Quite honestly, there are a metric f**kton of console games that are more fun than EQ, EQ2, or any other MMO. And a hell of a lot less buggy too. The fact that the console market is schooling the PC game market as a whole, let alone the small slice of the pie that is the MMO market, speaks volumes on what the average person thinks about MMOs. Namely that they are too time intensive. And those that can afford to spend 6- 10 hours a night playing the game will always end up on top.
Originally posted by Coldmeat Quite honestly, there are a metric f**kton of console games that are more fun than EQ, EQ2, or any other MMO. And a hell of a lot less buggy too. The fact that the console market is schooling the PC game market as a whole, let alone the small slice of the pie that is the MMO market, speaks volumes on what the average person thinks about MMOs. Namely that they are too time intensive. And those that can afford to spend 6- 10 hours a night playing the game will always end up on top. -------
Unfortunately he is quite correct here, conole games are killing the PC market and some of there games are schooling games like EQ2, Guild Wars, WoW, ect.
But lets be realistic here the reason for this is mainly the fact that console are reletively cheaper than Desk Tops and alot more of the masses can gain access to consoles faster. But are these games populaity based off of sales or their ability to have content and longgevity in the MMO market. As of now the online capabilities of Console games is still in it's begining stages, I doubt it is anywhere capable of rivaling the computer market on MMO's, like EQ, AO, or DAoC. Comparing Consoles to Computers, is no real comparasion when you take all the factors of both systems into account.
Originally posted by Kunarick Cleffy here is a short quiz on Eq2 information. If you don't get these right.....well i feel sorry for you, and it proves my point that you don't know what your talking about. 1. How many races will be present in Eq2? Do you think this would affect the enjoyability of the game? 2. What is the new race and what is the name they switched to from the Vah Shir? Do I look like I peck out details about a game? 3. How many cities are there? Does it actually matter when a game is as limited as EQ2? 4. Name all 5 archetypes. Only 5? 5. If you wanted to be a dirge, what choices would you make as you progress? Your confined to choices? 6. What is the name of the world that Eq2 takes place in? Does it look like I care? Thats all for now.....----------------------------- The True Oracle of all that is EverQuest!!
I'm not going to waste my time looking that stuff up since I have absolutely no intention in wasting my time on playing this game. The only things I care about is how limited the game is, and that can be answered through the the movies that are posted on this game, and aspects on gameplay.
Well let me end this NOW then. If you have no interest in playing the game, please remove yourself from the game's forums and stop causing trouble.
Richard J. Cox "There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Originally posted by Kunou Well let me end this NOW then. If you have no interest in playing the game, please remove yourself from the game's forums and stop causing trouble.
Is that to say that posts questioning SOE, or various aspects of EQ2 are not allowed?
Originally posted by Kunou Well let me end this NOW then. If you have no interest in playing the game, please remove yourself from the game's forums and stop causing trouble.
Is that to say that posts questioning SOE, or various aspects of EQ2 are not allowed?
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Its to do with coming to these forums with a closed-mind and just causing trouble. Theres a difference between playing a game and disliking it and then theres trolling. These folks are just trolling for the hell of it.
No, that is to say enough trolling, there is no reason for anyone who oviously has no intention of playing the game to be in said game's specific forums other than to cause trouble. The same reason every single EQ2 vs WoW thread has been deleted so far. I've deleted posts in the WoW forums from EQ2 fans trollign just as well. My statement wasn't based on any bias towards the game simply based on my bias against trolling.
Richard J. Cox "There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Originally posted by Kunarick Cleffy here is a short quiz on Eq2 information. If you don't get these right.....well i feel sorry for you, and it proves my point that you don't know what your talking about. 1. How many races will be present in Eq2? Do you think this would affect the enjoyability of the game? 2. What is the new race and what is the name they switched to from the Vah Shir? Do I look like I peck out details about a game? 3. How many cities are there? Does it actually matter when a game is as limited as EQ2? 4. Name all 5 archetypes. Only 5? 5. If you wanted to be a dirge, what choices would you make as you progress? Your confined to choices? 6. What is the name of the world that Eq2 takes place in? Does it look like I care? Thats all for now.....
