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  • HousamHousam Member Posts: 1,460


    Originally posted by Byrom
    Originally posted by Draconus I 100% disagree that the bugs are software/hardware issues on the user side.

    I'm running the game on a AMD 64 +3200, Nvidea 6600, 1 gig ram and XP.
    most people would agree the above spec is total crap and out of date.
    WELL... guess what?
    I get 25-40 FPS anywhere in game and the game runs great for me. I personally have no complaints about the game.
    BUT... HUGE amounts of people do and the fan boys are playing it down as if it is everyone elses problem and not FunComs.

    the truth is "funcom messed up big time."
    As to the game performance, Im rumming an AM2 6000+ X2 / 8600gts 512/ 4 gigs ram/ Vista Ult. etc etc/ I get same frame rate as you, no matter what I put my settings to, dx10 on or off , and performance is suprisingly good, for a new game. And not bad in general.

    thats cos turning dx10 dies nothing...there is still no dx10 in the game

  • ByromByrom Member Posts: 236

    Oh wow they even have a place to enable it, in the video options...lol well I'll be switched. Wonder why they have it there then?

    Is it something comming later?

    Nice rig BTW

  • jy88902jy88902 Member Posts: 293

    Originally posted by Byrom


    Oh wow they even have a place to enable it, in the video options...lol well I'll be switched. Wonder why they have it there then?
    Is it something comming later?
    Good question, and I'm surprised there isn't more people wondering why that is.

    If something that isn't currently enabled, the logical and correct thing to do is to disable the selection in the video options to avoid confusions. Unless confusion is exactly what you're trying to cause.

  • HousamHousam Member Posts: 1,460


    Originally posted by Byrom
    Oh wow they even have a place to enable it, in the video options...lol well I'll be switched. Wonder why they have it there then?
    Is it something comming later?
    Nice rig BTW

    thx mate :)

    they will be adding it in a couple months :) they couldn't finish it on time i guess :p still looks awesome in dx9 though :0

  • UOvetUOvet Member Posts: 514

    Originally posted by Draconus


    I wish them all the luck in the world and hope they do suceed "kid"
    but the fact of the mater at this point is "AoC is a joke in MMo coding, and will be mocked by other
    Lets hope they can fix this one fast becuase the posts of people canceling there subscriptions grows by the day


    LOL

    You sure sound confident don't you? Did you even buy the game? Complaining about the forums makes me believe you didn't. Just a hunch.

  • SigneSigne Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,524

    I had a terrible time running this game in beta.  I would get 20 - 30 fps or so, which is playable, but I'd also get stuttering and huge drops in my fps from time to time (constantly dying because of it), especially if there was a bit of action around me.  Since the launch, it's much, much better.   I still get a tiny bit of loading lag but that's my so-so processor.  My husband gave me a Geforce 8800 gt (the one with the wee cute fan!) and it improved even more.  (I had a 7800 gt in it)  It runs fine even with this processor which is barely above the minimum requirements but well below the recommended.

     

    I will, however, agree that the official forums are horrible.  Worse than WoW, even.  And that's bad!  I only go there if I am looking for something specific and then I run away as soon as I find it.  A person makes one criticism and the people over there pounce.  Although thing's are much better in the game and the forums reflect that, there are a lot of people still having issues, both in game and with their accounts.  It doesn't seem to be a small number of people with problems, either.  Funcom fails at customer support, in my opinion.  They've made some bad decisions regarding business practices, too.  That doesn't, however, detract from the fact that they've put together a good, fun game.  I'm glad I can play it but I recognise that there are a lot of issues and Funcom isn't particularly good at addressing them in the forums.  People get angry when they feel ignored.

