would acutally know that RIGHT NOW aoc>war. Back your opionion up with some arguments or just dont post them at all;). Also keep in mind that maybe they are reasons why warhammer got pushed back? -.-. All i can say is that the aoc closed beta client is far more advanced right now.
“BSOD - I had my first BSOD in 3 years lastnight. It happened while talking to a NPC. Suddenly my system locked up and a BSOD appeared. It mentioned something about my display driver which I assume means it crashed.”
Update your drivers. Most likely this is not a client problem.
Keen Says: @Viah: WAR will appeal to wider audience not only with their design but with their game’s system requirements. Funcom has a reputation for failure with AO. Mythic has a reputation for success with DAoC. That’s my argument to back my opinion that WAR would have obliterated AoC if they released at the same time. Now would you care to back your opinion of why AoC > War based on closed beta?
And my drivers, on every single ounce of hardware in my system, are 100% updated. It’s the clie
Viah Says: No surprise. War is nothing else than an inverted wow. And thats the problem, the gameplay is almost exactly the same, except its more choppy right now. Since war is still under NDA i can’t say much, except that you will get bored pretty fast. Atleast i got bored fast. War and wow are just to parallel and the features they implemented to further enchant their pvp system are not quite as good as they claim to be. Just take the wow battleground system add a few new global impact features on it and you acutally have war in the state it is RIGHT NOW. Atleast the pvp part of it.
Its also pretty hard to compare both games war and aoc. War is definitely more casual friendly. You will get almost everyhing shoved up your ass. You can join pvp battles easy, you fight for your faction, you don’t need a guild to succeed, every quest you complete does indeed help your faction to win the war. In wow you normaly don’t give much about the rest of the server, since you have x realm battlegrounds and usually a guild which raids. You simply don’t need to know anyone else. In war its different. Thanks to the rvr.
However the RvR system doesnt play out to well right now, since the lack of players within each faction. But it already gives you a nice preview of that the endgame might look like. Every player relys on everyone else , if the majority of your faction mates suck, there is nothing you can do about it. Several good guilds won’t do it alone. You depend too hard on everyone else. Which might be good for casuals, but its no fun at all for more serious gamers, its definitely not nice to lose on several lanes because the majority of players just can’t organize or just suck.
In aoc however you don’t fight for any faction, you only fight for your guild and this is much more appealing. Create a guild and see if you can make it to the top or fail. Create your battlekeep and try to keep it. Alliances, diplomancy both needs to be considered.
Its rvr against gvg. Casual versus more dedicated players. It really is. Most aoc players i have met are really motivated, they show ambitions, they want to prove themselves as a good guild or players. While in war i miss this feeling since its rvr, you have to think on a much larger scale. The personal impact on the outcome of the war is rather small, regardless if you play like a young god or not, it won’t matter. It reminds me of the wow attitude if you join a regular game of av. Everyone WANTS to win but only a handful of players do acutally play the way that you might win the game. Which is a shame. Back to aoc.
My conclusion:
I haven’t played the open beta from aoc yet, since i have access to the closed client, i can’t compare both. All i can say is that i experienced few to no problems with the closed beta client. Of course there are bugs, its a beta overall, but at the current state of both games i judge the aoc beta to be more polished and fun. But i think war will be a larger success since it aims for the casual players.
In the end only time will tell. Both games have great potential. AoC is not really a game for casuals, while war is. Its not easy to compare both.
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Yes for him it apparently have, for the rest of world? No!
I do hope AoC Fanbois and WARheads read this.
At this point WAR isn't defeating anything even if AoC did own itself.
hmm yeah how can you say AoC closed beta is more advanced than WARs ...i mena AoC is it "open" beta as we speak while WARs is still closed...+ with WAR being months away and AoC comming in 16 days you think AoC should be more along....its common sence
Sorry guys but I can't understand why everyone is flaming each other.Some will like one game and others will like other games.In a recent video Jeff Hickman made an interesting statement as he acknowledged that WoW has widened the market and now "We" he meant AoC,WAR,LOTRO,EvE and the guys from 38 Studios want a part of this market.If youtake the 10 millions who purchased WoW and the 5 millions who purchased GW and if we add L2 and FFXI it makes a lot of players out there.
Both Games will have their ups and downs and I want both to succeed simply because it's not a good thing to have only one company and one product monopolising a market
/Peace
In the land of Predators,the lion does not fear the jackals...
Only in the hearts and minds of rabid WAR fanbois ( ' :
As others have said, it's not a zero sum contest and it shouldn't be made out that way. The games can co-exist among the different demographics and even within them because the games cater to some different play styles (as well as offering different adventures.)
were not the ones who started this fight...disgruntled AoC fans started this thread so back off therain. Honestly those of us that have been active in the WAR forum except for a few that shall remain unnamed have left AoC's Forums relatively alone or atleast tried to be positive.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
were not the ones who started this fight...disgruntled AoC fans started this thread so back off therain. Honestly those of us that have been active in the WAR forum except for a few that shall remain unnamed have left AoC's Forums relatively alone or atleast tried to be positive.
He's right almost all the drama is from AoC people. WAR people have always been pretty laid back and into their game. Half the attackers attack both games...
were not the ones who started this fight...disgruntled AoC fans started this thread so back off therain. Honestly those of us that have been active in the WAR forum except for a few that shall remain unnamed have left AoC's Forums relatively alone or atleast tried to be positive.
He's right almost all the drama is from AoC people. WAR people have always been pretty laid back and into their game. Half the attackers attack both games...
I disagree, people like Battlekruse and Ghoul have never had an interest in AoC, not only them but people like Page they all post flamebait all over the place to get a rise from both sides. As soon as AoC was getting 100k hits a week here at mmorpg.com we see a rise in the number of posts like this where people have to flame the game from a distance or spread misinformation. Same can be said of people relatively new to following AoC who think its right to come here and flame up the war fans. The fact is long standing forum members have better nit picking at AoC for a long time, but only post praise for warhammer, they just stepped it up a notch due to the publicity the game is getting now.