----------------------------- The True Oracle of all that is EverQuest!!
I'm not going to waste my time looking that stuff up since I have absolutely no intention in wasting my time on playing this game. The only things I care about is how limited the game is, and that can be answered through the the movies that are posted on this game, and aspects on gameplay.
Seems like what you know, i could put on the back of a postage stamp..
Originally posted by Kunou No, that is to say enough trolling, there is no reason for anyone who oviously has no intention of playing the game to be in said game's specific forums other than to cause trouble. The same reason every single EQ2 vs WoW thread has been deleted so far. I've deleted posts in the WoW forums from EQ2 fans trollign just as well. My statement wasn't based on any bias towards the game simply based on my bias against trolling.
Fair enough. My personal distaste for sycophants aside, I'm undecided on the game. It has some interesting ideas, and all that. I just have no faith in SOE, or any other dev team for that matter, to impliment them properly, if at all. After 5+ years around MMOs, I've learned not to take any post by a dev, or the official community mouthpiece, as gospel until I see it in the game, and working properly.
Originally posted by Kunarick Cleffy here is a short quiz on Eq2 information. If you don't get these right.....well i feel sorry for you, and it proves my point that you don't know what your talking about. 1. How many races will be present in Eq2? Do you think this would affect the enjoyability of the game? 2. What is the new race and what is the name they switched to from the Vah Shir? Do I look like I peck out details about a game? 3. How many cities are there? Does it actually matter when a game is as limited as EQ2? 4. Name all 5 archetypes. Only 5? 5. If you wanted to be a dirge, what choices would you make as you progress? Your confined to choices? 6. What is the name of the world that Eq2 takes place in? Does it look like I care? Thats all for now.....
----------------------------- The True Oracle of all that is EverQuest!!
I'm not going to waste my time looking that stuff up since I have absolutely no intention in wasting my time on playing this game. The only things I care about is how limited the game is, and that can be answered through the the movies that are posted on this game, and aspects on gameplay.
I really hate to drag this on. But i must say that cleffy's response proved my point amazingly well.
----------------------------- The True Oracle of all that is EverQuest!!
----------------------------- "You sir, are a moron"
Can SOE be trusted? No way in hell! Everyone keeps saying it is a different development team. BS. A good portion of the SWG developers and management have been moved over to EQ2. I even remember reading some interview that only 16 of the orig. 100+ EQ2 team remain. The turnover on the team has been very high. How can you make a good game when the team is constantly changing?
Heck, part of the reason the last expansion was so horrid was the team was "afraid" to tell upper management it wasn't done (from the guild summit).
The game will be pushed out the door half-way complete, with little or no beta. Well.... newbie island will be freaking great, it is the rest of the game that will lack content and quests.
I definitely think they can be trusted to make this game great, but then again, I am highly obsessed with Everquest and have great faith in the team they have there. Who wouldn't be? Well, wait, don't actually answer that question, it was rhetorical. But yes, it might not be the best at first and it might have a bunch of bugs and people may not like it right away, but that is what time is for and I believe that with time and patience, it will be possibly the most amazing game ever.
Or maybe I am just hoping...
Fate is a wheel, it will reveal, all you've become, all that you feel. Destiny knows what has to be, you'll pay the price, nothing is free.
-65 dark elf, Archoness of the Nameless.
- Tienaere Damondred, 70High Priestess of the Nameless -Onela Damondred, Necro/Ranger of Guild Wars. -Onela, Magician/Wizard of Ragnarok.
I definitely think they can be trusted to make this game great, but then again, I am highly obsessed with Everquest and have great faith in the team they have there. Who wouldn't be? Well, wait, don't actually answer that question, it was rhetorical. But yes,it might not be the best at first and it might have a bunch of bugs and people may not like it right away, but that is what time is for and I believe that with time and patience, it will be possibly the most amazing game ever.