  • jy88902jy88902 Member Posts: 293

     

    Originally posted by Signe


     
    I will, however, agree that the official forums are horrible.  Worse than WoW, even.  And that's bad!  I only go there if I am looking for something specific and then I run away as soon as I find it.  A person makes one criticism and the people over there pounce.  Although thing's are much better in the game and the forums reflect that, there are a lot of people still having issues, both in game and with their accounts.  It doesn't seem to be a small number of people with problems, either.  Funcom fails at customer support, in my opinion.  They've made some bad decisions regarding business practices, too.  That doesn't, however, detract from the fact that they've put together a good, fun game.  I'm glad I can play it but I recognise that there are a lot of issues and Funcom isn't particularly good at addressing them in the forums.  People get angry when they feel ignored.

    Great post. I'm glad there are people who recognize that Funcom made several questionable business decisions even if the game is great itself. Sadly, without viewing access to the official forums, these questionable tactics and the rumored poor customer support really discourages people who are on the fence like me.

     

    Probably leaning more towards trying the game now, they tried hard enough to get my $50 and some of their smart moves should be rewarded.

  • DraconusDraconus Freeworld AdminMember Posts: 781

    I would honestly wait at lest a month before trying out the game, there is a lot of issues to work out.

    when they open up the offical forum for view to the public is a good sign the game is off to a good start.

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  • DrukstylzDrukstylz Member Posts: 189

    OP said "Lets hope they can fix this one fast becuase the posts of people canceling there subscriptions grows by the day"

    You do realize that no one has a subscription to cancel. Everyone in both U.S.A and E.U are both still on the first few days of their free month. Not nit picking, just when you make bold statements like that, you should think them through.

    Yes there are alot of complaints, and it's to be expected. You don't make a cutting edge game and expect everyone to have smooth sailing. However what you do need to look for is devlopers putting serious effort in debugging.

    That is more than evident from the simple fact that the first day of release I was getting 5-10 FPS and barely able to move. Now I get a steady 20-30 FPS,  stopped random crashing, no more "black screen" when swiveling camera.

    What keeps my faith is that Funcom is speaking with actions, not empty words or apology letters. There are frequent auto-patches and bug fixes being released. Bug spotted? splat, bug killed End of story.

     

     Edit: spelling Through or thru? lol

  • GayiaGayia Member Posts: 89

    The game does have some issues, but we all knew ahead of time that this game was going to be a monster and require a very good pc to run at best settings. Most of the performance issues come from peoples computers not from the game itself, as this is still just the first month and I feel the game is running smoothly I only expect it to get better. I have a crap graphics card but I can still play the game and I really do enjoy it, Its not perfect nothing is but it is alot of fun and great to look at.  I think this was a pretty good launch and have to say this is the best looking game graphic wise to date.

  • AltugAltug Member UncommonPosts: 24

    First of all: If the game doesnt run smooth, dont blame the company, cause the game runs very smooth. We are playing 8 friends together and the only one who had a problem was because he was playing from his laptop on abroad (Our comps are not super high but most can play with max details.)

    2nd, the game is fun except dungeons. Dungeons are extremely boring, huge and repeating. Many people have great fun. I especially enjoy the fact that quest item drop rate is 90%.

    3rd, this game is not WoW killer, we will enjoy this for a month or two, but then there is not much to do. I dont know if you guys noticed it or not but the entire game area is pretty small. I got level 41 in 6 days, and I already saw levels 80s at the end of friday.

    I dont understand why some people say `this game is super cool, incredible, fantastic ` etc. Are you getting paid for this or what? That is an average everquest copy, nothing special.

    And I also dont understand those who tell `the game sucks, will be another SWG failure, nothing works`etc. You are wrong, that game is not bad, point.

    Now go to play with whatever game you like to  play, Conan or whatever. If you dont have anything else to play with, name your hands Candy and Handy, and make a triple with your stick. Just stop fooling real players with wrong information.

  • DouhkDouhk Member Posts: 1,019

    Originally posted by ianubisi


    I was a beta-tester for Anarchy Online. I was there for its release in 2001.
    I have been playing AoC since release.
    The two games cannot be more different in my experience. AO was an unmitigated disaster. AoC is smooth as silk for me.
    People may be having problems, but comparing the two release is absurd and completely asinine.

    I agree... people need to actually realize how horrible AO's release was. Should I post up screenshots?

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  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Buggy post......AoC is really cool, its better than the average MMO and comparing it to AO is like telling me Vanilla is better than chocolate.

    AoC took me by surprise and I don't see any reason why you dislike it. Granted it can be a grind session extraordinaire but the grinds seem more reasonable and less of a task.

    This is not a game.

  • SuorySuory Member Posts: 90

    After reading all the negative posts during open beta, I was very leary of the game myself. But, I have to say since I started playing in the eary access, I have not seen any of the major problems that I was reading about. I guess I learned the hard way that people are going to blast the internet but negative stuff about games no matter what.  In the past, I have always went off what other gamers thought about the game before I could play.  The gamming community has changed so much since 2001 when the last game I started at release (DAoC).

    The game does have minor problems. Key word minor not major. Such has today, the mini map is not working right for me. Is it game breaking, No way. Almost all the minor problems will be fixed over time. After playing IMO two of the great classics EQ and DAoC, I will say that both of those games had a ton of minor problems when they released. They went on to become two of the greatests MMORPG in the history of  these type of games

    From now on, I will never go off any reviews or posts on any of these websites. People have become so jaded these days, that it is not even funny.

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  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Draconus


     
    to me AoC was 10 times worse.
     

     

     

    Originally posted by Draconus


     
    I get 25-40 FPS anywhere in game and the game runs great for me. I personally have no complaints about the game.
     

    Make up your mind, and come back.

     

    On a side note, as far as customer service goes with e-mails and such, we are suffering in AO as well. Sil already confirmed on the AO boards that, although AO and AoC have seperate dev teams, they share customer service reps. And CS is swamped. I can't access the boards for AO and have e-mailed multiple times in the last month. So they do need to do something with the customer service area and do it quick.

    Also, you will also note that the Tech forums are handled the same on both games. FC monitors them, but they are mainly there for players to help players, and are not responded to by FC other than FC just fixing the issues without comment.

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    Wait, you mean to tell me there's actually more than one person on the AO team? Could have fooled me since no one answers emails or responds to petitions anymore.


    The team is still very much alive and kicking never fear. (In fact we have new influx of devs starting very soon after the recent round of recruitment). In terms of customer service please do bear with us for a few weeks, launching Age of Conan is a huge undertaking for our customer service teams and response times will take a little bit to get back to normal. There are more GMs then ever on our books now and they are also spending their time on AO, but the balance during these launch weeks will take a little while to balance correctly. The guys and gals in our cs teams are working flat out on both games, and we are striving to ensure the support levels are not too adversely effected.

     




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    Interesting, considering how many times it's been stated that AO and AoC have separate teams. I knew the truth would come out eventually.



    Oh, and if these people were actually "working flat out" as you put it, I wouldn't think that after a month my issue would still be unresolved. It's not just me either, a quick trip over to the Tech Help board (you know, that black hole that no one of importance ever goes to) will show you some other people who's emails are being ignored, petitions being tossed around in the queue for hours, and getting the runaround when they finally do get a response. You can't fool me. It's easy for you to sit there and talk about how hard they're working and stuff, but the fact of the matter is you haven't experienced it first hand. We are the ones that have to deal with them, and you have no idea how bad it is and has been for a long time.


    The production teams are very seperate as indeed we have always said and the production of Conan has never effected AO's production and vice versa. However we do share support staff and things like community (as someone mentioned already I worked on Conan and AO as community manager in the past), billing and customer service now that Age of Conan is live.



    The Tech Help forum is for players to help each other with advice and technical questions. It is monitored, but we have never actively responded to individual concerns on that forum (it just wouldn't be feasible and isn't the most effective medium for that type of discussion).