Or maybe I am just hoping...
Wow, I cannot believe I am reading this. Your saying it is totally all right to be paying for a game month after month, even though it is not finished? You are really obsessed !
For me, I expect a finished product. If SOE comes through -- great! I will be pleasantly surprised.
Um. That is not what I was saying at all... I was saying that there might be bugs at first, but I would be patient enough to wait until they are done fixing them to play the game. Heh. In other words, I trust that they will make it great and that I will wait until it is so to play it.
Fate is a wheel, it will reveal, all you've become, all that you feel. Destiny knows what has to be, you'll pay the price, nothing is free.
-65 dark elf, Archoness of the Nameless.
- Tienaere Damondred, 70High Priestess of the Nameless -Onela Damondred, Necro/Ranger of Guild Wars. -Onela, Magician/Wizard of Ragnarok.
Originally posted by Kunou Well let me end this NOW then. If you have no interest in playing the game, please remove yourself from the game's forums and stop causing trouble.
Originally posted by Kunou Well let me end this NOW then. If you have no interest in playing the game, please remove yourself from the game's forums and stop causing trouble.
Run every one! its the opinoin nazi!!
Do you even know what the function of a moderator is? Obviously not, so let me explain it to you. He's there to ensure that threads are relative to the boards they are posted on. There doesn't happen to be a "Flame Board" here at MMORPG for good reason. If there was, he'd move the post. Since there's not, he's doing his job.
j-monster, your just a closed-minded troller. What are you contributing to the board besides flaming? Why are you wasting your time on a board of game you dont like? Hopeful, you can banned from mmorpg.com, as we dont need anymore trolls...
HAHAHAHAHAH what a sweet troll picture! And who says i dont like it? i havent even played the game (eq2) and im doubtful you have either. as for closeminded what are you basing that on? Please show me some proof bye the way that troll picture is mega cool!
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Quite honestly, there are a metric f**kton of console games that are more fun than EQ, EQ2, or any other MMO. And a hell of a lot less buggy too. The fact that the console market is schooling the PC game market as a whole, let alone the small slice of the pie that is the MMO market, speaks volumes on what the average person thinks about MMOs. Namely that they are too time intensive. And those that can afford to spend 6- 10 hours a night playing the game will always end up on top.
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Unfortunately he is quite correct here, conole games are killing the PC market and some of there games are schooling games like EQ2, Guild Wars, WoW, ect.
But lets be realistic here the reason for this is mainly the fact that console are reletively cheaper than Desk Tops and alot more of the masses can gain access to consoles faster. But are these games populaity based off of sales or their ability to have content and longgevity in the MMO market. As of now the online capabilities of Console games is still in it's begining stages, I doubt it is anywhere capable of rivaling the computer market on MMO's, like EQ, AO, or DAoC. Comparing Consoles to Computers, is no real comparasion when you take all the factors of both systems into account.
I'm not going to waste my time looking that stuff up since I have absolutely no intention in wasting my time on playing this game. The only things I care about is how limited the game is, and that can be answered through the the movies that are posted on this game, and aspects on gameplay.
Well let me end this NOW then. If you have no interest in playing the game, please remove yourself from the game's forums and stop causing trouble.
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Is that to say that posts questioning SOE, or various aspects of EQ2 are not allowed?
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Is that to say that posts questioning SOE, or various aspects of EQ2 are not allowed?
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Its to do with coming to these forums with a closed-mind and just causing trouble. Theres a difference between playing a game and disliking it and then theres trolling. These folks are just trolling for the hell of it.
EQ2 Qeynos Guild- http://eq2imperium.proboards15.com
No, that is to say enough trolling, there is no reason for anyone who oviously has no intention of playing the game to be in said game's specific forums other than to cause trouble. The same reason every single EQ2 vs WoW thread has been deleted so far. I've deleted posts in the WoW forums from EQ2 fans trollign just as well. My statement wasn't based on any bias towards the game simply based on my bias against trolling.
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
I'm not going to waste my time looking that stuff up since I have absolutely no intention in wasting my time on playing this game. The only things I care about is how limited the game is, and that can be answered through the the movies that are posted on this game, and aspects on gameplay.
Seems like what you know, i could put on the back of a postage stamp..
Fair enough. My personal distaste for sycophants aside, I'm undecided on the game. It has some interesting ideas, and all that. I just have no faith in SOE, or any other dev team for that matter, to impliment them properly, if at all. After 5+ years around MMOs, I've learned not to take any post by a dev, or the official community mouthpiece, as gospel until I see it in the game, and working properly.
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I'm not going to waste my time looking that stuff up since I have absolutely no intention in wasting my time on playing this game. The only things I care about is how limited the game is, and that can be answered through the the movies that are posted on this game, and aspects on gameplay.
I really hate to drag this on. But i must say that cleffy's response proved my point amazingly well.
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The True Oracle of all that is EverQuest!!
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"You sir, are a moron"
"Stare at the Sun im bored..."
Desolation
"Stare at the Sun im bored..."
Can SOE be trusted? No way in hell! Everyone keeps saying it is a different development team. BS. A good portion of the SWG developers and management have been moved over to EQ2. I even remember reading some interview that only 16 of the orig. 100+ EQ2 team remain. The turnover on the team has been very high. How can you make a good game when the team is constantly changing?
Heck, part of the reason the last expansion was so horrid was the team was "afraid" to tell upper management it wasn't done (from the guild summit).
The game will be pushed out the door half-way complete, with little or no beta. Well.... newbie island will be freaking great, it is the rest of the game that will lack content and quests.
I definitely think they can be trusted to make this game great, but then again, I am highly obsessed with Everquest and have great faith in the team they have there. Who wouldn't be? Well, wait, don't actually answer that question, it was rhetorical. But yes, it might not be the best at first and it might have a bunch of bugs and people may not like it right away, but that is what time is for and I believe that with time and patience, it will be possibly the most amazing game ever.
Or maybe I am just hoping...
Fate is a wheel, it will reveal, all you've become, all that you feel. Destiny knows what has to be, you'll pay the price, nothing is free.
-65 dark elf, Archoness of the Nameless.
- Tienaere Damondred, 70High Priestess of the Nameless
-Onela Damondred, Necro/Ranger of Guild Wars.
-Onela, Magician/Wizard of Ragnarok.
Wow, I cannot believe I am reading this. Your saying it is totally all right to be paying for a game month after month, even though it is not finished? You are really obsessed !
For me, I expect a finished product. If SOE comes through -- great! I will be pleasantly surprised.
Um. That is not what I was saying at all... I was saying that there might be bugs at first, but I would be patient enough to wait until they are done fixing them to play the game. Heh. In other words, I trust that they will make it great and that I will wait until it is so to play it.
Fate is a wheel, it will reveal, all you've become, all that you feel. Destiny knows what has to be, you'll pay the price, nothing is free.
-65 dark elf, Archoness of the Nameless.
- Tienaere Damondred, 70High Priestess of the Nameless
-Onela Damondred, Necro/Ranger of Guild Wars.
-Onela, Magician/Wizard of Ragnarok.
Do you even know what the function of a moderator is? Obviously not, so let me explain it to you. He's there to ensure that threads are relative to the boards they are posted on. There doesn't happen to be a "Flame Board" here at MMORPG for good reason. If there was, he'd move the post. Since there's not, he's doing his job.
Go learn some net etiquette and then come back.
j-monster, your just a closed-minded troller. What are you contributing to the board besides flaming? Why are you wasting your time on a board of game you dont like? Hopeful, you can banned from mmorpg.com, as we dont need anymore trolls...
EQ2 Qeynos Guild- http://www.imperium-arcanum.com
Well,
lets just hope and pray they dont let the assclowns from SWG anywhere near this game.
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