    As I said there will be some teething issues as the support staff move from supporting one live game to two, but we are working as hard as possible to ensure that disruption is kept to a minimum.

  • darklinkjrdarklinkjr Member Posts: 3

    Tsk..Tsk..Tsk..

    And thats why WarHammer is going to be completely spotless game launch. its going to be perfect.

    because they are hammering out all the bugs now. and doing tests and stress runs of capital citys. and ya know why? cuz Mythic cares about the customer.

  • kujiikujii Member UncommonPosts: 190

    I have been playing since day one of early release and I get no more bugs than I do in a typical day of WoW.  I get 60 fps with verticle sync on in WoW. and I get 43 fps in town in AoC.  I have been booted out of the game a few times but it happens in the above mentioned game as well.    I have not experience any lag like frequently occurs in Lagerac Valley. I would say my bug count based on comparing AoC with current games out is just about zero.  What ever happens in this, a week old game, typically occurs in WoW on a daily basis.  I have some minor interface issues that could make finding a friend and such smoother but really have no complaints regarding the game itself.   Far less buggy than WoW was even when wow was 1+ years old. 

  • DeviateDeviate Member UncommonPosts: 219
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery


     
    Originally posted by Draconus


    I wish them all the luck in the world and hope they do suceed "kid"
    but the fact of the mater at this point is "AoC is a joke in MMo coding, and will be mocked by other
    Lets hope they can fix this one fast becuase the posts of people canceling there subscriptions grows by the day




    No offence but stop talking out your backside, my guild has 200 ppl in and there is maybe 5 people with tech issues and another 5 who thought the game was not what they expected, every one is having a blast.

     

    Its a great game, if people were cancelling all over the place why did they just add 9 new servers today?

    You need to come back with a realistic argument, because your viewpoint is way skewed.. just like "freeworld"..

    Word, and my guild of about 150-200 and maybe 1-2 have problems.  These people keep grasping for straws, but are failing miserably.  

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by darklinkjr


    Tsk..Tsk..Tsk..
    And thats why WarHammer is going to be completely spotless game launch. its going to be perfect.
    because they are hammering out all the bugs now. and doing tests and stress runs of capital citys. and ya know why? cuz Mythic cares about the customer.

    I'll be bookmarking this so I can laugh at you later. Hope you don't mind.

     

    Edit: Unless of course you were being sarcastic, in which case: good job.

  • darklinkjrdarklinkjr Member Posts: 3

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by darklinkjr


    Tsk..Tsk..Tsk..
    And thats why WarHammer is going to be completely spotless game launch. its going to be perfect.
    because they are hammering out all the bugs now. and doing tests and stress runs of capital citys. and ya know why? cuz Mythic cares about the customer.

    I'll be bookmarking this so I can laugh at you later. Hope you don't mind.

     

    Edit: Unless of course you were being sarcastic, in which case: good job.

    Haha, fine with me I will bookmark it as well.

    and no I wasn't being sarcastic but I was posted it with a on my face.

    and your gonna be like this WAR launch-->

     

  • oakthornnoakthornn Member UncommonPosts: 863

    Originally posted by Draconus


    I 100% disagree that the bugs are software/hardware issues on the user side.
     
    I'm running the game on a AMD 64 +3200, Nvidea 6600, 1 gig ram and XP.
    most people would agree the above spec is total crap and out of date.
    WELL... guess what?
    I get 25-40 FPS anywhere in game and the game runs great for me. I personally have no complaints about the game.
    BUT... HUGE amounts of people do and the fan boys are playing it down as if it is everyone elses problem and not FunComs.
     
    the truth is "funcom messed up big time."

    LOL, your a liar.. The only way you get 25-40 fps is on low settings and in single player mode with a piece of crap PC like that. Honestly dude, I know you weren't in beta because the performance was 3x as bad back then. Funcom did a unimaginably excellent job with its launch. The game runs smooth as silk for me and I actually get 35-45 fps in multiplayer mode and 70fps in single player mode. I haven't experienced much bugs at all, except for the occasional armor-weapons being listed at a higher levle than they actually are. Other than that, this game has come a very long way since a couple months ago in Beta.

    Honestly, I didn't think AoC would have been this successful. It's a pleasant surprise because I thought I'd be letdown once again and would have to wait for Stargate Worlds. But, I'm enjoying myself right now when I actually do have the chance to play.

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  • DeviateDeviate Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by darklinkjr


     
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by darklinkjr


    Tsk..Tsk..Tsk..
    And thats why WarHammer is going to be completely spotless game launch. its going to be perfect.
    because they are hammering out all the bugs now. and doing tests and stress runs of capital citys. and ya know why? cuz Mythic cares about the customer.

    I'll be bookmarking this so I can laugh at you later. Hope you don't mind.

     

    Edit: Unless of course you were being sarcastic, in which case: good job.

    Haha, fine with me I will bookmark it as well.

     

    and no I wasn't being sarcastic but I was posted it with a on my face.

    and your gonna be like this WAR launch-->

     

    Hey, honestly, as much as I can't stand EA. I still have much respect  for Mythic, and I hope they succeed. Different strokes for different folks bro.

    Even if I try it and it is not to my liking, I will show respect for WAR fans and not troll their forums with nonsense.

     

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069

    Hmm... to try and keep the bug situation in perspective, look at it this way.

    My son and I have been playing since launch day, and we both have level 16 mains and level 10 alts.

    We have experienced very few bugs in this time.  I've crashed once, same for him when he minimized the game to the desktop.  I'm running a video driver on my laptop that Funcom's install program recommended I upgrade, but I didn't (can't really, its a laptop and I have to wait for Gateway to make the new driver) and yet I've had few graphic issues.

    So, lets say for example that Funcom has signed up 200K so far... a feasible number I 'd say.  And say 90% of those playing have the same performance that my son and I have.... that leaves about 20K players who are royally screwed right now...and it would take a ton of time to work through all their issues, and they'd rage all the while.

    Now, about those issues, they clearly are caused by quirks and irregularities in the client side rigs, because remember, 90% of us are not having any major issues.  That is to be expected of any new MMO that pushes the edge like AOC  does, and it does not mean AOC is to blame.  The PC world is nothing like consoles, so many variances to account for, coupled with a gi-normous amount of user stupidity which is hard to quantify, but is always a prevalent factor in most tech support issues.

    So no, the game isn't a huge pile of fail from that perspective.  Some of the other complaints are valid though, there is a bunch of instance loading (at least so far on the tutorial island) and in some of the dungeons.  Whether that sort of thing totally ruins the game for someone is up to them I suppose, for me it hasn't been that big of an issue.

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  • burmeseburmese Member Posts: 546

    The launch has been very smooth over all and 95% of the ppl who are actually in the game are delighted.  Expect the forum trolls here to continue to spawn posts and keep bumping them to the top of the list.  They have nothing else to do...

    Right now the only MMO launch that was any smoother would be LoTRO, and that one not by much.

    Most of the PvP, and a few of the PvE servers, are heavily loaded with queues. 

    Right now AoC has 600k-700k players which is excellent as they are not trying to cater to the lowest common denominator, but are looking to carve out a large, distinct segment of their own. It will be 2-3 months before we begin to have an idea if the end-game content has the right hooks to retain players.  Anyone here can claim what they want but no one knows squat as to how things will be 3, or 6 months from now.

    I predict WaR will be a bigger drain from WoW, overall, but AoC is clearly pulling all the hardcore PvPers from -all- other current MMO's right now. The combat mechanics are distinct, intelligent, and not comparable to anything else out there.  It's also getting a good dose of RPers who are into the Conan lore.  Not to mention all the PC hardware companies are wetting their pants seeing a popular game out that really takes advantage of top end equipment.

     

     

     

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